Custom Content Help

[Gagandrim]

How much do you want to pay for it?*
I know this is an important topic. Generally few hundreds gives you some custom additions, if you want a full scene we go in the order of thousands. Order a custom order means to "open somehow a negotiation". In the case you offer too less, I will be able to replay you with counteroffer for you to approve.

Awesome, thank you. I was wondering about this, if there would be a potential negotiation in case I offered too little, or to discuss the scene further.

The system is not meant for have a conversation imho, so just add the more data/info you can and propose a budget, the studio will replay with their thoughts .
Personally I am not here to "play to the upside", just try to make a proposition that makes sense.

That's fine with me, as I know what I want; the information I don't know is if the models are willing to do it, if the studio is willing to do it (if I should book a studio rather than a model), if LegalPorno/AnalVids would release it, and how much it might cost. That information being provided to me would make the process much smoother.

[greenfunk727]

Gagandrim - Having been through the process myself I would offer the following advice.

The studio needs to know you are not a time waster. Lots of people on this forum have ideas or suggestions that they want to see. It is not practical for the studio to listen to every idea as that takes a lot of time.

The custom content is a big umbrella from I want to see 5 minutes footage of a models bare-feet to I want specific model to get gangbanged by 10 midgets while covered in jam. The bare-feet footage would be cheap the midget jam gangbang is going to set you back a lot of money and will be harder to arrange.

If you know what you want I suggest you fill out the custom scene box giving as much detail as possible. You will have to pay money to submit your idea before someone contacts you. You will then discuss options with the studio about your idea. For example they may inform you that they have an upcoming shooting schedule with certain models and you can then discuss who, how and when. If you can't find common ground you will get your money back.

If a scene is planning to take place anyway. For instance over then next few weeks several models will be lined up by various studios to shoot scenes. Would you be happy with one of these models? They can then discuss what you want to see with the model.

The only way is to pay the money up front and then negotiate

Hope this info helps

[Gagandrim]

greenfunk: Yes, that does help. And I agree that not wasting the model/studio's time is important, so it makes sense that you'd pay up front, so they know you're serious.

[dap-addict]

Problem still is I think most users cannot really imagine how much sth costs to get shot on a porn set. So Giorgio Grandi posted about a few 100$ for some lines to be said (as greenfunk wanted) and a few 1000$ for a whole scene. But thats still very wage.
For instance I guess greenfunk didnt just pay 200$ upfront and started to negotiate, even though these 6 sentences can't have cost him more than 0,5k for sure I guess.
Same with full scenes. If sb would pay 2000$ upfront, what can he get for that? Is it enough? (no, its isnt if its not a solo scene)
Thus some kind of further guidance by LP/AV studios - without revealing real fees for the girls ofc - would be helpful I think. Just an idea.

Or at least giving minimal upfront payments - like 200$ for few words, 2000$ for whole scene, in order just to start negotiation.

One last thing: How can I trust sending in 2000$ if there is barely any communication here? Me, personally and sure now also you, greenfunk, would trust Giorgio Grandi because of past experiences, yes, but who else? Who has experiences? - System has also to work for usual normal users and customers!

[Giorgio Grandi]

Problem still is I think most users cannot really imagine how much sth costs to get shot on a porn set. So Giorgio Grandi posted about a few 100$ for some lines to be said (as greenfunk wanted) and a few 1000$ for a whole scene. But thats still very wage.
For instance I guess greenfunk didnt just pay 200$ upfront and started to negotiate, even though these 6 sentences can't have cost him more than 0,5k for sure I guess.
Same with full scenes. If sb would pay 2000$ upfront, what can he get for that? Is it enough? (no, its isnt if its not a solo scene)
Thus some kind of further guidance by LP/AV studios - without revealing real fees for the girls ofc - would be helpful I think. Just an idea.

Or at least giving minimal upfront payments - like 200$ for few words, 2000$ for whole scene, in order just to start negotiation.

One last thing: How can I trust sending in 2000$ if there is barely any communication here? Me, personally and sure now also you, greenfunk, would trust Giorgio Grandi because of past experiences, yes, but who else? Who has experiences? - System has also to work for usual normal users and customers!

You dont get the point of all of this. The system is meant for the user to request a content, to make profit with it is something secondary imho.

Now I make you few example for you to understand:
- if you want some customised stuff into a scene, as greenfunk asked, just offer $100+ and probably it will be done. Eventually the studio will negotiate.
- If you want to see again a model that evidently do not get a lot of audience, than you need to offer more money. Somehow the user should be able to "cover" the loss of profit from the studio. So, in this case, a model that I would not shoot again, maybe gets another chance if your offer is able to cover my loss. If you ask a sharing of profit of this, maybe you get disappointed, assuming I accept the offer. Eventually the studio will negotiate.
- You want to invest into a scene and get a cut of profit? Well, you need to understand that if a scene is profitable, there is no reason for me to take your money to shoot a content and after give you a cut. Maybe some smaller studio would be interest in this because they lack of cash to produce and they need to wait a payment to produce a new scene, so with your cash they will be able to have a more constant workflow. So, in this case, maybe not all studio is interested, no matter how much money you ask
- Do you want to take a risk on a content that is actually under-released? This is where you maybe get the possibility to make get a sharing of profit, but you share also the risk.
- Do you want to make a tip to your favourite model? This is a good system to direct some cash directly to a model, even using a studio. Smt like "ehy GG, I send you 200$. Give the money to the model YYY and ask her to say thank you in the video"

[stevehappy339]

Personally I am not here to "play to the upside", just try to make a proposition that makes sense.

Sounds good, but isn't the problem that most normal porn users dont know the rates neither for sex acts and studs, but also basic costs like studio rent, MU, cameramen, lighting, assisent, driver etc.
You wrote a bit in the past (around 2018/19) about it. Maybe you could give usual users some up-dated clues. Just an idea.

The point, is not how much cost a sexual act, but how much you are willing to pay in exchange for what you would like to see (something usually not include in the "daily" content).

If instead you want to be an investor and get a cut from the profit, something I am personally not very interesting, the point is more to invest the money and let the studio do his job. To produce the content you like, to make money, is not the way to make money.
If you want to make money, you let the studio to decide the what content to produce as a studio is more qualified to know the market

this seems like a fair point

[stevehappy339]

seems like this misunderstanding is happening due to a lack of understanding between
crowdfunding(this one has not yet launched and Giorgio's studio might not be interested in this)-in this if you fund you would be a stakeholder of the profit if you're interested -there are 2 scenarios to this
1. if the funder knows about the porn business and has certain ideas for shooting and the studio is interested in his/her idea's - this leads to a different path
2. if the funder knows nothing about the porn business then the studio might give him a brief of things and let them handle things - the majority of the forum falls in this category because most of us are porn consumers
and
custom scene(the usual stuff which people know) -
pay up money beforehand and discuss if the scenario which you are interested in can be shoot or not, if not money would be returned
this might seem confusing but there is a thin line that differentiates these two things

hope this fixes doubts about customs and crowdfunding

[magizi87]

I wonder how much money does Giorgio want, to direct himself and replicate an old scene,
maybe with a with a few modifications and with different model?

For example:

Black busters Barbarian Edition 6on1 Brittany Love - GIO318

This movie always called to me, but I don´t like Bittany Love.
In particular her eye makeup is... I just hate, lol.

So I never bought it.

But her deepthroat skills
and how the guys slam their cocks in her ass,
using her body to propel them selves deeper,
plus all the manhandle, which IMO wasn't something
that she couldn't handle, that is key.

WOW!

I want to see that movie, minus the DAP and even the DP, no buttrose either
and go forbid any form of watersports. lol
just deep hard pounding anal and deepthroats,
with like, I dunno... Kristy Black

I can fill this board with gifs if you want, if you need further detail,
Although I figure it's just easier for you to watch that movie / trailer
and it should be crystal clear.

How much money does it take for Giorgio Grandi to make movies, worth buying again.

[dap-addict]

Problem still is I think most users cannot really imagine how much sth costs to get shot on a porn set. So Giorgio Grandi posted about a few 100$ for some lines to be said (as greenfunk wanted) and a few 1000$ for a whole scene. But thats still very wage.
For instance I guess greenfunk didnt just pay 200$ upfront and started to negotiate, even though these 6 sentences can't have cost him more than 0,5k for sure I guess.
Same with full scenes. If sb would pay 2000$ upfront, what can he get for that? Is it enough? (no, its isnt if its not a solo scene)
Thus some kind of further guidance by LP/AV studios - without revealing real fees for the girls ofc - would be helpful I think. Just an idea.
(...)

You dont get the point of all of this. The system is meant for the user to request a content, to make profit with it is something secondary imho.
(...)

by stevehappy339 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:25 am
seems like this misunderstanding is happening due to a lack of understanding between
crowdfunding

Thank you both, but this is kind of funny:
In my post I was neither thinking or even mentioning profit, nor crowdfunding.
All I wanted to say was that usual fans need some kind of guideline how much shooting porn costs.
Me personally, I know a lot of going fees for certain porn sex acts, which I would never share here in the open, but with side-fetishes such as where I would want the cum-shots to land or what I would want the girl to say I am also clueless.
And what then with a fan convinced the girl earns 20'000$ per DP and each stud 10'000$. Such fan could maybe afford something, but he will not even try because so much money he doenst have. Just an example showing how non-info or lack of basic parameters may kill a good idea.

[Wotan29]

I wonder how much money does Giorgio want, to direct himself and replicate an old scene,
maybe with a with a few modifications and with different model?

For example:

Black busters Barbarian Edition 6on1 Brittany Love - GIO318

This movie always called to me, but I don´t like Bittany Love.
In particular her eye makeup is... I just hate, lol.

So I never bought it.

But her deepthroat skills
and how the guys slam their cocks in her ass,
using her body to propel them selves deeper,
plus all the manhandle, which IMO wasn't something
that she couldn't handle, that is key.

WOW!

I want to see that movie, minus the DAP and even the DP, no buttrose either
and go forbid any form of watersports. lol
just deep hard pounding anal and deepthroats,
with like, I dunno... Kristy Black

I can fill this board with gifs if you want, if you need further detail,
Although I figure it's just easier for you to watch that movie / trailer
and it should be crystal clear.

How much money does it take for Giorgio Grandi to make movies, worth buying again.

The sentence marked in bold and especially the part marked in red is the key sentence.

The easiest way would be: Giorgio finally producing amazing, unique porn again (such as the your mentioned barbarian scene, so no checklist scenes!). Then this whole customer content thing would be almost superfluous. Why pay thousands of euros and/or take a risk of profit when you get what you want anyway...

Custom content may make sense for very special wishes/fetishes, that otherwise would most likely not appear in a "normal" scene. But when it comes down to such a result, like the latest Yelena Vera scene, which is prominently advertised with "custom content", then it gets silly. Because in fact this is just another scene, that Giorgio produces over and over again in exactly this style. Except of course the customer request was "Here's my money, Giorgio ... please shoot a scene with Yelena Vera, that is like all the other scenes"...

Conclusion: Giorgio, shoot some scenes again like you did years ago. Direct by yourself, use special locations from time to time, develop storylines/series like the "Clockwork Gang" again, finally offer BTS again with personal moments and exciting insights, etc. etc. etc. Then custom content actually would be unnecessary at all.

[dap-addict]

Then custom content actually would be unnecessary at all.

Simple question: Why would pornbox.com change their website and add custom content buttons for videos and fotos if they didnt wanna precisely to shoot custom content and/or if they didnt want to tap this so far pretty underground market where lots of additional money can be earned ideally?

[stevehappy339]

by stevehappy339 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:25 am
seems like this misunderstanding is happening due to a lack of understanding between
crowdfunding

Thank you both, but this is kind of funny:
In my post I was neither thinking or even mentioning profit, nor crowdfunding.
All I wanted to say was that usual fans need some kind of guideline how much shooting porn costs.
Me personally, I know a lot of going fees for certain porn sex acts, which I would never share here in the open, but with side-fetishes such as where I would want the cum-shots to land or what I would want the girl to say I am also clueless.
And what then with a fan convinced the girl earns 20'000$ per DP and each stud 10'000$. Such fan could maybe afford something, but he will not even try because so much money he doenst have. Just an example showing how non-info or lack of basic parameters may kill a good idea.

customs usually start at 100$ that's the beginning of the spectrum