Scenes where the woman is subtly in pain/struggling?

[101mike101]

Okay let's consider "this one" ridden out and let's wait for the next bullshit troll for you all to go after.

If you call everybody a troll, then you won't have much of a discussion. It's a way to discourage people from saying anything.

Just because because other people's ideas and thinking is different from yours doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong and you are right.

In matters of taste and opinion, everybody is right. Because it's a matter of personal choice and taste.

[Iddaoeeok]

If you call everybody a troll, then you won't have much of a discussion. It's a way to discourage people from saying anything.

Just because because other people's ideas and thinking is different from yours doesn't necessarily mean that they are wrong and you are right.

In matters of taste and opinion, everybody is right. Because it's a matter of personal choice and taste.

If you could resist the temptation to climb in the pulpit and lecture people on their behaviour you would realize that this has got absolutely nothing to do with anyone here objecting to someone else's ideas or thinking or personal tastes or opinions. I mean, do you actually bother reading other people's posts?

For some context, in case you've haven't been on the forum too long, there's a history on this forum of trolls showing up claiming to be female and usually claiming to be interested in working in porn. What always, and I repeat always, happens is that some forum members will believe the troll, because they seem to want to believe they are interacting with a real woman, and when it's pointed out by sceptics that this is obviously a troll, they will rush to the defence of the troll until, surprise surprise, eventually the troll is uncovered. The trolls can sometimes manage to fool (some) people for quite some time, one managed to keep the story going for a good nine or ten pages and had dozens of posters believing them, but eventually they all get caught out, because they're not very smart, and that's when they disappear - though they usually come back and try again with some new bullshit story and identity.

Now, you might well have noticed the Do you want to become a porn model? APPLY HERE thread that LP have recently put at the top of the Models forum. This has partly been put there in order to discourage these sorts of trolls, because trolls are annoying assholes. And what happens as soon as it's introduced? A troll shows up, but instead of claiming to be a woman interested in working in porn - which they know they can't get away with anymore - they invent this ridiculous Molly Jacobsen character.

But don't let the truth get in the way of you trotting out platitudes designed to educate us ignoramuses.

[MollyJacobsen]

Sofia double anal video NR106

That was a good one, when she start's moving away they do the arm twist behind the back thing, and push her back down so she had to stay still. She's actually like 30.

And I'm a man, woman, whatever you want, I'm not bringing it up again.

[redwhre]

I'm not here to argue, I like a specific type of porn.

I was a past subscriber to meatholes, facial abuse, and such.

I don't know why and I'm sure there's a psychological explanation for it, but its a big turn on for me to see other women being used for pleasure and degraded by groups of men, and LegalPorno does that very well and I appreciate it! I think I'm a bit jealous of them being in their 20s and prettier than me to be completely honest.

I am a woman myself in my late 30s now, and I admire pornstars, but I enjoy scenes that are very hard on the women. I like subtle winces of pain on their faces, I love seeing tears drip a bit as well. I enjoy watching for genuine facial reactions when doing DAP or something challenging.

Please recommend some if you have it.

I remember my mother used to express some hostility towards other women, who she thought were sluts. And she expressed some satisfaction, when she heard that something bad happened to such women with guys. It was like divine punishment for these women.

I don't think my mother was sexually aroused by that. But what you say about yourself reminds me of the way my mother was in such matters. In my mother's thinking, these ladies were doing something bad, and they deserved their bad consequences.

Perhaps your feelings are like this too, except you also find some sexual enjoyment in this.

ur mother was a frigid bitch

[Eloise]

Who cut you loose out of that lock up?

[101mike101]

A troll shows up, but instead of claiming to be a woman interested in working in porn - which they know they can't get away with anymore - they invent this ridiculous Molly Jacobsen character....

Some people would say that your sexist and stereotypical view of women is kind of trolling too.

What makes you think that women can't enjoy watching porn and talking about in a forum like this? You are implying that women's only legitimate interest in a porn site like the one here is to work in it, rather than just watch and enjoy. Which is about as sexist as sexist can be. It is a kind of trolling.

According to Pornhub statistics, women are a large part of the world's porn audience. Their interest in watching porn is just as legitimate as that of men.
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[Iddaoeeok]

A troll shows up, but instead of claiming to be a woman interested in working in porn - which they know they can't get away with anymore - they invent this ridiculous Molly Jacobsen character....

Some people would say that your sexist and stereotypical view of women is kind of trolling too.

What makes you think that women can't enjoy watching porn and talking about in a forum like this? You are implying that women's only legitimate interest in a porn site like the one here is to work in it, rather than just watch and enjoy. Which is about as sexist as sexist can be. It is a kind of trolling.

According to Pornhub statistics, women are a large part of the world's porn audience. Their interest in watching porn is just as legitimate as that of men.
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LOL, what's wrong with you? The trolls who have been busted for pretending to be women were not women. Why do you think LP put this new model recruitment thread at the top of the Models forum? To stop these idiots posting their garbage elsewhere in the forum is why! Molly Jacobsen is not a woman. Molly Jacobsen has stopped even claiming to be a woman!

Anyway, it's pointless talking to you because all you've done on this thread is consistently ignore or misrepresent what people have actually said. Now either you have some sort of cognitive impairment which prevents you processing information in the form of written language or you see any and all discussion as an opportuniy for you to pontificate on whatever subject you feel like pontificating on, regardless of whether it has any bearing on the discussion at hand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

[netzerkaiser]

A troll shows up, but instead of claiming to be a woman interested in working in porn - which they know they can't get away with anymore - they invent this ridiculous Molly Jacobsen character....

Some people would say that your sexist and stereotypical view of women is kind of trolling too.

What makes you think that women can't enjoy watching porn and talking about in a forum like this? You are implying that women's only legitimate interest in a porn site like the one here is to work in it, rather than just watch and enjoy. Which is about as sexist as sexist can be. It is a kind of trolling.

According to Pornhub statistics, women are a large part of the world's porn audience. Their interest in watching porn is just as legitimate as that of men.
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LOL, what's wrong with you? The trolls who have been busted for pretending to be women were not women. Why do you think LP put this new model recruitment thread at the top of the Models forum? To stop these idiots posting their garbage elsewhere in the forum is why! Molly Jacobsen is not a woman. Molly Jacobsen has stopped even claiming to be a woman!

Anyway, it's pointless talking to you because all you've done on this thread is consistently ignore or misrepresent what people have actually said. Now either you have some sort of cognitive impairment which prevents you processing information in the form of written language or you see any and all discussion as an opportuniy for you to pontificate on whatever subject you feel like pontificating on, regardless of whether it has any bearing on the discussion at hand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

@Iddaoeeok: You need step back Brother, & consider a few things. We had run in before & I was out of line, & I acknowledged that, & you had grace to accept it, & in doing so you won my long-term respect. But Mike is right & he's only been reasonable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gjf02z7uRXk

@2:47 "we can't always be at our best".

Intellectually, you're probably right. But life is about The Soul, as well. And I think you've been wrong here. And thats said, with great respect for you.

[Iddaoeeok]

You're kind of missing the point here, he might be right about a lot of things but he's not right about anything that's actually relevant to the thread. So, saying women like porn too is completely irrelevant because no-one in this thread has argued otherwise.

[101mike101]

You're kind of missing the point here, he might be right about a lot of things but he's not right about anything that's actually relevant to the thread. So, saying women like porn too is completely irrelevant because no-one in this thread has argued otherwise.

You've basically made an accusation that somebody here is posing as a woman. And now you are treating it as a fact, without any further evidence.

This isn't a reasonable behavior in a forum like this or anywhere else in society. Because people shouldn't have to prove their innocence every time somebody decides to accuse them of something. And because this kind of behavior has a bad history in Europe, when the Inquisition, the Nazis, and the Communists were in power there.

I can say for myself that I wouldn't use my real name in a porn forum like this. Because it's available on the Internet. And because governments, institutions, and employers are known to search the Internet for things they disapprove of, when they deal with you, so that they can use this against you.

So, you really need to watch what you say and where you say it. Or else, you can easily end up in trouble for reasons not necessarily known to you. This kind of discrimination usually happens in a non-transparent way. So, you won't even know why you aren't getting anywhere in your life, and why all the doors seem to be shut to you.

[netzerkaiser]

You're kind of missing the point here, he might be right about a lot of things but he's not right about anything that's actually relevant to the thread. So, saying women like porn too is completely irrelevant because no-one in this thread has argued otherwise.

@Iddaoeeok: Thank you for your kind response. You could easily have told me that the argument wasn't my concern. Cheers.

[YumYum74]

I’ve kept away from this discussion, but one thing I do wanna point out. By discussing this ad nauseum, you’ve basically given the troll what he wanted in the first place: attention and stirring the pot.

[netzerkaiser]

I’ve kept away from this discussion, but one thing I do wanna point out. By discussing this ad nauseum, you’ve basically given the troll what he wanted in the first place: attention and stirring the pot.

@YumYum.. If anything good came of it, such as understanding between those who post, then its a good thing, long after thread has been forgotten.

[MollyJacobsen]

I’ve kept away from this discussion, but one thing I do wanna point out. By discussing this ad nauseum, you’ve basically given the troll what he wanted in the first place: attention and stirring the pot.

I actually haven't said much to really be stirring the pot.

[101mike101]

I’ve kept away from this discussion, but one thing I do wanna point out. By discussing this ad nauseum, you’ve basically given the troll what he wanted in the first place: attention and stirring the pot.

I actually haven't said much to really be stirring the pot.

Male dominated forums often have a problem with tolerating women and treating them as equals. That's why women either stay away from such forums, or they pretend to be men.

This kind of thing happens a lot in forums discussing computer games. Female players are often hounded there so much they either stop participating, or they assume a male identity and participate as if they are guys.

I haven't heard or read about this kind of thing happening in porn forums. But it's an equivalent situation, and it probably happens in porn forums too.

Because millions of women watch porn too. So, it makes sense that some of them might want to participate in porn-forums, not as porn-stars and performers, but as porn-fans, just like the guys. And this is where the guys have a problem with it. They like porn-stars and performers. But women also watching porn and enjoying it in their own way is too much for the guys. They have a emotional problem dealing with this fact. And that's what this discussion is all about.

[Eloise]

Good job you all.
Keep this bullshit going!

[Iddaoeeok]

Male dominated forums often have a problem with tolerating women and treating them as equals. That's why women either stay away from such forums, or they pretend to be men.

This kind of thing happens a lot in forums discussing computer games. Female players are often hounded there so much they either stop participating, or they assume a male identity and participate as if they are guys.

I haven't heard or read about this kind of thing happening in porn forums. But it's an equivalent situation, and it probably happens in porn forums too.

Because millions of women watch porn too. So, it makes sense that some of them might want to participate in porn-forums, not as porn-stars and performers, but as porn-fans, just like the guys. And this is where the guys have a problem with it. They like porn-stars and performers. But women also watching porn and enjoying it in their own way is too much for the guys. They have a emotional problem dealing with this fact. And that's what this discussion is all about.

No it isn't, we had a long term female poster on this forum. Laura, who was very popular with everyone and who a lot of us miss since she stopped posting, she was one of the best contributors this forum has ever had, - maybe there were less idiots on the forum in those days though? So, wrong again. You just won't give this one up, will you?

[netzerkaiser]

Good job you all.
Keep this bullshit going!

Eloise, theres a flaw here in your thinking, if I'm wrong please correct me. You seem to think there are desperate men out there, 'true believers', desperate for some female interaction on here to brighten up their pathetic lives. I doubt such types would be here in first place.. they're probably web-cam freaks etc. I couldn't care less if Molly is a woman, a troll, or a Guernsey cow - fact is the argument is plausible, & to me she comes across as a bitter twisted old woman, if she is that. & if its a troll, he can hardly have anticipated that this argument would have develoed into something philosophical - no-one here arguing or the plausibility of his / her its authenticity is hoping to get laid with Molly!!!

[netzerkaiser]

Eloise wrote:
Good job you all.
Keep this bullshit going!



Eloise, theres a flaw here in your thinking, if I'm wrong please correct me. You seem to think there are desperate men out there, 'true believers', desperate for some female interaction on here to brighten up their pathetic lives. I doubt such types would be here in first place.. they're probably web-cam freaks etc. I couldn't care less if Molly is a woman, a troll, or a Guernsey cow - fact is the argument is plausible, & to me she comes across as a bitter twisted old woman, if she is that. & if its a troll, he can hardly have anticipated that this argument would have *developed into something philosophical - no-one here arguing *for the plausibility of his / her its authenticity is hoping to get laid with Molly!!!

Fucking hell, its a crime you can't edit typos here!

[Iddaoeeok]

Good job you all.
Keep this bullshit going!

Eloise, theres a flaw here in your thinking, if I'm wrong please correct me. You seem to think there are desperate men out there, 'true believers', desperate for some female interaction on here to brighten up their pathetic lives. I doubt such types would be here in first place.. they're probably web-cam freaks etc. I couldn't care less if Molly is a woman, a troll, or a Guernsey cow - fact is the argument is plausible, & to me she comes across as a bitter twisted old woman, if she is that. & if its a troll, he can hardly have anticipated that this argument would have develoed into something philosophical - no-one here arguing or the plausibility of his / her its authenticity is hoping to get laid with Molly!!!

Believe me, he is not wrong, he's absolutely right about the 'true believers' thing!

You obviously weren't around when we had multiple instances of a 'women' showing up on the forum, posting photos of themselves (stolen from the internet), and having lots of men on this forum running after them like dogs with their tongues hanging out - even though it was obvious to a blind man they were fake. We had one troll who periodically showed up with photos of the same woman, sometimes he claimed to be the woman, at other times it was his cousin or just a friend of his. The classic one was the 'woman' who showed up, interested in porn but embarrassed about it, who over the course of a week or so, started posting pictures of herself and then saying she was interested in working in porn and managed to spin this out for 10 pages of stupid men believing this bullshit until, as usually happens, someone found a discrepancy in the photos being posted and they were busted and then ... miraculously ... disappeared! I think in that case 'she' posted a photo with a date on it that didn't tie up with the age she claimed to be. You know what, I'm almost certain she was calling herself Molly too! By the way, all instances of these kinds of threads have been deleted, as far as I'm aware.

As I say, we actually a very good female poster on the forum at one point, who was good at presenting a female perspective, in contrast, this current poster is just providing some of the guys here with exactly what they want to hear from a female poster.

[netzerkaiser]

Good job you all.
Keep this bullshit going!

Eloise, theres a flaw here in your thinking, if I'm wrong please correct me. You seem to think there are desperate men out there, 'true believers', desperate for some female interaction on here to brighten up their pathetic lives. I doubt such types would be here in first place.. they're probably web-cam freaks etc. I couldn't care less if Molly is a woman, a troll, or a Guernsey cow - fact is the argument is plausible, & to me she comes across as a bitter twisted old woman, if she is that. & if its a troll, he can hardly have anticipated that this argument would have develoed into something philosophical - no-one here arguing or the plausibility of his / her its authenticity is hoping to get laid with Molly!!!

Believe me, he is not wrong, he's absolutely right about the 'true believers' thing!

You obviously weren't around when we had multiple instances of a 'women' showing up on the forum, posting photos of themselves (stolen from the internet), and having lots of men on this forum running after them like dogs with their tongues hanging out - even though it was obvious to a blind man they were fake. We had one troll who periodically showed up with photos of the same woman, sometimes he claimed to be the woman, at other times it was his cousin or just a friend of his. The classic one was the 'woman' who showed up, interested in porn but embarrassed about it, who over the course of a week or so, started posting pictures of herself and then saying she was interested in working in porn and managed to spin this out for 10 pages of stupid men believing this bullshit until, as usually happens, someone found a discrepancy in the photos being posted and they were busted and then ... miraculously ... disappeared! I think in that case 'she' posted a photo with a date on it that didn't tie up with the age she claimed to be. You know what, I'm almost certain she was calling herself Molly too! By the way, all instances of these kinds of threads have been deleted, as far as I'm aware.

As I say, we actually a very good female poster on the forum at one point, who was good at presenting a female perspective, in contrast, this current poster is just providing some of the guys here with exactly what they want to hear from a female poster.

@Iddaoeeok: I was looking forward to your response, you old pirate! At the end of the day, we all differ, & I respect the TIME it takes to formulate response. Yep, I'll bet you saw some dumb shit on here... I mean I'm only posting a few months, some of you are veterans for a few years, & I respect that! Thanks Iddaoeeok!

[netzerkaiser]

If we can all finish up on good terms thats the main thing, & we'll mutually, Iddaoeeok, Mike, Yumyum & Eloise, adopt Molly as our Guernsey cow!

[101mike101]

No it isn't, we had a long term female poster on this forum. Laura, who was very popular with everyone and who a lot of us miss since she stopped posting, she was one of the best contributors this forum has ever had, - maybe there were less idiots on the forum in those days though? So, wrong again. You just won't give this one up, will you?

So, how do you decide if a female participant in a porn forum really is female, or if it's just a guy pretending to be a woman?

Does this person need to fit your idea of what a woman is? And what about diversity among women, where some women even feel like they are men and eventually go through a sex-change operation?

I don't think there is any way to know for sure in a forum like this if the poster is male or female. Some people, posting as guys here, might be women. And some people, posting as women here, might be guys.

I think people should be free in the way they want to be in terms of their psychological and sexual identity, without being criticized by others. Because this is their personal choice. And it's not other people's business to tell them how they should present themselves.

[netzerkaiser]

Who cut you loose out of that lock up?

Me, I jut love Eloises naming & shaming here.. jerk off buddies, WTF!!! Lighten up lads!

[Iddaoeeok]

No it isn't, we had a long term female poster on this forum. Laura, who was very popular with everyone and who a lot of us miss since she stopped posting, she was one of the best contributors this forum has ever had, - maybe there were less idiots on the forum in those days though? So, wrong again. You just won't give this one up, will you?

So, how do you decide if a female participant in a porn forum really is female, or if it's just a guy pretending to be a woman?

Does this person need to fit your idea of what a woman is? And what about diversity among women, where some women even feel like they are men and eventually go through a sex-change operation?

I don't think there is any way to know for sure in a forum like this if the poster is male or female. Some people, posting as guys here, might be women. And some people, posting as women here, might be guys.

I think people should be free in the way they want to be in terms of their psychological and sexual identity, without being criticized by others. Because this is their personal choice. And it's not other people's business to tell them how they should present themselves.

God, you are so infuriating, will you stop inventing stuff that isn't fucking happening! No-one is telling anyone else how to present themselves. No-one is fitting anyone into their own idea of what a woman is. No-one is criticizing anyone for their psychological and sexual identity. If you could concentrate on the matter at hand for once and resist your urge to turn everything into a fucking state-of-the-nation address we might get somewhere, otherwise it's pointless if all you're going to do is deliberately misrepresent people so you can lecture them on something they never even said! Jesus!

Anyway, it's called a bullshit detector and if you haven't got a functioning bullshit detector then the internet might not be the best place for you.

[101mike101]

No it isn't, we had a long term female poster on this forum. Laura, who was very popular with everyone and who a lot of us miss since she stopped posting, she was one of the best contributors this forum has ever had, - maybe there were less idiots on the forum in those days though? So, wrong again. You just won't give this one up, will you?

So, how do you decide if a female participant in a porn forum really is female, or if it's just a guy pretending to be a woman?

Does this person need to fit your idea of what a woman is? And what about diversity among women, where some women even feel like they are men and eventually go through a sex-change operation?

I don't think there is any way to know for sure in a forum like this if the poster is male or female. Some people, posting as guys here, might be women. And some people, posting as women here, might be guys.

I think people should be free in the way they want to be in terms of their psychological and sexual identity, without being criticized by others. Because this is their personal choice. And it's not other people's business to tell them how they should present themselves.

God, you are so infuriating, will you stop inventing stuff that isn't fucking happening! No-one is telling anyone else how to present themselves. No-one is fitting anyone into their own idea of what a woman is. No-one is criticizing anyone for their psychological and sexual identity. If you could concentrate on the matter at hand for once and resist your urge to turn everything into a fucking state-of-the-nation address we might get somewhere, otherwise it's pointless if all you're going to do is deliberately misrepresent people so you can lecture them on something they never even said! Jesus!

Anyway, it's called a bullshit detector and if you haven't got a functioning bullshit detector then the internet might not be the best place for you.

Your bullshit detector is your own subjective judgement. Are you saying that your judgment in this is perfect, and you never make mistakes? And if you do make a mistake, then how would you know that it's a mistake?

I'm pointing out to you, that just because you think something is true, doesn't necessarily mean that it is. And that's why you should give other people the benefit of your doubt, even when you think otherwise.

This is just recognizing that your knowledge is limited, and your judgment isn't always right, being humble about that. Or else you are presenting yourself as some perfect guy who is perfect in his subjective judgement and never makes mistakes. Which is a ridiculous way to present yourself. Because this can't be true and obviously isn't true.

[Iddaoeeok]

You will have noticed I'm not the only person casting doubt on the OP's sexuality? You know, you have to go through life exercising judgment, you can't expect to empirically prove every single thing that happens, that is an impossibility. No-one is presenting themselves as perfect, all they are doing is saying, on past experience, this looks like more bullshit. You can choose to agree with them or not, that's up to you.

[Pineapples Studio]

This thread is embarrassing.

[Iddaoeeok]

This thread is embarrassing.

I did ask the moderators to kill it off but they haven't.