Shame around wanting hardcore porn

[AnalGooner7]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

I don’t think that’s particularly fair given the titles of the videos are called “Anna DeVille is indestructible” or “7on1 anal destruction on slutty 19yo”. This language is encouraged by the producers and the videos and I don’t think it’s fair for fans to be shamed for engaging with it and wanting to see good, hard anal destruction.

[jjwhite1985]

1. Why would you care - it's a porn forum. Just get your rocks off on whatever your thing is.
2. It really depends on what the comments are. You gotta remember that porn is a performance (and also a job for these girls) - so wanting to see them in "anal destruction" or rough gangbang scenes or whatever, is par for the course, wanting to see them in genuine pain is another thing entirely. The other issue with this is that when the girl's boundaries are crossed in this way she isn't going to stick around in the industry for long, which is obviously not what anybody wants.

So yeah, wanting to see hardcore porn where everyone is consenting and the performers are ok with what's going on is fine; wanting to see girls in pain and having their boundaries crossed isn't, and deserves a good shaming even in the porn world.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

Yeah, exactly. And OP, you're really attacking a strawman. If anything, this place is very tolerant, sometimes to a fault and what you're describing, what with someone intervening and denouncing someone, justifiably or not, rarely ever happens.

And since hopefully most people are able to differentiate between fantasy, as embodied in these title among other things, and real life this as a rule isn't really that much of a problem.

But there's a minority of posters who clearly have no concern for the models involved, even on the most superficial level, and as has been concisely pointed out by jjwhite1985, deserve being called out on it.

Porn is about the selling of illusions and the less painstaking efforts it takes for all involved in the material production of it, the better it is for everyone involved.

[netzerkaiser]

I think the OP is correct. I think there is a stigma attached to being the member of any porn site.

And I think it's unjustified, it's wrong. Personally my thing here is trying to finish off the old GG, NRFTA, Sineplex classic scenes, & much from 2012 - 2017, but I just never seem to find the time.

Now, I know that people have no problem telling me about their adventures on tacky hook-up sites. But no-one ever tells me about their being a member of a porn site. And yet most of them watch porn clearly.

So I think, yes, there is a stigma, & certainly there shouldn't be.

I don't think there is anything to be ashamed of. In fact, you are being honourable & paying instead of free loafing off of whatever 'guess which pixel' free site there is.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

If I understand OP correctly he was saying that there is a stigma attached to these things among users of this site itself, he wasn't really talking about society at large in this instance. But maybe I've misunderstood and he may correct me on this point if that is indeed the case.

[Chimpy.677]

It's always the same fools who say that. Also, and more importantly, it's ALWAYS the ones who say things like that who are the most depraved and misogynistic. It just happens that they need to say that in public to try to cover up what they really are. And it happens everywhere. These people act like saints and then you start investigating them and they end up being the worst.

[netzerkaiser]

If I understand OP correctly he was saying that there is a stigma attached to these things among users of this site itself, he wasn't really talking about society at large in this instance. But maybe I've misunderstood and he may correct me on this point if that is indeed the case.

I think you're possibly correct, but I think the angle I present is also of merit.

Thanks!

[netzerkaiser]

It's always the same fools who say that. Also, and more importantly, it's ALWAYS the ones who say things like that who are the most depraved and misogynistic. It just happens that they need to say that in public to try to cover up what they really are. And it happens everywhere. These people act like saints and then you start investigating them and they end up being the worst.

I think you're right, if I'm right in guessing what you're saying. There's so much hypocrisy in life, particularly over sexuality. Always has been.

[netzerkaiser]

I still have a couple of Silwa magazines from 1999 that remind me that they just blew away everything I thought I knew then about society, about inter-sex relations, & the honesty still lingers to this day.

[lightrider]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn.

I think that a girl who is ashamed of porn can't perform well. You can see her shame in her eyes and that turns the observer off. Some girls try porn anyway because they desperately need money

[jjwhite1985]

I think the OP is correct. I think there is a stigma attached to being the member of any porn site.

And I think it's unjustified, it's wrong. Personally my thing here is trying to finish off the old GG, NRFTA, Sineplex classic scenes, & much from 2012 - 2017, but I just never seem to find the time.

Now, I know that people have no problem telling me about their adventures on tacky hook-up sites. But no-one ever tells me about their being a member of a porn site. And yet most of them watch porn clearly.

So I think, yes, there is a stigma, & certainly there shouldn't be.

I don't think there is anything to be ashamed of. In fact, you are being honourable & paying instead of free loafing off of whatever 'guess which pixel' free site there is.

I agree with the point you're making here, but I think you misunderstood OP's post. If I'm not mistaken he seems to be complaining that he and others have been shamed by *other users on this forum* for saying they like to see the performers uncomfortable or in pain. Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick, happy for OP to clarify.

[latina-girls-yes]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

I don’t think that’s particularly fair given the titles of the videos are called “Anna DeVille is indestructible” or “7on1 anal destruction on slutty 19yo”. This language is encouraged by the producers and the videos and I don’t think it’s fair for fans to be shamed for engaging with it and wanting to see good, hard anal destruction.

you are ultimately responsible for the language you use. as with all of your behaviours, the moral buck stops with you
seeking to justify using language you feel awkward about (and it's purely between you and your conscience why you might feel like that) by saying that a site or another member uses it is a weak argument.
as Carla Jean says in the film 'No Country For Old Men': "The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

personally speaking, there are words i use here and words i don't. for example, i prefer to use girl/woman (as gender terms) and/or model/performer (as professional terms) to language with more insulting/degrading connotations that other members and sites use to mean the same thing (worthless whore, useless bitch and so on)
my personal reason for that (no one else has to share it) is that i don't use insulting/degrading language IRL towards women IRL, and that naturally carries over into my xxx life (accepting that porn is not a real life context but a fantasy context)
but i can also imagine that some people might be able to successfully compartmentalise their language and behaviours into two firewalled boxes; being polite and decent to women IRL, and getting into a dominant and abusive role in xxx life, and always conscientiously ensuring there is no overlap

from the other side of the equation, some women in the industry (as seen through their xxx socials) are clearly happy for others to use what some may consider insulting language towards them in the right context (xxx fantasy). they may even use it about themselves in the same context
BUT! should a fan attempt to use that same language towards them IRL (ie. in a way that they consider outside of xxx fantasy context) i suspect most if not all would (and justifiably so) block you online, or try to kick you in the teeth IRL
these are women who act in professional xxx content not only for money, but also for the pleasure of entertaining their fans (us) for which we should show all due respect. what they are most definitely not are verbal punchbags for every incel with a greivance who wants to let off steam

so ultimately choosing your language relies on a mix of your personal values (remembering/respecting that others values will vary) and your sense of appropriate/inappropriate context (remembering/respecting that others sense of that will vary). but forget what other members and sites say. "The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

[netzerkaiser]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

I don’t think that’s particularly fair given the titles of the videos are called “Anna DeVille is indestructible” or “7on1 anal destruction on slutty 19yo”. This language is encouraged by the producers and the videos and I don’t think it’s fair for fans to be shamed for engaging with it and wanting to see good, hard anal destruction.

you are ultimately responsible for the language you use. as with all of your behaviours, the moral buck stops with you
seeking to justify using language you feel awkward about (and it's purely between you and your conscience why you might feel like that) by saying that a site or another member uses it is a weak argument.
as Carla Jean says in the film 'No Country For Old Men': "The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

personally speaking, there are words i use here and words i don't. for example, i prefer to use girl/woman (as gender terms) and/or model/performer (as professional terms) to language with more insulting/degrading connotations that other members and sites use to mean the same thing (worthless whore, useless bitch and so on)
my personal reason for that (no one else has to share it) is that i don't use insulting/degrading language IRL towards women IRL, and that naturally carries over into my xxx life (accepting that porn is not a real life context but a fantasy context)
but i can also imagine that some people might be able to successfully compartmentalise their language and behaviours into two firewalled boxes; being polite and decent to women IRL, and getting into a dominant and abusive role in xxx life, and always conscientiously ensuring there is no overlap

from the other side of the equation, some women in the industry (as seen through their xxx socials) are clearly happy for others to use what some may consider insulting language towards them in the right context (xxx fantasy). they may even use it about themselves in the same context
BUT! should a fan attempt to use that same language towards them IRL (ie. in a way that they consider outside of xxx fantasy context) i suspect most if not all would (and justifiably so) block you online, or try to kick you in the teeth IRL
these are women who act in professional xxx content not only for money, but also for the pleasure of entertaining their fans (us) for which we should show all due respect. what they are most definitely not are verbal punchbags for every incel with a greivance who wants to let off steam

so ultimately choosing your language relies on a mix of your personal values (remembering/respecting that others values will vary) and your sense of appropriate/inappropriate context (remembering/respecting that others sense of that will vary). but forget what other members and sites say. "The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

Your intellect i don't doubt. But using the greatest psychopath I've ever seen does not make one comfortable in any respect. This guy was pure evil. I would hope most of us here aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY0DG8rUnCA

[ringstinger]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

Don't think I've personally experienced this myself. Never felt ashamed or criticised for using such words of enjoying watching girls beautiful asses being 'destroyed' by big thick cocks.

I do have to comment, thoughts on girls who talk this style of language? Had a friend with benefits, who used to watch LegalPorno videos together, and she used to be very vocal about wanting her pussy, and ass destroyed. Loved it!

[jjwhite1985]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

Don't think I've personally experienced this myself. Never felt ashamed or criticised for using such words of enjoying watching girls beautiful asses being 'destroyed' by big thick cocks.

I do have to comment, thoughts on girls who talk this style of language? Had a friend with benefits, who used to watch LegalPorno videos together, and she used to be very vocal about wanting her pussy, and ass destroyed. Loved it!

They're just speaking figuratively, as in wanting to be fucked super hard, they don't literally want to be injured lol

[latina-girls-yes]

"The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

Your intellect i don't doubt. But using the greatest psychopath I've ever seen does not make one comfortable in any respect. This guy was pure evil. I would hope most of us here aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY0DG8rUnCA

the point i was trying to make was that the OP should examine why they feel comfortable/uncomfortable or ashamed/unashamed about using certain words about certain subjects (to arrive at a personal resolution based on their own conscience), rather than try to delegate that decision making (and responsibility that goes with it) away from themselves and onto third parties

we can all comment to say why we do/don't use this or that term, and the OP can take that into consideration or ignore it, but ultimately the OP has to choose their own terms based on the bidding of their conscience

that's why i used the coin example from 'No Country For Old Men'
Anton Chigurh (a psychopath) uses the coin as a way of distancing himself from having to accept personal responsibility for his actions (and so from having to accept moral responsibility for his crimes), by trying to offload that life-or-death moral responibility (and the potential guilt that goes with it) onto an inanimate object

and Carla Jean (probably the weakest and least able to defend herself character in the film) is the only one who has the courage to call him out about it to his face, revealing him to himself to be (despite his prowess in the use of violence) a moral coward and a fundamentally weak and dysfunctional individual (irrational and extreme violence is usually a vice of the damaged, the dysfunctional and the coward)

it's a great moment in a great film (i'm glad you've seeen it too)

btw when checking imdb for the exact quote yesterday i noticed this interesting gem in the trivia section:
'According to a January 2018 article in Business Insider, a group of psychiatrists studied 400 movies and identified 126 psychopathic characters. They chose Javier Bardem's portrayal of Anton Chigurh as the most clinically accurate portrayal of a psychopath'

but the OP's topic is use of language (not film or psychology) and i'm on my luchbreak, so i will leave it there

[trueEroskaven]

I think we can define only 3 limits that no one should cross and if you do, you deserve the shame and you should even be treated as a criminal. Those 3 are pretty easy to guess, child porn, animal porn and rape or non consensual porn. Anything else should be allowed, and then we enter into the domain of personal taste. If you like to eat shit, that' fine, is not my thing but i really don't care about it and you shouldn't care abut other people shame.

[netzerkaiser]

"The coin don't have no say. It's just you."

Your intellect i don't doubt. But using the greatest psychopath I've ever seen does not make one comfortable in any respect. This guy was pure evil. I would hope most of us here aren't.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY0DG8rUnCA

the point i was trying to make was that the OP should examine why they feel comfortable/uncomfortable or ashamed/unashamed about using certain words about certain subjects (to arrive at a personal resolution based on their own conscience), rather than try to delegate that decision making (and responsibility that goes with it) away from themselves and onto third parties

we can all comment to say why we do/don't use this or that term, and the OP can take that into consideration or ignore it, but ultimately the OP has to choose their own terms based on the bidding of their conscience

that's why i used the coin example from 'No Country For Old Men'
Anton Chigurh (a psychopath) uses the coin as a way of distancing himself from having to accept personal responsibility for his actions (and so from having to accept moral responsibility for his crimes), by trying to offload that life-or-death moral responibility (and the potential guilt that goes with it) onto an inanimate object

and Carla Jean (probably the weakest and least able to defend herself character in the film) is the only one who has the courage to call him out about it to his face, revealing him to himself to be (despite his prowess in the use of violence) a moral coward and a fundamentally weak and dysfunctional individual (irrational and extreme violence is usually a vice of the damaged, the dysfunctional and the coward)

it's a great moment in a great film (i'm glad you've seeen it too)

btw when checking imdb for the exact quote yesterday i noticed this interesting gem in the trivia section:
'According to a January 2018 article in Business Insider, a group of psychiatrists studied 400 movies and identified 126 psychopathic characters. They chose Javier Bardem's portrayal of Anton Chigurh as the most clinically accurate portrayal of a psychopath'

but the OP's topic is use of language (not film or psychology) and i'm on my luchbreak, so i will leave it there

Great answer. Respect.

[dap-addict]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

I don’t think that’s particularly fair given the titles of the videos are called “Anna DeVille is indestructible” or “7on1 anal destruction on slutty 19yo”. This language is encouraged by the producers ...

I sometimes comment about fans asking for girls to get destroyed, but it's nothing to do with shaming, it's just my call to be reasonable and distinguish between porn scene titles and actual porn production.

[isis666xxx]

It's always the same fools who say that. Also, and more importantly, it's ALWAYS the ones who say things like that who are the most depraved and misogynistic. It just happens that they need to say that in public to try to cover up what they really are. And it happens everywhere. These people act like saints and then you start investigating them and they end up being the worst.

emmmmmm

you always insult and shame people that like pissing, prolapses etc

According to 99,99 % of the world, I'm not saying it, go to any porn site in the world and always the most consumed content will be the traditional hardcore anal sex, the only crazy people who consume urine, vomit, prolapse (and who knows in the future what else) are you.

[isis666xxx]

I'm being 100% objective

And even if there were scenes without urine, they would still sell more because nowadays the only customers left are those sick with urine and weird things, everyone else no longer buys or left directly

Sure, hun. You're the epitome of objectivity.

It's true, you guys aren't normal. To like that kind of thing you have to have some kind of problem, it's not just about different tastes.

[pornlover_holland]

Does anyone else feel that there is a shame or stigma attached to wanting to see hardcore porn, particularly in this forum? I’ve seen myself and others add comments about wanting to see girls destroyed, and we are met with replies saying that we are misogynistic and want to see the girls in pain.

I don’t think that’s particularly fair given the titles of the videos are called “Anna DeVille is indestructible” or “7on1 anal destruction on slutty 19yo”. This language is encouraged by the producers and the videos and I don’t think it’s fair for fans to be shamed for engaging with it and wanting to see good, hard anal destruction.

I also see this kind of reactions on this forum. That really amazes me because this is a very hardcore anal website. And when I watch porn I just wanna see very hard anal sex. At the end of the scene assholes are often totally worn out, so you can call that destruction as the producers do that.

The porn on this website (and also on many other websites) is made for guys. Porn shows the sexual fantasy's of guys and doesn't care about the fantasy's of the girls. That is not misogynistic, that is just what many fans wanna see. And that is also what makes porn attractive for me, girls doing everything guys want.

And hard anal can sometimes be painful. It must not be the goal but if you are testing the anal limits of the girls (porn is anal gymnastics for me) it can happen that it is a bit too much.

[dap-addict]

It's basically a linguistic problem.
But I'd never shame a true porn fan for asking for very hard anal.
Its sure not misogynic as long as porn fans are aware that its still humans performing that anal sex for us on set and that these women have to be treated the best way possible, while of course performing the hardest anal sex possible including some pain that may happen.

[pornlover_holland]

It's basically a linguistic problem.
But I'd never shame a true porn fan for asking for very hard anal.
Its sure not misogynic as long as porn fans are aware that its still humans performing that anal sex for us on set and that these women have to be treated the best way possible, while of course performing the hardest anal sex possible including some pain that may happen.

Off course I am aware of this. I highly respect the porn guys and porn girls because it is not an easy job. But they are doing it for our pleasure. They surely know that porn is not about romance and that they have to deliver the kind of action the fans wanna see. And that is not the sex they are mostly having at home
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