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Postby dap-addict » Sat May 16, 2020 6:35 am

+ 25% I bet.
Again would have been nice if we got informed about such a price hike a few days before it happened. :mad:
Or is it just a 1 time thing, just a 1-day hike? :confused:
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Postby number1s » Sat May 16, 2020 12:05 pm

xxx wrote:I think making a price adjustment is a great idea. We should triple the prices for our regular studio scenes. That would be more appropriate.

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Postby Jocke » Sat May 16, 2020 6:36 pm

xxx wrote:Buying a scene with an alternate version and not being able to upgrade for the price difference : I have asked the devs quite a while back to allow that. It will be possible, eventually.


So this just happened to me. I was too excited and didn't first check which version i bought. I have posted on the Support page, but nothing is happening!
It cannot be that difficult to either give the right version for the 1 TKT difference or just reverse the purchase and I'll buy the right scene. It's not like I wouldn't after having bought almost every wet scene you have produced.

Sure I'll eventually pay the full price again, but it isn't right. There should be a warning sign blinking and a question asked "Are you sure you want to buy the dry version?" before confirming. lol!
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Postby Hugosarang » Sat May 16, 2020 6:58 pm

I think you shall have a milf section. Just like milfthing.
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Postby IndyPleco » Sat May 16, 2020 7:23 pm

Can we get a studio filter on individual model's pages just like on the Models page?

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Postby grey00owl » Sat May 16, 2020 8:10 pm

Jocke wrote:
xxx wrote:Buying a scene with an alternate version and not being able to upgrade for the price difference : I have asked the devs quite a while back to allow that. It will be possible, eventually.


So this just happened to me. I was too excited and didn't first check which version i bought. I have posted on the Support page, but nothing is happening!
It cannot be that difficult to either give the right version for the 1 TKT difference or just reverse the purchase and I'll buy the right scene. It's not like I wouldn't after having bought almost every wet scene you have produced.

Sure I'll eventually pay the full price again, but it isn't right. There should be a warning sign blinking and a question asked "Are you sure you want to buy the dry version?" before confirming. lol!

Useful idea. I made twice the same mistake.

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Postby ExtremePornFan » Sat May 16, 2020 8:54 pm

Jocke wrote:
xxx wrote:Buying a scene with an alternate version and not being able to upgrade for the price difference : I have asked the devs quite a while back to allow that. It will be possible, eventually.


So this just happened to me. I was too excited and didn't first check which version i bought. I have posted on the Support page, but nothing is happening!
It cannot be that difficult to either give the right version for the 1 TKT difference or just reverse the purchase and I'll buy the right scene. It's not like I wouldn't after having bought almost every wet scene you have produced.

Sure I'll eventually pay the full price again, but it isn't right. There should be a warning sign blinking and a question asked "Are you sure you want to buy the dry version?" before confirming. lol!


I did the same thing. I posted in your thread about it too. I know I have done it before and just paid full price on the wet. XXX said they are planing an upgrade so you can maybe it is coming soon. I though there was, just recently text added on the dry scenes that said "there is an alternate version of this scene available" but it's not there anymore.

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Re: Consolidated critics thread

Postby error01x » Sun May 17, 2020 2:43 am

number1s wrote:
xxx wrote:I think making a price adjustment is a great idea. We should triple the prices for our regular studio scenes. That would be more appropriate.


Yeah for sure, why not making the price 20 times higher. More money for my pocket “ironie off”
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Postby error01x » Sun May 17, 2020 2:46 am

Making psychological tests with scenes from other studios with 8.5 tkts price to see if customers will buy. After that making own scenes to 6.8 tkts from 4tkts before
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Postby misangrenegra2 » Sun May 17, 2020 3:40 am

Jocke wrote:Sure I'll eventually pay the full price again, but it isn't right. There should be a warning sign blinking and a question asked "Are you sure you want to buy the dry version?" before confirming. lol!



This would be fantastic, including the fact of add the upgrading option of dry scene to wet scene with the real difference price between both scenes.

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Postby wasp » Sun May 17, 2020 6:15 am

UI suggestions



1)Having too many videos on the front page can be confusing to buyers. Paradox of choice.

2) have a visible marker/separator for scenes from different days, so that a customer can distinguish between scene from two different days easily.

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Postby Jocke » Sun May 17, 2020 11:59 pm

+1
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Postby CanadianCouple » Mon May 18, 2020 8:58 pm

wasp wrote:UI suggestions


2) have a visible marker/separator for scenes from different days, so that a customer can distinguish between scene from two different days easily.


I support this. With all the additions of archive scenes and this OTS stuff now, I have missed a scene that I want sometimes as I don't look back far enough. Day seperators would be nice.

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Postby stewpidaz937 » Tue May 19, 2020 12:19 am

Every day of releases is such a let down recently. Like I understand in the midst of a pandemic there won’t be as much access and availability for shooting but I thought that’s what they were holding out on old unreleased videos for. Plus it’s not like there is a shortage of videos being released. It’s like they think that if they release twice as many videos a day no one will notice that the quality has taken a nosedive (with a few exceptions)

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Postby xxx » Tue May 19, 2020 12:24 am

stewpidaz937 wrote:Every day of releases is such a let down recently. Like I understand in the midst of a pandemic there won’t be as much access and availability for shooting but I thought that’s what they were holding out on old unreleased videos for. Plus it’s not like there is a shortage of videos being released. It’s like they think that if they release twice as many videos a day no one will notice that the quality has taken a nosedive (with a few exceptions)

The last time we had a large stock of unreleased scenes was 2018. So we do what we can under the circumstances.

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Postby Pineapples Studio » Tue May 19, 2020 12:27 am

dap-addict wrote:edit: The just above post of mine was answering e-p ofc.

ayrtight wrote:
maurice070 wrote:@XXX I would like to see scenes in the style of Jean Yves Le Castel movies like: "Ass wide open", "Matador", "Debauchery".

Important things from his movies are interaction between actor and actress, fun, ass worship etc.


Legendary .

I have bought some of these DVDs back in time .

Back then I had hunted down all JYL dvds, also his German, Italian and even Spanish ones.
Those were good nostalgic gape-friendly times! :D
I'd love every LP director study JYL work and copy some of his ideas, also that light mood and the chemistry director had with girls! :)

I'm going to shamelessly plug my own idea for a Kuckmal Wars scene between two models: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=25920&p=331583#p331583

Would anyone else want to see this concept on LP? It's important if you do it that the cameraman studies JYL's videos to understand his camerawork, the combination of close-ups and long shots and the dynamic movement of the lens.

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Postby grey00owl » Tue May 19, 2020 10:24 am

Mister Ananas wrote:I'm going to shamelessly plug my own idea for a Kuckmal Wars scene between two models: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=25920&p=331583#p331583

Would anyone else want to see this concept on LP? It's important if you do it that the cameraman studies JYL's videos to understand his camerawork, the combination of close-ups and long shots and the dynamic movement of the lens.

You have my full support.

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Postby grey00owl » Tue May 19, 2020 10:29 am

xxx wrote:
stewpidaz937 wrote:Every day of releases is such a let down recently. Like I understand in the midst of a pandemic there won’t be as much access and availability for shooting but I thought that’s what they were holding out on old unreleased videos for. Plus it’s not like there is a shortage of videos being released. It’s like they think that if they release twice as many videos a day no one will notice that the quality has taken a nosedive (with a few exceptions)

The last time we had a large stock of unreleased scenes was 2018. So we do what we can under the circumstances.

It's an appreciable effort. We have in the last times so many lovely newcomers at Gio's Lab from Russia and some very welcome comebacks, even outstanding scenes. Thanks!

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Postby maurice070 » Tue May 19, 2020 4:32 pm

What's up with all the "new" scenes that are old stuff shot by other companies. Is that just a temporary covid-19 thing, or is this the future of LP?

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maurice070 wrote:What's up with all the "new" scenes that are old stuff shot by other companies. Is that just a temporary covid-19 thing, or is this the future of LP?

There never was a "LP company" shooting everything in the first place. It was a variety of studios and companies from the beginning.

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Postby maurice070 » Tue May 19, 2020 10:53 pm

I know that, but now it's old stuff from Private, DDF etc. That's totally different from the well known LP style like GG, Gonzo, Sineplex if you know what I mean.

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Postby maurice070 » Tue May 19, 2020 10:54 pm

I know that, but now it's old stuff from Private, DDF etc. That's totally different from the well known LP style like GG, Gonzo, Sineplex if you know what I mean.

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Postby magizi877 » Tue May 19, 2020 11:12 pm

xxx wrote:There never was a "LP company"


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maurice070 wrote:I know that, but now it's old stuff from Private, DDF etc. That's totally different from the well known LP style like GG, Gonzo, Sineplex if you know what I mean.

Old stuff? You are getting their brand new scenes every day.

Giorgio is still here. So is Gonzo. You didn't lose anything (except Sineplex, sadly), and you have more choices now.

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Postby bootyful » Wed May 20, 2020 10:13 am

What I don´t like is that you now get so many low quality but very expensive amateur style clips that you can get on any tube site for free. And among all those "trash" clips you have this one professional scene from the established studios. But you can miss it easily, especially when not checking every day.
There should be a different way of showing new clips. It´s a mess right now, and LP is doing no one a favour.

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Postby abcad90210 » Wed May 20, 2020 11:29 am

error01 wrote:4 TKTs for a Gio Lab scene and 6.8 TKT for a Kate Rich DAP why? Price is getting higher and higher, wtf?


Exactly. Also been trying to post a long reply for days says site maintenance but this is obviously not true. Can you at least be honest with your patrons?

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Postby Gmoney18 » Wed May 20, 2020 4:39 pm

Thanks for making this thread, it is appreciated - even though (as some have pointed out), it's becoming a "MAKE THE EXACT CONTENT I WANT!!" Thread.

I brought this up in the support forum awhile ago, but is there plans to introduce paypal support? I would greatly appreciate it.

I don't have a credit card, due to issues I have with the credit industry as a whole & how it's become parasitic for many regular folk over the last few decades (debt:income ratios, focus on profit rather than creditor insurance, etc) - I simply will not sink my money into a real credit card.

BUT

I really like the content LP has/does offer and like to support that, so I'll periodically buy credit "gift cards" to buy tickets. But paypal would be so, so much more convenient than this

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Postby xxx » Wed May 20, 2020 7:28 pm

Gmoney18 wrote:Thanks for making this thread, it is appreciated - even though (as some have pointed out), it's becoming a "MAKE THE EXACT CONTENT I WANT!!" Thread.

I brought this up in the support forum awhile ago, but is there plans to introduce paypal support? I would greatly appreciate it.

I don't have a credit card, due to issues I have with the credit industry as a whole & how it's become parasitic for many regular folk over the last few decades (debt:income ratios, focus on profit rather than creditor insurance, etc) - I simply will not sink my money into a real credit card.

BUT

I really like the content LP has/does offer and like to support that, so I'll periodically buy credit "gift cards" to buy tickets. But paypal would be so, so much more convenient than this

Paypal is coming. But don't imagine they are better than CC companies. They take a HUGE cut from adult companies. Much more than CC companies.

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Postby davebowman » Wed May 20, 2020 10:40 pm

error01 wrote:Making psychological tests with scenes from other studios with 8.5 tkts price to see if customers will buy.

Almost exactly the price of the new Gonzo scene with Angel Wicky and Sofia Lee, I noticed.

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Postby error01x » Fri May 22, 2020 12:41 am

All day getting higher TKT prices. The question is: Is it temporary or from now on forever? 5.6 TKTs Gio for 2on1 before was 3.8 TKT. Gonzo now 8.5 TKTs before was 5 TKT
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error01 wrote:All day getting higher TKT prices. The question is: Is it temporary or from now on forever? 5.6 TKTs Gio for 2on1 before was 3.8 TKT. Gonzo now 8.5 TKTs before was 5 TKT


I'd say this is intentional, and we just have to get used to it. No product, whatever it is, always stays at the same price. ;)

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Postby xxx » Fri May 22, 2020 12:50 am

error01 wrote:All day getting higher TKT prices. The question is: Is it temporary or from now on forever? 5.6 TKTs Gio for 2on1 before was 3.8 TKT. Gonzo now 8.5 TKTs before was 5 TKT

I want to restructure the whole thing. There is too much of a difference between people paying full $$$ price and others with membership tickets + discounts. It can go from 1 to triple the price. And the ticket value is counter intuitive in a bad way. I have been wanting to get rid of tickets altogether for a long time but I also want to keep the memberships.

With that said, the prices for our main studio scenes have been too low. An increase gives us some breathing room instead of having to dismiss almost every model and many types of scenes immediately.

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Postby drevokocur66 » Fri May 22, 2020 1:27 am

xxx wrote:
error01 wrote:All day getting higher TKT prices. The question is: Is it temporary or from now on forever? 5.6 TKTs Gio for 2on1 before was 3.8 TKT. Gonzo now 8.5 TKTs before was 5 TKT

I want to restructure the whole thing. There is too much of a difference between people paying full $$$ price and others with membership tickets + discounts. It can go from 1 to triple the price. And the ticket value is counter intuitive in a bad way. I have been wanting to get rid of tickets altogether for a long time but I also want to keep the memberships.

With that said, the prices for our main studio scenes have been too low. An increase gives us some breathing room instead of having to dismiss almost every model and many types of scenes immediately.


Again, for me, the price should reflect the quality and creativity of the content. If you just plan to make the same thing you make now more expensive, it won't fly. Give me content I "WANT" to buy.
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xxx wrote:
error01 wrote:All day getting higher TKT prices. The question is: Is it temporary or from now on forever? 5.6 TKTs Gio for 2on1 before was 3.8 TKT. Gonzo now 8.5 TKTs before was 5 TKT

I want to restructure the whole thing. There is too much of a difference between people paying full $$$ price and others with membership tickets + discounts. It can go from 1 to triple the price. And the ticket value is counter intuitive in a bad way. I have been wanting to get rid of tickets altogether for a long time but I also want to keep the memberships.

With that said, the prices for our main studio scenes have been too low. An increase gives us some breathing room instead of having to dismiss almost every model and many types of scenes immediately.


Curious how this would turn out.
Pricing policy had IMO a huge role in LP success. And it's also one of the best answers against piracy.
So I understand the idea of reducing the price gap between memberships and individually bought scenes.

But I don't understand why higher prices would help low popularity models. Customers will instead be more picky. (at least that what I will do as I have a regular monthly porn budget.) And it will mostly help other studios who won't change their prices.
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Postby pastaga » Fri May 22, 2020 2:45 am

In fact, if you want to simplify the purchase system : get rid of the memberships, get rid of the $$$, and simply sell tickets. Like from 1 to 1000 tickets, and the more you buy the higher the discount is.
Simple, same system for everybody, and still some discount for big customers.
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Postby HwtOxc8K » Fri May 22, 2020 3:16 pm

Can we please get the genres back on legalporno.com? They're missing for months now

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Postby SimplyStunning » Fri May 22, 2020 8:21 pm

pastaga wrote:But I don't understand why higher prices would help low popularity models. Customers will instead be more picky. (at least that what I will do as I have a regular monthly porn budget.) And it will mostly help other studios who won't change their prices.


+1, agree with everything.
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Postby SimplyStunning » Fri May 22, 2020 8:46 pm

pastaga wrote:In fact, if you want to simplify the purchase system : get rid of the memberships, get rid of the $$$, and simply sell tickets. Like from 1 to 1000 tickets, and the more you buy the higher the discount is.
Simple, same system for everybody, and still some discount for big customers.


+1, Agree! I personally feel that going to a straight $$$ system will definitely push forward the concept of LP/AnalVids being nothing more than a clip store. This will give it no brand identity which is already being lost with the flood of varied amateur content in pornbox now. Instead of being a place where customers are loyal to because of content and expected brand quality like a hardcore version of Brazzers. It will definitely be more of a place I visit every once in a while as it is priced out of my budget and resembles other sites like Clips4Sale and AdultDVDEmpire.
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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri May 22, 2020 8:55 pm

Savage AF, my friend.

I think the ideal path lies somewhere in the middle. I can understand xxx's desire to push Pornbox further toward his initial concept for Legalporno. At the same time, I can understand the fans' desire to continue their ongoing relationship with the brand, which has been very fruitful over time.

To address this, I would suggest that the forums remain online, but be re-tooled as a general forum for all Pornbox users (as opposed to the "LegalPorno" forums), with sub-boards for each studio including Gonzo, Giorgio Grandi, Private, PornWorld, etc.

It would be a colossal mistake to sacrifice that brand loyalty, but if you're trying to shift focus away from LegalPorno as a brand and introduce the concept of a general clip store featuring many different studios, I really think that is the best middle-ground solution which will please the largest possible sample of your audience.

I also reiterate that, as a long-term goal for Pornbox, you should do something to allow studios to customize their individual landing pages so that they are more identifiable. I'm not talking about interface changes or custom API elements, but just something as simple as custom banners, backgrounds, color schemes, etc. It's a branding thing and it seems kind of simplistic and dumb on the surface, but as with anything else in the world of branding, a little bit goes a long way.

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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri May 22, 2020 9:08 pm

If you really want to get rid of tickets altogether, I would suggest studio-specific memberships. Pornbox can still present all users with clips from all studios in a unified storefront model, but only content from subscribed studios would be available for streaming and download. I don't think a general Pornbox membership makes sense because it seems counter-intuitive to the basic concept of a clip store, and you'll be making people spend money on studios they have no interest in watching. Studio-specific memberships are the way to go, but then you're basically just Gamma with a unified storefront, aren't you?

If you're going to continue the clip store model, I still think tickets are the ideal unit of transaction for that concept, so unless you're looking to do away with the idea of Pornbox as a clip store entirely, I don't know if purging tickets makes sense. It might look better for you financially on paper, but consumers are not going to respond well to the idea of a clip store that does not allow them to pick and choose individual clips. At that point, it's kind of not a clip store anymore.

You just have to decide what Pornbox is going to be. Is it a clip store? Is it Gamma? Is it something else entirely? The presentation of the concept and the unit of transaction can only be considered fully once you have a solid answer to that question.

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