Perspective

[dpconnoisseur1]

I don't know what your end game is because it seems your debating for the sake of it! This is a waste of time for me and boring.

it was just your opinion based on some aversion to commonly held definitions because you think using the same definition of words as other people is dangerous groupthink?

Just as it is your opinion that it is a sex act! I fail to see the point that your making.

Does this sound like someone giving an opinion or stating an immutable fact

Does anything that you said sound like an immutable fact because it sure sounds to me that you think so. Well I'm here to tell you NO it was your opinion. Thread heading as a reminder after all is Perspective(point of view or opinion). I really don't think you expected us all to have the same perspective as you. No immutable facts anywhere on this thread.

I am not even sure what kind of a response you could have expected from TLA if you are knowlingly defining your terms differently to how you would expect everyone else to. That just seems like a recipe for confusion.

Here we go again, your making assumption for what I said when it is clear in black and white. How am I knowingly defining terms differently that EVERYONE ELSE, really. So you really think everyone else agrees that anything that causes arousal is a sex act, wow! You act like your on some high ground casting judgment down on us lowly forum dwellers. What you state is not factual is your opinion that anything that causes an arousal is a sex act and I vehemently disagree. That is the point of our contention. There are over 7 billion people on this earth and you believe a majority define an sex act that anything that causes arousal is a sex act. I don't think so and best of all we have no way of knowing. So when you make statements like commonly held definitions and immutable facts it is laughable. Common to who? surely it is not common to me. Immutable fact how is this definition of your an immutable fact what scientific proof can you give that it is. Come on your better than this. What your actually stating is that your small or large group thinks it is. In my terms an opinion that I disagree with as you do with me stating it is not.

I'm done you can have the last words, I just could not let you get away with saying common held definitions, immutable facts and redefining terms none of which is true! Just know we will never agree and that EVERYONE ELSE does not agree with this definition.

[tgcfc26]

A dildo in the ass, or perhaps sucking on a dildo is surely at least as removed but few people would say they are not sexual acts.

I'm not sure I agree with this, plum. I could argue that the two acts you mention serve no purpose other than sexual, they're something an individual would indulge in for these reasons only. My point being that pissing specifically serves a nonsexual purpose for everyone on a daily basis, for that reason I understand the detachment for certain individuals.

My suggestion is that the act of pissing in a sexual context mimics ejaculation in the same way that suggestively sucking on a lolly or eating a banana can mimic sucking a cock.

Perhaps, although your suggestion of mimicry is very much a personal interpretation; I think there must be at some level an attraction to the humiliating and degrading nature of it.

I should clarify, I'm merely playing devil's advocate here. I have absolutely no interest in asserting my opinion on what is or isn't a sexual act in the eyes of any individual, just an interest for the insight of others.

[Tastes Like Ass]

^ Except one is the result of physical stimulation, predominantly that of a sexual nature, while the other is a bodily process of excreting toxins and waste. It's perfectly understandable how somebody would find no sexual correlation with the latter.

It's that time of the week, TLA

Well, that sort of begs the question of what makes producing cum a sexual act. I think most people would say it's because it's part of the reproductive process. But that only applies if you cum in her pussy. If you shoot it in her mouth, or on her face, or if you go to a sperm bank and shoot it in a little jar, does it still count as a sexual act?

And there's also the matter of female ejaculation. According to some girls, they often piss and cum at the same time. So, is that a sexual act or not?

I think there must be at some level an attraction to the humiliating and degrading nature of it.

Perhaps so, but I think that's also true of cumming in her mouth, or on her face, especially when the goal is to cover her face, like in a bukkake scene, for example. Again, is that sexual or not?

[Sir Noel]

I don't know what your end game is because it seems your debating for the sake of it! This is a waste of time for me and boring.

The end game is just a concern that you appear to be somehow attempting to marginalise content that a great many people like on this site by categorising it as not even a sexual act and doing so in a way which makes it sound as if this is something that is understood by all.
This was what you wrote:

The problem is in one of the things you include in your second group and I'm adding more piss drinking, pissing, kreme, vomit drinking, scat (shit eating) are not sexual act so even if the girl was willing because she was offered enough money and it is not physically demanding it doesn't mean it should be filmed!

So your argument is that different rules ought to apply to these acts than to others on this site because they are not sexual acts. that is an argument that may have some justification if you are making it to someone who shares your definition. However, it seems you just assume that everyone agrees that those things are not sexual acts - if you do not then the reasoning doesn't follow and the argument falls flat.

Does anything that you said sound like an immutable fact because it sure sounds to me that you think so. Well I'm here to tell you NO it was your opinion.

I hope nothing I said would sound like that. The point is not that we need some kind of objectivity here where there is none but that unless we have some reasonable expectation that the other person agrees on the attribution then the argument is lame. It is like if I argued to you that of course there ought to be less DP in scenes because abhorrent evil acts should not be portrayed in the porn shown here: the argument would only make sense if i had some reasonable expectation that you would agree with me that DP scenes are abhorrent evil acts (which I am almost certain you do not).

My guess is that the vast majority of people on this forum, whether they are pro or anti pissing will regard pissing as a sexual act (in this context, ie on a person in the midst of having sex). that is not arrogance on my part or me asserting my definitions as immutable, it is just common sense and clear observation.

[Sir Noel]

Perhaps, although your suggestion of mimicry is very much a personal interpretation; I think there must be at some level an attraction to the humiliating and degrading nature of it.

It was just a suggestion. Clearly, aspects of humiliation and dominance can and probably do play a part, as they do for a great many people with anal sex. However, women like Mea Melone and Susan Ayn clearly do not look in any way humiliated in their wet scenes, yet those scenes still turn me and a great many others on so there must be more at play here.

[dpconnoisseur1]

My guess is that the vast majority of people on this forum, whether they are pro or anti pissing will regard pissing as a sexual act (in this context, ie on a person in the midst of having sex). that is not arrogance on my part or me asserting my definitions as immutable, it is just common sense and clear observation.

Just wanted to give you the courtesy of reading your response but I still don't agree! Later dude!

[Sir Noel]

My guess is that the vast majority of people on this forum, whether they are pro or anti pissing will regard pissing as a sexual act (in this context, ie on a person in the midst of having sex). that is not arrogance on my part or me asserting my definitions as immutable, it is just common sense and clear observation.

Just wanted to give you the courtesy of reading your response but I still don't agree! Later dude!

Thank you. We have both had our say and, like you say, better to now drop the matter