dap-addict wrote:I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Another case are all the schoolgirl themed porn movies out there.
There I feel much more uneasy actually!
dap-addict wrote:I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Kaderon wrote:Stuff like children or rape is not fanatsy, it is a mental disorder. Millions watch action movies without developing the urge to kill people.How many fanaticize about children and rape without not having this urge in them? Not a single person who is mentally healthy IMO.
Kaderon wrote:No, sorry. No mentally healthy person fantasizes with children or rape. That is my opinion. Some can control this desire, some cannot. But just the desire to see something like that or to fanaticize about it is for me a sign of a mental disorder. These people should seek help before they can no longer control it and harm other people.
Kaderon wrote:dap-addict wrote:I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
I think everyone has to decide for themselves how they feel about these posts. You can't look into people' heads.
Stuff like children or rape is not fanatsy, it is a mental disorder. Millions watch action movies without developing the urge to kill people.How many fanaticize about children and rape without not having this urge in them? Not a single person who is mentally healthy IMO.
Kaderon wrote:^If you sexualize rape and become aroused by it, then you have a propensity for it. Every normal mind feels disgust when it sees rape. This happens, for example, with Hollywood films. But if you get aroused by it and watch porn on the subject, you are a pretty sick person.
Kaderon wrote:^If you sexualize rape and become aroused by it, then you have a propensity for it. Every normal mind feels disgust when it sees rape. This happens, for example, with Hollywood films. But if you get aroused by it and watch porn on the subject, you are a pretty sick person.
drevokocur66 wrote:
So arousal is the problem here, and if I get aroused by watching a cooking show, and then I seek out food porn, I am a pretty sick person.
Kaderon wrote:drevokocur66 wrote:
So arousal is the problem here, and if I get aroused by watching a cooking show, and then I seek out food porn, I am a pretty sick person.
Sex with food has no victims. If it makes you horny how someone jerks off on a loaf of bread - it may be weird but it's not sick. But if it makes you horny when violence is inflicted on others, and rape is nothing else, then you are sick.
Kaderon wrote:^Imagine you are walking in the park and you witness a rape. Could you jerk off an hour later to a scene where rape is simulated? I don't think so. I don't believe that your brain classifies the same situation as repulsive and arousing. You don't hear about a child porn case on the news that disgusts you and then watch a porn scene with a schoolgirl fantasy.
Kaderon wrote:You can think you're as smart as you want, but you can't outsmart your brain IMO. I can't be afraid of something or disgusted by something and then jerk off 5 minutes later to the fantasy version.
Kaderon wrote:No, sorry. No mentally healthy person fantasizes with children or rape. That is my opinion. Some can control this desire, some cannot. But just the desire to see something like that or to fanaticize about it is for me a sign of a mental disorder. These people should seek help before they can no longer control it and harm other people.
Sir Noel wrote:If you cannot distingusih fantasy (and the role of fantasy) from reality then YOU are the one with a mental disorder.
dap-addict wrote:I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Another case are all the schoolgirl themed porn movies out there.
There I feel much more uneasy actually!
Kaderon wrote:Sir Noel wrote:If you cannot distingusih fantasy (and the role of fantasy) from reality then YOU are the one with a mental disorder.
So fantasy has no boundaries for you? If it makes you horny it is in no way disturbing as long as it is a fantasy scene, right?
Sir Noel wrote:
Yes, as long as you are mature enough to seperate fabtasy from reality then no issues.
Kaderon wrote:Sir Noel wrote:
Yes, as long as you are mature enough to seperate fabtasy from reality then no issues.
I think the human being has established a certain connection to violence in the process of his evolution. And for healthy people it is classifiable and even imaginable. I think every person has the instinct to use violence to protect his life or that of his loved ones. Therefore, our mind can classify it in entertainment form, although it would disgust him in reality.
But if a work colleague says to me that he has just watched an animation where an baby was raped by 10 men, I would say that the man is disturbed. Just having the impulse to watch something like this says a lot about him.
Sex with children is not part of our evolution. It is not an instinct, nothing familiar, but a misguided desire. Therefore, such a thing, even in the form of a fantasy, is a sick behavior IMO.
Starrio wrote:
You quoted something you didn't understand. He said "as long as you are mature enough to seperate fantasy from reality then no issues."
Kaderon wrote:
I think any psychologist will agree that watching child pornography in fantasy form is a worrisome behavior. Even if one is aware that this is just fiction, that no child will come to harm, the conscious decision to look at these drawn or animated images is abnormal.
Why is child pornography in drawn and animated form, banned in most countries? Because the governments believe that citizens cannot distinguish reality from fiction? Why do governments allow video games and movies where you can massacre people, but at the same time there are no video games and movies where children are raped. As long as people can tell the difference between reality and fiction, that shouldn't be a problem, in your opinion.
If everything is okay in fantasy form, if you recognize the difference between fiction and reality, why is one legal and the other forbidden?
Starrio wrote:Kaderon wrote:
I think any psychologist will agree that watching child pornography in fantasy form is a worrisome behavior. Even if one is aware that this is just fiction, that no child will come to harm, the conscious decision to look at these drawn or animated images is abnormal.
Why is child pornography in drawn and animated form, banned in most countries? Because the governments believe that citizens cannot distinguish reality from fiction? Why do governments allow video games and movies where you can massacre people, but at the same time there are no video games and movies where children are raped. As long as people can tell the difference between reality and fiction, that shouldn't be a problem, in your opinion.
If everything is okay in fantasy form, if you recognize the difference between fiction and reality, why is one legal and the other forbidden?
Child pornography is obviously bad because in order to do that they may use real children which are not mentally ready for such roles, it is abuse, and it is not acceptable, that's just common sense, we covered that already.
In terms of animation or games a lot of times is because of culture, and also because of political fanatics that just want to be right in their made up beliefs.
It is the same reason why in some countries it is OK to kill babies in the womb and in others it is not, it comes down to political fanatism more than reason or common sense.
Which to be fair is actually fine because if people of that low intelligence are in government it means a big chunk of the population is also low intelligence so they do need those regulations.
Also most people that like school girl fantasies don't ever go near children in those fantasies, it is mostly high school girls that can already reproduce because most people have their first sexual experiences with high school girls, so it is nostalgic.
If the guy was a loser in high school and didn't get laid until college then he probably won't feel anything for high school girls, and his nostalgic feelings will be more towards college girls.
When it come to rape fantasies it is fine as long as he knows the difference between fantasy and reality.
Kaderon wrote:^If it bothers you, ignore it. Then you can sit in front of your computer and jerk off all day long.
drevokocur66 wrote:Midget looks is the cut off for me. But tall or short, proportionate is the key.
powerful76 wrote:dap-addict wrote:I understand you, but I bet its much more an esthetic small vs. big thing for most fans.
Another case are all the schoolgirl themed porn movies out there.
There I feel much more uneasy actually!
thats exactly what is for me...
super skinny, tiny girls facing girth cocks...
the stretch and size differences...
thats what exciting for me...
nothing related with age.
even elder girls ( 60+) , if they are super skinny, and are facing huge cocks , i find super exciting!
Kaderon wrote:I started with child pornography, so I didn't mix anything up. I have said that I find it disturbing that girls are demanded who have the dimensions of children. If that's all okay with you, as long as it's fantasy, then so be it. It was my mistake to start such a discussion.In a forum where every 2 days a new thread on the subject of scat, vomit and lastly sex with animals is opened. I'm sorry, I didn't want to be a bone killer for anyone.
Starrio wrote: No one is thinking of children with petite girls(...)
Kaderon wrote:Starrio wrote: No one is thinking of children with petite girls(...)
My absolute last comment on this - to put something like that as a fact sounds absurd to me. There are millions of pedophiles in our society and thank God not all of them have access to the dark net or other materials. It's naive to think that these people won't look for replacements where the actors look as much like children as possible. But there are countless justifications for everything.
And they don't ask for uniforms here either. They are talking about body measurements of 140 cm and 40 kg. These are not measurements of petit women, not even of high school girls.
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