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Not just those girls, everyone is struggling.
This is such a resounding answer. Yes more or less yes. but they much more than some other professions and you can't do this for a long time(+other things around...) so I think they are just underestimated.

Nothing can be changed on the basis of the individual, but it is probably not appropriate to engage in deep philosophical debates here. Thanks for the valuable info (although bit disturbing) thanks to which I created a more comprehensive picture of this carousel and also for publishing this topic.

And still one more last question:
The equivalent of heights of pays you specify above is valid also for harder perfomaces like a DAPs,TAPs,Fistings etc?

Nothing can be changed on the basis of the individual

Someone like me has to win someday, but there's no one like me in this world,
One person can change everything, you'll see one day... Create a 1000 like you, you will never die.
I am already here... But you people won't crucify anyone this time...

tad shocked tbh. Last I read on it was the 90s....and then i read it was usually between £1k-2k per scene, and that's sterling...I wonder if the wage drop now is more down to the quantity available with streaming and all that......

but what do i know, i don't seem to be able to give it away atm! ;-)

I thought a girl gets a premium for every guy in a 10 on 1 scene. So, for example she gets a 1000 going rate + 200(?) for every extra guy in the gangbang.. Maybe that's why they like to do so many 10 on 1 scenes. Am I wrong?

when did it become legal to pay women more than the guy for the same 'job'? ;-)

Jake_Maverick wrote:when did it become legal to pay women more than the guy for the same 'job'? ;-)

It's only wrong when guys get paid more.

I'll fuck them for 50$ and will do 3 movies per day... Not kidding, it's a dream job.

dap-addict wrote:

RUShersgapersrises wrote:When I see high of pay, some things are starting to make sense. Except prices of some scenes.

If end user pays 8,7tkt for a 7on1 wet DAP that makes about 5$.
Now try to count girls fee + 7x studs fee + 8x wet supplement pay + studio rent + MU + cameraman + camera and tech investment + editors + server fees plus plus plus and than you tell me 5$ was a very high price?

For fairness I just want to add sth Giorgio Grandi points out in the crazy price rise thread: Girls fees have apparently skyrocket again!
Also he tells the example of a fairly new girl who asked triple the Veronica Leal DAP fee for her 1st DAP. That is completely crazy ofc!

Anyway, all prices and thus also girls fees are under pressure.
Porn had really crazy girls fees 2010-14 in Budapest, than thanks to LP moving to Prague and starting to shoot a lot of demanding, high price porn sex acts, girls fees got way fair and normal again. Since about 2019 they run out of hand in Prague again.
Fees have to be reasonable of course. A simple wet 5on1 DAP can't cost 3k!!!

dap-addict wrote:

dap-addict wrote:

RUShersgapersrises wrote:When I see high of pay, some things are starting to make sense. Except prices of some scenes.

If end user pays 8,7tkt for a 7on1 wet DAP that makes about 5$.
Now try to count girls fee + 7x studs fee + 8x wet supplement pay + studio rent + MU + cameraman + camera and tech investment + editors + server fees plus plus plus and than you tell me 5$ was a very high price?

For fairness I just want to add sth Giorgio Grandi points out in the crazy price rise thread: Girls fees have apparently skyrocket again!
Also he tells the example of a fairly new girl who asked triple the Veronica Leal DAP fee for her 1st DAP. That is completely crazy ofc!

Anyway, all prices and thus also girls fees are under pressure.
Porn had really crazy girls fees 2010-14 in Budapest, than thanks to LP moving to Prague and starting to shoot a lot of demanding, high price porn sex acts, girls fees got way fair and normal again. Since about 2019 they run out of hand in Prague again.
Fees have to be reasonable of course. A simple wet 5on1 DAP can't cost 3k!!!

But new girls will always have agents/pimps/boyfriends filling their heads with how much they say she can earn. Doesn't mean producers are willing (or able) to pay above market prices. So the new girls adapt to reality and compromise their expectations, or leave the market.

I still don't understand what is causing model rates to skyrocket at a time when models and wannabe models face economic recession in other employment opportunities coupled with pressure from rising living costs for food, heating etc. Normally that would mean more supply of girls willing to work as models for realistic fees. So something else appears to be happening.

avanfurwet wrote:I still don't understand what is causing model rates to skyrocket at a time when models and wannabe models face economic recession in other employment opportunities coupled with pressure from rising living costs for food, heating etc. Normally that would mean more supply of girls willing to work as models for realistic fees.

Skyrocketing started in 2018/19 with general job payment rises in Czech and got worse during pandemia with travel difficulties. Inflation and recession is just starting now and should sure lead to pressure on too high fees. But please keep in mind that some talent destinations like Russia might get cut off creating higher needs of local talent. All effects combined have still to be seen.
I'd be cautiously optimistic for a more realistic DAP rate again, though.
Not that sure about DP and DPP.

dap-addict wrote:

RUShersgapersrises wrote:When I see high of pay, some things are starting to make sense. Except prices of some scenes.

If end user pays 8,7tkt for a 7on1 wet DAP that makes about 5$.
Now try to count girls fee + 7x studs fee + 8x wet supplement pay + studio rent + MU + cameraman + camera and tech investment + editors + server fees plus plus plus and than you tell me 5$ was a very high price?

$5 should be more than enough for a digital download. Distribution costs are way lower than DVD,VHS. Of course it doesen't work with 1000 downloads. Nowadays, with a worldwide market always in reach, a few thousand downloads should be minimum. Except the quality of the content is bad, but thats not the customers fault.

umue12 wrote:Of course it doesen't work with 1000 downloads. Nowadays, with a worldwide market always in reach, a few thousand downloads should be minimum. Except the quality of the content is bad, but thats not the customers fault.

Quality isn't bad for core studios. They also recently rose prices for those who pay with tickets. Now its almost 1tkt = 1$ parity.
This said girls fees are still on the rise and so is basic costs like electricity, rent etc. in Czech. Also users and girls expect higher to get/do payed sex acts, which again makes investment to go up.
I hope that in upcoming economic crisis girls fees get back to fair and normal in order to reach a sustainability at least here. But other sides of sex industry may profit more from situation and thus fees will even rise more.

DAP base fee of 1 Czech average monthly income would be a fair.

edit: Going DAP fee of twice minimal wage in Czech Rep. + individual surcharge = average base fee. Due to talent pools going fee has also to be considerably higher than minimal wage in Italy. This for sure puts pressure on girls fees still. Anyway, it has to be reasonable, judged fair by all involved and thus sustainable.

Would love to see a detailed breakdown of rates, if someone has the time and knowledge.

I think nobody will give it to you. I sold/bought DAP at 1-2k last few years in Prague.
If girl also received 'piss' or got fisted it was +-0,2 more expensive per each side fetish, except with fringe cheapo studios.