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Just came here to say big thanks for you guys! You latest scenes are awesome! The key is simple and you found it - just 4-5 men that WANT AND CAN fuck a woman HARD and INTENSE and ROUGH. And boom - there comes best scenes ever! Just keep the intensity and roughness and you will be on top of the world with litearly any models! Thanks again

alekseich wrote:Just came here to say big thanks for you guys! You latest scenes are awesome! The key is simple and you found it - just 4-5 men that WANT AND CAN fuck a woman HARD and INTENSE and ROUGH. And boom - there comes best scenes ever! Just keep the intensity and roughness and you will be on top of the world with litearly any models! Thanks again

I agree, consistently great scenes, which ones are your favorites so far or recently?

In case Angelo would like to shed some light I repost this from the last released Kristy Black TAP:

dap-addict wrote:

YumYum74 wrote:I would love to honor both their work, as long as I feel it’s fair. And I don’t right now, that’s all.

Same to me!
I just tried to outline the dilemma.
And it makes me sad these days....

Would be interesting to know whether Angelo wasnt alerted the same way we users weren't?
At least AGO was used as an example in closed thread: They seemingly asked a certain price for that Vero/Vinna 4on2 which than suddenly lead to a 35% devaluation of ticket value for all other core studios as well.

cumdump wrote:which ones are your favorites so far or recently?

For me last 30 days it was:
1. Sasha Krey DAPbreakin'
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/133109

2. Alicia (Ukrainian)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/208648

3. Jennifer Mendez re-DAPbreakin'
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/136695


Alicia 4on1 is the hardest scene probably, but I valued novelty effect combined with hard fucking higher.

alekseich wrote:Just came here to say big thanks for you guys! You latest scenes are awesome! The key is simple and you found it - just 4-5 men that WANT AND CAN fuck a woman HARD and INTENSE and ROUGH. And boom - there comes best scenes ever! Just keep the intensity and roughness and you will be on top of the world with litearly any models! Thanks again

Yes. AG is rising the quality constantly. Near to GIO soon. Stories are already better...
Remembers me to the early days of GIO.

Gotta agree, Angelo is on fire!
Much prefer his warm lighting that makes the girls skin look amazing. Really fed up with the stark white colour of Gio and Gonzo.
Girls are generally great, dressed sexy, hard action and good positions.
Could use some more variety of cumshot. Too many cream pie only scenes for me personally. I prefer to mix it up: face, back to her ass then face again

In a very short period of time this studio has become the best in LP . Angelo has assembled a great team and is shooting great DAP and TAP scenes . Great to see Veronica Leal doing DAP again . Any chance of persuading her to do a TAP ? Keep up the good work .

AGO Studio Become on Top. Very Good Scenes, improv the pissing Scene.

Always bodystockings becomes boring.
Scene prices have risen 35-50% for those who pay in tickets, that's crazy. I wait for Angelo to come here and explain what's happening. At the moment I can't support that price rise, no matter how much I like the overall attitude and AGO content.

dap-addict wrote:Always bodystockings becomes boring.
Scene prices have risen 35-50% for those who pay in tickets, that's crazy. I wait for Angelo to come here and explain what's happening. At the moment I can't support that price rise, no matter how much I like the overall attitude and AGO content.

I think it’s pretty clear by now that they don’t care, dap-addict.

They took a gamble to see how far they could go and apparently enough people just hit that ‘buy’ button without even thinking or looking, offsetting any anger longtime customers might have. They don’t have to care about price concerns, customer loyalty, or anything else. Not for someone who has been a customer for ten years like yourself, not for me or anyone else.

Angelo doesn’t care, Giorgio doesn’t, most other studio directors don’t, and the people at PB certainly don’t.

T-h-e-y d-o-n-‘-t c-a-r-e.

Only hope is maybe that so far in April sales now new priced scene is in Top10.

XfreaX and Vira Gold

IMO the best studio currently, also good to see being active on social media. Definitely better than for example NFstudio which is still strugling with quality of content.

Unfortunately we have lost Angelo in front of camera now!!!

Hery guys!

First of all, I would like to thank you all for really hearth warming words! I appreciate it guys, seriously !!
You are the reason why I'm here with my own content. I craved long time for doing that about myself...How i feel, how I want. Don't do things I don't like and don't force my beautiful models to do things they don't like. It was my goal n.1. If the girl doesn't feel confortable with any positions or stuff, simply we skip it. After many years hard work for LP I found out what I like and what I wanna do.

Appologize for low level quality of video, lights and other things initially. I have begun with 2 shitty lights. Didn't know how to adjust camrea properly etc. Now is that better. I fugured out many things, bought new equipment for filming and I have my own studio with 3-4 different corners. I hope also final video and trailers are getting better slowly.

Now to the price:
In fact I didn't increase final price of my videos. When I upload videos, I set still the same price like before. Admins from Pornbox told me, there is different exchange rate for TKT. Inspite of my same price you have to pay more I know, itsn't fair! Basically I have now two options. Set the price lower and make less money and you will have more or less same price. Or set the same price like before but for you expensiver videos, that's what you wrote (20-30% higher price)
I try to find some compromise guys. Believe me, I really don't put my EGO here, just missunderstanding

AngeloGodshack wrote:You are the reason why I'm here with my own content. I craved long time for doing that about myself...How i feel, how I want. Don't do things I don't like and don't force my beautiful models to do things they don't like. It was my goal n.1. If the girl doesn't feel confortable with any positions or stuff, simply we skip it. After many years hard work for LP I found out what I like and what I wanna do.

Very nice to reed this! As a customer it's very difficult to know when a model has been pushed beyond what she would be comfortable with, so it's nice to see that you are actually concerned about your models' well being. I respect this a lot!

AngeloGodshack wrote:Now to the price:
In fact I didn't increase final price of my videos. When I upload videos, I set still the same price like before. Admins from Pornbox told me, there is different exchange rate for TKT. Inspite of my same price you have to pay more I know, itsn't fair! Basically I have now two options. Set the price lower and make less money and you will have more or less same price. Or set the same price like before but for you expensiver videos, that's what you wrote (20-30% higher price)
I try to find some compromise guys. Believe me, I really don't put my EGO here, just missunderstanding

They way xxx explained this to us, is that the conversion rate works both ways. You should now get more dollars in return for each ticket spent on your scenes, so xxx expected the producers to lower their price in dollars to keep the ticket price the same as before.

Let's say that for simplicity's sake you used to get 1 dollar per ticket, but you now get 1.3 dollars per ticket. But since many producers kept their previous dollar price while the ticket price has increased by a factor of 1.3, this means that you are making 1.69 times your previous dollar amount for each scene sold, To mach your earlier ticket price you would have to sell your scenes for 0.769 times your original dollar price. And that would, if xxx is correct, result in the equivalent price and profit that you had before the ticket devaluation.

I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

AngeloGodshack wrote:Now to the price:
In fact I didn't increase final price of my videos. When I upload videos, I set still the same price like before. Admins from Pornbox told me, there is different exchange rate for TKT. Inspite of my same price you have to pay more I know, itsn't fair! Basically I have now two options. Set the price lower and make less money and you will have more or less same price. Or set the same price like before but for you expensiver videos, that's what you wrote (20-30% higher price)
I try to find some compromise guys. Believe me, I really don't put my EGO here, just missunderstanding

Hi Angelo, appreciate your clarification. It really is a big issue; for me and I suspect a lot of others. I can only speak for myself, and regardless of who made this decision about the pricing changes, I cannot support it. I did a quick check and ever since there is this new pricing there have been 11 of your scenes that I would have immediately bought normally. Now I only bought 1 (and only because it was with Mina, the only girl I’d pay almost any amount for).
I’m just one person and maybe others don’t mind as much as I do, but it’s a real shame. Your studio is a breath of fresh air and I truly want to support you. But right now I won’t; it’s just too overpriced at the moment. I realize it’s a difficult situation for you as well, so I hope you find a way to work it out for yourself and your studio.

AngeloGodshack wrote:Hery guys!

First of all, I would like to thank you all for really hearth warming words! I appreciate it guys, seriously !!
You are the reason why I'm here with my own content. I craved long time for doing that about myself...How i feel, how I want. Don't do things I don't like and don't force my beautiful models to do things they don't like. It was my goal n.1. If the girl doesn't feel confortable with any positions or stuff, simply we skip it. After many years hard work for LP I found out what I like and what I wanna do.

Appologize for low level quality of video, lights and other things initially. I have begun with 2 shitty lights. Didn't know how to adjust camrea properly etc. Now is that better. I fugured out many things, bought new equipment for filming and I have my own studio with 3-4 different corners. I hope also final video and trailers are getting better slowly.

Now to the price:
In fact I didn't increase final price of my videos. When I upload videos, I set still the same price like before. Admins from Pornbox told me, there is different exchange rate for TKT. Inspite of my same price you have to pay more I know, itsn't fair! Basically I have now two options. Set the price lower and make less money and you will have more or less same price. Or set the same price like before but for you expensiver videos, that's what you wrote (20-30% higher price)
I try to find some compromise guys. Believe me, I really don't put my EGO here, just missunderstanding

First off, glad to see you in here Angelo, amazing work lately, I hope you continue to keep improving your productions and use new innovative techniques and put your own twist on things. It is always refreshing to have a new elite producer using their knowledge and experience over the years and building a solid foundation of fundamentals but also doing things a little bit differently and putting it all together to produce excellent quality productions. It is nice to know you read our comments and discuss some things in the forum. Your Studio is definitely the best right now as far the best Up and Coming Studio.

Angelo, thanks for finally - after 4 weeks! - coming here and talk to us about ticket prices of AGO scenes!

DPraved wrote:I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

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dap-addict wrote:Angelo, thanks for finally - after 4 weeks! - coming here and talk to us about ticket prices of AGO scenes!

DPraved wrote:I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

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Yeah the Studios/Producers must be getting more, or Pornbox must be getting more, the money has to be going somewhere from the "conversions" if this is the case.

DPraved wrote:
I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

Content creators are NOT getting more $$$ per ticket (FYI in most situations they already get everything...). The content is simply sold at a higher TKT price to better reflect the USD prices they want. They get more money only if the real money spent per scene is higher than before. Not automatically.

They only have to adjust their prices down if they prefer to have everything back as normal : the same income and sales for them and same prices for you as before.

However if they want to increase their prices it's their choice. When you sometimes shoot content at a loss (it happens to everyone) it is of course tempting to raise your prices.

cumdump wrote:

dap-addict wrote:Angelo, thanks for finally - after 4 weeks! - coming here and talk to us about ticket prices of AGO scenes!

DPraved wrote:I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

+ 1

Yeah the Studios/Producers must be getting more, or Pornbox must be getting more, the money has to be going somewhere from the "conversions" if this is the case.

Unfortunatelly, studios/producers are getting same or if they want to keep same price for you, they get even less

So where is that money we pay more going?

xxx wrote:They get more money only if the real money spent per scene is higher than before. Not automatically.

But the real money spent per scene IS higher if user spend 35% more tickets on a scene because each ticket gives them 0,7$ or so. Thus if I payed 7 tickets before, they should have got 4,9$, right? If now I pay 10tkt, they should get 7$, or not?

I don’t understand. We pay more money for our tickets, that is a fact. That has to go somewhere. Angelo says it’s not going to them (i.e. studios), xxx says it is.

I’m completely lost now, and even more convinced I’m doing the right thing by not spending anymore.

YumYum74 wrote:I don’t understand. We pay more money for our tickets, that is a fact. That has to go somewhere. Angelo says it’s not going to them (i.e. studios), xxx says it is.

I’m completely lost now, and even more convinced I’m doing the right thing by not spending anymore.

No you don't pay more money for your tickets. You pay more tickets for the content of the studios that have not changed their prices.

dap-addict wrote:So where is that money we pay more going?

xxx wrote:They get more money only if the real money spent per scene is higher than before. Not automatically.

But the real money spent per scene IS higher if user spend 35% more tickets on a scene because each ticket gives them 0,7$ or so. Thus if I payed 7 tickets before, they should have got 4,9$, right? If now I pay 10tkt, they should get 7$, or not?

xxx, so is "real money spent on a scene" money payed by customers who pay not in tickets but directly in $$? Or is it also spent by customers who pay more tickets? And if both ways please read my example and explain me where that money goes, please!

In that example instead of 4,9$ studios should get 7$. So isn't that more? Do the studios get this difference of 2,1$ or do they not get it?

I don't think this is complicated. All that was said is that studios don't get more $ per ticket, which makes sense given that the cost of tickets to users hasn't changed. Studios WILL though get more money if a scene costs more tickets.

Are Studios able to give any incentives or extras for Studio/Brand Loyalty?

xxx wrote:

DPraved wrote:
I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

Content creators are NOT getting more $$$ per ticket (FYI in most situations they already get everything...). The content is simply sold at a higher TKT price to better reflect the USD prices they want. They get more money only if the real money spent per scene is higher than before. Not automatically.

They only have to adjust their prices down if they prefer to have everything back as normal : the same income and sales for them and same prices for you as before.

However if they want to increase their prices it's their choice. When you sometimes shoot content at a loss (it happens to everyone) it is of course tempting to raise your prices.

Thanks for answering. I clearly confused the issue. I still don't understand how studios get more money when they set the same price in dollars as before while our price in tickets increased by 30%. That's the point that needs explaining I think.

Good evening to all I think I speak also on behalf of other small studies that compared to last year and january I am having a drop in the ratings of the scenes of 40%And it never happened, I'm sorry that the prices of tiket are high but we have experienced that if I lower the prices the evaluation is lower for me, If you don't believe me, I can show the my value of the last scene, I am transparent, i would like to make scene with 5 guys but is risky for us I'm totally sure I will lose the money and is also strange all this...

PAFstudio wrote:Good evening to all I think I speak also on behalf of other small studies that compared to last year and january I am having a drop in the ratings of the scenes of 40%And it never happened, I'm sorry that the prices of tiket are high but we have experienced that if I lower the prices the evaluation is lower for me, If you don't believe me, I can show the my value of the last scene, I am transparent, i would like to make scene with 5 guys but is risky for us I'm totally sure I will lose the money and is also strange all this...

I don't want to bombard this forum thread with business and price talk, rather speak about the content and excellence of AGO's Studio and shooting of scenes, but it seems simply seems tickets have been devalued, the conversions of currency have devalued tickets but also everyone wants more money that is involved in shooting of scenes, it adds up, all this combination likely has to be accounted for, and there is always risk when shooting a scene, there is certain expenses, sometimes justified and sometimes not, for the demand, and how much expenses and costs of production subtracted from the actual revenue of scene, economics and supply and demand, hopefully scenes are profitable or somewhat profitable to justify its creation and everyone wins, consumer/customer as well as producers/Studios and those involved in production of scenes.

Right, producers have to be awarded for their risk they take and I actually hope an wish they can have a good living in Czech Rep.

Therefore I am well prepared to pay 10-15% more because inflation rate is 12% in Czech Rep. But why should I all over a sudden pay 35% more?

Once that issue is getting solved or while its getting solved lets also discuss tech things. But the best studio right now can't be the best if it charges too high prices, right?

DPraved wrote:Thanks for answering. I clearly confused the issue. I still don't understand how studios get more money when they set the same price in dollars as before while our price in tickets increased by 30%. That's the point that needs explaining I think.

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dap-addict wrote:Right, producers have to be awarded for their risk they take and I actually hope an wish they can have a good living in Czech Rep.

Therefore I am well prepared to pay 10-15% more because inflation rate is 12% in Czech Rep. But why should I all over a sudden pay 35% more?

Wow, that's interesting to see inflation in other areas of the World, 12% is extremely high.

I doubt many nation's official inflation figures factor in the costs of hiring porn stars .

On-topic, I just had a look at this year's top selling scenes and it seems that Angelo's studio is absolutely smashing it!

@AngeloGodshack - if you're reading this, thanks for Friday's Maddy Black scene . For my personal preference it's good to see an intense scene like that without DAP.

Please remove the logo, it interferes with watching the video. It was better without him. So, we know your corporate identity. "AGO" one of the best studio. Thanks.

Ultra-Gape wrote:I doubt many nation's official inflation figures factor in the costs of hiring porn stars .

On-topic, I just had a look at this year's top selling scenes and it seems that Angelo's studio is absolutely smashing it!

@AngeloGodshack - if you're reading this, thanks for Friday's Maddy Black scene . For my personal preference it's good to see an intense scene like that without DAP.

My pleasure

gapeland001817 wrote:Please remove the logo, it interferes with watching the video. It was better without him. So, we know your corporate identity. "AGO" one of the best studio. Thanks.

My logo will be not anymore in full video. I'm sorry for that