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Why no French girls??

Postby Jack_Jackal43 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:29 pm

What happened to French girls on this site? I only see Clea Gaultier appearing regularly and she’s more into soft porn. What happened to seeing girls like Jessie Volt, Lina Luxxa, Angel Emily?

I see a lot of Italian girls and Spanish girls and Russian girls. Is it lack of talent available in France or are they not willing to join this site?

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby viewer2 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:11 pm

Jack_Jackal43 wrote:What happened to French girls on this site? I only see Clea Gaultier appearing regularly and she’s more into soft porn. What happened to seeing girls like Jessie Volt, Lina Luxxa, Angel Emily?

I see a lot of Italian girls and Spanish girls and Russian girls. Is it lack of talent available in France or are they not willing to join this site?


In terms of Spanish, Russian and Italian girls, just look at the main studios and who is in charge of them. They will find girls from their nationality. But you forgot also forgot Czech due to the fact that some studios headquarters are located in Prague.

There are new French girls to my knowledge, so your question is pertinent.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby bdsmpretty » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:28 pm

An extraordinarily beautiful current hardcore French model who has released through this site is Agnes (aka Mina Kali).
Most of her shoots to date have been with Jacquie Et Michel TV, but a few of those have also been distributed through AV.

To talk about 'that classic French feminine look' would be hugely problematic (because you get into questions of race, ethnicity, nationalism, etc... all valid challenges to such a reductive stereotype), what I would say is if that mainstream media 'Amelie' cliché of the cute black bob/fringe/bangs haircut, ultra-skinny, with the expensive silk scarf and accessories all nonchalantly arranged 'just so', then she fits that model.

'Belle à faire pleurer!' (as the French say) and she *really* goes for it. A very passionate and energetic performer.

The only logical reasons one can imagine prevent her from having performed with an 'AV house studio' already will be:
A) That she either doesn't want to perform here (she is very happy with J&M and has no interest or desire in working further afield).
B) Industry politics. X blocking Y because Z told them so. All that toxic proxy BS that comes between performers and work.
C) No one at any of the major AV studios has noticed her.

I recommend her latest scene here (red bikini in the garden one). And I for one would LOVE to see her shoot here.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby bdsmpretty » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:35 pm

^ Agnes aka Mina Kali. viewtopic.php?f=104&t=25741&p=394535&hilit=mina+kali#p461871

This is her thread in the models section. Make some noise there and maybe something will happen?
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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby Starrio » Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:28 pm

I wanted Giorgio Grandi and Gonzo to do more Alba Lala black cocks gangbangs, but they haven't done anything with her for a while.

I also like Colombians. I really hope they don't waste the opportunity to have blacks only scenes with Emily Pink and Natasha Teen now that they are in Prague.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby xxx » Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:48 pm

France suffers from the interdiction to have agencies and stupid laws in general.

The result is even more underground stuff and more of what the lawmakers supposedly wanted to prevent.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby bdsmpretty » Mon Apr 26, 2021 9:04 pm

xxx wrote:France suffers from the interdiction to have agencies and stupid laws in general.
The result is even more underground stuff and more of what the lawmakers supposedly wanted to prevent.


You are getting close to the hypocritical-cynical heart of a much of the EU project 'shopfront'.

They are for enterprise! for equal access to employment opportunities for women! for free expression! and all that talk.
But as soon as someone says they wants to do that in a way that a politician's moral prejudices (and/or priest) wouldn't approve of, it's a no.

It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic, and insulting to all those women such hypocrisy touches.
It also endangers their safety by obliging them to work in the shadows and without the full support of the law in disputes.

That situation would seemingly provide perfect grounds for models to justify spending a few weeks of the year in Prague?
Or at least making a round-trip tour of selected CZ studios on a regular basis, quarterly, bi-annually, etc? Maybe...

I visit Mina's socials every so often to keep up with her work, and she is very 'engagée' as they say there (politically engaged/committed to causes). One of her pet causes being the 'Sex Work is Work' campaign. Support and share!
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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby Starrio » Mon Apr 26, 2021 11:52 pm

No really, I live in Cali.

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Re: Why no French girls??

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby RedBaron » Mon May 10, 2021 6:39 pm

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby beklof » Mon May 10, 2021 10:03 pm

Hi, you site experts, tell me am I right that probably the most famous porn site in France, Dorcel Club, requires all men to use a condom? Have I understood correctly? Or is it the law throughout France?

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby DPraved » Mon May 10, 2021 11:18 pm

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby pornlover_holland » Mon May 24, 2021 2:12 pm

beklof wrote:Hi, you site experts, tell me am I right that probably the most famous porn site in France, Dorcel Club, requires all men to use a condom? Have I understood correctly? Or is it the law throughout France?


That is right. On Dorcel Club all scenes are shot with condoms. The reason is that when you want to show porn on television in France (on Pay-TV off course), you may only do that if the actors are wearing condoms.
Off course Dorcel Club could shoot scenes without condoms but then they wouldn't be able to show them on pay tv anymore. So assume it is a decision driven by the revenues from showing their vids on Pay TV.

Many actors who perform in Dorcel Club scenes are also performing in condom free porn vids from other porn companies. So this aren't actors/actresses who are only willing to perform in porn movies with condoms

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby robin_reid » Mon May 24, 2021 2:23 pm

pornlover_holland wrote:
beklof wrote:Hi, you site experts, tell me am I right that probably the most famous porn site in France, Dorcel Club, requires all men to use a condom? Have I understood correctly? Or is it the law throughout France?


That is right. On Dorcel Club all scenes are shot with condoms. The reason is that when you want to show porn on television in France (on Pay-TV off course), you may only do that if the actors are wearing condoms.
Off course Dorcel Club could shoot scenes without condoms but then they wouldn't be able to show them on pay tv anymore. So assume it is a decision driven by the revenues from showing their vids on Pay TV.

Many actors who perform in Dorcel Club scenes are also performing in condom free porn vids from other porn companies. So this aren't actors/actresses who are only willing to perform in porn movies with condoms

With TV income they have paid at least the half production cost of a movie, which means that for them it worth to shoot with condoms.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby pornlover_holland » Mon May 24, 2021 2:55 pm

robin_reid wrote:With TV income they have paid at least the half production cost of a movie, which means that for them it worth to shoot with condoms.


A logical decision off course but Dorcel shoots high quality vids with many hot porn actresses. Sad that they are using condoms because that is the reason I don't watch their scenes.

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Re: Why no French girls??

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Postby House MD » Thu May 27, 2021 12:20 pm

My first porn was French and Italian on French satellite TV at midnight
French porn was always the worst porn I've seen my whole life
The condom brainwashing ideology makes their production rubbish
Yes the girls are freaking hot and out of this world, the lingerie upscale, the video rendition top notch but
the shots are lame with too much "long-lasting" close ups or missing shooting the face of the girl with the holes in action
and what makes French porn so annoying are stupidities like blindfolding the actress, or external ejaculation and no swallowing and buckle up: "blowjobs with condoms"... yeah you heard me right
Also watching DPs with condoms is cold and lame
Finally, the condom industry makes lots of bucks owing to this condom-only policy and their lobbies in the media: actresses like Ovidie are always imposing their biassed view on porn as if PCR was useless or DAP is pure violence against women... yeah lots of French pornstars are arrogant in stark contradiction with cool horny open-minded Eastern euro chicks

I believe Brazil also used to have a condom-only policy

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Postby dap-addict » Thu May 27, 2021 5:18 pm

House MD wrote:...or DAP is pure violence against women... yeah lots of French pornstars are arrogant in stark contradiction with cool horny open-minded Eastern euro chicks

Who says such bs in France?
Inside condom-porn ppl?


My guess is lack of French porn girls could be linked to own industry feeding at least the better looking girls with lighter economized porn jobs. If there is enough money in this system it can feed them and create a closed circle.
On the other hand there is also J&M and they are non-condom I think, arnt they?
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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby House MD » Thu May 27, 2021 8:27 pm

Ovidie, Clara Morgane are the few pornstars who in public interviews make a clear direct association between gangbangs/multiple simultaneous penetration and violence against women
There are also other witnesses from real actresses who stay anonymous
France is one the countries where people can have strong ideologies and the one against porn is particularly prevalent amid former actresses

J&M has chosen to get rid of condoms because they obviously sell better but actresses are the one who take the final decision, meaning if the cunt stresses on latex, J&M shall comply and make a condom scene

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby beklof » Thu May 27, 2021 11:12 pm

robin_reid wrote:With TV income they have paid at least the half production cost of a movie, which means that for them it worth to shoot with condoms.


pornlover_holland wrote: A logical decision off course but Dorcel shoots high quality vids with many hot porn actresses. Sad that they are using condoms because that is the reason I don't watch their scenes.


Thanks for the interesting information regarding the use of condoms in French porn. I had always wondered about this. I’m completely with you in that I personally don’t see any idea in porn that uses a condom. It leaves me cold, it doesn’t excite me. I would like to ask in more detail,that do you know the real reason for such a practice. Is it a matter of giving people some example of safe sex maybe?

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby pzib8 » Fri May 28, 2021 3:55 pm

It would be awesome to see either Ines Lenvin or Claire Castel again at Legalporno :)
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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby House MD » Fri May 28, 2021 10:05 pm

beklof wrote:
robin_reid wrote:With TV income they have paid at least the half production cost of a movie, which means that for them it worth to shoot with condoms.


pornlover_holland wrote: A logical decision off course but Dorcel shoots high quality vids with many hot porn actresses. Sad that they are using condoms because that is the reason I don't watch their scenes.


Thanks for the interesting information regarding the use of condoms in French porn. I had always wondered about this. I’m completely with you in that I personally don’t see any idea in porn that uses a condom. It leaves me cold, it doesn’t excite me. I would like to ask in more detail,that do you know the real reason for such a practice. Is it a matter of giving people some example of safe sex maybe?


You hit the nail on the head
French porn actresses have strong ties with French producers like Dorcel, J B Root, etc. who in turn have deep connections with condom manufacturers
Hence they act as ambassadors and in a nutshell their message is "sex without condom is repugnant"
There are also AIDS associations who also fought to make shooting porn without condom illegal but hopefully they lost their case

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby beklof » Fri May 28, 2021 11:10 pm

House MD wrote:
beklof wrote:
robin_reid wrote:With TV income they have paid at least the half production cost of a movie, which means that for them it worth to shoot with condoms.


pornlover_holland wrote: A logical decision off course but Dorcel shoots high quality vids with many hot porn actresses. Sad that they are using condoms because that is the reason I don't watch their scenes.


Thanks for the interesting information regarding the use of condoms in French porn. I had always wondered about this. I’m completely with you in that I personally don’t see any idea in porn that uses a condom. It leaves me cold, it doesn’t excite me. I would like to ask in more detail,that do you know the real reason for such a practice. Is it a matter of giving people some example of safe sex maybe?


You hit the nail on the head
French porn actresses have strong ties with French producers like Dorcel, J B Root, etc. who in turn have deep connections with condom manufacturers
Hence they act as ambassadors and in a nutshell their message is "sex without condom is repugnant"
There are also AIDS associations who also fought to make shooting porn without condom illegal but hopefully they lost their case


Thanks again for the interesting information about French porn. I ask these because I don’t know much about French porn. Actually, I only know Dorcel somehow but I’ve only seen a few of their videos. Is it true that French porn actresses are exceptionally good looking? Let’s hope the LP manages to get at least some of them interested in working for them.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby pornlover_holland » Sun May 30, 2021 8:35 pm

House MD wrote:
beklof wrote:
robin_reid wrote:With TV income they have paid at least the half production cost of a movie, which means that for them it worth to shoot with condoms.


pornlover_holland wrote: A logical decision off course but Dorcel shoots high quality vids with many hot porn actresses. Sad that they are using condoms because that is the reason I don't watch their scenes.


Thanks for the interesting information regarding the use of condoms in French porn. I had always wondered about this. I’m completely with you in that I personally don’t see any idea in porn that uses a condom. It leaves me cold, it doesn’t excite me. I would like to ask in more detail,that do you know the real reason for such a practice. Is it a matter of giving people some example of safe sex maybe?


You hit the nail on the head
French porn actresses have strong ties with French producers like Dorcel, J B Root, etc. who in turn have deep connections with condom manufacturers
Hence they act as ambassadors and in a nutshell their message is "sex without condom is repugnant"
There are also AIDS associations who also fought to make shooting porn without condom illegal but hopefully they lost their case


Thanks for this extra information about porn shoots with condoms in France. The problem is that some people think that porn must educate people about have safe sex. That is not why people watch porn, they watch it for entertainment. And for me it is very simple, in my fantasy condoms don't exist, so I don't wanna see them in porn. And what will be the next thing. Are they going to complain about gangbangs or aren't gapes allowed anymore because that isn't good for the actresses in the porn movies? When I watch porn I don't wanna see the normal sex you have at home, I wanna see other things which aren't considered normal in everyday's life. Why is anal so popular in porn? Because that it not something that is normal for everyone in normal life. But it porn it is everywhere.

And almost all porn is shot without condoms. Very logical because that is what most porn fans wanna see. And porn performers know that, so it is their choice to perform in no-condom vids. If they don't wanna do that, they should find another job. Pornstars get tested regular (much more than normal people) and that is the reason why they can shoot without condoms in porn. Part of their job.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby robin_reid » Mon May 31, 2021 1:34 am

pornlover_holland wrote: Pornstars get tested regular (much more than normal people) and that is the reason why they can shoot without condoms in porn. Part of their job.

Actually most of the positive test test I've seen in this biz were coming from newbie girls that never shot porn before, and when they get tested for her first porn shooting, surprise surprise, clamidia o gonorrea mode on.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby OKCTwister » Mon May 31, 2021 2:10 pm

robin_reid wrote:
pornlover_holland wrote: Pornstars get tested regular (much more than normal people) and that is the reason why they can shoot without condoms in porn. Part of their job.

Actually most of the positive test test I've seen in this biz were coming from newbie girls that never shot porn before, and when they get tested for her first porn shooting, surprise surprise, clamidia o gonorrea mode on.


Since you are in the business could you remind how you take the sample for a RT-PCR nowadays, do you use:
- blood from finger pricks
- inner cheek swab
because apparently for Covid, it's risky to do a nasopharyngeal swab

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby robin_reid » Mon May 31, 2021 2:24 pm

OKCTwister wrote:
robin_reid wrote:
pornlover_holland wrote: Pornstars get tested regular (much more than normal people) and that is the reason why they can shoot without condoms in porn. Part of their job.

Actually most of the positive test test I've seen in this biz were coming from newbie girls that never shot porn before, and when they get tested for her first porn shooting, surprise surprise, clamidia o gonorrea mode on.


Since you are in the business could you remind how you take the sample for a RT-PCR nowadays, do you use:
- blood from finger pricks
- inner cheek swab
because apparently for Covid, it's risky to do a nasopharyngeal swab

Only some paranoid american porn companies ask for this bullshit covid test within 24 hours before every shooting.

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby OKCTwister » Mon May 31, 2021 11:47 pm

robin_reid wrote:
OKCTwister wrote:
robin_reid wrote:Actually most of the positive test test I've seen in this biz were coming from newbie girls that never shot porn before, and when they get tested for her first porn shooting, surprise surprise, clamidia o gonorrea mode on.


Since you are in the business could you remind how you take the sample for a RT-PCR nowadays, do you use:
- blood from finger pricks
- inner cheek swab
because apparently for Covid, it's risky to do a nasopharyngeal swab

Only some paranoid american porn companies ask for this bullshit covid test within 24 hours before every shooting.


OK
but what about the PCR test for HIV is it by swab or blood

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Re: Why no French girls??

Postby robin_reid » Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:21 am

Blood, the swab is for chlamydia and gonorrhea (lab also check the urine for it)

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Re: Why no French girls??

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Interesting


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