realtip wrote:evil-pineapples wrote:You do not know the definition of "ad hominem."
If that were true, then that would obviously make two of us that don't know it.
Explain. I still don't think you get it, but spell it out for me. Perhaps I'm wrong.
realtip wrote:Semantics. The comparison is tantamount to you calling them monsters, which is exactly what you did.
It's not semantics nor is it tantamount to anything, but I'm through arguing this point, so let's just move on.
realtip wrote:I see. So making girls feel like shit for having small tits is wrong, but making them feel like shit for having fake tits- e.g., comparing them to "lab experiments," fictitious monsters, along with all the other insults hurled against them in this thread- is perfectly OK? You'll get all on a soapbox about how men shouldn't make girls with small natural tits feel like shit, but you're doing the exact same thing to girls with fake tits. Do you not see the hypocrisy there?
a) Plastic surgery is a choice. That's the difference.
b) I'm mostly criticizing plastic surgery as an institution and the cultural pressure for women to modify their bodies, not the women themselves. I didn't really make that clear, so that's my bad. The comparisons to lab experiments and Frankenstein's monster are meant to evoke an analogy that men think they can build perfect women in a lab, not to shit on the women themselves. I'm sure it's just semantics to you anyway, so let's move on.
realtip wrote:What evidence, either empirical or observational, is there to suggest that most men are opposed to boobjobs? I am not saying most men agree with me on this just for the sake of saying it, or to just brag about being right. I'm saying it because, based on the general consensus that I have observed, it is true. If you feel that it isn't, feel free to state why. If you choose to ignore common sense reality that is right there in front of your face, then I'm afraid that makes you the moron.
Well, if we're just sticking to anecdotal evidence, most of my friends are not big fans of boobjobs, or of plastic surgery in general. But I don't claim to know the minds of most men, so I don't really have an answer for you here. My point was that
you don't know either, but you just won't admit it for whatever reason.
realtip wrote:That makes absolutely no sense. How does having the likely majority opinion invalidate anyone else's opinion?
Because you don't know that your opinion is the "likely majority opinion." That word "likely" is telling. You just assume it
must be the majority opinion because it's what
you believe. You can always rationalize what
you believe. It's confirmation bias.
realtip wrote:I never said that my opinion was fact, unlike you who uses authoritative terms like "natural is ALWAYS better than fake."
I think it's pretty clear in the context of my original comment that I was stating my opinion, not speaking for other people. I don't feel like I have to add a disclaimer to the bottom of every post I write to make that known.
realtip wrote:I just simply said that most men likely agree with my opinion. If you feel that is not true and that most men disagree with my opinion, then again, present logical reasons to explain why you believe that, just as I have done. Thus far, you have not presented anything to contradict the reasons I have given, or even respond to them.
You have only provided anecdotal evidence and your own conclusions based on that evidence. I cannot provide anything better than that either, but I don't claim to know the majority opinion, unlike you.
*DISCLAIMER: Any opinion expressed in this post is the personal opinion of Mr. Evil Pineapples and does not represent the opinion of the human race. Mr. Evil Pineapples cannot speak for the human race as an collective and makes no claims that he can. Thank you for your time.