hjohjole wrote:Hey WhynotmoreEuros, you seem like somewhat of an expert on "natural demographics". So i was just wondering if you could help explain a statistic on the page you linked.
It looks like the largest number of visitors on LP at the moment is from India. Is this because LP is using a majority of Indian male performers right now? Also does Indians count as "black" or as "asian", or can we just bunch all non white people together in one tidy group for the sake of simplicity?
That would work really well for me because i prefer to have a simple world view with simple explanations for complex phenomenon.
gapefan wrote:...you are trying to attach success or failure, to one variable. If you know anything about statistics you'll realize that there are MANY variables at play here.
A true statistician would also realize that correlation of one variable, does not imply causation of the other (i.e. sales).
FillThreeHoles wrote:I am looking for intensity and good tempo in my porn. I want the types of scenes, girls and action that LP is producing I personally really don't care what color is the guy doing the fucking. Porn is about niches, types of sex etc. Some sites are all interracial, DogFart for example. Studios like Evil Angel do all kinds of movies with all kinds of combinations with all kinds of directors etc. There is more than enough stuff out there if you don't want to see black cock with white women. If watching black cock with a euro white woman really bothers you that much you can watch PG, they are putting out some good stuff as well.
I find it a bit strange that you are so put off by the color of the male performers at LP simply because it is a European company.
gapefan wrote:Wrong again.
So 1 of 2 is now 'primarily'?
And you use the words 'non-Euro' 'non-White' only to your benefit, when there are obvious grey areas.
Would you care to address hjohjole's point?hjohjole wrote:Hey WhynotmoreEuros, you seem like somewhat of an expert on "natural demographics". So i was just wondering if you could help explain a statistic on the page you linked.
It looks like the largest number of visitors on LP at the moment is from India. Is this because LP is using a majority of Indian male performers right now? Also does Indians count as "black" or as "asian", or can we just bunch all non white people together in one tidy group for the sake of simplicity?
That would work really well for me because i prefer to have a simple world view with simple explanations for complex phenomenon.
And how about the rest of mine?gapefan wrote:...you are trying to attach success or failure, to one variable. If you know anything about statistics you'll realize that there are MANY variables at play here.
A true statistician would also realize that correlation of one variable, does not imply causation of the other (i.e. sales).
Or do you only acknowledge statistics that support your point of view?
Btw, I am a white male, from the West, and I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with LegalPorno's male talent.
Quite the contrary actually. I think they are all exceptional performers
FillThreeHoles wrote:You are basically repeating the same arguments ad nauseum at this point. You care what color the guy is because you can only imagine yourself with the girl unless the cock is the same color as yours. I have never even considered it, all I need from the guy is a working cock that is is a good size, stays hard and that he is able to fuck well without distracting me.
If it really matters to you what color the guy is, so be it.
If LP is going down because of this then they will go down. And your RK and CumLouder examples are fine, but there are a lot of other sites, directors whose success contradicts your thesis.
FillThreeHoles wrote:You are basically repeating the same arguments ad nauseum at this point.
ElJab78 wrote:FillThreeHoles wrote:You are basically repeating the same arguments ad nauseum at this point. You care what color the guy is because you can only imagine yourself with the girl unless the cock is the same color as yours. I have never even considered it, all I need from the guy is a working cock that is is a good size, stays hard and that he is able to fuck well without distracting me.
If it really matters to you what color the guy is, so be it.
If LP is going down because of this then they will go down. And your RK and CumLouder examples are fine, but there are a lot of other sites, directors whose success contradicts your thesis.
The dude is a troll. He just registered a username today. Called himself WhynomoreEuros and started complaining about not enough European men using the same arguments. It might be that guy Opium. Just let him say the same stuff over and over. Hes a idiot. Don't feed him anymore.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:Ha, the understatement of the thread. Dude, I looked at your posts before this. You have many posts saying how much you like "BBC" and that you want to see more interracial and Black men in your scenes...
...viewtopic.php?f=104&t=8463&p=39604&hilit=+bbc#p39604
Get the heck out of here.
hjohjole wrote:Hey WhynotmoreEuros, you seem like somewhat of an expert on "natural demographics". So i was just wondering if you could help explain a statistic on the page you linked.
It looks like the largest number of visitors on LP at the moment is from India. Is this because LP is using a majority of Indian male performers right now? Also does Indians count as "black" or as "asian", or can we just bunch all non white people together in one tidy group for the sake of simplicity?
That would work really well for me because i prefer to have a simple world view with simple explanations for complex phenomenon.
gapefan wrote:...you are trying to attach success or failure, to one variable. If you know anything about statistics you'll realize that there are MANY variables at play here.
A true statistician would also realize that correlation of one variable, does not imply causation of the other (i.e. sales).
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:you come in here acting like you're some detached reader.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=8463&p=39604&hilit=+bbc#p39604
Get the heck out of here.
hjohjole wrote:I don't think he is going to answer me. He probably searched trough all my posts and couldn't find one single request for BBC or interracial content. Poor guy
But i agree that he should head over to Perfect Gonzo if he is so insulted by just the sight of a black guy. They shoot the same top European girls in top picture quality with 100% white European male performers.
Still somehow they manage to have a much worse alexa ranking than LP.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.perfectgonzo.com
They are obviously in more dire need of his good advice than LP is. He should head over there and explain to them how their site would be doing much better with even fewer black guys.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:hjohjole wrote:I don't think he is going to answer me. He probably searched trough all my posts and couldn't find one single request for BBC or interracial content. Poor guy
But i agree that he should head over to Perfect Gonzo if he is so insulted by just the sight of a black guy. They shoot the same top European girls in top picture quality with 100% white European male performers.
Still somehow they manage to have a much worse alexa ranking than LP.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.perfectgonzo.com
They are obviously in more dire need of his good advice than LP is. He should head over there and explain to them how their site would be doing much better with even fewer black guys.
Answer you what? About why India's ranking is so high compared to other countries? Gee, the question should be why there is only ONE Euro country in the top five and that is France at number 5.
As for India, it has a billion+ people, most of whom don't have the extra money to afford LegalPorno in foreign currency. So guess what, you're turning off the base demographic of LegalPorno and are left with a middling interest from a group of people who generally can't afford the product!
With guys like you, LegalPorno will be broke in no time!
pornjedi wrote:I don't agree it's racist to prefer whatever race of men in your porn scenes. I like some uncensored Japanese porn, and while I have many Asian friends (not Japanese technically though), I can't stand them in the porn. As a result I don't download much, or keep much around, or even watch what I have, unless I come around to a phase where I want to see it again (like at my tailor's place, the girl who was fitting me was one of the most beautiful Asian girls I've seen, and so I came home in that mood).
Anyhow, there's nothing racist about me, and nothing racist with wanting white males. That's like saying you're homophobic if you don't watch gay porn, imo.
Also, I do like white guys more in general, because again I can imagine it's me, but I like a mix. Is there anyone in the forum who doesn't actually know sexual stimulation is in the brain? It's the thought about what's happening that makes it arousing, or stimulating. So it's ENTIRELY perception. I like white guys because I can imagine it's me. But what if it's got black guys? Then I imagine it's this hot white girl (typically anyhow) going at it with (again typically LOL) two or more black guys, or a mix race.
It's hot to me to see a girl going around sucking dicks of different races (well again, except for Asian guys). It's a different fantasy. So while I see nothing of racism in having the opinion, my view is it should be a mix. Again not everything the way I want, but a way to mix it up for all the members.
pornjedi wrote:WhynotmoreEuros wrote:hjohjole wrote:I don't think he is going to answer me. He probably searched trough all my posts and couldn't find one single request for BBC or interracial content. Poor guy
But i agree that he should head over to Perfect Gonzo if he is so insulted by just the sight of a black guy. They shoot the same top European girls in top picture quality with 100% white European male performers.
Still somehow they manage to have a much worse alexa ranking than LP.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/www.perfectgonzo.com
They are obviously in more dire need of his good advice than LP is. He should head over there and explain to them how their site would be doing much better with even fewer black guys.
Answer you what? About why India's ranking is so high compared to other countries? Gee, the question should be why there is only ONE Euro country in the top five and that is France at number 5.
As for India, it has a billion+ people, most of whom don't have the extra money to afford LegalPorno in foreign currency. So guess what, you're turning off the base demographic of LegalPorno and are left with a middling interest from a group of people who generally can't afford the product!
With guys like you, LegalPorno will be broke in no time!
You do know there are a number of reasons they have more than a 90:10 ratio of white men/black men in LP porn right? Many different reasons. I mean if you want to match society as it is, then you won't have 100 percent of the girls doing anal, you'll have barely 1 girl doing dap, etc. etc. So I guess you just want to match in demographics of race.
gapefan wrote:WhynotmoreEuros wrote:Ha, the understatement of the thread. Dude, I looked at your posts before this. You have many posts saying how much you like "BBC" and that you want to see more interracial and Black men in your scenes...
...viewtopic.php?f=104&t=8463&p=39604&hilit=+bbc#p39604
Get the heck out of here.
This made me laugh
I challenge you to find one post where I say how much I like BBC.
Here, I'll make your search easy
http://legalporno.com/forum/search.php?keywords=BBC&terms=all&author=gapefan&sv=0&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
Every single one of those results is either me quoting the title of a scene, or something PC_82 said.
Even if I was a fan of 'BBC' (which isn't the case, I'm simply a fan of LegalPorno and it's inclusion of Anal, Gapes, Farts, ATM, DAP, etc.), I am still a white male from the West! One who has absolutely no problem with LP's current (or past) male talent.
And once again, you completely ignore the following statements regarding statistics:hjohjole wrote:Hey WhynotmoreEuros, you seem like somewhat of an expert on "natural demographics". So i was just wondering if you could help explain a statistic on the page you linked.
It looks like the largest number of visitors on LP at the moment is from India. Is this because LP is using a majority of Indian male performers right now? Also does Indians count as "black" or as "asian", or can we just bunch all non white people together in one tidy group for the sake of simplicity?
That would work really well for me because i prefer to have a simple world view with simple explanations for complex phenomenon.gapefan wrote:...you are trying to attach success or failure, to one variable. If you know anything about statistics you'll realize that there are MANY variables at play here.
A true statistician would also realize that correlation of one variable, does not imply causation of the other (i.e. sales).
Lastly...WhynotmoreEuros wrote:you come in here acting like you're some detached reader.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=8463&p=39604&hilit=+bbc#p39604
Get the heck out of here.
You come here claiming to be some kind of representative or spokesperson for all of the West!
You are one person, just like the rest of us, and your view holds no more weight than any one person's does.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:pornjedi wrote:I don't agree it's racist to prefer whatever race of men in your porn scenes. I like some uncensored Japanese porn, and while I have many Asian friends (not Japanese technically though), I can't stand them in the porn. As a result I don't download much, or keep much around, or even watch what I have, unless I come around to a phase where I want to see it again (like at my tailor's place, the girl who was fitting me was one of the most beautiful Asian girls I've seen, and so I came home in that mood).
Anyhow, there's nothing racist about me, and nothing racist with wanting white males. That's like saying you're homophobic if you don't watch gay porn, imo.
Also, I do like white guys more in general, because again I can imagine it's me, but I like a mix. Is there anyone in the forum who doesn't actually know sexual stimulation is in the brain? It's the thought about what's happening that makes it arousing, or stimulating. So it's ENTIRELY perception. I like white guys because I can imagine it's me. But what if it's got black guys? Then I imagine it's this hot white girl (typically anyhow) going at it with (again typically LOL) two or more black guys, or a mix race.
It's hot to me to see a girl going around sucking dicks of different races (well again, except for Asian guys). It's a different fantasy. So while I see nothing of racism in having the opinion, my view is it should be a mix. Again not everything the way I want, but a way to mix it up for all the members.
Thank you, that's fine and a constructive response. I'm glad you actually constructed a counter-argument on what I did say, rather than what I didn't say.
A lot of the trolls here on this thread are so intimidated by what I said they tried to make up straw man arguments and call me racist etc.
I didn't say that there should be NO non-European men on the site (though if the creators went in that direction, they could make a case for it) I said that the proportion of European/White men on the site is far less than what it should be given the demographics of Europe and the likely demographic base of viewership.
That would be like a Nigerian website featuring all sub-saharan African girls but using far less African guys and importing Asian or European men to fuck the women. It would make no sense, and the site would under perform because of it.
Which is what is happening to LegalPorno.
But these trolls are so intimidated that they cannot accept that simple truth.
WhynotmoreIndians wrote:Hello
My name is Mahinder Rajesh Chandrakar. I am a big LP fan from the beautiful city of Bangalore, India, and as a member of the largest demographic that LP targets, I demand ALL Indian guys or I will cancel my membership IMMEDIATELY.
I cannot imagine myself having sex the girls with all these white barbarians blinding me. It is like staring directly into the sun. Someone needs to put some anti-reflective coating on their mongrel hides!
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:WhynotmoreIndians wrote:Hello
My name is Mahinder Rajesh Chandrakar. I am a big LP fan from the beautiful city of Bangalore, India, and as a member of the largest demographic that LP targets, I demand ALL Indian guys or I will cancel my membership IMMEDIATELY.
I cannot imagine myself having sex the girls with all these white barbarians blinding me. It is like staring directly into the sun. Someone needs to put some anti-reflective coating on their mongrel hides!
Speaking of trolls...
One of the "BBC" lovers is upset that someone is asking for LegalPorno to use common sense and cater to their natural demographic...obviously European and White men.
And as for the Indian angle...LP isn't even that popular in India relative to other porn sites and most Indians don't have that kind of money to spend on something in a more expensive foreign currency.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:Ha! Deny, deny, deny. Little BBC lover. You reply and link to several of those posts with approval, then you post your little fantasy reply about two MEN getting dp by "BBC."
pornjedi wrote:WhynotmoreEuros wrote:pornjedi wrote:I don't agree it's racist to prefer whatever race of men in your porn scenes. I like some uncensored Japanese porn, and while I have many Asian friends (not Japanese technically though), I can't stand them in the porn. As a result I don't download much, or keep much around, or even watch what I have, unless I come around to a phase where I want to see it again (like at my tailor's place, the girl who was fitting me was one of the most beautiful Asian girls I've seen, and so I came home in that mood).
Anyhow, there's nothing racist about me, and nothing racist with wanting white males. That's like saying you're homophobic if you don't watch gay porn, imo.
Also, I do like white guys more in general, because again I can imagine it's me, but I like a mix. Is there anyone in the forum who doesn't actually know sexual stimulation is in the brain? It's the thought about what's happening that makes it arousing, or stimulating. So it's ENTIRELY perception. I like white guys because I can imagine it's me. But what if it's got black guys? Then I imagine it's this hot white girl (typically anyhow) going at it with (again typically LOL) two or more black guys, or a mix race.
It's hot to me to see a girl going around sucking dicks of different races (well again, except for Asian guys). It's a different fantasy. So while I see nothing of racism in having the opinion, my view is it should be a mix. Again not everything the way I want, but a way to mix it up for all the members.
Thank you, that's fine and a constructive response. I'm glad you actually constructed a counter-argument on what I did say, rather than what I didn't say.
A lot of the trolls here on this thread are so intimidated by what I said they tried to make up straw man arguments and call me racist etc.
I didn't say that there should be NO non-European men on the site (though if the creators went in that direction, they could make a case for it) I said that the proportion of European/White men on the site is far less than what it should be given the demographics of Europe and the likely demographic base of viewership.
That would be like a Nigerian website featuring all sub-saharan African girls but using far less African guys and importing Asian or European men to fuck the women. It would make no sense, and the site would under perform because of it.
Which is what is happening to LegalPorno.
But these trolls are so intimidated that they cannot accept that simple truth.
Yes it's true you didn't ask for NO non-European men, but I wasn't sure if you though the proportion should be 90/10 - White/Black, because unless I am mistaken you suggested that's the European demographic. I don't think 90/10 is a balanced mix.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:
It's actually about the right balance but LegalPorno could probably get by with 80% A lot of the highest performing sites with a primarily White viewership use ZERO non-White or non-White Hispanic male talent. When scenes start getting to a point where viewers want to skip over 20%+ scenes off the bat, then they start thinking about canceling memberships or not buying tickets.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:A lot of the highest performing sites with a primarily White viewership use ZERO non-White or non-White Hispanic male talent.
WhynotmoreEuros wrote:This is a site produced in Europe, with European women...yet the men are primarily not European or even White.
I see people here saying that this site is underperforming, especially with the amount of content put out.
What a damn insult to European White men that you can't even use the MAJORITY population of men to fuck the women from their continent.
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