Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

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Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby Jocke » Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:57 pm

Putin's dictatorship is likely to collapse when the Ukrainian counteroffensive takes back the occupied territories or when the state goes bankrupt.
It seems like China is planning to take back eastern parts of russia which formerly were Chinese. Central Asia is siding with the Chinese so they will switch master from Putin to Xi.
Many of the regions have strong ethnicity and wish to free themselves from Moscow, but are they strong enough or will there be a prolonged civil war?
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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby bubbasaurs » Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:09 am

I dont know about Russia, but I know that here in the US we will break up in smaller regions and have a prolonged Civil War probably starting in 2024 once the democrats just defraud another election to win the White House.
Problem is that, before, that war would be a short one, as we, the right, were the side that had all weapons. Now, democrats and the radical left also have plenty of weapons, and then it will be a bloodbath.
The main question will be when one side (the South, Texas, California and the West Coast, Northeast USA) will start TO NUKE the others. Because, I don't think that Russian breakaway regions will have enough hate against each other to use nukes to kill their own people, but we Americans surely deeply HATE each other to celebrate when nukes fry our former fellow Americans (I know we here in the South will celebrate when New York or California become nuclear BBQ cooked by our proud southern missiles).

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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby Vancouver » Wed Apr 19, 2023 8:54 am

bubbasaurs wrote:I dont know about Russia, but I know that here in the US we will break up in smaller regions and have a prolonged Civil War probably starting in 2024 once the democrats just defraud another election to win the White House.
Problem is that, before, that war would be a short one, as we, the right, were the side that had all weapons. Now, democrats and the radical left also have plenty of weapons, and then it will be a bloodbath.
The main question will be when one side (the South, Texas, California and the West Coast, Northeast USA) will start TO NUKE the others. Because, I don't think that Russian breakaway regions will have enough hate against each other to use nukes to kill their own people, but we Americans surely deeply HATE each other to celebrate when nukes fry our former fellow Americans (I know we here in the South will celebrate when New York or California become nuclear BBQ cooked by our proud southern missiles).


lol

you have no understanding of the US military or nuclear protocols if you think it will break into state run factions and start a civil war against one another.

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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby Dickson_Pizdah » Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:55 am

Vancouver wrote:
bubbasaurs wrote:I dont know about Russia, but I know that here in the US we will break up in smaller regions and have a prolonged Civil War probably starting in 2024 once the democrats just defraud another election to win the White House.
Problem is that, before, that war would be a short one, as we, the right, were the side that had all weapons. Now, democrats and the radical left also have plenty of weapons, and then it will be a bloodbath.
The main question will be when one side (the South, Texas, California and the West Coast, Northeast USA) will start TO NUKE the others. Because, I don't think that Russian breakaway regions will have enough hate against each other to use nukes to kill their own people, but we Americans surely deeply HATE each other to celebrate when nukes fry our former fellow Americans (I know we here in the South will celebrate when New York or California become nuclear BBQ cooked by our proud southern missiles).


lol

you have no understanding of the US military or nuclear protocols if you think it will break into state run factions and start a civil war against one another.


But was bubbasaurs attempting ironic / parodic mode ?

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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby Vancouver » Mon Apr 24, 2023 8:48 am

The most likely outcome at some point is the eastern region of the Ukraine that is majority Russian and has been Russian dominated for a long time, will be ceded to Russia as part of a peace treaty and Russia will pursue relations with NATO and back away from China.

I know with all the rhetoric right now that seems impossible, but that is likely where this will end up. Russia has too many bodies to throw at this to be outright defeated and most NATO countries are drastically cutting back on their Ukraine aid leaving the US holding the bag.

China is also in the throes of massive disaster internally with their crippling demographic problems and inability to feed their own people or supply them with energy without massive importing. They will have so much to deal with on the home front they are not the threat people think they are.

I could be wrong of course, nobody can predict the future. But generally the fanatical outcomes of one side or the other don't happen and it ends up some where in the middle with a more realistic outcome.

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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby isis666xxx » Tue May 02, 2023 5:44 pm

the only way a country with nuclear weapons can fall is after using their nuclear weapons

if russia feels threatened they will start using nuclear weapons
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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby isis666xxx » Thu Jun 01, 2023 3:50 pm

a lot of people think russia wont dare using even small tactic nukes

so u think ukraine will defeat russia + also regain crimea

that will be an extreme defeat, both lose the war & losing crimea

extreme defeat + extreme humiliation

and you think they wont dare to use tactic nukes??

'russia wont use nukes cuz they dont have the balls to use them'

i think if zelensky manages to regain crimea it will be extremely dangerous & russia may use tactic nukes
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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby Alexander-Alexander » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:28 am

I think it wouldn't be in Putin's tenure because he is such a stern president. It's hard to say if Russia without him
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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby bobroguy » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:54 pm

Now russia do exactly as gorilla doing (pounding in own chest like winner by default), however, later will happen exactly same thing like with their moon station N25.
They claim what they have all power & history of ussr, however, they like to forget what ukraine also was part of ussr, and how much ukraine made for overall victory in WW2, still unknown, due to russian propaganda (like mostly russia do it, and they prefer not tell anything about it about other ex ussr countries).
Actually they fighting with themselves (ex ussr slavic people), and putin is kind of bloody alien who made it possibly.
My bet on side of Ukraine.

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Re: Will russia fall apart into smaller regions?

Postby pastaga » Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:52 am

Some parts of Siberia are already unofficially annexed by China...
One day the rest of the country will collapse, but then the situation I'll depend on who emerges after Putin.
But I don't think of a Russian civil War. Russian people is too tame (and brainwashed, and vodka filled).
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