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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:09 am

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Existential need for the chicken to explain he was first before the egg :)
Hey dude, slow down a bit your ego.
Be serious.Not you make porn Star career for girls.Those girls they do anal for you first ,they make career for you.
I would better say, they keep you alive in the xbiz.
Why you are pushing so much to get them first, or making it look like you have got them first?
1. You need to get them until they are cheap, and enough naive to be manipulated, and abused by you.
2.After meeting others, more professional porn productions, they would'nt even meet you, just in case If you would pay them triple of what you pay them at a first time meeting.
3.Smart girls should do first anal for your professional competitors, with delayed release of the scenes, then do the fake first timer scenes for you in case you pay them good, then just publish the real, and professional first anal scenes.This way you would be obliged somehow to publish yours as well, and not wait for years...


I said it. Those that do first anal/DP there and then holding back just to make earn money for a producer (and a complice agency) without even a regular contract for them are smart... ? No, they are naive.
Look instead what happen with already estabilished porn model or the smart one that do first DP there... (Patty Michova for instance) for sure they are not willing to wait for him for no reason and just think to work. If you have the first DP or whatever... his fault if something came online before, why a model should be accused? Where is the exclusive contract? LOL
The newbie are easy to manipulate for someone that know how to fill the mind with words. Promising of excellent earning if they wait (like if all the girls can earn 5000 for a first anal, but also in that case the earning in long terms are not so vantageous) And with accomplice agency that do the tricks not mentioning the anal availability for the model.And easy ''stolen'' exclusive from a model if the model retire soon, as happens in the majority of the cases.

And then, what it means 'it shows I launch a porn star career'? Like if the girls really care for who they begin, a production worth another. If he can say that, it's only because agency sent first the new girl there, 'cause they know that he is the one that pay good for a first time. And, again, it's just a matter of probability, if 100 start there can happen that 10% become popular (and with that 10% can feed the stories to the new girls) But how many that started there are disappeared? Much more. He build nothing, only his ego and stories to feed to someone.
People are always ready to mention the good thing, hey, she started with me! This when a girl become a succesfull pornstar... but when they become noone? I understand that they have to maintain an image, but facts are different.
Now the Julmodels girls no longer start their '' career '' in some hotel room... yet I don't think they have any problems becoming popular and having a good career. And they can also have a real contract, with a real production.

May Thai, Taylee Wood, Polina Maxim (just to name a few) started on LP and become popular, and? It depend on the model not for who they started. And I don't think Giorgio Grandi, LP or whatever, go in every forum to say, hey, she started with me!! I'm the best! XD

Holding back on a 'sexual practice' without guarantees of a future income and a contract (a really smart thing to do, yes....) benefit only the producer, not the model, not the potential fan.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:11 am

the first page with the last 20 casting are a good example of the situation:

-7 are not new in porn and not even first anal or DP (Sydney Love,Barbie Esm, Scarlet Rebel, Bella Angel, Lya Missy, Clara Mia, Paola Hard)
-8 worked only in Budapest hotel rooms (not builded much until now...XD ) 5 of them COMPLETELY disappeared (Harley Quinno, Amy Drum, Mia Trejsi, Bianka Benson, Bella Green...so, potentially 5 anal exclusive...just because they are disappeared, who know why... but for sure they have not builded up a career... )
-1 started there but did already another anal (Alyssia Bounty, good girl, probably she is the only real adult model among the last 20 casting, and the fact that she is not with brillshit and the fact that she did already an anal it's a proof, but she deserve more popularity for sure)
-1 is retired, so anal exclusive... just because she is retired (Bambi Silk)
-1 is a casting of 14 years ago...
-1 did all for the competitors and among the last 20 casting she is the one that work the most right now (Isabella De Laa).
-1 is called Lylita... she did first porn at 18, same day of her birthday, (the younger they are, the more excited he gets...but ok...) but I definitely don't think she is a normal girl ... well, (apart that a 12 years old she played with dildo) instead of celebrating her 18th birthday with friends or family, she prefers to go to a hotel room with a hairy old man... another girl with daddy issues...

So, real exclusive from girls that have a succesfull career without doing other anal/DP for others are less and less.
And the situation is worse if you consider only the last 20 hard casting, the models with anal exclusivity still in activity or that has become popular are 0 on 20.
The only real exclusive with a popular model is Vanessa Decker, (retired but at least with some popularity in the biz.) All the others or are retired after few months, so, without building nothing... or worked only there and then do [spam], not real productions, or are not exclusive at all, like Anna De Ville, Isabella Deltore, Keira Flow etc.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:25 am

It’s not where you start, it’s where you finish.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby grey00owl » Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:12 am

narciss69 wrote:
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Existential need for the chicken to explain he was first before the egg :)
Hey dude, slow down a bit your ego.
Be serious.Not you make porn Star career for girls.Those girls they do anal for you first ,they make career for you.
I would better say, they keep you alive in the xbiz.
Why you are pushing so much to get them first, or making it look like you have got them first?
1. You need to get them until they are cheap, and enough naive to be manipulated, and abused by you.
2.After meeting others, more professional porn productions, they would'nt even meet you, just in case If you would pay them triple of what you pay them at a first time meeting.
3.Smart girls should do first anal for your professional competitors, with delayed release of the scenes, then do the fake first timer scenes for you in case you pay them good, then just publish the real, and professional first anal scenes.This way you would be obliged somehow to publish yours as well, and not wait for years...

Absolutely annoying to read that Woodman's comment.
The deepest expression of narcissism.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:55 am

BlueShadow wrote:-1 started there but did already another anal (Alyssia Bounty, good girl, probably she is the only real adult model among the last 20 casting, and the fact that she is not with brillshit and the fact that she did already an anal it's a proof, but she deserve more popularity for sure)

She is with Sandysmodels and the agency already offered to me, on her profile she is available for bga and pee.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby narciss69 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:42 am

Playing the role of the "Godfather of porn", but acting like old time pimps, by promising the moon, while hold back models from building career. Hold back agents from making working their models. Explaining day by day lose of time and money it is the secret of being rewarded...
When we have to live fast, because in this competition we can easy run out of money, and time, he push models are ready to become sprinter, to run marathon.
He takes care only of his own pocket and his belly be full.Become the" Brake " of porn, investing as much money and time he can into the acting this role.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby narciss69 » Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:23 pm

Do I have a questions ? How does this work with the model releases ?
I've heard most of models does'nt speak english at all, but they sign model releases are written in english. Is this legal official ? When dealing with someone like this persona, can be absurdity.
Czech police had issues with this production under investigation now, how the hell this man from the wood always escape ? Officials in theese eastern european countries they never ask him show up his official paperwork behind his assfucking hotel room seances ?

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:55 pm

The papers have copies in more language. And all the copies must be signed.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:07 pm

Btw the "tricks" are before, and after the sign.
Dealing shady exlusives with agency, that not mention anal availabilty on purpose. And of course others producers not even know.
Some newbie are even unaware and don't care, too naive they trust brillshit and the woman behind, some others are convinced that holding back is good, instead (on the long run) they hold back just to push business of others. And in the mean time they earn nothing, since there is no contract, only words and promises of great income.
Other are too smart and don't fucking care of what some random old producer say. They think about themself. And work more.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:31 pm

robin_reid wrote:
BlueShadow wrote:-1 started there but did already another anal (Alyssia Bounty, good girl, probably she is the only real adult model among the last 20 casting, and the fact that she is not with brillshit and the fact that she did already an anal it's a proof, but she deserve more popularity for sure)

She is with Sandysmodels and the agency already offered to me, on her profile she is available for bga and pee.

Yep.
But when you see girls that do everything in the first scene and then sent to Brillshit that not mention the bga availability you can only laugh. XD



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More things an adult model do, more potential work and bookings.
But in my logic world. :)
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby narciss69 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:41 am

:o :o
BlueShadow wrote:The papers have copies in more language. And all the copies must be signed.

Are saying that models they sign the model releases in english and in their language of the countries they are from ? I heard they just wrote on an english version in their language,that they speak english, they understood all is written, and nothing happened against their will.
I know from couple of models they did the casting, but didn't wanted do more ( without any sexual intercourse), he told them, nothing will be published, never, and he was asking them to write on the release they are adults, and nothing happened against their will.
Problem was in all cases, that later the interviews were published, without their "real" consent. They were tricked, and more of it, he was talking about them,like If he was fuck them...obviously he never published more out of the interviews, but the girls they had troubles later on.
Doing this with girls they would never agree to appear connected to him, there are no more questions on about what can happen with models they already have done porn.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby narciss69 » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:43 am

:o :o
BlueShadow wrote:The papers have copies in more language. And all the copies must be signed.

Are saying that models they sign the model releases in english and in their language of the countries they are from ? I heard they just wrote on an english version in their language,that they speak english, they understood all is written, and nothing happened against their will.
I know from couple of models they did the casting, but didn't wanted do more ( without any sexual intercourse), he told them, nothing will be published, never, and he was asking them to write on the release they are adults, and nothing happened against their will.
Problem was in all cases, that later the interviews were published, without their "real" consent. They were tricked, and more of it, he was talking about them,like If he was fuck them...obviously he never published more out of the interviews, but the girls they had troubles later on.
Doing this with girls they would never agree to appear connected to him, there are no more questions on about what can happen with models they already have done porn.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:50 pm

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My feeling concerning what I call the "grain" of the image on the sets of Pw is that anyway the girls are much more beautiful, sexy, real therefore desirable ... often I tell myself that the girls who pass in the hands of Pw are much more beautiful and desirable quite simply because we feel that Pw loves girls and also likes to highlight them, to sublimate them. The comparison of the two images above is very speaking, the same girl and yet not the same beauty, yet in the same room ...

for me, without talking about sex and / or sexual practices (anal, dp ...), there is obviously a "woodman touch" in terms of pure visual, as there could have been a " lubitsch touch "for cinephiles



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bwahah...uhm... yes, certainly the Limpman videos can be compared to those of Tushy / Vixen / Blacked etc...


''highlight them, to sublimate them.''
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I posted the one with less shit, I don't want to throw up...



Here Liza Billberry after she ate her own shit. Look how she is highlighted, real...desiderable... after this level of shooting she can only get worse,is the top.
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We can see how he sublimate them
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And who would not be genuinely fascinated by this sublime view.
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Which model wouldn't want to be higlighted and sublimated with this great level of production. :rolleyes: Other directors should learn how to emphasize a girl's beauty from him. :D



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Maybe this tango75 he's a longtime fan, a fanboy or maybe he's just blind, but the days of Private's medium to big budget movies are long gone. Ok that tastes are tastes, nothing wrong, but I believe that at some point we have to deal with what is objective. But even without disturbing that period, it doesn't take much to visually beat what he produces today.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sarsastrid » Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:22 pm

All the Woodman bashing aside here I must admit that a lot of his scenes are far more better in actual anal fucking than shown here.
Let's face it all we get here is just 5 to 10 seconds of anal and most of it not even really balls deep.

I ran into this scene for example and the intensity, strokes and duration are all great:

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:54 pm

Bashing? You don't need to bash anything when someone say that the scene of Limpman and Tushy/Blacked are visually the same level or even superior. What they do are completely different, simply different style, incomparable.
The beauty of the girls is enhanced and "sublimated" in Vixen productions, then we can say that they are more "edulcorated" scenes, but this is snother story, one cannot expect anything other by a "glamour" production after all.

I'm not saying that one is better than the other, they are simply different, like comparing a photoshoot for Maxim with some paparazzi photos on Bild. The comparison makes no sense. But what you want expect by a member of that site...
To say that in Limpman's scenes beauty is "sublimated" is laughable. And not only visually, but also for the contents, different from what Vixen do.
Maybe for someone it is ok to combine dirty ass to mouth with the sublime. But that's not the first adjective I would use ...



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And BTW 5-10 seconds of anal? What are you talking about? XD
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sarsastrid » Sat Aug 22, 2020 4:25 pm

BlueShadow wrote:Bashing? You don't need to bash anything when someone say that the scene of Limpman and Tushy/Blacked are visually the same level or even superior. What they do are completely different, simply different style, incomparable.
The beauty of the girls is enhanced and "sublimated" in Vixen productions, then we can say that they are more "edulcorated" scenes, but this is snother story, one cannot expect anything other by a "glamour" production after all.

I'm not saying that one is better than the other, they are simply different, like comparing a photoshoot for Maxim with some paparazzi photos on Bild. The comparison makes no sense. But what you want expect by a member of that site...
To say that in Limpman's scenes beauty is "sublimated" is laughable. And not only visually, but also for the contents, different from what Vixen do.
Maybe for someone it is ok to combine dirty ass to mouth with the sublime. But that's not the first adjective I would use ...



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And BTW 5-10 seconds of anal? What are you talking about? XD


I'm talking of 10 seconds of fucking per turn we hardly see any longer than that now do we? I've said this many times before by now and I keep wondering: why aren't the guys able to fuck for longer than 10 seconds straight??? Which brings me to my next question immediately: HOW on EARTH is a girl supposed to show that she's enjoying the fucking as after 10 seconds the guy pulls out to be replaced by the next. Doesn't makes sense. So all these 5 on 1, 10 on 1 or 15 on 1 or whatever the f... ever some dudes are proposing here all the time -> I don't get it.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:16 pm

I'm not a fan of group scene neither, for me 1 on 1 always the best (maximum I can stand 3 on 1 with the model that I really like, more for me become almost unwatchable).
But 5 on 1 etc are not the only contents here you know... even if it is the majority of the scenes because they are the ones that sell the most.

Although this month's top best seller is a 1on1 scene. :D
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sarsastrid » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:40 pm

BlueShadow wrote:I'm not a fan of group scene neither, for me 1 on 1 always the best (maximum I can stand 3 on 1 with the model that I really like, more for me become almost unwatchable).
But 5 on 1 etc are not the only contents here you know... even if it is the majority of the scenes because they are the ones that sell the most.

Although this month's top best seller is a 1on1 scene. :D


Even in 1 on 1 scenes a fucking turn never lasts a full minute.
I don't know if it's the guy who can't hold out that long or that stupid gape I've never seen a girl come from that I don't know man.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby avanfurwet » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:53 am

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Seems like a narcissistic delusion for pw to pretend he is a plucky "competitor" to WGCZ.

More like a fly buzzing around a lion's arse. Maybe a bit irritating, but not exactly a contender for king of the jungle.


And I thought the industry trend was towards smaller independent producers making content to sell on various platforms.

So the future king of the jungle is likely to be whoever controls the dominant platform, like a Google or a Facebook of porn.

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Postby BlueShadow » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:49 pm

I will put this here, just to show again what they always do and how subtle a person can be:
until they can pull the strings in their favor... they are all good and kind ... then later ready to use harsh words and spread LIES.

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She went in Prague and now not sure if she want to continue porn...
What a LIAR.

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Why he is harsh? And who a girl date is not his business... first 'no any comment' but then comment anyway...


Other lies that came from there:
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20 days after:
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LIAR.


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1 week later
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LIAR.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:54 pm

avanfurwet wrote:
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Seems like a narcissistic delusion for pw to pretend he is a plucky "competitor" to WGCZ.

More like a fly buzzing around a lion's arse. Maybe a bit irritating, but not exactly a contender for king of the jungle.


And I thought the industry trend was towards smaller independent producers making content to sell on various platforms.

So the future king of the jungle is likely to be whoever controls the dominant platform, like a Google or a Facebook of porn.

I want to focus more on other side...I mean... until this same agency and agent sent those new girlf first in Budapest to him was all thanks and good words... and now...
he forgot that if he sooted Mia Trejsi for first and have the cance to exploit the maximum possible from her, like other girls (Amy Drum, Harley Quinno, Bella Green...now disappeared!) it's thanks to Sandrita and Empatic Model.
They are all the same... always the same old story. But what you want expect by a selfcentered,narcissist and liar like that.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:33 pm

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''I don't know, but I know that for three days his agent has been shot with red bullets by people we know but who, whatever happens, will have trouble I think to do Isabela what they hope .
We'll see in the future if I'm right or wrong...''


You are wrong. Bye.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby avanfurwet » Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:30 am

BlueShadow wrote:From here
Yes, and you are right. But in the end what would be the meaning? You say some things have to be said... But you will understand better than me that if a model has only made a single production in 2 months... inevitably we end up talking about the dirty games of Limpman. Is related. Apart that what you want to talk here? About nothing, not even others shoot she did, 'cause there are none.
So again, can avoid opening topic of models that are ''lady nobody'' and not even real adult models, that the only thing they did is get exploited by an hairy old man in a hotel room.

I mean, we could choose to confine all the details and screenshot evidence exposing woodman's lies and manipulations to the woodman thread.

Within a girl's thread, we could restrain ourselves to just saying something like "woodman fucked her over again, here is the link" and point to the evidence in the woodman thread.

That way the woodman thread would contain the full story, covering many girls, showing all of woodman's endless repeat offences. Instead of spraying them all over the forum.

And the girl's thread would be all about her, but still including brief links pointing to evidence where woodman conspired to fuck things up for her.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:27 am

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He tries his games with everyone,always try to convince/brainwash/manipulate the newbies. He always expect that girls listen to his delusional bullshit. He can't stand if they think whith teir own brain LOL

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His conception of porn? Which? Make girls do anal / DP in their very first scene and then try to block them. Thats a good conception of porn...business. For him.


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LOL Obvious. Hope the girls think less ... he hope they're all lowbrained and do things without thinking?
''she doesn't believe what I told her !!!'' Oooh...poor egoman... :rolleyes:

Not believing what he said to her (manipulative words) was the best thing she could do.


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Lets see...
1- her agent proposed her to me...but was just a question of money...
so...why would an agent (doing his fucking job) propose a girl to a producer (known for making and paying good for the first anal of unknown girls) if not for money? Do agencies do charity?? In his delusional brain, victim of his propaganda XD

2-She is money oriented...and? When he trying to get exclusive jobs (with some tricky and shady deal) isn't it for money? Isn't it to get an economic return from the exclusivity?

He gets em right of the bat before they have figured out how the industry works. Can happens that he find girl that already have understood everything.
And judging by the many productions she did and do, and from the money she get from Tushy I don't think she is sad that she wasn't exploited by a couple of hairy old men in a dreary hotel room. Proof that doing that the only benefit is on one side...
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:03 am

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Bwahahah, so he really shoot porn for blind. XD

He blur the penetration in the trailers now (he should blur his face, maybe he will sell more), even less sense compared to the mosaic censored japanese porn XD
Reason? Money... and he speak about ''bad'' girl that are money oriented...

More time pass and more you can see the foolish paranoia.
Next time mute also the audio, maybe someone jerk off hearing the audio. :D


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Postby IndyPleco » Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:57 am

Always thought it would be poetic justice if NIИ came after his sorry ass for backdated royalties on all those trailers.

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Postby BlueShadow » Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:30 am

Aside from the fact that a trailer is meant to present the content to the members and entice the purchase for potential new one, if those who watch but then don't buy maybe don't like what they saw.
And then, jerk off with a one minute trailer?... I understand premature ejaculation but... XD
What a non sense... :D

Imagine if Brazzers, LP, Bangbros etc. etc. they release blurred and censored trailers, at the very least they would think they are going crazy or there is a new martial law on porn XD
This mean treat people and member like dumb...happy them... I'm sure they will be all in favor and they will say, 'what a good move... MASTER'. LOL.



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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby avanfurwet » Tue Aug 25, 2020 10:54 am

I think by obscuring his trailers and cutting his scenes he is turning away his own customers, but not my business.

Seems he's obsessed with "piracy" which is'nt going away, and which the whole industry has been forced to adjust and adapt to. But he's living in the past.

Also, it's an excuse for him to play the victim and rant about how it's "so unfair" (while distracting from all his own wrongdoing). Straight out of the Trump playbook.

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Postby BlueShadow » Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:41 pm

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Yes, he recommends all girls not to get fucked immediately in all holes ... obviously if they do it for him everything is ok !!! Is good for her career to hold back... or maybe more for his business.
There are a lot of models that are ''finished'' in less than 2 months, not 6... and without even doing anal, just as there are girls who immediately do other anal and have been in business for years (some still now) and work for all productions, Blanche Bradburry, Ginebra Bellucci certainly are not girls who have waited, Nataly Gold has built a ''decent'' career with her hardcore scenes, for sure not with only vaginal B/G, Gina Gerson... Polina Maxim (ooops she started here on LP...) and many others ... but this hasn't stopped her from having a career, recently Alyssa Bounty also did two more anal scene... so in 6 months , according to this rule, she's finished...
Is not a rule!
There are a lot of girls who disappear even after a month without doing nothing. Others who have had a long career also doing anal / DP etc.
In the US a lot of girls do everything and have been stars for years. Only in porn in Europe do we see this bullshit, girls doing anal in their first scene and then getting blocked (by Limpman+ Brillbabes duo) hoping and believing in some ephemeral promise of earnings.
If they do anal and DP everywhere company are not interested in the model? If they have fans, and if their scene sell they will have booking, they are not stupid. Depend on the girls, the fact if she get fucked in all holes is relative.



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Yes, and is happy to have broken up a relationship, what an idiot.
He is laughing at that... but of course for Mia is ok.

So, he is he who advised not to do any more anal immediately, he is he who gave the contacts of modelmania, (and of course the Brillbabes sect... their friends ... as long as he pays well ... judging by their past certainly they not was always friendly with him XD) (I recommend please, no anal and DP! But this they already know...) in constant contact and knows all her movements, if this is not manipulation... That's some brainwashing kind of shit right here.

Obviously the girl goes to LP without knowing that LP shoot anal! Agent told to her it's only a casting picture... (mmh...I have seen this modus operandi with Brillbabes with the newbies... :D But of course in that case is perfectly fine if an inexperienced girl, that don't know how this business works, go for an interview but than receive pressure from him and assistant to shoot anal immediately. LOL)
And I wonder why the girl doesn't want to do anal... I don't think she was filled with words. No brainwashing, like with Clara Mia who canceled all the anal shoots already scheduled in Budapest (her words !!) except for him, after meeting him. If ''something wrong happened'' it's just because she is brainwashed in not doing others anal.
Of course Mia came back to him for others shooting, one of those a anal, but of course for him she wanna do, but not wanna shoot anal for other productions... No manipulation. Is all normal.


I said this from the beginning... we will not see other anal of this girl for others productions, she is BRAINWASHED. Next!
Of course you can enjoy her vanilla and VR stuff. While in the meantime you can see her exploited by an old man in a hotel room, and he will make money from that stealed 'exclusive' shooted with a girl (like for every girl that go there) which has not yet figured out how the biz works, her will remain with the hope of great income if she will manage to stay in porn for 2-3 years...


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Still convinced that I am Lara Malvo's boyfriend... but I wasn't also Sofi Smile's boyfriend?
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Yes, Clea Gaultier, judging by her filmography another example of a girl who spared herself by not doing any more anal / DP for other productions soon... in the last 3 years there are almost more anal than vaginal.. but she is still in the business, producers still care of her, strange.
And again, the fact that they did the first there and then become succesfull not mean that much (happens, and can happens also the contrary, (how many have not had a good career?), There are girls that started with the first anal shoot here and now have a good career (yes, hear right), so... as we can see...simply... happens. Again. It’s not where you start, it’s where you finish.
But someone is victim of his own ego.

Anyway on this point he is right, it is useless to discuss when he brags himself... When a person tells to himself that he is a cool guy... what do you want to tell him? LOL


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Yes, we know in which way he like to taking care of the feeling of the girls and why... to manipulate them. Like if those girls asked something to him... they just want to work and make money, just leave them alone for God sake XD Why playing always the role of the daddy?? LOL The years pass, it looks like more and more weird all this chat with 18years old girls... XD
And btw in the other cases, when a girl don't believe his shit or if she has success without starting with him he taking care of their feeling speaking bad of them on his forum
(Ginebra Bellucci, Charlie Red, also Anissa Kate wasn't good for him, Lyia Silver,Alyssia Kent, Romy Indy, He said bad thing also about Kiara Lord when she refused him, make jokes of Sofi Smile regaridng the 'no kiss' etc. etc. for sure a good way to taking care of the feeling... until they play cool with him! Same things with the agent...some time ago Julaina Grandi was the best, now why he don't spoke so well about her, and always put some shit on her agency? Same Sandrita Sulova... they sent girl first to him, all friends, all thanks for this and for that...now that the collaboration is over he speak bad... and show his real color)


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So, Sandrita abused her... Just make note that he said that you abused her. Exactly like Lya Missy would have been abused (according to him) on the set of Private, right?
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Iddaoeeok » Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:22 pm

I've said this before on here but accusing other people of doing exactly what you're doing is classic sociopathic behaviour. It's a distraction tactic: the idea is that if you complain vociferously enough about certain behaviours then other people are going to assume that you are not indulging in the same behaviour because it wouldn't seem rational otherwise - and people like the world to be rational.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:53 pm

Just to note, I said that before of all the last drama, LP, empatic models etc.
After I saw the [spam] account clearly opened by him, the propaganda showing her in ''toilets' with him like a ''private'' moment, private moment shared on a social media... XD
the fact that in 2 month the only thing she did was going in Budapest's hotel room... the tour of the city... LOL
The attempt of controlling her was clear to me from day 1.
The rest are just a confirm.

I mean, he even make her broke up with her BF (3 years relationship)...
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If this don't means have influence on her and her mind...

He also succeed in make her broke up with a friendship...
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(Not in a direct way, but in a subtle way, as he like, not every person have the finesse and wise to understand this anticipating the moves... also put the model against the agent, not the first time he do this... (if they are an obstacle for his plans regarding a whore, a mean a model (but not in his narcissist head , thats what they are for him. Whore that have to make money for him staying exclusive as much as possible, staying always in contact with them, act kind and think about all their needs...)

He had the upper hand oon her from the start, the rest are just a consequences of his (and his assistant) subtle actions.

Her (ex) agency and LP have nothing to do if she said no to the anal. Not wanna do anal, from the beginning. (she follows priors ''orders'' (aware or from subconscious). No need of a big mind to understand this.


Wise and smart girls after the first meeting and job take the money and stays away from this kind of characters, and away from their words, and games.
I mean, which normal girl can trust what he say and like a person that behind the ''kindness'', money, restaurant etc. the only thing he do is speak good about himself, bad of girls and others that don't follow what he say, represent himself like a ''superman'' on a forum XD and saying he is a spider and brag about the fact of how he lure the girls in his web bit by bit.

Only the concept (staged or not staged) of being ''convinced'' by an old man to have sex in a sad hotel room and then showed like a trophy in restaurant selfie etc. should be disgusting for them... but the money an the naiveness (and the trust in some agencies and the need to works...)
There is a reason if he prefers the newbies and want to be the first ''producer'' that this girls get in contact in the porn business.



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Too bad that the sentences she wrote on IG and [spam] don't reflect her actions.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Wed Aug 26, 2020 10:57 pm

Iddaoeeok wrote:I've said this before on here but accusing other people of doing exactly what you're doing is classic sociopathic behaviour. It's a distraction tactic: the idea is that if you complain vociferously enough about certain behaviours then other people are going to assume that you are not indulging in the same behaviour because it wouldn't seem rational otherwise - and people like the world to be rational.

Mia in one of her many sentences on IG said ''One who throws mud cannot have clean hands'', well, see how much mud he threw on girls, agencies, agents, other producers in his forum through the years... is not hard to open the eyes.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:32 am

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It's hilarious how stupid YOU are!

It was related to the sentence that girls who immediately get fucked in all holes cannot become great pornstars and have a long career. Is not a rule, is not like that.
Where they start doesn't matter a fuck.
It only counts for a producer who has to make money, and have the opportunity to brag if by chance and only by chance models become popular.
Again, if 100 start there the chance that someone become popular are higher, it's just a matter of probability. XD Explain me why a girl like Polina Maxim that started here, now she is still working and do a lot of productions from more vanilla stuff, VR etc. to more hardcore. Simply because she is beautiful, she know what do to, their scene sell, she have fans. And this can apply to many others.
But you are a genius, too high level for me, I can't talk to you. XD



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Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:54 am

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''She didn't work for them. As for Mia Trejsi, she is not yet ready to spend 8 hours in the sun getting her ass ripped apart by injected guys.
Certainly VMG europe is much more classy and fun than the Circus, certainly Juliana does a good job but basically the operating mode is similar, injected bite and lidocaine tube. I have a lot of girls who told me live including Lena Reif.
I censored because at the time it was via Julmodels that I got it (Juliana thought I would never be able to fuck her).
But when it was done, a hurricane fell on my shoulders and that of the translator Sabina who is Juliana Grandi's assistant, whose mission was to prevent me from putting a cock in her ass since she had just signed a contract with Tushy. In short, for over two hours, Juliana yelled at Sabina, Lena Reif and me ... And it was the same mess with Olivia Sin, Jessika Portman etc ... and the coup de grace to our 10 years of friendships when she took Yukky Amey, the sadistic little pedo, in her agency.
All this to say that obviously Mia Trejsi will one day be a girl of Vixen or Tushy since she is really pretty, she loves cock, blacks and anal / DP but she is not yet professional enough to get her ass exploded by doped cocks for hours !!!

PW''


Confirm after confirm...
He also plays the role of the victim and is surprised if JM get mad at him.
Basically he doesn't care if the girls have contracts, he doesn't give a damn about other people, he tries in every way to get what he wants for his business, he have to exploit them until they are unaware of how the business really works. And he also said that hasn't happened once, Jessika Portman, Olivia Sin etc. LOL
It is certainly a professional behavior, what all producers do every day. XD
So who is the victim here? Him or the agent and the girl that had a contract with a big studio?

Is not surprising that everyone in porn business speak bad about him behind his back. Everyone involved in euro porn business are well aware of the situation and how he works focused on ruin others business...



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Of course he had to say that, how he ''convinced'' a girl to do anal even though she had a contract and the agent had explicitly asked him not to do anything with her.
He is almost 60 yrs old, but he is emotionally mature? To be emotionally mature means you’re able to regulate your emotions don’t let your ego take over your thinking constantly. But his ego is too big. It's ok to say, the girl had a contract, but I don't fucking care of her agent! Cool!! :D
This conduct would be condemned by everyone in US porn.
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Postby avanfurwet » Thu Aug 27, 2020 9:56 am

"Kennethaciva" seems to be Woodman again wearing one of his thousand disguises (all of them exactly the same).

As for the rest, Shahida Arabi explains it well. Woodman is just a toxic narcissist blowing smoke out of his ass to confuse and distract. Nothing he claims in his own little echo chamber matters.

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Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:02 pm

avanfurwet wrote:"Kennethaciva" seems to be Woodman again wearing one of his thousand disguises (all of them exactly the same).

As for the rest, Shahida Arabi explains it well. Woodman is just a toxic narcissist blowing smoke out of his ass to confuse and distract. Nothing he claims in his own little echo chamber matters.

Not work with everybody... I mean...
''Gaslighting is perhaps one of the most insidious manipulative tactics out there because it works to distort and erode your sense of reality; it eats away at your ability to trust yourself and inevitably disables you from feeling justified in calling out abuse and mistreatment.''


What is more clear than, I fucked the ass of those girls even if they had an exclusive contract and her agent prohibited to do something with those girls?
Simply I writing things down as they happened and as he said (as also is writted in the article posted by you). Or maybe he said a bullshit (it will be not a surprise)? XD

I thought he was a great manipulator ... but the problem is he's more narcissistic. So, again, his ego take over his thinking constantly. Almost too easy...




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So, maybe in his head is fault of Juliana Grandi if those girls where bounded by a contract and he couldn't do anything, but he did it anyway. Thats not a negative behaviour in his head.
Who knows what would have happened with another producer. Likely ready to throw mud...
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:39 pm

avanfurwet wrote:
As for the rest, Shahida Arabi explains it well.

BTW the agents (the one without shady intent) should show this to every new girl before they go to meet him. A little knowledge on the matter won't hurt. XD
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby CanadianCouple » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:11 am

17 pages. why does this creature get so much attention on this forum

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:20 am

Just noticed that Mia Trejsi's ​​casting has been updated with another 10 minutes... without her members knowing anything ... but not just the members ...
This video was sold through a presale (anyone can offer what they want, and he can gain more money up front)

According to him, the presale is used to avoid losing from piracy... and everyone can participate in the presale, even those who are not members, but despite this he cuts his videos, even for those who have supported (with money, not peanuts,) the presale... maybe they think they have the complete video... instead 10 minutes have been removed (whatever it is, it doesn't count, it's still not complete and was deliberately cut as it was originally thought).
But surely everyone who participated in the presale will have received an e-mail to inform them, 'attention your video has been updated.' :D

Blurred trailer... 5 year old scene still to be continued, videos cut in a subtle way and without notice of updates.
This is a user friendly service :D
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby xxx » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:41 pm

sarsastrid wrote:So.... what happened here? Anyone?

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What is that thing? I haven't talked to Juliana in years. Our last conversaion was not hateful, I just told her she should not accept that one of her client (Woodman) does everything to cut her other clients.

As for the piracy, as usual with Woodman it's a big fat lie : he knows damn well that we are excellent in that domain because his content is automatically scanned and blocked immediately after it is uploaded (you can try and see for yourself : it won't go through). This is a free service that very very few sites provide (maybe 10 out of 100,000). You may end up seeing a couple pirated clips here and there : that's because he didn't provide the originals to protect them.

By the way, I should point out that HE IS PIRATING our PRIVATE CASTINGS content. Fucking huge hypocrite piece of trash.

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