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Is anyone else tired of this format? Of males being the highlight, and everything be decided with their climax in mind?

I joined this site because there were 5, maybe 10 models that I really wanted to pursue. But I have to admit, I'm kinda tired of the hand-slapping, all-about-the-males format that all of the studios here shoot for. And... it hasn't taken long. I've only been a member for 5-6 months. I should admit that I'm married, so maybe the fact I have an actual woman in my life plays a factor in my decision making. But still. Every scene here seems to fit that exact same formula. And when repeated... it just seems a little homoerotic. I mean - if sex is all about the guys satisfaction - how else could you see it?

There are a few models who are able to sell this format well, but most --- sorry, but you can see they're just here for the money. And - again, I haven't been here long, but really, it's so obvious I don't know how it can be attractive for an extended period of time. Women playing the role, and men doing whatever it takes to cum 3 droplets. (shrugs) And the fact that the men are mostly 40+ and still playing this role doesn't help. Most men have matured past this stage IRL. These guys' just make it seem a little pathetic. Unable to grow up, unwilling to mature. Boys pursue little girls. Men desire women. It seems what we have here are aged men pursing little girls - which... just doesn't work. Comes across as pathetic when it's pursued so consistently.

Really, I was unbelievably into this site when I first joined. But... the charm has worn off very quickly. It just seems a bit odd now. And... out of place in today's world. My opinion obviously. Just sharing, since that's what forums are for. There may be lots of hate-filled responses coming my way, but... you know, I really don't care. I'm just being honest.

you never spank your wife?

never?

Well, scenes ending with guys jerking off like their life depended on it for several minutes before barely producing a cumshot doesn't really strike me as pleasurable.

You are right tho. I am tired of porn just being a endless amount of scenes where guys put on a "I'm a big strong guy and I'm charge" act with women being barely more than props. If female performers showed any kind of dominance most male talents probably wouldn't be able to stay hard.

Fucking a girls brains out = Hot.

Guys spending their time choking, slapping, jerking off and moving the girl around = Not so hot.

I once commented on the catatonic passivity of many of the girls featured here, but was informed that it was "cultural",
ie. women from Eastern Europe are - allegedly - naturally docile, and enjoy deferring to their troglodyte males.

^The talking/dialogue having to be in english probably doesn't help much.

I agree, the lack of passion/interest/talking/noise from some of the girls do tend to leave some scenes a bit dead/mechanical in my opinion.

I'm for the male dom cause nobody wants to see a guy get ass fucked by a starlet with a strap on.

Falcon131721 wrote:I'm for the male dom cause nobody wants to see a guy get ass fucked by a starlet with a strap on.

Sure they do I would let the LP girls gang bang me with strap ons.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see how girls being the dominate ones automatically leads to guys getting fucked in the ass with strapons? Girls can be dominant and in charge without strapons being involved.

@ magizi - no, I don't spank my wife regularly. I try not to subject her to that level or physical ridicule. I mean I'm sure I have in the heat of the moment, but... there is no "heat" and no "moment" in most of the scenes produced here. It's just... going through the motions, despite how much you praise the site, that's really all it is. So-- comparing a real-life couple to this site is pretty ridiculous, sorry to tell you. I hardly see that's comparable to hand-slapping, "you go guy", 4 cocks in the ass, rubbing dicks together, guys spanking each other, male dominance "do this" "do that" to the female performer - again, all about MALE satisfaction kind of action. Again, complete domination of the female, so much so she becomes virtually irrelevant in the scene - because it's all about male supremacy. In the end, unbelievably homoerotic. A half-step away from gay, because so much depends on the male. So really, I'm not sure why you asked the question. Seems kinda out of left-field if you get my North American baseball reference.

As to the *most of* the rest - thank you, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this kind of ridiculous domination isn't really all that erotic. It's just kinda ridiculous in the end. But it's what the site produces 98% of the time. (shrugs) Ugh.

For those supporting male dom for fear of female dom - wow... you have problems. More so than I'm willing to delve into, so... hey, whatever. I wish you all the best... or at least whatever best might come your way, which based on the circumstances is probably very little.

Edmund03 wrote:I once commented on the catatonic passivity of many of the girls featured here, but was informed that it was "cultural",
ie. women from Eastern Europe are - allegedly - naturally docile, and enjoy deferring to their troglodyte males.

You are deliberately makeing it sound stupid, are you!
There are cultural differences and they help LP to produce what sells best, but I wont go into details again as you dont wanna understand anyway.

And for leroi: Ridiculous is how seriousely you take a site like LP!
Besides you post show its just not your place. So it be!

For magizi: As I often said not all here have the same sexual experience. Just in case, here I am fully with you! And I want more lustful hot manhandle not less!

The op makes some pertinent and valid observations here and I truly get what your saying. This is a bit of a topic where I have mixed feelings. The best sex I have ever had is where I have been dominated by men and treated a little roughly, it's a kink and not for all I know, but it's what fires me up and being more sexual than sensual the animalism of that kind of sex excites me. But the caveat, and it is a huge caveat as that I have to be in the mood and I have to want it at the time.

I carry this over to my porn watching and admit that some of the male domination and dare I say manhandle elements can really turn me on purely because if I was a porn performer I would probably call for the same elements. Where I do reject these scenes is where the female performer is clearly in discomfort and is being taken liberty of by the often macho posturing of the guys. When it veers into that it becomes a huge turn off and has resulted in me ending scenes early. It just smacks of a piss poor attempt by a guy to exert their dominance when instead it just looks like abusive bullying. It's not good, clever or vaguely erotic.

I would love to see more scenes where the girls turn the tables and become dominant back although I fear the general rule of thumb in porn that the guy is always the boss (why?) will prevail. Like it or not porn is still a male dominated environment and producers are aware of this and will gear the porn accordingly.

There are def dominant female performers out there and on LP who I personally would like to see be given full licence to shame and even humiliate some of the guys. A bit of payback would be hot. There is the germs of a new series to this effect also if Giorgio is listening? X

@dapaddict - you've made almost 5,000 posts here, so clearly you take this site a bit too seriously yourself, haha. This is enhanced by the fact you care enough about the topic to get angry at someone else just for having a different opinion. (shrugs) As for me, I'm not sure how you're making that observation, but I don't care all that much, it's obviously just your opinion. As for the cultural reference you made I disagree as well, and I do so with firsthand experience, having been with both a Russian and a Czech. But hey, whatever.

@Laura - thank you for your response. I agree I think there's potential for things to get more varied here. I think it was you who in another post said LP is kinda in the position of being "damned if you do, damned if you don't", and we've seen that is true in the past few days here. I.e. with people getting so pissed about the cuckolding scenes. Not to mention the never-ending piss/anti-piss rants. Oy. Personally I'm not into either, but I don't care if the site tries whatever out. Really, why the hell not? Back to what you were saying though, I'd be interested in some female-dom action. Though I have to admit most of the models I could see pulling this off have already left LP (e.g. Linda or Julie, ).

^I could see Mea Melone pulling it off.

morgankane1 wrote:Fucking a girls brains out = Hot.

Guys spending their time choking, slapping, jerking off and moving the girl around = Not so hot.

Absolutely spot on. The general LP ethos is way too much of a US "buddy porn" style.

The trailers keep suckering me but of course due to their fast-moving nature you don't see any of the male-dominant nonsense. I'm a slow learner sadly.

But I won't be at LP much longer if the style and presentation doesn't change radically. That it's the best porn out there is really more a condemnation of the rest of the porn world than a glowing endorsement of LP.

Ultimately LP needs an influx of young guys who enjoy sex rather than viewing it as a domain for them to exert their power and influence over women. That just is not sexy viewing in my book.

dap-addict wrote:

Edmund03 wrote:I once commented on the catatonic passivity of many of the girls featured here, but was informed that it was "cultural",
ie. women from Eastern Europe are - allegedly - naturally docile, and enjoy deferring to their troglodyte males.

You are deliberately makeing it sound stupid, are you!
There are cultural differences and they help LP to produce what sells best, but I wont go into details again as you dont wanna understand anyway...

dap-addict, can you explain the cultural differences for me? i'd be very interested to hear. are you eastern european yourself?

i have to say i'm completely infatuated with eastern european female performers. I consider them world beaters on every single level.
for example, Arwen. there is no equivalent to her on the planet, in terms of sheer breathtaking beauty or off-the-scale sexual daring. Not in the us, not in japan (that i'm aware of) and (haha, as if!) certainly not in the uk. and all those that come close are fellow eastern europeans, or europeans on a broader scale.

why is that? why are these girls so phenomenally great and everyone else so (relatively) average to downright lousy.

i used to think it was purely a question of money. that girls from the former eastern bloc countries are more desperate for cash so more willing to go further. maybe ten, definitely twenty years ago, i think i that would have been the case.
but then you compare the current us/uk and czech republic lifestyles, the basic standard of living for the average citizen is not so far apart. clearly there are more stupidly rich in both those countries because the governments indulge inequality as supposedly 'necessary to the plot' (don't even get me started on that one), but for the man and woman on the street, the workers, the lifestyles are not worlds apart.

so why are the eastern europeans so passionate and almost aggressively sexual in their appetites? are they expressing themselves thus as a gesture against oppressive patriarchal values, or shaming religious orthodoxies in their own countries? or are they just generally more liberated as individuals. more self-determining and far less concerned what other might think or say about indulging such desires?
they fascinate me. and no coincidence that my newest flame (Luca Bella) is czech. could only be. that hunger and drive and wild-eyed passion i just don't see at all in the average british performer, and only rarely in us performers.

so what's the story? an insider's view would be much appreciated.

and on the eigth day god made Arwen Gold...♥

^
My love for Eastern European pornstars has been a ten year and counting infatuation, they are as you say, the final word. No other demographic comes even within 50% imho. Like you I often ask myself why. Without bringing up a controversial topoc such as genetics which often serves to promote some kind of superioty of 'breed', there is something about female Slavic genes that seems to click with me. I am just a sucker for that look: high cheekbones, full lips, big eyes and small breasted, lean figures. Purely on an aesthetic level they present a desirability and one which I would love to emulate but sadly I just don't have those genes grrrr. That is reason number one.

Reason number 2 is that contrast of demure and an almost shy and reserved persona, combined with a total lack of inhibition in front of the camera. When it comes to sex, any semblance of on the surface shyness and perceived prudeness just goes out the window. They just don't give a fuck and will do almost anything kinky and perverted (within reason). If like me you prefer your porn warts and all, graphic and very very hard then you have to appreciate, admire and lust for that type of performer. I have seen numerous British and US performers over the years who can certainly talk the talk in a brash and uber confident way, but crumble in front of camera and struggle doing even 50% of the level of hardness that Eastern European performers will do. Of course there will always be execptions to that rule, but on average they don't look as good, aren't anywhere near as adorable and don't fuck as well in demanding environments. I am hoping that this new wave of US performer proves me wrong. The early signs are good I must say but there is still a huge gulf for me.

My own porn evolution has developed in stages, first it was UK performers basically as I could associate myself with them, then US and circa 2005 Eastern European. It's been East of Vienna, West of the Urals ever since for me and whilst I am open to change, I doubt I will

I work with some Eastern Europeans and know a few in my community and can also qualify just how nice and sweet they are as people and nothing like the boogyman that elements of the British media would have you believe.

Apologies as completely off topic but when I read those magical words 'Eastern' and 'European' I get a little weak at the knees xx

In response to the orthodoxy comment Xmal made as far as I know religion plays little part in modern day Eastern European society, certainly in regards to CZ, Hungary and Romania so I doubt there is a rebellion against those values. Russia may be different particularly in light of the recent reassertion of Orthodoxy seen over there, much of which is underpinned by Putin's moral crusade against elements of society he views as being agitators. Hence the crackdown of St Petersburg porn. Croatia, Poland and Bosnia are different stories altogether and the stigma of sex outside of marriage still exists due to their religions, probably the reason you don't get many pornstars from these countries, despite how beautiful the girls are.

I just think people from Cz an Hun just love to fuck and have no hang ups about showing their bodies off, and carry litle shame about having multiple sexual partners or being promiscuous. Personally I think that's healthy and liberating providing you are strong enough in character to be comfortable with that outlook x

The good looks are genetic, nothing controversial about that. Also worth pointing out that the obesity epidemic hasn't hit Eastern Europe yet - but it undoubtedly will, one day.

Most of the last LP scenes are similar to each other, I mean that LP uses of one, two schemes, white walls, big window and male dominance.... Please make more scenes with female dominance(2 or 3 for 1 man, reverse gang bang etc.)

morgankane1 wrote:Well, scenes ending with guys jerking off like their life depended on it for several minutes before barely producing a cumshot doesn't really strike me as pleasurable.

You are right tho. I am tired of porn just being a endless amount of scenes where guys put on a "I'm a big strong guy and I'm charge" act with women being barely more than props. If female performers showed any kind of dominance most male talents probably wouldn't be able to stay hard.

Fucking a girls brains out = Hot.

Guys spending their time choking, slapping, jerking off and moving the girl around = Not so hot.

^ Agree 100%.

And the best male talent should be able just enjoy it when the girls act up and give some back. It's much sexier.

magizi87 wrote:you never spank your wife?

never?

As often as she'll allow

Part of the secret to a happy relationship IMO

Too much noise can upset the neighbours though...

Women in Eastern Europe actually LIKE men and have not been brainwashed by feminism as in North America and Western Europe. It's the same with Asian women.

I think you are oversimplifying, MLH.
Eastern European or at least Russian women tend to listen to dominant man, they enjoy a strong guiding hand, expect that from their male partner(s) and also directors.
Feminism understood as true women liberation and not empty PC talk has taken roots, but it defines girls looking for the boys they truly demand, often boys with classical old fashioned manners giving flowers etc. Or a hedonistic single lifestyle with boys just used as sex toys, but again still rather the dominant types - presenting flowers at the right occasions.

melovehotties wrote:Women in Eastern Europe actually LIKE men and have not been brainwashed by feminism as in North America and Western Europe. It's the same with Asian women.

Maybe actually go to Europe before you start making assumptions about what women in Eastern and Western Europe are like? Just a suggestion?

You know, Europe's a continent. A lot of very diverse cultures there.

You can try princess Donna for some scene ..Than can avoid mail dominence