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What to do about tattoo issue?

Earlier it was pretty easy - if there is tattooed girl in scene there is a skip and end of story, without too much thinking. However, recent new talents changed that; they're without freak-show body shapes - moreover with pretty decent look but with increasing numbers, size and odiousness/unpleasantness of tattoos. Of course, it is girl's decision, but that decision carries side effects with it, and everybody (producers and models) should act accordingly. After all - body is girl's tool in porn, so we can't turn blind eye to this (unprofessionalism).

Course, there should be scenes with tattooed girls for guys who like it or don't care. On other side there is also bunch of people who don't like tattooed bodies - so it is natural to expect something for them.

Again, this was not so big problem earlier, ladies didn't have tattoos or they have more discreet one, easier to ignore at least. But lately really lot of porn models have it. Furthermore, looks like tattoers trying to beat each other in size and ridiculousnes of motif which often results in disgusting or tumor/cancer-look of skin.

I think this is become a problem. Overflow.

Solution? I have few ideas: for filming cover some or all tattoos with make-up, cover it with lingerie/clothes, hire more clean-skinned girls (not real solution) or do not hire inked - at least for some time, to stop overflow (not solution here, either).

That's about that for a start, just my two cents. Speak your mind and share your ideas if you wish.

(Voting: there's up to 4 votes per member because there's basically 3+1 groups of possibilities. Guys who love tattoos (or don't care at all) anyway will surely use one to support very same option.)

Nice one, very interesting for me to check out the answers.

More tattooed girls pls, they are beatiful)

Tattoes are just more common generally, thus also porn girl got more of them.
Its logical and no way out.
I cant vote as the options seem to be biased towards a nostalgic porn view (for instance the 2000-2005 Golden Prague Years) but generally I do support the option to cover some of the heavy ink lower body part tattoes up with lingerie, Liz Rainbow is such an example.

Generally I would say its the girls shape that counts, her performance, her talent to portray what she does on set as the best time in her (sex) life, her overall personality. But of course I do agree with OP that her body is her tool in that job and she should think of that fact whenever she considers altering it, sun, sex/work, partying, sports, avoiding gym etc.

^+1, stupid poll! Do you think you covered enough ways that you can muster support for your dislike of tattoos?

I generally prefer girls without tattoo but it is a girl by girl decision for me and the tattoo.

As for a thread titled the "Tattoo issue", really! Well at least it caught my attention to stop an post. I personally think LP is greater for bringing such an incredible, upcoming, beautiful and talented performer like Anna De Ville and I wish she comes back often. Also I think many would disagree with you that beautiful Misha Cross tattoos disgusted them in any way since some are still hoping she comes back to LP, my issue with Misha was her racist attitude not tattoo. She has no issue fucking a geriatric French gorilla with a 1" dick but has a questionnaire for male performers to make sure they are not black.

^ I agree with these guys.

LP generally books very hot girls and their makeup artists and stylists do their job flawlessly. So I don't care much about tats, as long as a girl is cute and enthusiastic.

Speaking of male talents, their tattoos should always be hidden. I like neither ex-convicts (Mike Angelo's teardrop) nor "I love Fiona" (Banderas).

Cheers,

Gold

Hmmm, 8 out of 10 options are against tattoos and even the two remaining ones aren't positive. So this poll is more or less useless.

I like tattoos as long as they fit the look of the girl. Calisi Ink may be too much, but she's the only LP model who makes me think this way.

As dap-addict already pointed out, tattoos become more and more common in Europe now, so that'll affect some porn models too. Just get used to it

Dudemeister wrote:Hmmm, 8 out of 10 options are against tattoos and even the two remaining ones aren't positive. So this poll is more or less useless.

Well, not really. I'll explain again.



This could be viewed as 3+1 groups of questions or one same group which could be observed from 3+1 MAIN points of view.

First group - for or against tattoos:

- Positive or neutral about tattoo is clearly 1st option. If you are tattoo-fan or don't mind or don't have opinion - story ends here, you expressed your stance. No need for further talk, either, except maybe commenting some designs or similar themes, but this is not a main point of topic. Everything is concentrated here.

- Negative opinion is in 2nd and 3rd option, divided to harder and softer attitude. It is interesting to know how many guys (from natural-skin-fans group) can and how many don't want to see ink.

- More complex opinion than yes or no - there's option 10.

Second group - IF YOU ALREADY DON'T LIKE INK would you do anything (and what) about existing models with tattoos:

- "Don't do anything" is already implied in answer 3.

- "Do something" is in options 4, 5 and 6.

Third group - what to do in future about new models:

- "Leave same practice" is implied in answer 1.

- "Pay attention" is in answers 7, 8 and 9.

- "Something else" is again in option 10.

Fourth - let's say - group is option 10, and it usually should implie a comment.



When you think again - it is simple and logical. Course, on a first view it looks like it makes fans of natural skin more visible, but in reality only 4 options could be or are "pro and contra". Even more, due to concentration, tattoo-fans looks much more visible on second view.

There's not such a thing like perfect statistic, but this is useable. It would not be perfect even with more than 10 allowed options (which is maximum here), maybe just a little bit mote transparent - on a first view only. You can't see every detail - however, everybody could improve/customise everything with added comments.

This is not simply pro and against tattoos, but something between - not a issue like a simple note (ongoings, phenomenons...) and not a issue as a problem (overflow, disapproval of some tastes)... It's tattoo issue, tattoo moment in today's porn. And our talk about this, course.

And now about my opinion... you saw it in a opening post, I didn't act like I don't have any. But it is my mind, not a request in "do it my way or don't do it at all" spirit. Also, nor hiding of personal attitude beside mask of pursuit to "justice", deciding what is "right" and what "wrong". There's barely few things which are totally white or black - so let's talk about this.

There's no poll option with "I like tattoos I prefer tattooed girls".
I like both with and without, so answer 1 for me.

Honestly prefer without, but, I think in the case of some girls, they kind of suit the image. Anna De Ville is the perfect example of this. Her arm tattoo is stunning and it fits her slightly alt/indie image.

I have said it before but i prefer the one big 'statement' tatoo over a hotchpotch of random and often tasteless tats. Each to their own and I have sought pleasure over tattooed porn babes before but there is something about unadorned skin I find very appealing

Re: the statement tats, I would include Karina Grand and Olivia in that list, both of whom have really sexy inkwork.

Caveat would be Belle who tbh would look cool any which way she turns out. x

Usually not a big fan of tattoos but it definitely suits some girls and the look they are going for - Nikita Bellucci is probably the best example, who doesn't like how Nikita looks?

Iddaoeeok wrote:Usually not a big fan of tattoos but it definitely suits some girls and the look they are going for - Nikita Bellucci is probably the best example, who doesn't like how Nikita looks?

Agreed! same style as Anna De V, fits the image and looks as cool as fuck

This issue is likely to split along generational lines.

I'm in the older generation, and until just a few years ago I found tattoos VERY off-putting, unless I was drunk and specifically looking for something slutty without a trace of innocence. And I'm not just talking about in porn here -- I'm talking about other media and even daily life.

But the new generation -- including almost all women around the free world who are potential porn models -- tends to view tattoos merely as another form of self-expression, conceptually more akin to a hair style or wardrobe choice, something whimsical instead of being a Major Life Decision That Goes On Your Permanent Record. Ditto piercings, gauge ear studs, etc. From their perspective this is all about individuality and freedom, and someone who says "I can't stand women with ___" will seem, from their point of view, to be completely objectifying them, basically turning them into sex robots with interchangeable parts.

Misha Cross, Nikita Bellucci, new-to-LP Anna De Ville -- their ink reflects their personality, including their sexual personality, which is very vivid and kinky. My reaction isn't "slut!" anymore, it's "Wow, that's a hot Millennial woman who's making a statement." But then I feel the same way about Gina Gerson, for example, whose flawless and inkless skin, sometimes tanned, sometimes pale, and sometimes with tan lines (my favorite), is one of her best features -- and that's her statement. (IMHO bikini tan lines make a woman look twice as naked, and you can do wonderful feature-emphasizing things with them.)

So I'm catching up in my preferences. I'm not specifically looking for scenes with ink or piercings or any other particular thing. If the woman feels more sexy with it than without it, then I'm in favor.

Oldshark wrote:This issue is likely to split along generational lines.

I'm in the older generation, and until just a few years ago I found tattoos VERY off-putting, unless I was drunk and specifically looking for something slutty without a trace of innocence. And I'm not just talking about in porn here -- I'm talking about other media and even daily life.

But the new generation -- including almost all women around the free world who are potential porn models -- tends to view tattoos merely as another form of self-expression, conceptually more akin to a hair style or wardrobe choice, something whimsical instead of being a Major Life Decision That Goes On Your Permanent Record. Ditto piercings, gauge ear studs, etc. From their perspective this is all about individuality and freedom, and someone who says "I can't stand women with ___" will seem, from their point of view, to be completely objectifying them, basically turning them into sex robots with interchangeable parts.

Misha Cross, Nikita Bellucci, new-to-LP Anna De Ville -- their ink reflects their personality, including their sexual personality, which is very vivid and kinky. My reaction isn't "slut!" anymore, it's "Wow, that's a hot Millennial woman who's making a statement." But then I feel the same way about Gina Gerson, for example, whose flawless and inkless skin, sometimes tanned, sometimes pale, and sometimes with tan lines (my favorite), is one of her best features -- and that's her statement. (IMHO bikini tan lines make a woman look twice as naked, and you can do wonderful feature-emphasizing things with them.)

So I'm catching up in my preferences. I'm not specifically looking for scenes with ink or piercings or any other particular thing. If the woman feels more sexy with it than without it, then I'm in favor.

Superb post and pretty much articulates my own thoughts on the matter. x

laura. wrote:Superb post and pretty much articulates my own thoughts on the matter. x

Thanks. Words are my business, porn is a great pleasure, and actually they're remarkably compatible.

Oldshark wrote:

laura. wrote:Superb post and pretty much articulates my own thoughts on the matter. x

Thanks. Words are my business, porn is a great pleasure, and actually they're remarkably compatible.

Agreed, porn is one of life's hidden pleasures. Underrated and underappreciated. Cruelly dismissed and totally misunderstood. Its just a form of art at the end of the day. Anyone with an ounce of sex drive and liberalism can see that! x

laura. wrote:Agreed, porn is one of life's hidden pleasures. Underrated and underappreciated. Cruelly dismissed and totally misunderstood. Its just a form of art at the end of the day. Anyone with an ounce of sex drive and liberalism can see that! x

Yes, and it is also driving international commerce, creating job & career opportunities, spearheading the development of technologies & internet infrastructure expansion, helping treat loneliness and worse ...

Porn ... is there anything it can't do?

Oldshark wrote:

laura. wrote:Agreed, porn is one of life's hidden pleasures. Underrated and underappreciated. Cruelly dismissed and totally misunderstood. Its just a form of art at the end of the day. Anyone with an ounce of sex drive and liberalism can see that! x

Yes, and it is also driving international commerce, creating job & career opportunities, spearheading the development of technologies & internet infrastructure expansion, helping treat loneliness and worse ...

Porn ... is there anything it can't do?

Possibly saving the world from a perennial desire for oil, religion and Europe from implosion but yeah, just kiddin', i agree, it has more benefits than negatives and its hot, hot as hell and a huge release for those with healthy kinks x

Votes after roughly 4 months (remember groups of questions):


25 - I don't care about that.
12 - I will skip scene with tattooed model - so I don't care.
7 - I don't like it but don't do anything.

6 - Tattoos should be covered SOMETIMES (make-up, lingerie... or some other way - you can write what/which).
3 - Tattoos should be covered OFTEN (make-up, lingerie... or some other way - you can write what/which).
5 - Tattoos should be covered EVERY TIME (make-up, lingerie... or some other way - you can write what/which).

21 - DO NOT hire so many models with BIG tattoos in future.
16 - Models without tattoos should be chosen in future.
7 - Models without tattoos ONLY should be chosen in future.

6 - Something completely else (you can write what).


Total votes : 108

Oldshark wrote:From their perspective this is all about individuality and freedom, and someone who says "I can't stand women with ___" will seem, from their point of view, to be completely objectifying them, basically turning them into sex robots with interchangeable parts.

You miss-judged my stands COMPLETELY.

OK, this is how I see it.

In real life, mentally I see an empty person - so empty that she, or he, have to rely on shallow, visually induced support and validation of others, masked by wannabe “depth” must-make-impression attitude. Person without personal personality, way too much defined by environment and without enough self-confidence, self-respect and spirituality. Sure, I do not hate it or anything similar, just feel… well, feel sorry. Rough but true. Fact.

Of course, usually (read: almost surely) that is not unchangeable state… but this is not psychological forum, so I will stop.

In real life, physically - it is simply ugly. I enjoy looking lady's body in all natural beauty, and modifications only interfere (more than piercings or even silicones).

In real life, there is also a health issues - not so many during application (they are more psychologically nature), but during rest of life (eg overload of the immune system which keeps tattoos visible).

And, on the end of a day I can not imagine anything positive in tattooing.

In porn, my views are the same. However, results of porn - for consumers – mainly are more focused to physical impression, so I wrote little more about that aspect here.

That’s my opinion.

In my opinion it's personal decision of each girl - tatoo or not. I'm not a fan of tatoos but I will not complain for girls who have it. I will just skip the scene that's all. There are a lot of people who like tatooed girls and I respect it.

Obviously each girl chooses her look for her life. We fans just choose what we like to look at.

I'm just an old traditionalist so my absolute preference is zero tattoos, e.g. Roxy Dee.

I'm becoming desensitised to smaller, less "in you face" tattoos, e.g. Ria Sunn. Even though her latest is in the dreaded "tramp stamp" location.

I really struggle with big colourful tattoos especially on torso or legs, so I generally skip those models regardless of her other charms.

VBT_2 wrote:In real life, mentally I see an empty person - so empty that she, or he, have to rely on shallow, visually induced support and validation of others, masked by wannabe “depth” must-make-impression attitude. Person without personal personality, way too much defined by environment and without enough self-confidence, self-respect and spirituality. Sure, I do not hate it or anything similar, just feel… well, feel sorry. Rough but true. Fact.

While I get the impression that you are sort of very old fashioned and also sound so paternalizing, fact is also that most porn girls do have self-confidence issues.

avanfurwet wrote:Obviously each girl chooses her look for her life. We fans just choose what we like to look at.

I'm just an old traditionalist so my absolute preference is zero tattoos, e.g. Roxy Dee.

I'm becoming desensitised to smaller, less "in you face" tattoos, e.g. Ria Sunn. Even though her latest is in the dreaded "tramp stamp" location.

I really struggle with big colourful tattoos especially on torso or legs, so I generally skip those models regardless of her other charms.

So do I . Generally I don't like all huge tatoos, or tatoos on breast, calf; however there are few girls with tatoos who I like - Romi Rain, Mila Milan, Lucia Love. I really don't know why . But as I said I respect models choices.

Kriss1986 wrote:So do I . Generally I don't like all huge tatoos, or tatoos on breast, calf; however there are few girls with tatoos who I like - Romi Rain, Mila Milan, Lucia Love. I really don't know why . But as I said I respect models choices.

Yeah, and I kinda like Belle Claire. She's obviously stunning but not my type at all. Big personality though.

avanfurwet wrote:

Kriss1986 wrote:So do I . Generally I don't like all huge tatoos, or tatoos on breast, calf; however there are few girls with tatoos who I like - Romi Rain, Mila Milan, Lucia Love. I really don't know why . But as I said I respect models choices.

Yeah, and I kinda like Belle Claire. She's obviously stunning but not my type at all. Big personality though.

Nor in my, but I must admit she is a great performer and her skills are adorable. This girl knows how to fuck .

avanfurwet wrote:

Kriss1986 wrote:So do I . Generally I don't like all huge tatoos, or tatoos on breast, calf; however there are few girls with tatoos who I like - Romi Rain, Mila Milan, Lucia Love. I really don't know why . But as I said I respect models choices.

Yeah, and I kinda like Belle Claire. She's obviously stunning but not my type at all. Big personality though.

agree a few small tattoo like belle claire & ria sunn is good ,more then that i dont like so much.

I prefer tattoed girls. I guess it's stupid to say that only tattooed girls must be on LP ('cause we're different people who likes different girls), but tattooed sluts like Alexxa Vice, Calisi Ink, Juelz Ventura, Nikita Belucci etc. definitely belongs here. And I expect only more in the future. I don't tell you not to shoot a dozens of boring Russian girls who all looks the same to me (I'm not speaking about top LP girls like Arwen Gold or Karina Grand, but those who don't even have the last name and was shot like ten years ago, and many of those scenes are lesbian scenes (on LegalPorno, really…), you don't tell me about tattooed girls, especially the ones who love to take it in the ass, and that's pretty much every one of them. Many people just don't care or even loves tattoos. Now we have one scene out of three with "noname" girls, every day (you know what I'm talking about, it's always a third scene out of three), looks like it was shot in the 1990s, LOL. It's better be one DAP with tattooed girl everyday than this. I'd better watch Alexxa Vice takes two dicks in the ass than two lesbian "Natashas" with no last name licking each other in a scene that looks likes 20 years old, LOL.

VBT_2 wrote:OK, this is how I see it.

In real life, mentally I see an empty person - so empty that she, or he, have to rely on shallow, visually induced support and validation of others, masked by wannabe “depth” must-make-impression attitude. Person without personal personality, way too much defined by environment and without enough self-confidence, self-respect and spirituality.

Please stop it the judge! Is For real? Hello Wittgenstein? Hello kierkegaard?

- In real life, mentally I see an empty person.

See it full.

moorerocky458 wrote:

avanfurwet wrote:

Kriss1986 wrote:So do I . Generally I don't like all huge tatoos, or tatoos on breast, calf; however there are few girls with tatoos who I like - Romi Rain, Mila Milan, Lucia Love. I really don't know why . But as I said I respect models choices.

Yeah, and I kinda like Belle Claire. She's obviously stunning but not my type at all. Big personality though.

agree a few small tattoo like belle claire & ria sunn is good ,more then that i dont like so much.

Both of mentioned girls have discreet and not eye-cathing tatoos so it's still fine. I'm also not a fan of this huge, enormous and weird tatoos on whole body.

yeahyeahyeah wrote:

VBT_2 wrote:OK, this is how I see it.

In real life, mentally I see an empty person - so empty that she, or he, have to rely on shallow, visually induced support and validation of others, masked by wannabe “depth” must-make-impression attitude. Person without personal personality, way too much defined by environment and without enough self-confidence, self-respect and spirituality.

Please stop it the judge! Is For real? Hello Wittgenstein? Hello kierkegaard?

- In real life, mentally I see an empty person.

See it full.

I believe that my Japanese isn't good enough to understand your English.

VBT_2 wrote:

yeahyeahyeah wrote:

VBT_2 wrote:OK, this is how I see it.

In real life, mentally I see an empty person - so empty that she, or he, have to rely on shallow, visually induced support and validation of others, masked by wannabe “depth” must-make-impression attitude. Person without personal personality, way too much defined by environment and without enough self-confidence, self-respect and spirituality.

Please stop it the judge! Is For real? Hello Wittgenstein? Hello kierkegaard?

- In real life, mentally I see an empty person.

See it full.

I believe that my Japanese isn't good enough to understand your English.

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