Short/Petite Girls Appreciation

[Starrio]

Anything fantasy is fine, just like killing on movies, you don't want anyone to die or get gun down, no one wants to see anyone getting murdered cold blood, but movies are fantasy so it is OK, well, if someone has half of a brain they can understand the same goes with anything else, such as rape, school girls, grandmas, whatever.

[Starrio]

I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Another case are all the schoolgirl themed porn movies out there.
There I feel much more uneasy actually!

I wasn't talking about you, I know you are a very smart man. I was talking about the others.

[Kaderon]

I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.

I think everyone has to decide for themselves how they feel about these posts. You can't look into people' heads.


Stuff like children or rape is not fanatsy, it is a mental disorder. Millions watch action movies without developing the urge to kill people.How many fanaticize about children and rape without not having this urge in them? Not a single person who is mentally healthy IMO.

[Starrio]

Stuff like children or rape is not fanatsy, it is a mental disorder. Millions watch action movies without developing the urge to kill people.How many fanaticize about children and rape without not having this urge in them? Not a single person who is mentally healthy IMO.

The opposite, if they can watch it without having the urge to do it then they are mentally healthy, it is the ones with the urge to do it the ones with the problem, and that's something you can't control, like those guys that do massacres and stuff.

[Kaderon]

No, sorry. No mentally healthy person fantasizes with children or rape. That is my opinion. Some can control this desire, some cannot. But just the desire to see something like that or to fanaticize about it is for me a sign of a mental disorder. These people should seek help before they can no longer control it and harm other people.

[Starrio]

No, sorry. No mentally healthy person fantasizes with children or rape. That is my opinion. Some can control this desire, some cannot. But just the desire to see something like that or to fanaticize about it is for me a sign of a mental disorder. These people should seek help before they can no longer control it and harm other people.

I think you didn't understand what I said. What I said is that if you see someone getting killed in a movie and you fantasize about that of course you are fucked up in the head.

Also I think children is too strong of a word for this argument, usually guys that like high school girls they like girls in High School because it is nostalgic since those are the first sexual experiences people has.

Children is a whole different realm of mental illness. Those guys are clearly fucked up. That's not debatable.

Rape I have to disagree because again is just like killing, it's a fantasy, but I don't think anyone wants to kill or rape anybody, and if they do, then yes, obviously that person is fucked in the head.

Make sure you understand before you comment because sometimes it feels like I'm talking to a wall.

[Starrio]

Actually before anything let me correct my first paragraph I meant to say and you fantasize about doing it in real life in the sense of "wanting to do it for real", then that's bad, but if it is just fantasy in the sense of imagination then it's not bad.

I want to make sure I clarified that because that actually needed to be clarified, and if you didn't understand that, it would be my fault because that paragraph was definitely incomplete.

[drevokocur66]

I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.

I think everyone has to decide for themselves how they feel about these posts. You can't look into people' heads.


Stuff like children or rape is not fanatsy, it is a mental disorder. Millions watch action movies without developing the urge to kill people.How many fanaticize about children and rape without not having this urge in them? Not a single person who is mentally healthy IMO.

WTF are you blabbing about? If millions watched rape movies, they would not develop an urge to go rape people.

[Kaderon]

^If you sexualize rape and become aroused by it, then you have a propensity for it. Every normal mind feels disgust when it sees rape. This happens, for example, with Hollywood films. But if you get aroused by it and watch porn on the subject, you are a pretty sick person.

[Starrio]

^If you sexualize rape and become aroused by it, then you have a propensity for it. Every normal mind feels disgust when it sees rape. This happens, for example, with Hollywood films. But if you get aroused by it and watch porn on the subject, you are a pretty sick person.

A lot of people celebrate killings in Hollywood movies, they want to see a guy get killed, or another guy just killing many. It's not arousing because is not sexual, but it is exciting like seeing John Wick doing a bunch of head shots.

Do that means these people are sick? Yes, but only if they want to do it to real people. The same happens with rape, it is sick if they want to do it for real, but not in fantasy.

If you can't understand the difference I think you are probably just one of those political fanatics of some sort, and maybe that doesn't let you see the difference.

Or maybe you see the difference, but won't accept it for argument sake, in both situations we are just losing time here. The difference is super obvious. It's hard to understand how can someone not see it.

[drevokocur66]

^If you sexualize rape and become aroused by it, then you have a propensity for it. Every normal mind feels disgust when it sees rape. This happens, for example, with Hollywood films. But if you get aroused by it and watch porn on the subject, you are a pretty sick person.

So arousal is the problem here, and if I get aroused by watching a cooking show, and then I seek out food porn, I am a pretty sick person.

[Kaderon]

So arousal is the problem here, and if I get aroused by watching a cooking show, and then I seek out food porn, I am a pretty sick person.

Sex with food has no victims. If it makes you horny how someone jerks off on a loaf of bread - it may be weird but it's not sick. But if it makes you horny when violence is inflicted on others, and rape is nothing else, then you are sick.

[Starrio]

So arousal is the problem here, and if I get aroused by watching a cooking show, and then I seek out food porn, I am a pretty sick person.

Sex with food has no victims. If it makes you horny how someone jerks off on a loaf of bread - it may be weird but it's not sick. But if it makes you horny when violence is inflicted on others, and rape is nothing else, then you are sick.

The key here is the difference between fantasy and ifsomething actually happens.

For example if someone records real rape, and that excites you then yes, you are sick, but if it is acting, then no, it is no different than enjoying action movies with lots of killing.

[Kaderon]

^Imagine you are walking in the park and you witness a rape. Could you jerk off an hour later to a scene where rape is simulated? I don't think so. I don't believe that your brain classifies the same situation as repulsive and arousing. You don't hear about a child porn case on the news that disgusts you and then watch a porn scene with a schoolgirl fantasy.

[Starrio]

^Imagine you are walking in the park and you witness a rape. Could you jerk off an hour later to a scene where rape is simulated? I don't think so. I don't believe that your brain classifies the same situation as repulsive and arousing. You don't hear about a child porn case on the news that disgusts you and then watch a porn scene with a schoolgirl fantasy.

That's just trying too hard, if someone does that yeah that person has problems, but for the most part these themes in fantasy settings are OK.

Also we already clarified that children crosses the line. Even cold blood killing children in movies isn't acceptable. There is a massive difference there

Most people have their first sexual experiences with high school girls, so it is nostalgic, and in a fantasy setting is OK, just like killing is OK in fantasy settings, murderers, massacres, etc..

You don't need to be very smart to understand those differences, if you can't understand those differences then you definitely have a problem.

[Kaderon]

You can think you're as smart as you want, but you can't outsmart your brain IMO. I can't be afraid of something or disgusted by something and then jerk off 5 minutes later to the fantasy version.

[Starrio]

You can think you're as smart as you want, but you can't outsmart your brain IMO. I can't be afraid of something or disgusted by something and then jerk off 5 minutes later to the fantasy version.

Didn't you read my first paragraph, in an extreme situation like that, yes that would be weird. I already agreed with that.

However in the general sense, sexual fantasies can vary and it is perfectly normal. It is a case by case situation, only dumb people think things in life are black or white. That's not how the world works, neither it should.

[Iddaoeeok]

Back to the subject of short/petite girls, gorgeous Anita Bellini, one of the best ever.

[JonnyMcjonny]

Well this thread opened up a can of worms!! I love petite girls who can get manhandled with ease BUT not the petite models with flat chests etc. It’s not the age they look it’s the height. My post about Gauge was that she was tiny height wise but had a real cute body. Those tits were awesome. She did the babysitter/schoolgirl scenes but her best ones were when she was just getting fucked by two guys. DP. The way she took the cumshots was always awesome. Great contributions though.

[Sir Noel]

No, sorry. No mentally healthy person fantasizes with children or rape. That is my opinion. Some can control this desire, some cannot. But just the desire to see something like that or to fanaticize about it is for me a sign of a mental disorder. These people should seek help before they can no longer control it and harm other people.

You need to read a few Nancy Friday books. Nancy is famous for investigating and documenting women's sexual fantasies. What is interesting is just how common it is for women to fantasise about rape type scenarios.
Part of the point of our fantasies is precisely that they ARE fantasies: they are things we do not do in real life and frequently, like many of the women Friday documented, would not wish to do in real life.
If you cannot distingusih fantasy (and the role of fantasy) from reality then YOU are the one with a mental disorder.

[Kaderon]

If you cannot distingusih fantasy (and the role of fantasy) from reality then YOU are the one with a mental disorder.

So fantasy has no boundaries for you? If it makes you horny it is in no way disturbing as long as it is a fantasy scene, right?

[InsideA41YearOldGirl]

Yes, Kadron, exactly what it is. There is power fantasies, slave fantasies, and everything in between. Several women write rape erotica of their own volition in sites like literotica or fanfiction.net, often visualizing their rapist as their favorite actor or character. It is a form of BDSM, where he you give up the control of deciding if you have sex or pleasure. Being spanked is pretty similar but you're aren't fighting over this, are you?

I don't would object to such a scene on this site, specially when hundreds, maybe thousands of scenes like those were done before, and no scientists on the planet linked porn movies of that type with real cases of rape.

[powerful76]

I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Another case are all the schoolgirl themed porn movies out there.
There I feel much more uneasy actually!

thats exactly what is for me...
super skinny, tiny girls facing girth cocks...
the stretch and size differences...
thats what exciting for me...
nothing related with age.
even elder girls ( 60+) , if they are super skinny, and are facing huge cocks , i find super exciting!

[Sir Noel]

If you cannot distingusih fantasy (and the role of fantasy) from reality then YOU are the one with a mental disorder.

So fantasy has no boundaries for you? If it makes you horny it is in no way disturbing as long as it is a fantasy scene, right?

Yes, as long as you are mature enough to seperate fabtasy from reality then no issues.
Go and have a look at the latest Mortal Kombat game and you will see fantasy material way way more horrific than anything discussed here (the "fatality" moves especially). You think we should judge people enjoying such games as if they literally want to tear people's skulls open or pull their spines out their severed necks?

[Kaderon]

Yes, as long as you are mature enough to seperate fabtasy from reality then no issues.

I think the human being has established a certain connection to violence in the process of his evolution. And for healthy people it is classifiable and even imaginable. I think every person has the instinct to use violence to protect his life or that of his loved ones. Therefore, our mind can classify it in entertainment form, although it would disgust him in reality.

But if a work colleague says to me that he has just watched an animation where an baby was raped by 10 men, I would say that the man is disturbed. Just having the impulse to watch something like this says a lot about him.

Sex with children is not part of our evolution. It is not an instinct, nothing familiar, but a misguided desire. Therefore, such a thing, even in the form of a fantasy, is a sick behavior IMO.

[Starrio]

Yes, as long as you are mature enough to seperate fabtasy from reality then no issues.

I think the human being has established a certain connection to violence in the process of his evolution. And for healthy people it is classifiable and even imaginable. I think every person has the instinct to use violence to protect his life or that of his loved ones. Therefore, our mind can classify it in entertainment form, although it would disgust him in reality.

But if a work colleague says to me that he has just watched an animation where an baby was raped by 10 men, I would say that the man is disturbed. Just having the impulse to watch something like this says a lot about him.

Sex with children is not part of our evolution. It is not an instinct, nothing familiar, but a misguided desire. Therefore, such a thing, even in the form of a fantasy, is a sick behavior IMO.

You quoted something you didn't understand. He said "as long as you are mature enough to seperate fantasy from reality then no issues."

We see people getting decapitated on movies all the time, people getting dismembered, getting their bodies open, guts everywhere, torture, brutal killings, in animation, movies, games, etc..

All that stuff is obviously messed up, you could say it is a misguided desire, but in reality no healthy person wants that to happen to someone in real life, and that's why it is fine in movies, books, games, etc., if you are mature enough to understand it is just fiction.

If you are not smart enough to know the difference between real and fantasy then I agree with you, you should not be watching that stuff.

[Kaderon]

You quoted something you didn't understand. He said "as long as you are mature enough to seperate fantasy from reality then no issues."

I think any psychologist will agree that watching child pornography in fantasy form is a worrisome behavior. Even if one is aware that this is just fiction, that no child will come to harm, the conscious decision to look at these drawn or animated images is abnormal.

Why is child pornography in drawn and animated form, banned in most countries? Because the governments believe that citizens cannot distinguish reality from fiction? Why do governments allow video games and movies where you can massacre people, but at the same time there are no video games and movies where children are raped. As long as people can tell the difference between reality and fiction, that shouldn't be a problem, in your opinion.

If everything is okay in fantasy form, if you recognize the difference between fiction and reality, why is one legal and the other forbidden?

[Starrio]

I think any psychologist will agree that watching child pornography in fantasy form is a worrisome behavior. Even if one is aware that this is just fiction, that no child will come to harm, the conscious decision to look at these drawn or animated images is abnormal.

Why is child pornography in drawn and animated form, banned in most countries? Because the governments believe that citizens cannot distinguish reality from fiction? Why do governments allow video games and movies where you can massacre people, but at the same time there are no video games and movies where children are raped. As long as people can tell the difference between reality and fiction, that shouldn't be a problem, in your opinion.

If everything is okay in fantasy form, if you recognize the difference between fiction and reality, why is one legal and the other forbidden?

Child pornography is obviously bad because in order to do that they may use real children which are not mentally ready for such roles, it is abuse, and it is not acceptable, that's just common sense, we covered that already.

In terms of animation or games a lot of times is because of culture, and also because of political fanatics that just want to be right in their made up beliefs.

It is the same reason why in some countries it is OK to kill babies in the womb and in others it is not, it comes down to political fanatism more than reason or common sense.

Which to be fair is actually fine because if people of that low intelligence are in government it means a big chunk of the population is also low intelligence so they do need those regulations.

Also most people that like school girl fantasies don't ever go near children in those fantasies, it is mostly high school girls that can already reproduce because most people have their first sexual experiences with high school girls, so it is nostalgic.

If the guy was a loser in high school and didn't get laid until college then he probably won't feel anything for high school girls, and his nostalgic feelings will be more towards college girls.

When it come to rape fantasies it is fine as long as he knows the difference between fantasy and reality.

[drevokocur66]

I think any psychologist will agree that watching child pornography in fantasy form is a worrisome behavior. Even if one is aware that this is just fiction, that no child will come to harm, the conscious decision to look at these drawn or animated images is abnormal.

Why is child pornography in drawn and animated form, banned in most countries? Because the governments believe that citizens cannot distinguish reality from fiction? Why do governments allow video games and movies where you can massacre people, but at the same time there are no video games and movies where children are raped. As long as people can tell the difference between reality and fiction, that shouldn't be a problem, in your opinion.

If everything is okay in fantasy form, if you recognize the difference between fiction and reality, why is one legal and the other forbidden?

Child pornography is obviously bad because in order to do that they may use real children which are not mentally ready for such roles, it is abuse, and it is not acceptable, that's just common sense, we covered that already.

In terms of animation or games a lot of times is because of culture, and also because of political fanatics that just want to be right in their made up beliefs.

It is the same reason why in some countries it is OK to kill babies in the womb and in others it is not, it comes down to political fanatism more than reason or common sense.

Which to be fair is actually fine because if people of that low intelligence are in government it means a big chunk of the population is also low intelligence so they do need those regulations.

Also most people that like school girl fantasies don't ever go near children in those fantasies, it is mostly high school girls that can already reproduce because most people have their first sexual experiences with high school girls, so it is nostalgic.

If the guy was a loser in high school and didn't get laid until college then he probably won't feel anything for high school girls, and his nostalgic feelings will be more towards college girls.

When it come to rape fantasies it is fine as long as he knows the difference between fantasy and reality.

FFS, give it a rest, you are the only one bringing up the child porn into this convo. Shut it already.

[Kaderon]

^If it bothers you, ignore it. Then you can sit in front of your computer and jerk off all day long.

[Starrio]

^If it bothers you, ignore it. Then you can sit in front of your computer and jerk off all day long.

Yeah, I agree with him, you keep bringing the whole children thing because you have no arguments, we have tried to make you understand, but it seems you are not open to understand. All you can do is bring children into the conversation even though we covered that already multiple times, and explained with detail multiple times. There is a difference, you can't just mix it in hoping it is going to matter when you are mixing apples and oranges.

[Kaderon]

I started with child pornography, so I didn't mix anything up. I have said that I find it disturbing that girls are demanded who have the dimensions of children. If that's all okay with you, as long as it's fantasy, then so be it. It was my mistake to start such a discussion.In a forum where every 2 days a new thread on the subject of scat, vomit and lastly sex with animals is opened. I'm sorry, I didn't want to be a bone killer for anyone.

[davebowman]

Midget looks is the cut off for me. But tall or short, proportionate is the key.

This makes me wonder - how short can a girl get before she literally gets into 'midget' territory? Who is the shortest pornstar - either here or in general - who still has the proportions of a normal woman?

[justinwarren41]

I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Another case are all the schoolgirl themed porn movies out there.
There I feel much more uneasy actually!

thats exactly what is for me...
super skinny, tiny girls facing girth cocks...
the stretch and size differences...
thats what exciting for me...
nothing related with age.
even elder girls ( 60+) , if they are super skinny, and are facing huge cocks , i find super exciting!

My feeling exactly powerful76 ^^^

Could be a large age gap, BBC vs Blonde girls, girl next door paired with tattooed suicide girl, or in this case small girls taking DAP

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Just like to see it!

[Starrio]

I started with child pornography, so I didn't mix anything up. I have said that I find it disturbing that girls are demanded who have the dimensions of children. If that's all okay with you, as long as it's fantasy, then so be it. It was my mistake to start such a discussion.In a forum where every 2 days a new thread on the subject of scat, vomit and lastly sex with animals is opened. I'm sorry, I didn't want to be a bone killer for anyone.

I know you did, but covered that already. No one is thinking of children with petite girls, that's just your dirty mind. Most sexual desires usually come from pass experiences, and girls are normally attracted to taller guys, so it makes sense that some guys have a thing for girls shorter than then because it is congruent with their past experiences.

In the cases where they do ask for a school girl uniform for example, no one is thinking of children, that's just your own dirty mind. They are asking for girls in uniform that reminds them of high school girls, not children because most people first sexual experiences are with girls in high school, so it is nostalgic.

The way you bring children in the conversation out of nowhere makes me think this is what you have in your mind, and maybe it is a past you want to forget about, or at least not be reminded of, and that's why you keep confusing oranges and apples, maybe you started with sexual experiences with girls way tok young, and now you feel guilty, I really don't know, it just doesn't make sense anything you said, or how you don't understand very clear differences.

[Kaderon]

No one is thinking of children with petite girls(...)

My absolute last comment on this - to put something like that as a fact sounds absurd to me. There are millions of pedophiles in our society and thank God not all of them have access to the dark net or other materials. It's naive to think that these people won't look for replacements where the actors look as much like children as possible. But there are countless justifications for everything.

And they don't ask for uniforms here either. They are talking about body measurements of 140 cm and 40 kg. These are not measurements of petit women, not even of high school girls.

[Starrio]

No one is thinking of children with petite girls(...)

My absolute last comment on this - to put something like that as a fact sounds absurd to me. There are millions of pedophiles in our society and thank God not all of them have access to the dark net or other materials. It's naive to think that these people won't look for replacements where the actors look as much like children as possible. But there are countless justifications for everything.

And they don't ask for uniforms here either. They are talking about body measurements of 140 cm and 40 kg. These are not measurements of petit women, not even of high school girls.

We covered that already, just because there are killers , and murderers we won't censor movies from showing killing, that's just stupid.

About the size of girls maybe in Netherlands is not, but in most countries those are high school girls too, plus if they are over 18 is not a big deal at all.

You just need to use common sense, nothing is black and white, even though this is pretty straight forward stuff.

[Starrio]

Also you are exaggerating again with those numbers, that's already midget territory, and if someone likes midget I don't judge, that's just their thing.

[Iddaoeeok]

I think this whole area of discussion is a lot more vague and undefined than both sides in this thread are making out. Introducing the word 'children' just completely shuts down the debate and gets people on the defensive because it implies it's about paedophilia - and, not surprisingly, people who aren't paedophiles don't appreciate the implication that they're interested in paedophilia! There's a more useful and accurate term that can be used instead of paedophilia, which is ephebophilia, and I do think this is behind some, not all, of the interest in petite or young looking women.