Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[Eloise]

How's your mother?

You had to ask didn't you?!!

I had to.
A while ago OP went off here about his mother being locked up in a mental health institution there's a long history of his and his mother going back to his childhood where he was in his diapers for days without a clean one.

[dap-addict]

This is OP!
1 post all in all, 5y ago:

There are many rumors also in this forum if Pierre Woodman is a kind of psychopath, sadist or something like this.
I never thaught that it would be true because as everybody knows in the industry a lot of people blame each other.

But now he changed my mind. He convinced me with his own quotes:
He was on a TV show called "Durch die Nacht" some years ago and talks very open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjH3Ij6frU
The scene starts at 29:40

It's really crazy. He tells directly to the camera himself that he is a bastard, breaks the will of girls to get them doing things they don't want and that he even continues if they cry.

BTW:
I have no doubt that he is very nice to professionals - like every psychopath. They only abuse their power on weak persons.

[dap-addict]

Btw, 14y ago!
Watch also the end! LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjH3Ij6frU

[scarletxxx666]

This is OP!
1 post all in all, 5y ago:

There are many rumors also in this forum if Pierre Woodman is a kind of psychopath, sadist or something like this.
I never thaught that it would be true because as everybody knows in the industry a lot of people blame each other.

But now he changed my mind. He convinced me with his own quotes:
He was on a TV show called "Durch die Nacht" some years ago and talks very open.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjH3Ij6frU
The scene starts at 29:40

It's really crazy. He tells directly to the camera himself that he is a bastard, breaks the will of girls to get them doing things they don't want and that he even continues if they cry.

BTW:
I have no doubt that he is very nice to professionals - like every psychopath. They only abuse their power on weak persons.

why being a sadist is bad????

well is bad i guess but is high

[Panorama]

How's your mother?

You had to ask didn't you?!!

I had to.
A while ago OP went off here about his mother being locked up in a mental health institution there's a long history of his and his mother going back to his childhood where he was in his diapers for days without a clean one.

Ah right, I thought you were joking, sorry Eloise!

I've just watched the "Into the night" interview with Woodman and I got the feeling that Brian didn't really like how the guy went about snaring women either. But I loved the part where Pierre claimed "golden showers, I don't do those kind of things" but apparently that's how the industry is going. Next, he'll be saying he doesn't like anal scenes when all he does all day is zoom his camera in on lasses butt holes!

....And I did manage to get my message to Ricardo. But I didn't get the courtesy of an answer! Seems to be a trait of people in the industry from Eastern Europe. Although I did have really good communication with one particular famous model from Czech (who I wish I could name) She was an absolute star and even sent me her autograph!

[lightman41]

Btw, 14y ago!
Watch also the end! LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjH3Ij6frU

That is more confusing than an hour of Beavis and Butt-Head. However, just as meaningful!

[BlueShadow]

She refused to see Woodman? She is crazy??
Still not bashing her on his propaganda forum talking trash about her?

This is what I calls a smart girl, she has already done anal with real and better productions and not with a hairy man in a hotel room between dinners giving her an image of an escort more than a pornstar.
Let's see if Brillbabes will insist with her to satisfy their best client...

''Better focus on other ones more relax in their heads''??
Maybe he meant better to focus on the other ones more naive.


PS
Strange she has 6k followers without that ''interview''?! Unbelievable.

[robin_reid]

It’s important to clarify and that the entire world know, to avoid misunderstandings, that Virgin Lovely works only for him because that’s her wish, and of course, that daddy Pierre paid her teeth.

[BlueShadow]

Bwhahah jeesh... it's exlusive to me because it's me who has paid her teeth
We already know that he always does thing expecting something in return
(We had already said it https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=27761&p=381143#p381104)
, nothing is for free, he will use this weapon also as future blackmail making her feel like she owes him something. For ever XD

Come on there is a reason why I don't follow ADT, his forum is enough to get a few laughs.

[BlueShadow]

Even more worrying that a girl really fall for that. But likely her family/economic situation is not the best and she is from a provincial town.

[BlueShadow]

Mmh, nope. Honestly I don't give a fuck, I just wonder what she does for a living, since she only works for one production, certainly not a successful ''adult model''...
but at least she has new teeth.

[aparatas23]

funny old man

[BlueShadow]

Bwahahah , I mean...read... (started porn with me 2, 10, 20, years ago) Why does he always have the need to say it, what's the point? Are there any psychiatrists in this room?

[robin_reid]

Mmh, nope. Honestly I don't give a fuck, I just wonder what she does for a living, since she only works for one production, certainly not a successful ''adult model''...
but at least she has new teeth.

That’s common in narcissistic people to believe that they are envied for everybody.

I remind to him that for now is him who try to block models for us and who talks bad about AV studios, producers and owner everytime he meets a model and not we about him, and not only this, he is shooting many model from BB or SM that did shoot with us before and even were recruited by us, today for example Anna Khara. So, narcissictic psicopath, shut up your dirty mouth, we are far than be jelous of you and it’s you who should be more than grateful with us.

[aparatas23]

in 2000 i wach woodman after silly dp fuck it

[BlueShadow]

It's only them blah bla blah...

Today:



Maybe he will mean that he is not referring to LP/AV (the only mainstream scenes of that girl are here, so unlikely... if not impossible XD )
But who knows, he's paranoid after all, who knows how many non-existent enemies he sees in the industry just to feel important. XD
Lets see how many other anal and DP scene Anna Khara she will do now in Budapest...since he says that those one that ''convince girl not come to work'' are assholes...


PS
He says: ''the dark side studio try convince girl not come to work for me''

But if in fact he is the one who always said that he is not interested in the girls who worked for GG, Gonzo etc.. (LP/AV). What a psycho...




When one day PW will say something coherent please, let me know.

[robin_reid]

What an ass. This is just what he does with us everytime he meets a new model, telling them to not go to work with us and vomiting all his propaganda.

Take in mind that this model Anna Khara came to him directly from Prague studios, and even she coincided with me on the apartment for almost 2 weeks, and I (or whoever) if we wanted could have “try to convince her to not come to work for him”, but we don’t lower at such poor level like he is by speaking gossips and bad mouth to the new girls as he does everytime.

[BlueShadow]

https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=33863&p=508499#p508499

[BlueShadow]

And after he throw shit on EmpaticModel one year ago... now they collaborate with him again, oh, the power of the money and greedy agencies


https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=26908&p=367523#p367523




1 year after:

I wonder if EM will now listen to his blackmail ehm... 'advice' not to send girls to do anal in the studios in Prague.

[BlueShadow]

Poor girl. After what happened last year still pushed by the agency to go there for money...
https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=13567&start=600#p350726



PS
''I'm working on it.'' The best agent in the world , oh wait, he is a producer...both? Oh yes, just an egomaniac. Right.

I knew it didn't end well, again, why does Brillbabes send these girls with clear problems to a psychopath just to satisfy his sexual needs? XD
Well, at least I hope he paid her well for the escort service, since there will be no scene to see for members (again, sorry, no fun for you) and she will never be a successful adult model.
What was like? ''I'm working on it" ??
Poor girl.



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I'm not even talking about Olivia Sparkle, who is following through on his propaganda plan against Julmodel and Dan Leal.Next target Rocco?
(''on Pierrè forum'' as if everyone knew who he was talking about. )
Who knows what the girl thinks she will achieve, ok, his money but sooner or later he will get tired of her too. Or maybe her will get tired of swallowing piss and cheat on her poor BF.

[BlueShadow]

well, actually I want to talk about it, why not, we are in a discussion forum XD








Just a question here: ''she got this message''..ok...

I wonder why a Czech girl has to have the Whatsapp layout in French (transféré)... If someone can explain it to me, I am ignorant on the matter...
or do the messages that get to her also get to PW, does he check them? Or maybe he wrote it for the propaganda? So many options here XD
But the one who loses is the model in the end for his manias against competitors.

Of course ''she will be at Brillbabes agency and able to be treated as a sweet girl like her deserves ...'' and he can better control the work she do

[Panorama]

Poor girl. After what happened last year still pushed by the agency to go there for money...
https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=13567&start=600#p350726



PS
''I'm working on it.'' The best agent in the world , oh wait, he is a producer...both? Oh yes, just an egomaniac. Right.

I knew it didn't end well, again, why does Brillbabes send these girls with clear problems to a psychopath just to satisfy his sexual needs? XD
Well, at least I hope he paid her well for the escort service, since there will be no scene to see for members (again, sorry, no fun for you) and she will never be a successful adult model.
What was like? ''I'm working on it" ??
Poor girl.



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I'm not even talking about Olivia Sparkle, who is following through on his propaganda plan against Julmodel and Dan Leal.Next target Rocco?
(''on Pierrè forum'' as if everyone knew who he was talking about. )
Who knows what the girl thinks she will achieve, ok, his money but sooner or later he will get tired of her too. Or maybe her will get tired of swallowing piss and cheat on her poor BF.

I mean the fact that both he and his flock can comment on how young and small some of these girls are. He was enthusing about Virginy Lovely a while back, in the same way, calling them babies and how they need to be treated so carefully. The very fact these girls actually look VERY illegal even when they aren't, says you're one incredibly creepy character. Especially when all you want to see is them getting their arses battered. That some really, really sick shit right there. That's not just Woodman, that's all you loyal fans, you know what I mean.
I was also reading about how he wants to retire in 2023 but he won't if he gets 10,000 subscribers..... Let's face it, Pierre, we all know that's NOT going to happen. The inner narcissist inside just wouldn't let that happen, it simply couldn't happen. How would you survive if you weren't there on centre stage shining like a star for all your loyal followers? Not to mention, the whole industry would simply collapse if you weren't there to give it your expert and unrivalled experteese. Think of all those up and coming models who don't like being screwed in the ass who are going to miss out on your "special technique" that magically makes them love it! So please, don't use the dwindling members excuse for your departure it simply won't happen, we know it, and more importantly, you know it.

[BlueShadow]

Where is the original message that the agency sent her?
For me the chatter of those who one day say one thing and tomorrow another, and create gossip only to his advantage are not worth anything.

Happy him that has the need to necessarily bash people he hates on his propaganda forum, then he talks about ''instigating hate''. I laugh out loud.



'What advantage do liars have? That when they tell the truth they are not believed'.

[BlueShadow]

I mean the fact that both he and his flock can comment on how young and small some of these girls are. He was enthusing about Virginy Lovely a while back, in the same way, calling them babies and how they need to be treated so carefully. The very fact these girls actually look VERY illegal even when they aren't, says you're one incredibly creepy character. Especially when all you want to see is them getting their arses battered. That some really, really sick shit right there. That's not just Woodman, that's all you loyal fans, you know what I mean.
I was also reading about how he wants to retire in 2023 but he won't if he gets 10,000 subscribers..... Let's face it, Pierre, we all know that's NOT going to happen. The inner narcissist inside just wouldn't let that happen, it simply couldn't happen. How would you survive if you weren't there on centre stage shining like a star for all your loyal followers? Not to mention, the whole industry would simply collapse if you weren't there to give it your expert and unrivalled experteese. Think of all those up and coming models who don't like being screwed in the ass who are going to miss out on your "special technique" that magically makes them love it! So please, don't use the dwindling members excuse for your departure it simply won't happen, we know it, and more importantly, you know it.

The inner narcissist inside?
It is not ''inner'' is clearly visible to all. XD
the one and the only one.

[robin_reid]

I'm not gonna defend Pornodan if what I've read is true, that's very unprofessional. In the past I was bringing models almost every day and I was getting worried if I or my assistant delayed just 5 single minutes into pick up a model, I can't imagine something like this... But why he trows shit on JM and why he tries to redirect the model to BB? Is he part of this agency or what?? Here the agency JM has nothing to see and it's not their fault if a producer fall aslep or do something wrong. So, if I book a model thru whatever agency and I fall aslep the day I have to pick up the model, is it the agency's fault too?

[BlueShadow]

I'm not gonna defend Pornodan if what I've read is true, that's very unprofessional. In the past I was bringing models almost every day and I was getting worried if I or my assistant delayed just 5 single minutes into pick up a model, I can't imagine something like this... But why he trows shit on JM and why he tries to redirect the model to BB? Is he part of this agency or what?? Here the agency JM has nothing to see and it's not their fault if a producer fall aslep or do something wrong. So, if I book a model thru whatever agency and I fall aslep the day I have to pick up the model, is it the agency's fault too?

Of course IF is true (but unfortunately I find it hard to believe someone who does nothing but manipulate things) it is not a professional thing, but the main question is why do he have to say it on a public forum? Propaganda, that's all. He never misses an opportunity to bash competitors and create hate. He is the first one to do it, like narcissistic accusing others of what they do too. XD

And also what he said at the end quoting Brillbabes means everything. He knows he's in a league of his own with them when it comes to controlling the girls.
Probably this agency will be julmodels or nikkismodel or some other agency that doesn't send him girls, that's why he talks bad about it, if it was Brillbabes behind it he would never say such a thing on his forum, rest assured... the champion of justice Bwahahah

[Chubakka]

I wonder why a Czech girl has to have the Whatsapp layout in French (transféré)... If someone can explain it to me, I am ignorant on the matter...
or do the messages that get to her also get to PW, does he check them? Or maybe he wrote it for the propaganda? So many options here XD
But the one who loses is the model in the end for his manias against competitors.

Of course ''she will be at Brillbabes agency and able to be treated as a sweet girl like her deserves ...'' and he can better control the work she do

The model was organized by Sandysmodels to work for Pornodan.But happened that PW was in touch directly with the model and he wanted to keep her, and use the situation She came to Budapest when he is back the next day. Pornodan find out Pierre is involved, and changed his mind, let Pierre take care of this girl.This is understandable, many people don't want to work with girls are in connection with him.
That message was sent by Silvia the owner of Sandysmodels and the model redirected it to Pierre.This show clear that She was under the control of Pierre.
And will be under total control when will move to Brillbabes.
It's clear that Brillbabes is Pierre's agency, it's only keept in secret to avoid the loss because of his bad image

[Therapya]

I wonder why a Czech girl has to have the Whatsapp layout in French (transféré)... If someone can explain it to me, I am ignorant on the matter...
or do the messages that get to her also get to PW, does he check them? Or maybe he wrote it for the propaganda? So many options here XD
But the one who loses is the model in the end for his manias against competitors.

Of course ''she will be at Brillbabes agency and able to be treated as a sweet girl like her deserves ...'' and he can better control the work she do

The model was organized by Sandysmodels to work for Pornodan.But happened that PW was in touch directly with the model and he wanted to keep her, and use the situation She came to Budapest when he is back the next day. Pornodan find out Pierre is involved, and changed his mind, let Pierre take care of this girl.This is understandable, many people don't want to work with girls are in connection with him.
That message was sent by Silvia the owner of Sandysmodels and the model redirected it to Pierre.This show clear that She was under the control of Pierre.
And will be under total control when will move to Brillbabes.
It's clear that Brillbabes is Pierre's agency, it's only keept in secret to avoid the loss because of his bad image

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Good to know when I`m next time going to Budapest and wish to have a great lunch with 2-3 nice girls, I just invite them at that Cafe Vian, and tell them we`re waiting for Pierre Woodman. Eat caviar and drink champagne, have fun, and let him pay it

[BlueShadow]

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Exactly dear Apollo13
But why did you only extrapolate that one sentence? Do you want to manipulate things so that they take on a different meaning? You learn well from your ''master''
You missed that I gave several options (because you never know how it might manipulate things)

If someone can explain it to me, I am ignorant on the matter...
...or do the messages that get to her also get to PW, does he check them? Or maybe he wrote it for the propaganda? So many options here XD

It's a screen of the phone of PW with the message sent from who? From his assistant Gabriella? From the image of the audio it seems so) what is he trying to prove?
He says: ''At 2 pm ( 14h00 ) she was still alone and waiting ... when she got this message :''

she (the model) got this message...on PW phone... ok.
As I said before. Where is the original message that came to the model from the agency?
Why he show a screen of HIS phone if the problem is between the model and the agency? XD I'm stupid, so explain me.

[BlueShadow]

Dear Apollo13, no need to explain. Chubakka here has already explained very well. Now put that screen there as well, please

[Chubakka]

Woodman it is known for his castings which sometimes take 10-12 hours. Models arrive to do an easy porn scene, get their money and leave back home. Than they have to sit in a hotel lobby for several hours until meet him, and listen his bullshit for other several hours,while he convince them to do more than wwhy they went there. How many times he was bragging about, how long took to him convince models do his job ? Sometime 10-12 hours.
When it's about Pornodan, it's unacceptable, when about him it's normal to sit at a restaurant table, eat, or drink while waiting for him.

[Panorama]

Woodman it is known for his castings which sometimes take 10-12 hours. Models arrive to do an easy porn scene, get their money and leave back home. Than they have to sit in a hotel lobby for several hours until meet him, and listen his bullshit for other several hours,while he convince them to do more than wwhy they went there. How many times he was bragging about, how long took to him convince models do his job ? Sometime 10-12 hours.
When it's about Pornodan, it's unacceptable, when about him it's normal to sit at a restaurant table, eat, or drink while waiting for him.

I know of one model that was in the Panorama with Woodman for 16 hours! He'll keep the ones who live a train/plane ride away waiting until they miss the last one so that he can appear like the caring employer by putting them up for the night, buying them dinner etc. Course when he comes knocking in the morning (wanting footage for WUNF probably) they're made to feel like they owe him. Don't get me wrong, as far as I'm concerned the girls have a choice and can leave whenever they like. But he'd never get away with those tactics in the west. Funny how Pierre knows this guy is talking about him though without even mentioning his name. He knows we've all got him sussed, even his deluded followers know it, but as long as there are girls desperate and stupid enough to go to him nothings going to change.

[DPraved]

I just happened across this post https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/pierre-woodman-castings/reply/3698065 and thought it might belong here.
Luckily there were some actually sane individuals there to point out that at that point there were already 10 scenes released with Baby Bamby, including with TP.

[Pierrethebig]

Years ago he was celebrating Juliana Grandi's birthday. Now he's jealous Dan Leal was there and he not
He still doesn't understand why people just run away from him, more he is aggressive, and like a child he would play the streetfighter when people just ignore him.
https://www.woodmanforum.com/girls/oliv ... 0-150.html

Yes, obviously everybody shit in it's pants when see him.Ridiculous

[BlueShadow]

I just happened across this post https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/pierre-woodman-castings/reply/3698065 and thought it might belong here.
Luckily there were some actually sane individuals there to point out that at that point there were already 10 scenes released with Baby Bamby, including with TP.

The answer was even funnier. "Stop doing 'promo' to LP, I'm calling moderation," like kids in kindergarten.

You can't do promos but he can denigrate LP. Seems legit.

[Chubakka]

Unfortunate for her,fortunate for him.

I don't want see his hairy ass or his hairy belly covering the girl.
But ok, some people like to watch him...

[Pierrethebig]

Well, guys if you wanna know what happened?
I' m telling you.
Pornodan was helding the JM party,and we've meet a beautiful girl, he could fuck first and in the ass as well
He was thinking, PW will take care of Olivia, as he got news,she's under his control. So, he just let PW do the charity part of a model was not too "professional"....
And he fucked a fresh new,exclusive girl before to meet Woodman.
He will release the scene in 2033, this is what he told me

[BlueShadow]

as if that were a good thing XD
The point is: was agreed BEFORE the ''scene'' the piss part? Like in all professional production? If yes, there are proof of that....otherwise is exploitation, and he use the camera like a weapon for pschycological pressure.


the fact that she doesn't ''run away from the bed'' doesn't mean anything, it doesn't always mean consent...there is also psychological violence, not all of them react in the same way in front of that, ever heard of not moving from fear?
If only I want I can show dozens of videos where the models say no (very difficult to deny that) before swallowing the piss but they do it after being instigated.
There is also a video (Laura Brook) where he himself says: 'it's not what you think', CONFIRMING that the girl didn't know what he was going to do for real. I hope it was all STAGED...

He's just lucky that what's shown on that site doesn't get much publicity in the right places.
Other luck, thanks to Brilldogs, is that he uses inexperienced girls who sign papers without knowing....



No, I think he's the one who takes the opportunity to play between exploitation and consent.


The truth is, those members of that site know full well what they will see and what they want to see...exploitation of girls, and then they talk about LP/AV. Look at your own home first.

[BlueShadow]

Apart from the fact that if she was at the JM party, they will never send her to PW, she is in good hands, only if she works with Brilldogs, who we all know the first thing they do is send her to his hotel room, they are good doggies.

[BlueShadow]

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Oh... now I know why Viola Bailey trusted the bullshit and fairytales of PW.