Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[BlueShadow]

I LET Brillbabes and Clara... bwahahahahah

[BlueShadow]

They ask again for her there? 2 months going only in Budapest hotel rooms was not enough? C'mon let her breathe.
Don't worry, I'm sure soon she will come back for some ''private session'' with daddy. But nothing to see for you, sorry.

[BlueShadow]

Bwhahah... they must ask for l'autorisation' to speak...bwahahahah

[robin_reid]

What? Like if Brillbabes need the authorization from him...? What a selfish idiot full of himself this dude.

This agency does, like subordinates, all what he orders to them and all what he wants. Probably he's got them through shady deals that make them more money than porn. That's the reality.

[BlueShadow]

This agency does, like subordinates, all what he orders to them and all what he wants. Probably he's got them through shady deals that make them more money than porn. That's the reality.

I don't know, but for sure saying 'I LET the ''agency'' and the ''model'' set up their schedule' it make no sense to exist, at least in a normal way of working and in a regular and fair business, so, is an idiotic thing to say. Just that.

[BlueShadow]

And I'd say the 'patriarchy wannabe' phrases he uses speak for themselves. Not even need of a comment.

[BlueShadow]

The other evening in a live Rocco had to be there too, he refused to be in chat because the old French hairy dude was also there. He did right.
Stallions don't compete with ponies.

[narciss69]

The other evening in a live Rocco had to be there too, he refused to be in chat because the old French hairy dude was also there. He did right.
Stallions don't compete with ponies.

I don't think this is about competition.W is a toxic person.His toxic aura is same big as his ego is.
I remember when I was young we had a guy nobody liked hím.He always played the smart, the best, and tried to get attention, could'nt accept he was too much, so he just pushed more and more.Nobody invited him to parties, but he didn't care he just come.You went away from hím, he just followed you. Where he appeared, was the end of the party and fun.
I watched this live you talk about, and was the same.Started with Nina Angel ,Kitana Lure, and Rocco was already online ready, but when heard W will arrive, hé just send a message telling he wont take part because of W, so he cut the line. I could feel on the 2 models the same, they just turned down when W get connected.Very soon remain only W alone bashing everybody.First Rocco, than Lp, and doing his own promotion.
I understand why Rocco did this way.Smartest thing you can do, is just to go away...

[dap-addict]

If it wasnt so many girls suffering, being humiliated by him or his rich friends in Paris and elsewhere and many of them mentally for the rest of their life by his scheme, that Bp lier APE would just be a psychological case study of sb who climbed very high from almost nowhere but couldn't cope with changing times. An interesting case, even.

I hope your teenage friend didnt and still doenst create so much collateral damage by such mind-set.
In a situation of fame, power and connections like with lier APE such mind-set and character is toxic.

Maybe one reason more to just ignore him, but warn girls of him. Really do best to explain them whats at stake!

[BlueShadow]

The other evening in a live Rocco had to be there too, he refused to be in chat because the old French hairy dude was also there. He did right.
Stallions don't compete with ponies.

I don't think this is about competition.W is a toxic person.His toxic aura is same big as his ego is.
I remember when I was young we had a guy nobody liked hím.He always played the smart, the best, and tried to get attention, could'nt accept he was too much, so he just pushed more and more.Nobody invited him to parties, but he didn't care he just come.You went away from hím, he just followed you. Where he appeared, was the end of the party and fun.
I watched this live you talk about, and was the same.Started with Nina Angel ,Kitana Lure, and Rocco was already online ready, but when heard W will arrive, hé just send a message telling he wont take part because of W, so he cut the line. I could feel on the 2 models the same, they just turned down when W get connected.Very soon remain only W alone bashing everybody.First Rocco, than Lp, and doing his own promotion.
I understand why Rocco did this way.Smartest thing you can do, is just to go away...

You are right, in the end he is smarter, he know that the best way to deal with a narcissist is to leave him talking alone.

But they have a past together and is also business, here, for us is just entertainment

[BlueShadow]

Started with Nina Angel ,Kitana Lure, and Rocco was already online ready, but when heard W will arrive, I could feel on the 2 models the same, they just turned down when W get connected.Very soon remain only W alone bashing everybody.First Rocco, than Lp, and doing his own promotion.
I understand why Rocco did this way.Smartest thing you can do, is just to go away...

''Kitana begins to master French ...
I took part in a show on a Youtube channel @megamaxytb last night (there were some pretty funny moments where Rocco sprawled out badly in my opinion but that's just a personal opinion) and the beautiful Russian was even cute if at times she knowingly or unconsciously loses her memory regarding sperm
PW''


And he also make fun of Kitana... which not mention that she takeded his sperm.
One minute of silence for his ego.

They should create another word, this goes beyond narcissism and egocentrism. XD


PS
Maybe she forgot for real...like many newbies that after did anal and DP in those hotel rooms with him they say that they are not willing to do anal

[narciss69]

''Kitana begins to master French ...
I took part in a show on a Youtube channel @megamaxytb last night (there were some pretty funny moments where Rocco sprawled out badly in my opinion but that's just a personal opinion) and the beautiful Russian was even cute if at times she knowingly or unconsciously loses her memory regarding sperm
PW''


And he also make fun of Kitana... which not mention that she takeded his sperm.
One minute of silence for his ego.

They should create another word, this goes beyond narcissism and egocentrism. XD


PS
Maybe she forgot for real...like many newbies that after did anal and DP in those hotel rooms with him they say that they are not willing to do anal

And he still continue to make fun and use the opportunity to shine instead of feel shame.
Pointed ön Rocco he ask to be paid for an interview when probably he would even pay to get some high public attention.
Pointed on Rocco he asked money from his porn academy studs willing to learn how to "fuck in porn", while he ask money from website members for not even deliver the promised scene continuations for years.Let them beg and pay several times for what they'll never get.
Accusing Rocco in big public of pimping,while " he asked money from guys for fucking porn girls" it's also an accusation of escorting of those many models were taking part of that porn academy project.
Finally he still does'nt understand why Rocco turns it's back to him...
I don't know where in a forum I've read, or where did I heard of a website kept alive by couple VIP members they have the choice to fuck for free porngirls in exchange for their financial support....
I would only point on my opinion,as there for me is'nt difference between a girlfriend fucks for the goods she get from a dude, or an escort she's getting paid in cash for her services.
Both are same.
And nothing wrong with, until they do a good service.

[BlueShadow]

Why does he find it so funny? Blocking newbies with "exclusive jobs" is what he tries to do every time. Weird when it happens to opposite huh?
At least there is a regular contract there, no manipulations and shady agreements with an agency.

[BlueShadow]

And why he show that screen? After 10-15 minutes the others went out and remained him from 4h 40m to the end. Is a big word ''OUR time''
The reality is this:


Him that talk alone for 2 hrs. XD

[narciss69]

Why others would stay online? It's same like with his scenes.There you go to watch the girls, and get a big hairy ass covering the screen, here you go the same for others, and everybody leave while his bighead is covering the screen and you van hear only the bullshit bashing of others and the self promotion already boring he does non stop.
Btw.he mention Kira Queen who showed up next to Kitana for less of 10 seconds, and said no one word out of hello.
He was only steal the show.

[narciss69]

Oooops!
I guess that "someone " was a VIP member of his website, and got the choice to fall in love with the model...
Looks like this business model of selling the videos in private explaining all.
Is'nt said, but it's logic.

[dap-addict]

Looks like this business model of selling the videos in private explaining all.
Is'nt said, but it's logic.

Now thats new to me. Never thought about such possibility, naive as I may be.
How is it in general with model releases they sign, doenst it include publication of the scene? Now what is publication? If its selling it exclusively to 1 exclusive client thats a new business model indeed, especially for sb with so many high level contacts.

It all comes down to porn entertainment industry turned up-side down by HIM.
And than basically its all about fame, sex and power in the worst edition, completely alienating concepts of acting and publicity. Website traffic can be measured, does he have really no traffic on his? Or can he buy those numbers as well?

[narciss69]

Looks like this business model of selling the videos in private explaining all.
Is'nt said, but it's logic.

Now thats new to me. Never thought about such possibility, naive as I may be.
How is it in general with model releases they sign, doenst it include publication of the scene? Now what is publication? If its selling it exclusively to 1 exclusive client thats a new business model indeed, especially for sb with so many high level contacts.

It all comes down to porn entertainment industry turned up-side down by HIM.

I guess when doing the casting, models they sign a model release, they don't know what they sign.Basically they're from that moment in his trap (web).Whatever he recorded, or will record in future he can use, reuse, edit, reedit the way he wish, sale, publish as he wish.The date of the signing can eventually make shorter the time frame of his possibilities with the records, in the case when there is the date written on the model release at the time of the signing.I guess is'nt.
Big changes of the model's look, ( tatoes, implants,ezc) can also alterate the value of the original modeltrelease.The model need to be recalled for a new scene ( at least an interview), to have a second fresh model release signed. Almost escaped from the web,and again back.
Model releases should be signed for that only one recorded content was done that day....
I'm curious if there is any model can show a model release she signed ? I don't think.

[BlueShadow]

I don't understand why the fact that if she will work with other productions people should think that they are no longer in friendship... XD And why worrying so much (losing control on her?)... ''justifies'' a drama... before a drama happens...

One thing is sure, his narcissism is unbeatable.


PS
He shouldn't worry... she will do less of what she did for him, no more anal, DP from now on... Brillshit know what kind of booking to accept for her, as agreed... he LET Clara and Brillshit to set up THEIR schedule as he said... yes, sure . Lets say, their schedule...with some... '' advice '' from godfather. ''I'm going to make them an offer they can't refuse'' LOL

[avanfurwet]

Looks like this business model of selling the videos in private explaining all.
Is'nt said, but it's logic.

Now thats new to me. Never thought about such possibility, naive as I may be.
How is it in general with model releases they sign, doenst it include publication of the scene? Now what is publication? If its selling it exclusively to 1 exclusive client thats a new business model indeed, especially for sb with so many high level contacts.

It all comes down to porn entertainment industry turned up-side down by HIM.
And than basically its all about fame, sex and power in the worst edition, completely alienating concepts of acting and publicity. Website traffic can be measured, does he have really no traffic on his? Or can he buy those numbers as well?

As best I understand it, model releases should always be dated for legal reasons. The model release protects the producer not the model.
And standard model release wording pretty much allows the producer to do what they like with the images they own. Publish, not publish, sell on to others, etc.
IMO probably models mostly don't read or understand the model release documents, but would generally understand that in exchange for their fee they are signing away any claim to control over their image.
For the models, their only real comfort would derive from the reputation and past behaviour of the producer. FWIW.

It's not impossible that PW sold some of his casting video(s) to others. Doesn't look like a business model. More like random opportunism.

It's not impossible that PW made up the whole story about "sold the initiation for a huge amount of money" to confect a drama/mystery and inflate his own ego as usual.

IDK how much traffic PW's websites get. Without bothering to look or even think about it, I'd guess it's more than enough to cover costs, and enable him to indulge his lifestyle of hiring girls for sex and playing mind games with them, while writing stories on his [spam] account and forum to promote himself as a big-shot producer and "cool guy" to inflate his ego. Maybe he also has some connection to escort businesses, IDK.

[Iddaoeeok]

Maybe he also has some connection to escort businesses, IDK.

Like anyone actually believes PW makes his money from his website.

[BlueShadow]

IMO probably models mostly don't read or understand the model release documents, but would generally understand that in exchange for their fee they are signing away any

Also because mostly are not even ''models''...just newbies, that don't know nothing about how this business works, sent there by some greedy agencies (one in particular) to get as much money out as possible.
And then block them (and there is nothing written or a regular contract, just shady deals that some ''models'' (if you want use this term), not even know, others know, 'cause besides having the whore mentality, they are also stupid) for real productions for pleasing the best client (making them do vaginal only, until, (if the girl are lucky enough to survive the competition, but 90% is retired after 2-3 months) some stupid production will offer big money for a FIRST anal...that isn't a first anal XD Only in EU porn you see this idiocy, but in the meantime some girls can earn the real money selling their asshole... sending them to meet some of his influential friends in Paris.
then... waiting for other newbies to exploit and play the same tricks. Some fall, some not. No real model or smart girl would do a first anal there on their own will, unless recommended by an agency they trust (fake promises, big money), but which make the interests of others.

[robin_reid]

IMO probably models mostly don't read or understand the model release documents, but would generally understand that in exchange for their fee they are signing away any

Also because mostly are not even ''models''...just newbies, that don't know nothing about how this business works, sent there by some greedy agencies (one in particular) to get as much money out as possible.
And then block them (and there is nothing written or a regular contract, just shady deals that some ''models'' (if you want use this term), not even know, others know, 'cause besides having the whore mentality, they are also stupid) for real productions for pleasing the best client (making them do vaginal only, until, (if the girl are lucky enough to survive the competition, but 90% is retired after 2-3 months) some stupid production will offer big money for a FIRST anal...that isn't a first anal XD Only in EU porn you see this idiocy, but in the meantime some girls can earn the real money selling their asshole... sending them to meet some of his influential friends in Paris.
then... waiting for other newbies to exploit and play the same tricks. Some fall, some not. No real model or smart girl would do a first anal there on their own will, unless recommended by an agency they trust (fake promises, big money), but which make the interests of others.

Sometimes this agency don’t even recommend first anal with him to the models, what they do is the old trick by sending them to that payed interview (as it is only an interview it does not matter if models did put no anal or no old men on the agency form) then Woodman does the rest.

[narciss69]

and there is nothing written or a regular contract, just shady deals that some ''models''others know, 'cause besides having the whore mentality, in the meantime some girls can earn the real money selling their asshole... sending them to meet some of his influential friends in Paris.

Sometimes this agency don’t even recommend first anal with him to the models, what they do is the old trick by sending them to that payed interview (as it is only an interview it does not matter if models did put no anal or no old men on the agency form) then Woodman does the rest.

[narciss69]

and there is nothing written or a regular contract, just shady deals that some ''models''others know, 'cause besides having the whore mentality, in the meantime some girls can earn the real money selling their asshole... sending them to meet some of his influential friends in Paris.

Sometimes this agency don’t even recommend first anal with him to the models, what they do is the old trick by sending them to that payed interview (as it is only an interview it does not matter if models did put no anal or no old men on the agency form) then Woodman does the rest.

Does it count what agency tells to models? I think they know why they send there the models, they're hand in hand with W. Maybe telling them the truth before, risk to just lose the opportunity on earning money... Agents need someone to do that job, to encourage, and make that first step with newbies.They should do, instead of sending girls for hím. Being first to theese young minded girls, it's a big advantage anyway, obviously he has'em under control until they don't meet someone better to trust.
Someone fucks'em better ( Rocco, or Robin Reid ), pays'em more.Takes time until they meet enough ppl, can ser what teally happen around'em.... couple meetings with the candyman ,and they're already in híd web, hé already has "something" recorded, he can use to convince them follow his rules.
This is why i could imagine a kind of business.model before mentioned.
Needs the rich influential guys they pay and when some of them fall in love they pay more to clean the shit around theese girls.
Until W can say " I have my video is'nt published yet, but should bring me 150K next year" .....
And yes, until ppl believe hé really makes big momey from his website, they will pay hím for his silence.
No other reason why to keep 4 so long, so many scenes are'nt released. This is against beneficial rules. No value after some time.But keeps value for him....
By another point of view, must be probably connected to Escort business.I could imagine exactly, as Blue wrote a " Secret group of high influential and rich " ppl and W be their guy to deliver pussy.( Sorry- ass wide open enough submissive sluts) could show up ás " Pretty women" in case.
Some they have to even learn to speak french....
Btw I know a guy he does some kind of business, of finding beauties for ruch friends, they marry and after couple years when divorce the girls just get half of rich guys money.But he deals with beauty contestants, no way girls connected to porn.Australia is a paradise for golddigger girls and this kind of shady deals.

[BlueShadow]

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[robin_reid]

Usually producers/directors book the models and shoot what we have to shoot and that's it. After the shooting we say thanks and goodbye to the model. I always thought that who build the career of the models, who gives the advices, recommendations on what to do or not to do etc etc was the agency, but I was wrong, here the agent is Woodman and the so called agency is just his puppet.

[narciss69]

I continue my toughts based on the lineup I've begun before.
Let's think about a group of ppl they're in seek for fresh and not much used girls are graduated by W as submissive sluts, ready to be fucked in all their holes, do rimjob, drink piss, and even eat shit if it's the case.But no need for porn stars, no need for girls are too much into this adult business, or escorting....no need to be smart, drink, or take drugs... while theese are rules.
Since they're reliable, under the control of their contact person, are allowed to be the companions of theese group members when they need'em.
Another thing just come to my mind...
Is up there on YouTube a video of W with 50 girls in Cannes at a Film Festival time some years ago.
Why he went there to show up with 50 young fresh girls? What the hell he promoted there?
The upcoming website he started 5 years later?
I don't know, but many things are strange around hím...

[BlueShadow]

So.... what happened here? Anyone?

What is that thing? I haven't talked to Juliana in years. Our last conversaion was not hateful, I just told her she should not accept that one of her client (Woodman) does everything to cut her other clients.

As for the piracy, as usual with Woodman it's a big fat lie : he knows damn well that we are excellent in that domain because his content is automatically scanned and blocked immediately after it is uploaded (you can try and see for yourself : it won't go through). This is a free service that very very few sites provide (maybe 10 out of 100,000). You may end up seeing a couple pirated clips here and there : that's because he didn't provide the originals to protect them.

By the way, I should point out that HE IS PIRATING our PRIVATE CASTINGS content. Fucking huge hypocrite piece of trash.

I wondered already.
If you watch that scene we can all see Arwen nodding to almost anything P. says about "the circus".
I just wonder what her take is on this all.

Her take is that she loved working for us. That was her real, immediate feedback when she was around. Whatever was claimed later is just BS.

17 pages. why does this creature get so much attention on this forum

"...toxic people don’t argue with you, they essentially argue with themselves and you become privy to their long, draining monologues. They thrive off the drama and they live for it. Each and every time you attempt to provide a point that counters their ridiculous assertions, you feed them supply." (Arabi)

Like a certain fat orange politician, he can't survive without enemies. People make the mistake of taking him seriously and fact-check his ridiculous lies, which just excites him to invent more fake stories to inflate himself and insult everyone else. People take the bait and he gets the drama and attention he craves to reassure himself that he's relevant. Without the oxygen of self-publicity these frauds would shrivel up and perish.

It's only relevant here because his obsessive lying and manipulations can mislead and distract impressionable young models from making their own career and life decisions.

Manipulates them by creating misunderstandings and spreading false rumors to exploit the situation. It is not the first time, it has happened in the past and it won't be the last.




PS
See what happened to Empatic Models.
Brillshit years ago could also have gone the same way, but gradually it became more and more like some sort of a sect.
You nevertheless hear stories of agencies that are actually hiding something else, it happens in the world of fashion, television productions... movies... I don't even dare imagine in porn.

[BlueShadow]

And where is the news? The news would be if she did anal with another real production XD
In fact, the news would be if he had worked with someone other than him, just hanging out in hotels with old rich men. Probably the family will already have gotten used to the idea...

[narciss69]

At least she knows now why she had to go at the dentistry.To can perform a perfect rim job.

[BlueShadow]

At least she knows now why she had to go at the dentistry.To can perform a perfect rim job.

LOL

[BlueShadow]

Usually producers/directors book the models and shoot what we have to shoot and that's it. After the shooting we say thanks and goodbye to the model. I always thought that who build the career of the models, who gives the advices, recommendations on what to do or not to do etc etc was the agency, but I was wrong, here the agent is Woodman and the so called agency is just his puppet.

I continue my toughts based on the lineup I've begun before.
Let's think about a group of ppl they're in seek for fresh and not much used girls are graduated by W as submissive sluts, ready to be fucked in all their holes, do rimjob, drink piss, and even eat shit if it's the case.But no need for porn stars, no need for girls are too much into this adult business, or escorting....no need to be smart, drink, or take drugs... while theese are rules.
Since they're reliable, under the control of their contact person, are allowed to be the companions of theese group members when they need'em.
Another thing just come to my mind...
Is up there on YouTube a video of W with 50 girls in Cannes at a Film Festival time some years ago.
Why he went there to show up with 50 young fresh girls? What the hell he promoted there?
The upcoming website he started 5 years later?
I don't know, but many things are strange around hím...

It is a system, a proven system. In some aspects, looking at the level of manipulation of some girls, even disturbing.

[narciss69]

I always thought that who build the career of the models, who gives the advices, recommendations on what to do or not to do etc etc was the agency, but I was wrong, here the agent is Woodman and the so called agency is just his puppet.

It is a system, a proven system. In some aspects, looking at the level of manipulation of some girls, even disturbing.

In conclusion W is more an agent than producer.Question remain only for what kind of works, out of those private self enjoyment meetings?
From what we know, until now the virgin model learned to do anal, what's a must theese days in porn.She must train her tight pussy,and ass to can perform dp, and she learned the most important performance - tó lick the ass ( rimjob). If she does this well, she can get whatever she wish from ppl like W is.After rimjob, always comes the restaurant, and the shopping.
When rimjob is after the restaurant, well, not many New things to learn anymore.I suppose she already learned accidentaly to drink pee, when was taking the shower and grandpa just come in to record a last quick blowjob, because the cumshot in the mouth was missing...
Soon she will be perfectly formatted to be sent for his clients...
Good luck (lick) to her !

[trinity]

did someone watch this casting when girl bleeda from her ass?

[BlueShadow]

After 2 days he was still talking on the propaganda forum. Any normal producer wouldn't need to talk about it. But he needs drama. And speak bad of others.





In the meantime Rocco with real stallions. (That don't run with ponies.)

[BlueShadow]

After all the harsh words and offense he said to her on his forum (the usual things when a girl refuse to play under his rules)... she's back there ... LOL
How a girl can be so much without spine. I know that she need money and to work (she decide to move from her other...business)...but... no other option to go in others place?


Oh...I was forgetting...

Her first sex on camera. Yes, sure.






Liar.

Feed the members






PS
She looks like a tranny...
Look at the good grand-father XD

[BlueShadow]

just for completeness of information, the scene is from 1 year ago.


Now find the liar, her, or him.
Or both. Sure not me LOL

[robin_reid]

On the first meeting seems that the agent, or whoever that sent her to him, did not know or forgot to advice this model in advance about to: “try to be as nice and friendly as possible with Pierre, smile to him, do good job etc etc and you will get extra payment from him and not be send back to home”

[narciss69]

On the first meeting seems that the agent, or whoever that sent her to him, did not know or forgot to advice this model in advance about to: “try to be as nice and friendly as possible with Pierre, smile to him, do good job etc etc and you will get extra payment from him and not be send back to home”

No rim job, no good job.