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BlueShadow wrote:He could very well stop producing and publish only the scenes he has in stock and he could continue for years to come... (and good part of the members would be happy... but there would be another part that wants to see ''new girls''...but if these new girls are just 2-3 per year...and all the same style...)
In one month he lost more than 2 million visits to the site...it's not random. It's symptomatic.
But knowing his "policy"(...even wait 11 years to publish a scene), I don't think he ever will easily), the problem is...who knows how many of those videos he can actually publish...

I don't think he could Blue. I think he obtained many of his "initiations" under circumstances that could today cost him big time without those models (who are now married and many light years away from their old lives) saying in writing that he can use the footage. I mean, how many models who have already told Woodman "no" will all of a sudden agree to let him publish a scene that she was or wasn't fully aware of in the first place? You saw the wording in that release he showed, how many of them would have fully understood what they were reading back then? I'm pretty sure all of them would rather their children and husbands not see them being buggered by a fat furry Frenchman! Try explaining that to your husband!
Plus I think there are probably even more models who categorically said NO to him but accepted money to say or suggest that something happened (I think Suzi Carina and his good "Sister" Gabriella are two of those) So, there isn't anything to show it's all smoke and mirrors. Like Pierre said Hollywood doesn't use real blood they fake it.

One thing is for sure though Blue. He's already started to criticize his new connections while claiming that we are failing to destabilize his position. I think he better look at those figures again.




Course, he could prove me wrong by showing Gabriella's initiation. . . . . . . I won't be holding my breath.


******KEEP PAYING THOSE SUBS THE SUCKERS WHO ARE LEFT!!******

Panorama wrote:I've been hearing that Woodman's site has taken a huge hit in memberships this last quarter thanks primarily to his association and defence of his paedophile mate Dennis Burkas. Can anyone confirm this?

Nice man:





But of course he never did business related thing with him. Sure.

Panorama wrote:he would give away all his wealth and probably his family if someone told him that he would be popular again

hahahahahahahahahah

Panorama wrote:He says he's not bothered about going to conventions AVN, Venus etc, but the fact that he isn't there shining for the camera must be absolutely killing him. You only have to see how busy it was with almost everyone and everything represented, but no Woodman.

why he doesnt go to AVN, Venus etc????

tell me plz

doraemon_washington wrote:

Panorama wrote:He says he's not bothered about going to conventions AVN, Venus etc, but the fact that he isn't there shining for the camera must be absolutely killing him. You only have to see how busy it was with almost everyone and everything represented, but no Woodman.

why he doesnt go to AVN, Venus etc????

tell me plz

Because shit is not a category.

BlueShadow wrote:Because shit is not a category.

I mean, that has to be one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen. How the hell can anyone get off on that shit? . . . No pun intended.

BlueShadow wrote:

doraemon_washington wrote:

Panorama wrote:He says he's not bothered about going to conventions AVN, Venus etc, but the fact that he isn't there shining for the camera must be absolutely killing him. You only have to see how busy it was with almost everyone and everything represented, but no Woodman.

why he doesnt go to AVN, Venus etc????

tell me plz

Because shit is not a category.

emmmmmmm

some high profile porn actresses have done scat
so anna de ville & kaitlyn katsaros cant go to AVN, Venus etc now????

doing scat = forbidden to go to AVN, Venus????

Of course I was joking, and it was more of a provocation... but if you want to talk seriously...

There is a difference... PW represents a production--there are productions of a certain standards




Or do you seriously think that can be nominated for the "best art direction" maybe? With those cheap backgrounds for sure ...



Maybe he can be nominated for the best editing... this video was top:

ANYWAY!

Moving on from shit.

Once again crybaby Woodman is bashing his squeaky hammer and threatening to take all his toys home because what's left of his membership has told him one or two cold - hard - facts!
I can quite confidently tell you now. PIERRE WOODMAN COULD NOT - WILL NOT - WALK AWAY FROM HIS OUTDATED AND BORING WEBSITE! It is an impossibility. The obscurity would kill him!
I give you a cast iron guarantee suckers. Woodman will still be here next summer telling you that this girl he promised back in 2004 will be on the site at Christmas, and you will ALL believe him!
Just keep paying your subs idiots.



But there's more! . . . . .

"Pieter," writes that he agrees with everyone else that Woodman's site is now complete garbage and then says "Times have changed and that's fine". WTF?
What's "fine"?? Do you think the rubbish and "fake hype" you've seen this year is worth 420 euros next???? REALLY??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Panorama goes to look for the emoticon that's pissing itself!

Whatever, I'll give you this "Pieter", at least you know how to kick a man when he's down. . . . . He'll probably accuse you of being one of the "dark forces" and kick you off the site but I'll give you props for speaking up.

Panorama wrote:ANYWAY!

Moving on from shit.

BlueShadow wrote:Or do you seriously think that can be nominated for the "best art direction" maybe? With those cheap backgrounds for sure ...

that blue backround was so weird hahahahahahahahahahahah

sleydenel and her mom are so cool though

Firstly. This is why nobody likes you, Pierre.

Instead of being respectful (especially to someone who has passed away) and keeping your big mouth closed, you had to try and SHOW that you were being respectful but still couldn't help being an obnoxious twat by commenting "I decided it was better not bring her back front camera and keep people having her "past look" in the head instead of the recent one because she had changed a lot unfortunately".

You decided to not talk to her again on your shitty little site because she didn't measure up to your high standards? Forget her personality, forget her spirit, nobody wants to see that, we're all shallow like you and only care about what she looks like! Why didn't you just put her in the STHUF section, isn't that where you put all the rejects? I'd actually like to bet that she turned you down like all the other past models who had the unfortunate task of visiting your hotel room.



Secondly, I'd like to congratulate a Woodman member for finally coming to his senses!
Pieter I tip my hat to you, my good man!

Panorama wrote:Firstly. This is why nobody likes you, Pierre.

Instead of being respectful (especially to someone who has passed away) and keeping your big mouth closed, you had to try and SHOW that you were being respectful but still couldn't help being an obnoxious twat by commenting "I decided it was better not bring her back front camera and keep people having her "past look" in the head instead of the recent one because she had changed a lot unfortunately".

You decided to not talk to her again on your shitty little site because she didn't measure up to your high standards? Forget her personality, forget her spirit, nobody wants to see that, we're all shallow like you and only care about what she looks like! Why didn't you just put her in the STHUF section, isn't that where you put all the rejects? I'd actually like to bet that she turned you down like all the other past models who had the unfortunate task of visiting your hotel room.

why not just keep your big mouth shut.jpg

Secondly, I'd like to congratulate a Woodman member for finally coming to his senses!
Pieter I tip my hat to you, my good man!

Pieter I applaud you.jpg

what happened to nikky blond???

doraemon_washington wrote:what happened to nikky blond???

Apparently, she passed away in July doraemon. It's a pity that Woodman couldn't just say something nice about her without having to get in the fact that she didn't quite measure up to his exacting standards in her later years. A completely unnecessary and thoughtless comment.

But speaking of exacting standards.

Pierre's still trying to force Columbian and Venezuelan models down his loyal member's throats. Can any of you lot remember the likes of Mary Queen, Blue Angel, Carla Cox, Marketa Belonoha, and Suzie Carina just to name a few? Ah, they were the days.

When you have a member who tells you exactly why you are wrong, simply ignore him, and praise yourself!!. Yet another one of Woodie's troll farm creations is in the post below! Retire my arse, who are you trying to kid Woodman?

Panorama wrote:

doraemon_washington wrote:what happened to nikky blond???

Apparently, she passed away in July doraemon.

thank you dear

i love you

doraemon_washington wrote:
thank you dear

i love you

Right back at'cha.

CONGRATULATIONS WOODMAN MEMBERS!!!

All your efforts this year have enabled Woodman to treat himself to a $150,000 Tesla!

Did he thank his loyal members who have been paying subs while receiving nothing but broken promises for years for this extravagance?

Did he thank all the models or his hard-working assistants?

Alas, no.

As usual, Pierre just wants to show the world how successful HE is. Your contribution to his success is insignificant enough that you are not even mentioned.

BUT. There is an up-side for us peasants. Pierre's "baby" which he paid for 8 months ago has probably already lost tens of thousands in value and will continue to lose money faster than he is losing members! A fool and his money are easily parted.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre goes on his forum now and posts that it's all thanks to his followers that he can afford his new car!

It's really amazing how most frequent contributors here pretend that casting endeavor of the Bp lier APE was his main source of income. While he himself actually somewhere above call it what it is: A hobby.
Of course it's a bit more, its an outlet for his private sex and his games putting down growing competitors of a once nr. 1 star of Europorn.
But its no way the source of income allowing him to buy a Tesla or whatever!

Anyway, it's also way interesting how his delays in releasing still cause so much discussions and how they actually started this thread if I am not mistaken. Because actually Bp lier APE is the dark spot of 1989-2004 Europorn productions, the branching out in more lucrative fields than porn, covered up by a so called porn production company. Thats the business aspect. But what makes it so hilarious is the APEs neurotic personality. This is also part of his hobby, even though unintended by him.
Would be actually interesting to learn how it is to make real business with him, not hobby business!

dap-addict wrote:It's really amazing how most frequent contributors here pretend that casting endeavor of the Bp lier APE was his main source of income. While he himself actually somewhere above call it what it is: A hobby.
Of course it's a bit more, its an outlet for his private sex and his games putting down growing competitors of a once nr. 1 star of Europorn.
But its no way the source of income allowing him to buy a Tesla or whatever!

Anyway, it's also way interesting how his delays in releasing still cause so much discussions and how they actually started this thread if I am not mistaken. Because actually Bp lier APE is the dark spot of 1989-2004 Europorn productions, the branching out in more lucrative fields than porn, covered up by a so called porn production company. Thats the business aspect. But what makes it so hilarious is the APEs neurotic personality. This is also part of his hobby, even though unintended by him.
Would be actually interesting to learn how it is to make real business with him, not hobby business!

Hi dap,

Oh, I know his casting site isn't his main income (especially now) But believe me, it's not a hobby. Woodman would have you believe that it's just a hobby for him but it's much, much deeper than that. With a hobby you can move on to something else, especially if it's causing as much trouble as this "hobby" is for Woodman. He NEEDS this, all his "other" businesses don't see him in front of the camera shining for all his adoring fans. It would kill him to not be able to take the praise and adoration. He needs this like you and I need air to breathe. That's why I can give you a cast iron guarantee that Woodman will not go anywhere until the guy he doesn't believe in takes him from this world.

As for his "other" businesses. As yet and despite many accusations, I'm still to see anyone PROVE that he has anything other than legit businesses on the go.

Panorama wrote:Woodman would have you believe that it's just a hobby for him but it's much, much deeper than that. With a hobby you can move on to something else, especially if it's causing as much trouble as this "hobby" is for Woodman. He NEEDS this, all his "other" businesses don't see him in front of the camera shining for all his adoring fans.

I agree with you that the casting it's not just a hobby, but indeed sth he NEEDS. I mean he wouldn't spend so much time on forum with all those manipulations and fake-accounts if he wouldn't need it. Also it looks like the biggest blow for Bp lier APE was when Hustler sacked him and his pervious fame started to go down and down. It was the time he founded that Casting page, tried pretty late to go online with his porn, which actually deteriorated more and more because Castings became only outlet for films basically, old big productions were gone.
Castings had after this always many functions besides scouting for his other business(es): It meant personal sexual gratification for him, shining on front or girls more than half his age, shining before fans/users/adorers. It made him be, still have a name within Europorn biz. It also played into his need to put women down.

For ppl interested in psychology and mental illnesses it's interesting to fellow him still, which can easily done thanks to this thread, so that you dont need to give him 1 more visit on his own webpages, which is also a plus.
One could of course call him a tragic figure of the Golden Age Europorn (1995-2005), he's the one left over and completely stuck while others like JYL or CC re-invented themselves, but we mustn't forget that unlike Rocco he has other businesses behind porn films.

is a hobby for sure cuz is so much fun to do porn

i do amateur porn videos and is so much fun

so much fun omg

a hobby in part i mean, cuz is so much funnnnn

it must be one of the most fun & pleasure & coolests jobs

he should look more gangsta & bad
to be cooler

the looks are very important

i suggest he gets long hair + mask on his face + makeup
like immortan joe in mad max

immortan joe looks so cool & gangsta & bad

the looks are very important too

(i dont have autism)

Panorama wrote: ****** KEEP PAYING THOSE SUBS SUCKERS!!!******
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre goes on his forum now and posts that it's all thanks to his followers that he can afford his new car!

They also pay to try to find SECRET updates... treasure hunts to see something they paid for... that's entertainment too! LOL
(updates of butchered scenes without notifying members who pay... I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are more people who see full scenes (pirated anyway) for free than those who pay)

doraemon_washington wrote:
(i dont have autism)

We know doraemon, you're just crazy! I'll have whatever you're having!

BlueShadow wrote:They also pay to try to find SECRET updates... treasure hunts to see something they paid for... that's entertainment too! LOL
(updates of butchered scenes without notifying members who pay... I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are more people who see full scenes (pirated anyway) for free than those who pay)

Not only that Blue but after a number of members expressed the desire to see fewer South American models Pierre goes ahead and rams another one down their thoat's whether they like it or not. (and getting your cheerleaders and trolls to praise your decision doesn't count Pierre)

If that's not bad enough here comes another pre-pay!!
So, you get promises that Pierre doesn't keep, lots of models you don't want to see, and none of the models you do, even if you have been a PAYING member for 20 years. He claims he is the only producer who uses REAL piss and has been taking your money for that exclusivity. . . . Yet he filmed himself faking it with a bottle of Tropicana!! And then to add insult to injury to the paying Woodman member an unpaying member (me) got Pierre to show 25 models of his choice over SIX MONTHS!! And now he's asking you to pay to see a model you've already paid for???????

****** YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO FOLKS!!!******

Panorama wrote:

doraemon_washington wrote:
(i dont have autism)

We know doraemon, you're just crazy! I'll have whatever you're having!

O.O

im gonna blush hehehehehehehe

Panorama wrote:

BlueShadow wrote:They also pay to try to find SECRET updates... treasure hunts to see something they paid for... that's entertainment too! LOL
(updates of butchered scenes without notifying members who pay... I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are more people who see full scenes (pirated anyway) for free than those who pay)

Not only that Blue but after a number of members expressed the desire to see fewer South American models Pierre goes ahead and rams another one down their thoat's whether they like it or not. (and getting your cheerleaders and trolls to praise your decision doesn't count Pierre)

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If that's not bad enough here comes another pre-pay!!
So, you get promises that Pierre doesn't keep, lots of models you don't want to see, and none of the models you do, even if you have been a PAYING member for 20 years. He claims he is the only producer who uses REAL piss and has been taking your money for that exclusivity. . . . Yet he filmed himself faking it with a bottle of Tropicana!! And then to add insult to injury to the paying Woodman member an unpaying member (me) got Pierre to show 25 models of his choice over SIX MONTHS!! And now he's asking you to pay to see a model you've already paid for???????

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****** YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO FOLKS!!!******

This means only one thing...more work for him (the only one seriously happy with all these latina) XD

does pierre clean his ass when girls lick his asshole???

i bet he likes to have his asshole dirty when they lick it

doraemon_washington wrote:does pierre clean his ass when girls lick his asshole???

i bet he likes to have his asshole dirty when they lick it

Contrary to what a lot of people are led to believe doraemon (even by Woodman himself) but I think most models would not lick a dirty backside. So I'd say yes I think he would have to.

In other news.

Can anyone explain what Woodman is up to here? His "members" (aka Woodman's troll farm) seem to know that the "circus" has caused his latest pre-sale scam to leave the industry. Is this true, and if so what did they do?

OR

Is this another ploy to get his gullible suckers to buy into his scam pre-sale by basically saying this is the only time you're going to see her? The timing of her going to pre-sale and her sudden disappearance seem too coincidental to me.

Panorama wrote:

doraemon_washington wrote:does pierre clean his ass when girls lick his asshole???

i bet he likes to have his asshole dirty when they lick it

Contrary to what a lot of people are led to believe doraemon (even by Woodman himself) but I think most models would not lick a dirty backside. So I'd say yes I think he would have to.

licking dirty asshole is cooler cuz is more degrading

it would so cool if pierre woodman makes girls lick his ass dirty, cuz is super degrading

doraemon_washington wrote:it would so cool if pierre woodman makes girls lick his ass dirty, cuz is super degrading

Just out of interest doraemon, why would you want to see a woman degraded?

Panorama wrote:

doraemon_washington wrote:it would so cool if pierre woodman makes girls lick his ass dirty, cuz is super degrading

Just out of interest doraemon, why would you want to see a woman degraded?

cuz S&M is awesome

also dont u realize u are in a hardcore porn website????

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

i saw anna de ville drinking tons of piss and sperm from a lot of different guys

u think being pissed and swallow tons of piss from a lot of different men is not degrading????
(i once saw her drinking 25 shots of piss + addittional piss)

dont u realize you are in a hardcore porn website????

hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah

also some girls are masochistic and likes it

sleydanal and her mom now do porn in gonzo studio

no more blue weird backround hehe

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/620420

sdimpalass wrote:New mother daughter team. Milev Skaya And Sladyen Skaya

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/620420

FitFilthyPervert wrote:Imagine doing this with your mom lmao. They aren't respectable, but I'm grateful they do what they do.

slayden and her mom rulez

they are so cool

pierre woodman's weird blue backround is stupid

Yes guys, it happened.
And he liked the feeling of being spanked.

BlueShadow wrote:

a guy spanked him and he liked it????

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

doraemon_washington wrote:
cuz S&M is awesome

Yeah, but that didn't really answer my question did it? I'm not having a go, I'm just interested why you would like to see someone else suffer.

nilis wrote:So much adult content being produced almost anywhere you look, and still, people around here can't find a way to stop giving their time to that shady, most unpleasant individual PW is. It's like they're infatuated with that fucker or something. Whatever it might be, a 122-page topic is borderline madness.

Yes, there is. Yes, I know. Sadly, I probably am yes. And yes you're right it is!

Meanwhile in other news. . . . . . . . . . . . .

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm intrigued to know what Pierre has on his security video. He's used the usual "probably one day I will show" bullshit that he usually uses to describe the scenes that folk are still waiting for.
Not being "in the business". I personally, don't give a monkey's ass what he might or might not have so I guess I might as well be the one to try and goad Pierre into showing us what he's got.

So, come on Pierre, show the footage or it didn't happen.

nilis wrote:So much adult content being produced almost anywhere you look, and still, people around here can't find a way to stop giving their time to that shady, most unpleasant individual PW is. It's like they're infatuated with that fucker or something. Whatever it might be, a 122-page topic is borderline madness.

judging by ur negative messages u seem to be a shady unpleasant individual too hahah

u even said visigoth2020260 messages are manic and overall spam hahah

nilis wrote:As if the almost manic episodes of never-ending texts and overall spam were not enough...

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=58866&p=893590#p893590

i personally have the theory that if world war 3 happens

pierre woodman will become like immortan joe in mad max

Panorama wrote:

doraemon_washington wrote:
cuz S&M is awesome

Yeah, but that didn't really answer my question did it? I'm not having a go, I'm just interested why you would like to see someone else suffer.

nilis wrote:So much adult content being produced almost anywhere you look, and still, people around here can't find a way to stop giving their time to that shady, most unpleasant individual PW is. It's like they're infatuated with that fucker or something. Whatever it might be, a 122-page topic is borderline madness.

Yes, there is. Yes, I know. Sadly, I probably am yes. And yes you're right it is!

Meanwhile in other news. . . . . . . . . . . . .

I don't know about anybody else, but I'm intrigued to know what Pierre has on his security video. He's used the usual "probably one day I will show" bullshit that he usually uses to describe the scenes that folk are still waiting for.
Not being "in the business". I personally, don't give a monkey's ass what he might or might not have so I guess I might as well be the one to try and goad Pierre into showing us what he's got.

So, come on Pierre, show the footage or it didn't happen.

PW: "circus plans to destroy my work"

Then we are the obsessed ones...

there were people on HIS OWN forum complaining that there were too many Latina girls, all the same... but then that's us....
"Already cancelled 2 other South-Americans supposed to come"
Yes, the blame are on LP/AV for sure....

BlueShadow wrote:there were people on HIS OWN forum complaining that there were too many Latina girls, all the same... but then that's us....
"Already cancelled 2 other South-Americans supposed to come"
Yes, the blame are on LP/AV for sure....

You know the French Blue, everything is always somebody else's fault.