Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[dap-addict]

Oh, gosh, she works also for others and he sure dont like it! LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHLVNES8nw
Despite that special effect top.

Wont check what he wrote about her but I can sort of imagine she was the sweetest and best and most honest etc, but than... Oh, LOL, XD! Maybe Blue wants to have a good laugh and find all the bs...

[BlueShadow]

Oh, gosh, she works also for others and he sure dont like it! LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHLVNES8nw
Despite that special effect top.

Wont check what he wrote about her but I can sort of imagine she was the sweetest and best and most honest etc, but than... Oh, LOL, XD! Maybe Blue wants to have a good laugh and find all the bs...

BTW I don't even know why he suddenly started talking bad again about Misha Cross on his propaganda forum XD
Regardless of whether it is true or not she accepted to do 'sex' for 'help in the business' (nothing is for free I guess, it's just a question, not an accusation, he mentions 'sex' and 'nothing against her will', so...), he takes advantage of his advantageous position and does not hesitate to bash a girl. Disgusting.

The fact is that probably he don't accepts the fact that for girls is just work, he is a producer, be a producer I say XD. Instead he must invent stories (or drama) the honest girls who love him, are jealous of him, etc. Who work for others or don't say thanks to him for the eternity ('cause an agency sent them first there XD) are bad soul.
When the first to lie, also to the agencies with shady moves (like the thing himself mention), it's him.
As he said, 'to protect his business', and this is the focus for which he tries to make new girls trust him and convince them to have an exclusivity, but instead of a regular contract with other types of favors and supports in the business.
Two benefits in one, no contract to pay, more potential profits if the girl does not do other anal / DP with others. Of course smart girl (or bad soul?) realize that...
It's all about business whatever he said to the new girls to not focus on money and bla bla bla.

[BlueShadow]

Oh, gosh, she works also for others and he sure dont like it! LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxHLVNES8nw
Despite that special effect top.

Wont check what he wrote about her but I can sort of imagine she was the sweetest and best and most honest etc, but than... Oh, LOL, XD! Maybe Blue wants to have a good laugh and find all the bs...

BTW Jessy Jey don't count, he is only a psycho with the new girls who thinks they can work for others production just in B/G, if G/G even better,in this case the girl is an angel sweetheart! XD

At least I hope that these exclusive temporal agreements are good for the agency, if not for the girl who does not have a contract but just vain promises of a sure future success XD

[BlueShadow]

Anyone have a Ginebra Bellucci vlog? I'm curious, he hasn't talked badly about her on his forum for a long time XD
If, on the other hand, you have something from PornoDan or Rocco Siffredi it would be the top XD

[dap-addict]

BTW Jessy Jey don't count, he is only a psycho with the new girls...

Want she new, even if she was already 30yo when she started with porn?

[BlueShadow]

He say Misha was smart to say JUST anal exclusivity and not mention sex, 'cause she know he did nothing against her will.
Ok but... was necessary to say this and expose a girl?

Better girls know with who they are dealing, once you accept his deal you can be exposed in future (especially if you you say and what you do is always filmed even outside 'work'... XD ). If you don't have a (for him) good behaviour, don't smile to all his jokes, you are not grateful for eternity to him and thank him in all your interview, don't suit his t-shirt... XD

The only ones who can help get jobs and help in the career are agencies (or should be, in a normal world) not a narcissist producer.

PS
I'm not saying that the agencies don't have their own personal interests, but in a normal world the work of the agencies is that, the work of the producers is another...

BTW Jessy Jey don't count, he is only a psycho with the new girls...

Want she new, even if she was already 30yo when she started with porn?

She started in march 2020, she had deal with him in december with already scenes w LP on her back. So, not his preferred ''profile''.

[BlueShadow]

Anyway here some others screen from that violent scene from the devil XD
We can clearly see from her expression how she didn't liked that big cock .
Don't watch that scene, if you don't like splatter movie, is really a rough one. LOL





PS
I'm sorry to have exposed him after what she did to that poor girl.

[BlueShadow]

Who is this?

Sandra Sinfox on the 'good guy' site, Sandra T on the 'devil' site.

[number1s]

[quote="dap-addict] I can sort of imagine she was the sweetest and best and most honest etc, but than...[/quote]

Nah, Jessy still has a good heart because she wears his T-shirt in her vlog.
Yes, she started at 30 but will no doubt be a GILF by the time her scene goes up.

[BlueShadow]

And here we go, here the real problem, the real reason he was angry with her.
I knew that sooner or later he would mention LP. Bigger than him. XD




PS

owner of 21 sextury refers to him saying: he don't let you to do anal or you don't want? (cause he know how he behave with new models...) Apart from that this phrase alone, speaking about a producer, is freaky...
and: ''maybe HE LETS YOU work for my company...''
So, everyone knows the behavior of this producer and his way of working (manipulate and put pressure on models). LOL

[dap-addict]

I'm lost already.
Anyway, reading a studio owner or even studio worker only accepts a girl being owned by Bp lier APE makes me shudder. WTF!

[BlueShadow]

Seems this girl is a 'Erika Korti's girl'. Also the guy, same crew.
There are so many new russian girls doing anal on LP/AV that he had to do it, even in remote.

[BlueShadow]

So what is "pussy reduction" ?

Bwhahah, in fact I don't know if exist...but maybe yes.XD Was destruction, of course. XD

[BlueShadow]

the [spam] interaction circle of PW, why I'm not suriprised to see LP on the first circle? LOL

[BlueShadow]

The reality that perhaps escapes .. it's him who is always focused on LP / AV...



He said it too in the end, he's just a producer (and last news, he will stop to ''advice'' girls XD),


(coincidentally same words that I already said ...)




So, he say it too, he start to say the same things, in the end my quote in the signature have a sense LOL:
'I'm the voice inside your head You refuse to hear
I'm the face that you have to face mirrored in your stare'



would stop seriously '' advising '' every time what these girls have to do or not do (which in the end he does it just to earn for himself/busines) he would work in more serenity ... it is an 'honor' that he have decided to follow my advice LOL (even knowing he will never do that...)

By now the '' first '' with all this new platform, OF etc. etc. isn't even a thing anymore. It's not about being first, but the best, does he want to be both first and best? He wants too much ... don't worry, be happy. XD



PS
Of course it's a ironical post. I don't give too much weight to his words (''I also decided not try again to "convince" any of those girls about anything from now''), he will deny himself as always.

[dap-addict]

There are so many new russian girls doing anal on LP/AV that he had to do it, even in remote.

Is this supposed to be a PW scene?
Did he publish it on his websites?
Without him being the 1st?

[BlueShadow]

Here we go again...a girl refuse to work for him, and the professional producer mock her on his propaganda forum



Why should an adult model go to Budapest if not for money? it's their job.
Not agreeing to go there and having nothing to do with him was the best thing she could do.
Just my personal opinion!

and what he mean by 'find a solution'? He want her to work for free? XD



Says: 'the minimal of brain is always to set up an opinion after you know someone personaly'
When he says she is not so intelligent, did he say it after having met her personally?...



Besides, what does this have to do with it?
I'm sure if she had accepted he would have said she has a good heart and will be very successful in this business. (I bet he was ready to put 2-3 guys on her already.)

Second point, I don't understand the need (if not for put out some hate and frustration) to speak bad of a model who has simply and freely refused and explained that she do this for money, not for speak about herself and act like good friend with a producer... (then he talks about others who foment hatred ... he doesn't do anything else on that forum ...), is she interested in money? What a crime! An adult model who does porn for money ... the ones he knows, I'm sure they do it because they love him...



PS
Someone show this to Ivi Rein(<url removed>), she'll realize she made the best decision, and will see how a producer act like a kid for a 'no'.

There are so many new russian girls doing anal on LP/AV that he had to do it, even in remote.

Is this supposed to be a PW scene?
Did he publish it on his websites?
Without him being the 1st?

PW scene? In that case is not the director, not the actor, only producer I guess (not first time btw). But with the covid situation and all this russian girls that do first anal on LP/AV...you know...he must do something to try to get some girls first for him...

[robin_reid]

The reality that perhaps escapes .. it's him who is always focused on LP / AV...



He said it too in the end, he's just a producer (and last news, he will stop to ''advice'' girls XD),


(coincidentally same words that I already said ...)




So, he say it too, he start to say the same things, in the end my quote in the signature have a sense LOL:
'I'm the voice inside your head You refuse to hear
I'm the face that you have to face mirrored in your stare'



would stop seriously '' advising '' every time what these girls have to do or not do (which in the end he does it just to earn for himself/busines) he would work in more serenity ... it is an 'honor' that he have decided to follow my advice LOL (even knowing he will never do that...)

By now the '' first '' with all this new platform, OF etc. etc. isn't even a thing anymore. It's not about being first, but the best, does he want to be both first and best? He wants too much ... don't worry, be happy. XD



PS
Of course it's a ironical post. I don't give too much weight to his words (''I also decided not try again to "convince" any of those girls about anything from now''), he will deny himself as always.

About Macarena, there is not absolutelly any pressure on her back "from people in Prague hating him". She just wanted to do her first bga with us, concretelly with me in bcn, that's was her choice, and 1 month before her debut she refused his offer, again that was her choice and I had nothing to see with that, she told me about this just when we meet for shooting our scene for Gio's lab. Also she is free to do her first dp for any other company if she wants, doors at AV studios in Cz will be open for her anytime. But for now she is not bookable for dp in Budapest for the reason that she doesn't feel ready for that, but even so this psycho as always wanna book models for things for which they are not announced on their agency profiles, and after all the bullshits and lies he spoke to her about us and about me on her first shooting with him, the more I block her to not do it with him. And also one of the purposes of her tour in Budapest was just to get some bookings for bga, 3-4 max. with actors with normal dicks as is common in Budapest, because in Barcelona out of me there are few companies shooting bga, and the few ones always use same actors with big dicks (Alberto, Potro...)

[robin_reid]

and after all the bullshits and lies he spoke to her about us and about me on her first shooting with him, the more I block her to not do it with him.

And don't misunderstand these words, even so she doesn't wanna shoot with him and yesterday herself sent him several audios about it, he perfectly could book her directly in any moment if both parts wanted no matter if I doesn't allow the agency to send her to him anymore.

[Eloise]

This is still the best going thread on this website it might be even better than the forumpage on Pierre's own website what do you all reckon?

[dap-addict]

There are so many new russian girls doing anal on LP/AV that he had to do it, even in remote.

Is this supposed to be a PW scene?
Did he publish it on his websites?
Without him being the 1st?

PW scene? In that case is not the director, not the actor, only producer I guess (not first time btw). But with the covid situation and all this russian girls that do first anal on LP/AV...you know...he must do something to try to get some girls first for him...

So why you posted this at all in context of PW?
Is it even linked to the Bp lier APE?

[dap-addict]

Ok, I see:
He does castings now in Russia, with local BBC cloneing himself! LOL!
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[BlueShadow]

So why you posted this at all in context of PW?
Is it even linked to the Bp lier APE?

I thought it was clear from the beginning sorry... I also posted a screenshot of her casting and the tweet advertising her scene on his site.
She is one of Erika Korti girl, probably she is also the director of that scene, but just my guess in this case.

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Well, in a certain way, yes...XD

I repeat, he must be do something given the situation with the Russian girls, who do all the first anal, DP etc. for LP / AV, he found collaboration with Erika Korti for that, (in remote, work from home, smart working during pandemy let's say XD) one day if one of these girls become successful he can always boast that she started with him...

[dap-addict]

Yep, Erika has some new projects.

[viewer2]

This is still the best going thread on this website it might be even better than the forumpage on Pierre's own website what do you all reckon?

I reckon that not many people read this thread, let alone contribute. The problem for those outsiders who read it every now and then, is that some messages are clearly illegible, non understandable. With the screenshots, copy-pastes, sometimes you don't even know who is writing what. You can see recent examples, where most people understood that PW was being accused of taking a girl to the hospital, just because the post was badly written without any context. Also yesterday, there was a misunderstanding, you can read it just above.

No need to answer to me in a lengthy way. I know, i don't have to read if I'm not interested, let alone contribute.

Take this as just a constructive criticism. Some posts are just not understandable. We're not all 24/7 in PW forum and we don't all know all the context.
Is this thread intended to be read (by someone else than PW himself, and 2 or 3 insiders)? If yes, please try to make some redaction efforts. Please.

PS. I'm answering to you, Eloise, but this is not meant to you, you will have understood

[BlueShadow]

This is still the best going thread on this website it might be even better than the forumpage on Pierre's own website what do you all reckon?

I reckon that not many people read this thread, let alone contribute. The problem for those outsiders who read it every now and then, is that some messages are clearly illegible, non understandable. With the screenshots, copy-pastes, sometimes you don't even know who is writing what. You can see recent examples, where most people understood that PW was being accused of taking a girl to the hospital, just because the post was badly written without any context. Also yesterday, there was a misunderstanding, you can read it just above.

No need to answer to me in a lengthy way. I know, i don't have to read if I'm not interested, let alone contribute.

Take this as just a constructive criticism. Some posts are just not understandable. We're not all 24/7 in PW forum and we don't all know all the context.
Is this thread intended to be read (by someone else than PW himself, and 2 or 3 insiders)? If yes, please try to make some redaction efforts. Please.

PS. I'm answering to you, Eloise, but this is not meant to you, you will have understood

using my intuition (LOL) are you referring to this?
https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=13567&start=1040#p449129
and this comes from a member of that forum who doesn't even know what PW himself writes.


Screenshot copy-paste you don't even know who is writing what?
I teach a secret :



And how in a million years people can understand that it is me who accuse when it is clearly written 'PW quote' is out of my understanding... if people can't recognize something so easy not my fault.


Same thing for the ''misunderstanding'' of yesterday... I post screenshot for a reason, to contextualize.

The post was this:


I can't read this, sorry:

[BlueShadow]

Now at the very least I expect someone to understand that it is me who said: ''it is even linked to the bp lier?''.

[BlueShadow]

Maybe is also me who said: ''First time anal and IR sex « made in Russia » for cute 18 years old newbie RitaFox''
Now I have some doubts.

[BlueShadow]

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Dap, of course I'm joking.
I don't know how you didn't understand that I was referring to a PW scene, but it's ok.

[BlueShadow]

About that scene where on the forums he says 'bad things'' about one of his ''villains'' and precisely about a scene with a girl (Sandra T on RS site)
Here what they say:







Here what everyone can see:
Some other screens from the scene where (textual words): 'pussy destroyed, tears, she had to go to hospital.'


Look how she is uncomfortable with that dick in her pussy, look the tears:
Here she also put, by her own, a finger in her pussy, maybe the dick was too small for her XD

Without joking he was more in trouble, he had to stop 3 times not to cum (and its a continuous shot without cut), it was she who was fucking him. XD
But hey, pussy destroyed and tears. It wasn't even the roughest scene I've seen, what a disappointment...
For me he is always full of bullshit, or maybe is too naive to believe some girl's words.

[Pierrethebig]

May she run home and never come back because of that scene she did for Woodman.

[viewer2]

Without joking he was more in trouble, he had to stop 3 times not to cum (and its a continuous shot without cut), it was she who was fucking him. XD
But hey, pussy destroyed and tears. It wasn't even the roughest scene I've seen, what a disappointment...
For me he is always full of bullshit, or maybe is too naive to believe some girl's words.

This is a good illustration of my point.
Who is "he" in the paragraph quoted above? Rocco? Even at the end of the paragraph? How do you expect everyone to understand?

[BlueShadow]

Without joking he was more in trouble, he had to stop 3 times not to cum (and its a continuous shot without cut), it was she who was fucking him. XD
But hey, pussy destroyed and tears. It wasn't even the roughest scene I've seen, what a disappointment...
For me he is always full of bullshit, or maybe is too naive to believe some girl's words.

This is a good illustration of my point.
Who is "he" in the paragraph quoted above? Rocco? Even at the end of the paragraph? How do you expect everyone to understand?

Who is ''he''? Santa Clause of course.
Who made the accusation? Rocco?
Do I have to be so specific every time? If people don't understand the implication... And BTW 'I say full of bullshit' no need to say I was referring to PW. This too is implied XD

We have to be objective? I have some time to spare:

First phrase:
"Without joking he was more in trouble, he had to stop 3 times not to cum"

Here I am referring to Rocco, (since I say HE ''cum'') I must also explain this, I hope not ....

2nd:
''But hey, pussy destroyed and tears.''

And here I go back to quoting what ''he'' said, certainly not Rocco... the end of the paragraph is directly referred to what ''he'' said, quoted just a phrase before.
It's the logic.


See you again at your next grammar lesson.

[BlueShadow]

Oh, don't mistake my sarcastic response (especially the last line) for a mockery, that's not the case here, trust me. Then why should I, you're the only one who intervenes, I feel so alone here... XD
(sarcasm again ...)

I try to understand your point, believe me, but sometimes it seems to me a bit too much having to explain each time... in that case it seemed LOGICAL to me who I was referring to with those words. But maybe not everyone reads with my logic, that's okay.

[dap-addict]

Oh, don't mistake my sarcastic response

This said especially in longer posts it doesnt harm just to put names like PW, Rocco etc. instead of pronouns for an easier read.

[Pierrethebig]

and what he mean by 'find a solution'? He want her to work for free? XD

There are so many new russian girls doing anal on LP/AV that he had to do it, even in remote.

:...

There are " male performers" ,those they are ready any time to jump in a porn scene, take off their pants and perform. There are also those they take off their pants get an injection, and even if they move like robots, but they do the scene.Out of them there are some punters, they need to flirt with models, need some girlfriend experience to have an erection and all has to go by their way. If anything disturbs their good feeling, they fail, this comes with age as well.
He would probably first have some romantic moments, a lunch,dinner, some flirting, get encouraged, make a try out with the model, and after do a proper recorded scene.
Not everybody is a Pornodan, or a Rocco at his age, some need just take a pill, some need only to wake up morning, some they need 2-3 days, flirting, getting compliments, earning self esteem to can handle the situation.
Why he is so much onto bashing Rocco, or Pornodan in these past days?
He knows his own weakness, and cannot handle.
Since Rocco just getting more powerful, like a real Bull when refused, the other guy, just laugh and take a pill, he can not handle situations.
Probably related to his narcissistic disorder, he always need to feel he's placed in front line, need a special treatment.

[Therapya]

I'm sorry to have exposed him after what she did to that poor girl.

Oh yes, he DPed together with Rocco in a BA flight. In his dreams
The only thing can be true from all his post, he regret they`re not friends...
Does hereally think respectable people would let him around when everybody knows he abuse all people are fair play with him ?
Just look at his new "nightmare^attack" try out making trouble for Dan Leal(Pornodan)...
A Disaster this grinch.

[robin_reid]

When this bastard book models from other agencies then he tries to redirect them to his shady partner in Budapest by telling them that they are the number 1 agency bla bla... This is the way how he thanks the other agencies when they provide him with new models. I know this from several models, 100% reliable sources.

[BlueShadow]

When this bastard book models from other agencies then he tries to redirect them to his shady partner in Budapest by telling them that they are the number 1 agency bla bla... This is the way how he thanks the other agencies when they provide him with new models. I know this from several models, 100% reliable sources.

Himself said it. He like to talk...


I repeat, how people can trust him is out of my understanding, but ok... I admire the fact that he doesn't mind saying it, he has to be very protected (power of money I guess) by these agencies or whatever.

[BlueShadow]

And note: ''in secret'', here how he behave. How these agents and agencies can continue to trust without expecting a stab in the back at any moment ... ah yeah, money, I always forget ...
Judas is more reliable ... XD Then maybe when a girl doesn't respect an agreement (in words) he tells bash her on his propaganda forum, but he, the good guy and professional producer appreciated by all... can send girls from other agencies secretly to others.

In real life I could never trust someone who always acts in shady ways. And no, I don't need to have a dinner with him to understand it, what he says himself on his forum is enough, he comments for himself.