Giorgio Grandi says 90% of porn actresses dont like piss

[isis666xxx]

Sasha said on instragram lately that she will never come to Prague
She also said that she hates piss :-(

80% of models do not like piss, 10% hates it, other 8% considers piss indifferent, the left 2% likes it.

then why they do it???? for the money???? i think doing things you dont like for money is sad

1 of the 2% must be anna de ville

she can deepthroat penises pissing

look at her swallowing 25 shots of piss (+additional pee before)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/45264

[isis666xxx]

wait i said 80%, but 10% counts as + 80, so 90

sorry i was dumb im gonna edit main post, is 90% not 80%

[dap-addict]

i think doing things you dont like for money is sad

Again just come down on RL street level please!
Piss is pretty easy to take, it's no added sex, no added penetrations, not much longer work taken into account MU and fotoshootings, but usually up to 20% more pay.

[Oscar Batty]

This is very true, although I enjoy pissing myself but I actually very rarely shoot pee for Mambo Perv. I loose money but I prefer to keep the performers as confortable as possible.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I have only known 5 women (out of possibly many hundreds) that claim to like or be okay with piss, drinking it, and wet play...

Most do it only because they have to, or feel like they have to...or absolutely hate it, or refuse to do it.

The statistic is therefore, not too far wrong...

[TomHardick]

I'll never understand what's with the piss thing. I'm here because of the sex action. I love old scenes where piss was not included. The intensity was way better, everything was focused on sex.

[drevokocur66]

Gio himself hates piss content, but I am sure 90% of the girls just LOVE DAP.

[drevokocur66]

This is very true, although I enjoy pissing myself but I actually very rarely shoot pee for Mambo Perv. I loose money but I prefer to keep the performers as confortable as possible.

You also edit ATM, ATOGM, ATOGP, ATP, and cut just about every exciting part of your footage.

[isis666xxx]

The statistic is therefore, not too far wrong...

what

who u think u are to assume the statistic is 'not too far wrong'

giorgio is a porn god with tons of experience, u think u know better than giorgio to say 'is not too far wrong' ????

Gio himself hates piss content, but I am sure 90% of the girls just LOVE DAP.

giorgio hates piss content????

i find that hard to believe o.o

[isis666xxx]

hehe

[jerrybb]

So the next question is name the 10% who enjoy piss
Julia North seems to enjoy it in her latest scene.

[trueEroskaven]

well i don't think anyone forces girls into piss, they totally do it for the money and piss scenes sell better that dry scenes, just go for the best sellers and you will notice this. But i second the request for the 10% piss queens, you should focus on them of course.

[drevokocur66]

well i don't think anyone forces girls into piss, they totally do it for the money and piss scenes sell better that dry scenes, just go for the best sellers and you will notice this. But i second the request for the 10% piss queens, you should focus on them of course.

Bottom line...

If the girls are doing it, they are getting paid for it. If they don't get paid for it, they don't do it.

[ringstinger]

Definitely doing it more for the money in my opinion.. then the pure enjoyment? Then again, you could pretty much say the same thing with any sexual extreme acts? Can't imagine women loving to be DAP balls deep, or TP...

[House MD]

So basically 90% of porn actresses don't like salt water
What a hardcore raw brutal sex act hard to take and now scientifically proven by an eminent academic Gio

[Iddaoeeok]

then why they do it???? for the money???? i think doing things you dont like for money is sad

I'm going to quote you here from another thread: "dont u realize u are in a hardcore porn website?"

[dap-addict]

Definitely doing it more for the money in my opinion.. then the pure enjoyment? Then again, you could pretty much say the same thing with any sexual extreme acts? Can't imagine women loving to be DAP balls deep, or TP...

Isnt porn about getting attractive girls perform your sexual fantasies because they are payed to do so in this adult entertainment branch?
And isnt one of the problem users face to get the production studios stage and film exactly what we want?
Of course ideally the girls love what they perform and if they do so it shows, but its always only 1 our of 10.

I'd say it also applies to soft sex like pussy or even g/g play. Because who would enjoy to share their sex outside swingers clubs, but with cameramen on videos sold x-1000 times and put online partly for free for millions to see?

Porn basically boils down to users paying for their fantasy sex to be staged by studios. Finding girls and boys doing it for us is another art, a big scouting craft actually!

[M_sicas_Candido]

Gio himself hates piss content

I beg your pardon: are you saying that the guy who produces and invests the most in wet content on AV/Pornbox hates it? It's hard to believe. I imagine it's more laborious content to produce, just watch the BTS of this type of scene - several pauses and cuts are made to clean the set, the actors drink more water, the girls dry themselves, etc. But in the end all the effort is rewarded, because he manages to sell very well.

[Chimpy.677]

It's normal, peeing during sex is only for people with mental problems and this shows it, the vast majority don't like it, it's only for very "peculiar" people.
In addition to that, filming these types of scenes increases costs due to the fact that actresses and actors charge more for the scene. We must also add that everything gets dirty, the scenes are longer and you have to upload 2 scenes, one wet and one dry, which leads to having greater capacity on the servers.

[ballsackmystery]

I do see that and there is clearly a trade off being made here. It seems like the women who were performing on this site several years ago were much hotter than the current ones performing. I see that as a result of "piss" becoming mainstream and not just a niche topic anymore. It needs to go back to being niche and I believe y'all will be able to recruit better talent.

[plajvaz]

Gio himself hates piss content

I beg your pardon: are you saying that the guy who produces and invests the most in wet content on AV/Pornbox hates it?

Yes. Giorgio himself wrote somewhere in this forum that he don't like piss content. Check history of his posts.

[2017sucks]

Also 80-90% of them dont like anything "above" DP. When the people gonna face with the fact, that this is their job? Simply, they always try to give their maximum on the stage and the fans can easily think that they are enjoying. Its simple, porn actresses. Once again, porn actresses. I also kind of forgot, tried to delete that from my memory, some BTS of Lucy Thai from many years ago. It was a scene cut period, gangbang with 6 guys... To say like that, 100-150 cm of limp becoming cocks around her, while she was laying down on couch. And her face like watching a dead bug, disgusted on a moment, then without any impression, simply not interested. Sadly for her, internet was a baby and smartphones still not even in the "Balls" of their "fathers". So she couldnt "kill" that pause easily and and avoid to be bored.

Also, few years ago, watched some podcast with one of rare Serbian producers, describing almost the same situation at the cut. Moving to another room with the girl, "cmon, give them some courage and confidance, to feel desirable, to be able to work. You are here to work as a team and now they are losing erection because of your constant complainings. " Also after that chat only with the guys, "cmon, dont you see how hot she is, dont take everything so Deep, that should make you even more horny"...

So, he practically described good director as a good psychologist, team leader most of all.

Also, he mentioned one, only one girl that liked pissing... "Never could understand, beauty like an angel and was so much into it, while I hated it".

So, as I said, its their job, they are very well informed before shooting and then they accept or refuse.

About this place and the girls and that remaining 10%, maybe Im wrong but that even more would show how good actresses they are. Anna De Ville, Kaitlyn Katsaros, Rebel Rhyder, Kimberly X, Mina, Kristy Black.

[petermc934]

Where’s this quote from? Is this about Sasha Beart?

I think it’s a fairly obvious thing to say that most girls probably aren’t into being pissed on. It’s a pretty extreme degrading thing in most people’s eyes and isn’t commonplace in porn, it’s why this site is so unique. If lots of models were into it, we wouldn’t just have the same few girls on a constant loop. I really don’t think he’d be shooting 5,000 scenes with Anna de Ville (as incredible as she is) if there were a constant line of girls desperate to shoot this stuff. There’s only so many scenes people need with the same girl. He has no choice though as these are obviously happy to shoot this type of content and are available to him in Prague. Lots of US girls have now shot piss content whether it be for Hookup Hotshot, 2Drops, Disciples Of Desire or just for their own content but this fairly short one on one stuff, not piss gangbangs with 8 guys pissing on them multiple times.

Girls who claim to love it would be Kaitlyn Katsaros, Gia Derza, Brooklyn Gray, Rebel Rhyder, Baby Kxtten, probably Eden Ivy too.

I doubt many girls love double and triple anal penetration either and piss is far more harmless than those things. At the end of the day though, if girls are willing to do it for money, I’ll watch it. I don’t really care if they like it as long as they can fake it well enough. I hope they can get more girls though as it is beginning to get tiresome seeing the same girls in similar scenes over and over again.

[anallover99]

I also hate all piss scenes. Disgusting.

[M_sicas_Candido]

I hope they can get more girls though as it is beginning to get tiresome seeing the same girls in similar scenes over and over again.

It's a shame that talented girls stopped shooting on GIO: Francys Belle, Natasha Teen, Jessy Jey, Alicia Trece, Avery Jane, Kitty Li, Jolee Love (more recently) among many others. However I cannot guarantee that the removal of all of them was due to the unconditional obligation to shoot wet scenes.

If we asked the audience: would you give up the content of drinking piss for the return of a special girl? I bet many would answer "yes".

[dap-addict]

Also 80-90% of them dont like anything "above" DP. (...)BTS of Lucy Thai from many years ago. It was a scene cut period, gangbang with 6 guys... To say like that, 100-150 cm of limp becoming cocks around her, while she was laying down on couch. And her face like watching a dead bug, disgusted on a moment, then without any impression, simply not interested.

That was then, but today injections solved that problem.
Still, the only work after initial arousal, but that can in extreme be generated by the previous scenes girl. Rest is work and all performers have to be best possible actors selling the fantasy of a randy bunch craving for hard anal sex and piss, and whatsoever on top. Girls not playing along cant stay in biz in Prague, Medellin and Rio, they can do it only in Russia.

About last post I'll soon start a poll, but I guess majority will vote no and not yes.

[dap-addict]

If we asked the audience: would you give up the content of drinking piss for the return of a special girl? I bet many would answer "yes".

Question is also would girls offered to take piss resign from earning 200e more?
Could no piss shoots really open up a larger talent pool - or is it maybe the knowledge that they can very easily earn 200e more by letting them be pissed on that makes that job attractive?

[M_sicas_Candido]

Girls not playing along cant stay in biz in Prague, Medellin and Rio, they can do it only in Russia.

Does this mean that it is possible for some acts in Russian studios to happen without prior arrangement?

About last post I'll soon start a poll, but I guess majority will vote no and not yes.

Perhaps the most fanatic fans will vote no; but even they can get tired after seeing that the pool of girls available to shoot on GIO is restricted to less than 10 performers.

[M_sicas_Candido]

Could no piss shoots really open up a larger talent pool - or is it maybe the knowledge that they can very easily earn 200e more by letting them be pissed on that makes that job attractive?

Financial motivation is always a determining factor, maybe the most important, this is indisputable. But do you agree that this type of content is more demanding on girls and therefore not all of them are up to the challenge of becoming "pee sluts"?

I realize that for a girl to build a regular journey at the GIO studio she needs to have the profile of a "piss slut" (I'm not referring to those ones who sporadically shoot to the studio and don't even last a year) I'm talking about becoming established and lasting a large time like Jolee, Rebel Rhyder, Emily Pink, Francys Belle and some other Italian performers.

[isis666xxx]

Where’s this quote from? Is this about Sasha Beart?

is from here dear ♥

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I also hate all piss scenes. Disgusting.

snowflakes afraid of S&M hate piss

[isis666xxx]

Kaitlyn Katsaros

Girls who claim to love it would be Kaitlyn Katsaros

kaitlyn katsaros must like it, cuz shes very masochistic

It's normal, peeing during sex is only for people with mental problems and this shows it, the vast majority don't like it, it's only for very "peculiar" people.

pfffffff

'mental problems' 'peculiar'

damn

im gonna explain to u in a simple way why pee is hot

is not about the piss, is about sadism and masochism, to fuck her with the pee and she receiving the pee, S&M
S&M is basic and a core thing, we all have it in more or less degree i think

of course they dont like the taste of pee, but thats what makes it cool, is about masochism, not about the pee

people afraid of reality say masochists and sadist have 'mental problems' like chimpy.677 says

the more masochistic a girl is, the more she likes pee, she doesnt like pee but she likes being pissed because of the masochism

I'll never understand what's with the piss thing. I'm here because of the sex action. I love old scenes where piss was not included. The intensity was way better, everything was focused on sex.

piss is sex too, is S&M, piss is very sexual, giving her the pee and she receiving the pee in a masochistic way
much fun also

[isis666xxx]

this is an example of a very sadistic man (pierre woodman) and a very masochistic girl doing pee things

(i dont support pierre woodman claims that their pee is not longer pee or any of that, the scenes drinking liters of water are very hot & high too)

this girls drinks piss from toilet because of masochism

[dap-addict]

It might be transparent but it still smells like piss.
Its repulsing for many girls, but still its easily earned additional money.

Question however is as an alternative for those preferring to do lighter work for less pay if after Gonzo studio is really out of market one of the remaining Prague players take on shooting slightly ligher dry scenes the way Gonzo did? I think there should be an alternative because far from all girls doing porn are masochists - and pro porn isnt about sadism either.

[SuperImp]

As far as this topic goes - I hope most folks realize that the women in porn only do this for money and/or to use it as advertising for their other streams of revenue (OF, escorting, sugar daddies, etc.). Whether they truly like any/some/all of the stuff they do is mostly hidden behind the scenes/camera. You'll never truly know unless you actually know them and they give you a legit answer that isn't bullshit. Of course, you'll have some women who naturally love having sex (including whatever kinks/fetishes they are into) on camera and being watched - especially if they can get paid for it. The percentage mentioned in this thread is irrelevant, but you can bet most women would prefer to do only pussy penetration scenes if they could. Fuck, they'd probably prefer just to be nude/solo. Heck, they'd probably like to get paid just for them to be in your presence lol

I like watersports (In porn and also real life), but I only like it when the model is actually into it - this includes other porn acts too. When a model has a facial expression of hesitation or disgust, the scene is a bust and they should have done a scene without it as it breaks the flow in my opinion. Unfortunately, for A LOT of the scenes on this site, you can usually tell a good portion of them don't like it.

There is only a handful of models who actually appear/look like they like it. This also includes the models who can actually swallow piss too. It's why I have that annoyance with the tags. Most piss scenes are tagged as piss drinking/swallowing, but they don't actually do it. Most of them just use the strategy of letting it spill out of the month and pretending to swallow.

Like the other posters mentioned already, you can have this same discussion on any other porn act (Facials, Cum Swallowing, Anal, ATM, etc.). As much as this forum loves anal (including DAP/TAP), I got some bad news for ya Money will open the doors as most people have a price on what they will be willing to do, even if they do/don't do it in their personal lives. Let alone if they like it or not.

Same concept can be applied to Sofa Weber - You think she likes anal based on her consistent facial expressions and hesitations/stiffness? She definitely doesn't like piss either. These types of girls may meet the aesthetically attractive metric, but you know for damn sure they aren't doing it cause they like it.

Don't forget your personal lives too. Your partner likely doesn't like everything you are into, but they may still do it cause they like you or like seeing you get off (and vice versa). Not much of a difference here, other than incentives at hand.

[aulien]

Sasha said on instragram lately that she will never come to Prague
She also said that she hates piss :-(

80% of models do not like piss, 10% hates it, other 8% considers piss indifferent, the left 2% likes it.

Personnaly, I just wonder who these 10% are.
For sure Alexxa Vice, Anna De Ville, Baby Kxtten, Elisabetta Zaffiro, Eden Ivy, Jureka Del Mar, Kaitlyn Katsaros and Vile Vixen
Maybe Greta Foss, Kaira Love, Kristy Black, Lily Veroni and Lady Zee.

Stacy Bloom, was impressive, but she also said here that she hates piss. Sweetie Plum and Julia Red were great piss drinker, but clearly, they did not like it...

[langis]

For sure Alexxa Vice, Anna De Ville, Baby Kxtten, Elisabetta Zaffiro, Eden Ivy, Jureka Del Mar, Kaitlyn Katsaros and Vile Vixen
Maybe Greta Foss, Kaira Love, Kristy Black, Lily Veroni and Lady Zee.

Stacy Bloom, was impressive, but she also said here that she hates piss. Sweetie Plum and Julia Red were great piss drinker, but clearly, they did not like it...

Nataly Gold?

[petermc934]

If we asked the audience: would you give up the content of drinking piss for the return of a special girl? I bet many would answer "yes".

For me personally no, unless they replaced it with some other kink. I’m not coming here if it’s just anal sex, I can see that anywhere. Double anal and triple anal don’t up the ante for me either. If anything I find the multiple penetrations off putting.

I’m here primarily to see hot girls getting pissed in the mouth as there is not many other sites doing that on a regular basis or not requiring a lot of money. Other things that would make me buy a scene here would be puke blowjobs like Yummy Estudio do (not the lame milk stuff) or rough scenes with hard face slapping. I’m not saying that’s all I’m interested in, I’m just saying standard porn with anal sex is readily available elsewhere, I don’t need to come here and pay on a scene by scene basis for that. I come here for stuff I can’t get elsewhere.

[drevokocur66]

I hope they can get more girls though as it is beginning to get tiresome seeing the same girls in similar scenes over and over again.

It's a shame that talented girls stopped shooting on GIO: Francys Belle, Natasha Teen, Jessy Jey, Alicia Trece, Avery Jane, Kitty Li, Jolee Love (more recently) among many others. However I cannot guarantee that the removal of all of them was due to the unconditional obligation to shoot wet scenes.

If we asked the audience: would you give up the content of drinking piss for the return of a special girl? I bet many would answer "yes".

Nope.

[Falcon131721]

I personally do not like piss scenes, given the option of wet or dry I always by the wet in case I miss interesting anal bits

[dap-addict]

I personally do not like piss scenes, given the option of wet or dry I always by the wet in case I miss interesting anal bits

+ 1
Same for me exactly, I buy the wet version because it's usually not a big price difference and there is a fair chance to get more anal in that longer version. Only with LTP I usually buy the dry version because they almost never piss on girls when they get assfucked.

But I also realized that wet dominance here made me try to find my own wet kinks or at least something that makes wet attractive for me. I thus more and more dont skip the wet parts but watch how the girls react to the piss thrown at them and what tactics they use to avoid it. It's an example that shows me how studios create a support by availability of something I never asked for in the first place!