Sharing pornstars between studios (question)

[dpconnoisseur1]

As usual thanks for taking the time to respond to your fans!

Did you ever consider that a model doesnt want to shoot for multiple studio? (Case of Nicole that doesnt even want to perform for other production external to LP) and somehow Nathalie Cherie.
Jolee and Barbie are planned with Gonzo, but it takes time.

Glad to know that at some point Gonzo fans will get a taste of Nathalie, Jolee and Barbie too. Yes I did consider a model not wanting to work for another studio in the case of Nicole but she does way harder scenes for you because primarily they are No pussy Anal endurance scenes. In Gonzo she would get the opportunity to get all her holes fucked and not only stressing her ass out.

no one really understand yet if to share a model is an advantage (because she gets more audience) or counterproductive (because make available a similar content that cost a small part of what would cost if released from another studio).

Never thought of that point because the 3 main studios are so vastly different in my opinion. I look at the different produced scene this way. Maybe it's wrong but this is the way I see it:
Gonzo - a great variety in scene types given you a more even production of pussy, anal, dp, da and dv.
Giorgio - more strict fetish of anal in scenes with anal segments being 85 to 95 % of the scene
IV - who know what they are doing other than a lot of tip fucking.
The reason I make these points is doesn't matter if the directors tries to shot the same model the scenes would never look the same. Which is why I want to see Florane do a Waka Waka scene and Nicole Black meet the Gonzo Monster Cock Team in scenes.
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Also, remember that sales from Gonzo are directly and immediately influenced from users that own a membership. Even is membership are a minority, the rank of the scene would be different is the membership plan would not be available.

I had this thought just today morning, and this is going to make me even less willing to shoot models that performed many successful scenes for gonzo.[/quote]
Honestly I'm not a fan of membership where you get all the scenes. It goes against all LP sold us on in 2013, basically buying only the scenes you want and every fetish and model standing on the merit of that single scene. With the membership Gonzo is guaranteed a set income and distributed the cost of truly expensive scenes by charging more for lesser cost scenes

To find good models, with the absolute disinterestedness of agency to make scouting of fresh talents, bring obviously to exploit the new model as more as possible before to share it.

Thanks for the honesty, I thought directors for LP were holding onto very successful models exclusively but noone was saying anything leaving fans begging for models that they would never see at other LP studios

[dangl]

Did you ever consider that a model doesnt want to shoot for multiple studio? (Case of Nicole that doesnt even want to perform for other production external to LP) and somehow Nathalie Cherie.

Nathalie doesn't want to shoot for Gonzo? NOOooooooo

[Giorgio Grandi]

There are countless models that are very hard to schedule or totally not interested (no matter the reason why) in performing for me. Some change their mind after some times, some doesnt. For some we get a ticket and than they do not show up at the airport or they are bullshitting some stupid excuse but clearly someone else interfered.

We move on, thats life, there is not time for get pissed or whine, it is totally pointless.

[dap-addict]

There are countless models that are very hard to schedule or totally not interested (no matter the reason why) in performing for me. Some change their mind after some times, some doesnt. For some we get a ticket and than they do not show up at the airport or they are bullshitting some stupid excuse but clearly someone else interfered.

Overall, with Gonzo having a membership plan, maybe the competition between studio will increase more and everyone will have to dig new talents even more than before...

Generally its quite visible for a fe months already competition between LP studios has accelerated a lot during last months.
It has some good effects for the users, but it has also some bad ones for those shooting this scenes obviously.
Also get the impression some male talent are hunted down by gonzo mainly. Not sure thats always a fair deal, there was that Freddy Gong case...
I just really hope its healthy competition and only that, but...!


About the new flat rate for gonzo I tested it in Jan and it was great value actually. It also left me more tickets for GIO, which benefits both studios. Just saying.
Bad is of course if users direct all their funds to a single studio flat rate only.
I hope not too many do that! That would kill other LP studios slowly I am afraid.

[kuaheyden513]

are the studios (GONZO,GG,IV) in the same building ?

Are you crazy?
In the same building?

[powerful76]

i really don´t understand why gio and IV are bringing new girls at moment but gonzo is only shooting with the same models.
please luis bring new girls to the monstercock team!!
why not use some of the gio and IV studios like sindy rose, aletta black and many others?
i love your girls but the repetition are becoming really obvious.

[Giorgio Grandi]

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We actually go along very well. I speak with the production manager of gonzo every second day and with Joakim every 3rd day.
The better we do, the better for everyone, of course there is competition, but it’s in the interest of everyone to get new members and keep who is already member, increasing quality of the content.
Competition is good, but share options makes it better.

are the studios (GONZO,GG,IV) in the same building ?

Are you crazy?
In the same building?

[kidloco2]

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...and with Joakim every 3rd day.

So please tell him to shoot more wide open gapes then ffs!

[xxx]

Nicole Black should really pay gonzo studio a visit, or we may have to kidnap her.

[dpconnoisseur1]

Do whatever you have to XXX, I think her scene would be easily a best seller performing a No Holes Barred scene with the Monster Cock Team! Instant Buy IMHO

[magizi877]

Nicole Black should really pay gonzo studio a visit, or we may have to kidnap her.

Do a 'kidnap' movie.

I mean,

a decent amount of the LP fanbase likes rough sex.

Just saying

[SimplyStunning]

This is a better area for this post than in Florane thread:

@dap-addict Positive for who that Florane Shooting with Giorgio ? I'm noticing a trend of Giorgio getting some of Gonzo best girls but Giorgio's girls are still not being shared. The only exception are the ones he doesn't want to shoot anymore or their ass is wore out. How is he shooting top Gonzo girls like Kristy Black, Lady Dee and now Florane Russel?

I mean I'm thankful to see Barbie Sins shoot with Luis. She is an incredible talent and I want to see more of her but where is Nicole Black, Natalie Cherie and other girls like Jolee Black. Why are they exclusive to Giorgio's anal only boring scenes ?

[dap-addict]

What can I say? There is a fair share of top models, some you mentioned.
Its not many models and its specially done like this, thus you better get used.
At the same time girls need enough work of course, which is given also by other Prague based studios. Some go to work in Bp also, although payment is lower there. Its their decision.

[dpconnoisseur1]

The reason I bring this up is there are currently 5 models that I want to see shoot for LP Gonzo (Luis) but instead they shoot the same basic scene for Giorgio over and over again.

• Nicole Black (25 of 25 scenes for Giorgio)
• Jolee Love (12 of 12 scenes for Giorgio)
• Natalie Cherie (18 total scenes, 10 scenes since her return to hardcore, all 10 new scenes to Giorigo)
• Avi Love (9 of 9 scenes for Giorgio)
• Barbie Sins (7 of 8 scenes for Giorigo)
• Lauren Phillips (5 of 5 scenes for Giorgio)
• Monika Wild (35 of 39 scenes for Giorgio)

Nicole Black should really pay gonzo studio a visit, or we may have to kidnap her.

@XXX, @Luis and/or @Giorgio
Since I wrote the above about 7 months ago and read what XXX wrote, I have only seen beautiful Barbie Sins do one scene for Luis. I thought it was great and want to see much more but was wondering if any progress on shooting any others from the above list especially Nicole Black was made or should I stop holding my breathe of ever seeing this happen within the next 30 days ?

[dpconnoisseur1]

Sara Bell for Gonzo please! She is becoming an Instant Buy model for me. The only purchase hesitation is the constant 0% Pussy scenes

[dpconnoisseur1]

Am I really the only one that wants to see all Sara Bell holes filled by Monster Cocks! Also if we are lucky we can see her do DP, DA, DV and TP at Gonzo.

[dpconnoisseur1]

My model sharing wish list on this thread has not gone like I have hoped but I will keep trying. Here are 5 more beauties that are exclusive to Giorgio but I wish to see them ASAP shoot with Gonzo for Luis and his Monster Cock Team in "No Holes Barred" scenes.

[SimplyStunning]

^I went back and read this thread from the start especially keying on Giorgio comments and truly believe Giorgio models sign an exclusivity contract to his studio or fear never being asked back for more Giorgio studio work if they work for Gonzo. The reason I say this is no matter the sales of the girl, teen, MILF, new or veteran on Gonzo or IV studio, Giorgio studio still shoots them unless the girl doesn't do DAP like Veronica Leal. This for some reason doesn't happen or better said rarely happens with Giorgio found girls.
Time will tell of course but I wouldn't hold my breath for Alita Angel, Sofi Smile and Nikki Hill ever appearing in Gonzo for the fear of not being offered anymore Giorgio work or an exclusivity contract they signed.

[dap-addict]

More and more girls are getting shared actually recently.

[SimplyStunning]

Like who ? Name 3 to 5 girls that are being shared recently.

[SimplyStunning]

^@dap-addict I figured that would go unanswered.

I'm trying not to hate on Giorgio fanboys but it sucks reading how happy they are with Giorgio shooting another Gonzo or Interracial Vision primarily shot girl. Gonzo has to mainly find their own girls and only get girls shared with them from Giorgio that are pissed with him like Belle Claire (still beautiful) or girls like Sara Bell (still young and beautiful) that Giorgio has worn out with all the 0% Pussy and DAP scenes that she just wants to take a break from or retire from porn.

[SimplyStunning]

Emily has now been added to girls found by Gonzo that is shooting with Giorgio but I don't think your list will ever shoot with Gonzo. If by some miracle it happens I want it to be either Sofi Smile or Alita Angel.

My model sharing wish list on this thread has not gone like I have hoped but I will keep trying. Here are 5 more beauties that are exclusive to Giorgio but I wish to see them ASAP shoot with Gonzo for Luis and his Monster Cock Team in "No Holes Barred" scenes.

[dap-addict]

^@dap-addict I figured that would go unanswered.
I'm trying not to hate on Giorgio fanboys but it sucks reading...

I thought it was too stupid to care for your bs claims, but I see you dont figure out much sadly.
So, Nicole Black obviously not because she decided she wants to coop with some directors and some not, and Luis is one of them.
Are girls free to do so? And are we compelled to take notice to the fact that some girls sell much better with one LP studio and dont sell with another?
Anyway, you asked to 3 to 5, but than I am already sure you'll pick on 'recently', just to feed your conspiracy theories or just because if was me pointing you to them. What the heck!
Alexa Flexy
Sandra Soul
Sara Bell
Polly Pons
Barbie Sins
Julia Red
Kiara Gold
Jessica Bell
Renata Fox


longer ago, and didnt sell @ gonzo:
Anna Rey
Anya Akulova
Gabrielle Lati
Eureka del Mar
Mai Thai
Monika Wild

[dap-addict]

Btw, its not girls, but do they ring a bell maybe?
Angelo Godshack
Freddy Gong
Neeo

[SimplyStunning]

@dap-addict
Conspiracy be dammed, here is what I'm talking about from Giorgio's own writing. Giorgio has no interest in sharing his quality models until he milks them dry. Although somehow he is able to shoot other studios quality models, even though he said he wouldn't above in this thread too.

To find good models, with the absolute disinterestedness of agency to make scouting of fresh talents, bring obviously to exploit the new model as more as possible before to share it.

Now of course it doesn't bother you because you get to see your favorite director shoot all girls from any of LP studios willing to shoot dap no matter how successful they are. Unfortunately that is not reciprocated to other studios.

@dap-addict you are so funny, even the list you generated proves my point. I don't care about the girls you listed from a longtime ago or the men which we aren't even talking about but just current girls. In your list only 3.5 of the 9 girls are actually discovered and brought to LP by Giorgio. The other 6.5 are either IV or Gonzo discovered that started working with Giorgio afterwards. Which you should have known with all the stupid dap statistics you claim to keep and spam us with.

What a fucking joke ? I don't even know why I bother with you. Did you not think I would verify your list ? I don't care that Giorgio shoots IV and Giorgio girls I welcome it, I just think that Giorgio girls should shoot with Gonzo and IV studio also. That is my simple point and wonder why that doesn't happen more often ? I'm shocked but glad that Kristy Black, Emily Pink, Florane Russel, Megan Venturi, Mina, Sindy Rose, Freya Dee, Zoe Sparks and Kira Axe to name a few have already shot with Giorgio. Plus the others on your list but Giorgio doesn't allow Sofi Smile, Nikki Hill, Alita Angel, Pinky Breeze and Aletta Black to shoot with Gonzo or IV.

[dap-addict]

@dap-addict
In your list only 3.5...

LOL!
Who is the half girl?

[Giorgio Grandi]

SimplyStunning
For now I will comment only this:
" Sofi Smile, Nikki Hill, Alita Angel, Pinky Breeze and Aletta Black to shoot with Gonzo or IV"

This is simply a nonsense.
Sofi Smile, Nikki Hill, Alita Angel, Pinky Breeze they belong to an Agent, I already wrote about it, that agent did not want to even give the girls to LP. In my team I have a person that takes care only of PR with agents that in the past did not want to provide to LP any girl (no matter what studio). Sofi is actually even retired or so (situation is not even clear about her). Anyone is free to contact the agent and find a deal is they wish.
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Aletta: she has been out of business for almost 1 year, and in that time we did not stop to be in constant touch with her (and her agent), she is just back 2 week ago and she went away from my studio just 2-3 days ago. She will be back to perform porn maybe, who knows...

I am really tired to read nonsense speculation about who shoot who and why, this job is done also with PR relationship, not only to take the phone and call an agent and get a model. Also, for example there are model that perform at Gonzo that I do not really want even to shoot, it can be the same also from the other side. Also a model decide by herself or with her agent with who to perform, who are you to tell who should shoot with who? No One.
It depends from the model herself. For example Nicol Black told that if the matter is to perform porn for anyone else than me, she prefer to stop shooting, in fact she works only for me and for LP.
There are other models for example I do not want to see anymore because are out of their mind and so they land on another studio, but this doesnt mean anything different that Im tired to handle someone that is basically insane, so they maybe land on gonzo or IF, who knows?

People if free to do what the fuck you want and sometimes it doesnt make sense (also to me), but this doesnt mean there is any kind of different reason than what I wrote.

Also, just 2 cents, it doesnt make sense to

[Giorgio Grandi]

SimplyStunning

i will replay to the rest later

[Giorgio Grandi]

Alexa Flexy - scouted from my russian producer
Sandra Soul - offered by her agent
Sara Bell - scouted directly
Polly Pons - scouted directly, but already in the industry
Barbie Sins - scouted directly, but already in the industry
Julia Red - offered from her agent
Kiara Gold - offered from her (ex) agent
Jessica Bell - offered from her agent
Renata Fox - offered from her agent


longer ago, and didnt sell @ gonzo:
Anna Rey - I dont remember
Anya Akulova - scouted directly, never worked before
Gabrielle Lati - scouted directly, shot few solos before
Eureka del Mar - I dont remember
Mai Thai - Scouted directly, never shot before
Monika Wild - Scouted directly, never shot before (and no one wanted to shoot her)

Kristy Black - Offered by her agent
Emily Pink - Offered by her agent
Florane Russel - We know her long before she started to shoot porn
Megan Venturi - Offered by her agent
Mina - Offered by her agent
Sindy Rose - I do not remember, but she is not working with an agent
Freya Dee - Offered by her agent
Zoe Sparks - Offered by her agent
Kira Axe - I think I contact her on [spam], I do not remember well now.

There is a huge difference between to contact a girl already in the industry and find someone that never worked before. For instance, just for you to know, my wife was in contact with Florane Russel long before she started to shoot anal content, like 9 month before her first scene released on LP. The reason why I did not shoot her first is simply because we are sometimes busy with other girls and we cant shoot really anyone available (and we can not take care to bring girls to anal/dp/dap, we dont have "time" for everyone). For example some agents offered me Velonica Leal several time, no one time I had time to shoot her as my schedule is planned about 30-40 days in advance.
Reverse case, Tina Key and Francys started with Gonzo and than they landed to me as "un-selling" performers and they started selling. This happens also the other way around (other studio sells well with model not selling with me, later example Isabel Clark, she sells better at gonzo imho).
I can make many situation regarding dumb models and dumb agents, but for what? Who cares for fuck sake?

The true is that at now 95% of model I shoot are offered from agents or they offer directly to perform for me and still we can not shoot anyone and many I do not shoot because I do not think it would sell (even many I shoot are not selling properly). The fact I do not shoot anymore myself help as I can take care to better handle agents and chose the girls with more carefully.

Overall there are many reason why a model works more or less from one studio or another, but most of the reason are simply a question of PR, conditions, agents and of course the will of the model. For example there is a well known girl that doesnt want to work for me because she cant stand a couple of white actor and I am not down to use other performer as I believe it would create a scene with potential.
So you maybe speculate she is exclusive to someone, but the true is that we did not find an agreement for technical reason, this happens sometimes to everyone I think.
Or maybe you work on a model for 2 years, you pay her a ticket from the other side of the world and some dumb idiot, that see on [spam] she is in Prague, organize a shooting for someone else in the day the model suppose to do not shoot (and relax her ass), maybe with the consequence the model is not able to perform properly my next scene. This create rust between me and the model as I am the one that fucking paid her ticket and spend endless conversations to make her accept to work in porn and this bring after the model to understand the Dumb Idiot is even more than a idiot and she came back, after one year of experience in the industry, considering that Giorgio was a better option.

Its is kindergarten sometimes to handle girl and agents, adding Social Hookers that are the worse as they do not understand a shit about porn, but this is how it is, or you get over it or you get over it otherwise you just lose time.

What i find pretty sad is people that do not know anything just speculating or even worse accusing of something they do not even have an idea about how it works.

P.S. I do not work with any social hooker, I work every time with official agents or real scouts, this is why very often I have girls that did not perform before as the scout know no one will try to snitch models on my stage. To find models cost too much nowadays and the first interest of any scout is to get rewarded on long term for each single model he/she finds.

[dap-addict]

Wow, Giorgio, thanks a lot for taking your time!
I first frankly dismissed that hater of your studio, that SiStu moaner not getting Nicole Black to his favorite gonzo studio.
But now you answered and that's a lot of insight and I do really hope it de-mystifies it all a bit and puts it on real grounds again.

[Moxoxo]

I am amused that you guys get not bored to see your fantasy girls every two weeks doing the same, with almost the same guys, in the same room, with heels or not, wet or dry. I buyed a few scenes but the replay od faces and acts are bringing me to the point that its a waste od time. I prefer to follow Girls and Support them directly. Porn is a tech game today, as a actress you do it od you lose it .

[Giorgio Grandi]

I am amused that you guys get not bored to see your fantasy girls every two weeks doing the same, with almost the same guys, in the same room, with heels or not, wet or dry. I buyed a few scenes but the replay od faces and acts are bringing me to the point that its a waste od time. I prefer to follow Girls and Support them directly. Porn is a tech game today, as a actress you do it od you lose it .

this is a very natural process for who "follow" the girl, who is more interest on the "content" (of course with the girl he likes) gets bored very fast following the content the girl produce herself.
Anyway, its a big market, I was at dinner with a model that does almost 20k/month just with a couple of websites (OF and MV), but its true she does this money because she is well known after shooting for other companies.

[dap-addict]

I dont get all the moaning about same studios and same studs.
I am almost exclusively in LP user since 5 years and I sure have my bugs, but LP still brings so much into my life I just can't care about same sofa at studio g, G or I like questions.

Giorgio, how many of the big earning girls with MV etc. owed her fame to LP basically?
Any examples?

[Giorgio Grandi]

I dont get all the moaning about same studios and same studs.
I am almost exclusively in LP user since 5 years and I sure have my bugs, but LP still brings so much into my life I just can't care about same sofa at studio g, G or I like questions.

Giorgio, how many of the big earning girls with MV etc. owed her fame to LP basically?
Any examples?

No one, but this is normal. A little % of euro porn model are up to take care of fans in different way that post some BS on [spam].

[dap-addict]

Kira Thorn does it a bit.
Its you who made her big and she earns some gifts and a bit via Tw for sure.
Doensnt she?

[YumYum74]

I must admit I don’t understand much of the drama of there not being enough of this, too much of that, and this or that girl should shoot just for them and not for the others. That’s why I try to stay out of it for the most part.
Maybe my tastes are too simple, I don’t know. I follow girls I like, and yes I do ask for them here sometimes too much. What they actually do or for which studio they do it, is of secondary nature, at least to me. As long as it isn’t something I detest (prolapse, piss), the girl will often get my support in the form of me forking over the tickets.

Just my two cents.

[Moxoxo]

LP still brings so much into my life I just can't care about same sofa at studio g, G or I like questions.

You should find some slavic women and try it with her at least we have some Insider information, thanks Giorgio.

[dap-addict]

If you'd know! Anyway, I dont see a problem dating a Czech or Russian women while still buying 1-3 LP scenes every day in order to enjoy some DAP you can't get that easily at home.
This said tremendous first hand input from Giorgio! I had hinted at some but SiStu objected and brought in that half (0,5) girl. So Grazie Molto per Giorgio again!

[SimplyStunning]

Below is specifically for @dap-addict as I want to give Giorigo the respect he deserves with my response.

This said tremendous first hand input from Giorgio! I had hinted at some but SiStu objected and brought in that half (0,5) girl. So Grazie Molto per Giorgio again!

I have no clue why you think what Giorgio said gave you the upper hand with the names of girls that you wrote he shared with other studios. From Giorgio own response his response lands closer to my statement than yours. I said 3.5 girls because I knew one of them was from his Russian friend. So whether you want to count it as 3.5 like I suggested or 4, 3.5 is a lot closer than the made up bullshit number of 9 girls. Just like I said before I don't care about the girls you listed as longer ago. I'm talking about current. So if you are not smart enough to figure it out @dap-addict here are the only girls you got correct from your fabricated list.

(+0.5) Alexa Flexy - scouted from my russian producer
(+1.0) Sara Bell - scouted directly
(+1.0) Polly Pons - scouted directly, but already in the industry
(+1.0) Barbie Sins - scouted directly, but already in the industry
3.5 Total girls and the 0.5 was given because the girl was not scouted by Giorgio

Although I must give you some credit that it was more than 3 to 5 that I challenged you to name. I still have no clue why you think you won this discussion that we are having as clearly my point holds that more girls that start out working for IV and Gonzo appear on Giorgio studio but the girls that start out with GIorgio rarely work for IV and Gonzo.

Wow, Giorgio, thanks a lot for taking your time!
I first frankly dismissed that hater of your studio, that SiStu moaner not getting Nicole Black to his favorite gonzo studio.
But now you answered and that's a lot of insight and I do really hope it de-mystifies it all a bit and puts it on real grounds again.

I don't hate Giorgio or his studio but I do hate his obsession of creating coloring by the number boring 0% Pussy scenes. I gladly buy his scenes that are NHB or include substantial DP content. So please don't characterize me as a hater if you don't want me to characterize you as ass kissing idiot @dap-addict. You don't know me as I don't know you but this is what I think about you

[dap-addict]

Oh, gosh, you are so predictable, SiStu!

Are girls free to do so? And are we compelled to take notice to the fact that some girls sell much better with one LP studio and dont sell with another?
Anyway, you asked to 3 to 5, but than I am already sure you'll pick on 'recently', just to feed your conspiracy theories or just because if was me pointing you to them. What the heck!

And the rest: We have different fetishes for our porn obviously and its not the first time we clash. Problem is while I am really trying to be flexible, support fetish catering of all kinds and get tolerant myself be it with NHB obsessed Luis/gonzo, you seem unable to understand why I still do side most with the studio catering for my own user needs, i.e. 0% pussy DAPs.
And its nothing of your added cartoon and if you read my posts carefully you see I call out GIO for bugs like that cage, detached Aleksey filming style or missing compassion with girls etc.
You in turn seem to have only 1 compassion: Your own egoist hate towards those who dont agree with you!