Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[Pineapples Studio]

Fuck you. All you have accomplished with your presence here is to endanger more people.

[Pineapples Studio]

I have preserved the contents of the entire current thread on Woodman's forum using archive.is, just in case anything changes, because several things have been said that he may regret later and it could be a highly valuable resource for the public record.

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[Caristico]

BlueShadow, excuse me for being annoying ... but you still didn't say if you even are on the eurobabeforum... this is a simple yes are now question
i just want to be sure, if that accusations against eurobabeforum are true or not...

[Pineapples Studio]

It's not his responsibility to tell you that. He did not make the accusation.

[Caristico]

how can the accusation be true if he do not have an account?

[Pineapples Studio]

Ask xxx that question. After what BlueShadow has endured today, I don't think anyone should be asking him to provide additional information about his online activities. He is justified in telling you nothing. Try to be sensitive to the fact that the dude just got blackmailed.

[Caristico]

Ask xxx that question.

i give up

[Pineapples Studio]

BlueShadow is not obligated to tell you anything. Your curiosity does not entitle you to an answer, which could very easily endanger him even further. You're being a selfish motherfucker.

[Caristico]

I am sure , he is a grown man and does not need your protection. Not my fault, that there are no PMs here anymore.
Just keep your habbit, to believe everything a forum owner writes and be happy in your bubble

[BlueShadow]

BlueShadow, excuse me for being annoying ... but you still didn't say if you even are on the eurobabeforum... this is a simple yes are now question
i just want to be sure, if that accusations against eurobabeforum are true or not...

I already answered. And told that was the last time I talk of this.
Then after you say that I am the one who always talks about the same subject...
What changes if I have an account on EBI, ADT [spam], Google, footballmanager, lickmyass.com or whatever?
My account is BlueShadow and I answer for BlueShadow here on LP, to prove anything else you must have BlueShadow's personal data that only LP, the admin, webmaster or whatever can provide, which they have not done and I want to believe it.
Apart from the fact that already exchanging personal data to third parties without consent would be a crime.

There is nothing to say.

[Moxoxo]

Yoo, why you deleted my post ? Angry about something ? The truth ?

Because you are an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. Robin didn't say that he worked without tests and I'm not going to let you use our forum to post this crap. The rest of your post I don't care about. I actually agree that his "work" will stand out for a while. Only problem is how it was executed.

I think idiots are poeple you Work with, and pay them. Posting Shootings @ Covid time, and Actors pushing bullshit in others... at the end you will loose Reputation, and maybe some income. If you dont Like it Ban my account and erase everything i wrote. Seriously so it !! Im done here.

[Pineapples Studio]

I am sure , he is a grown man and does not need your protection. Not my fault, that there are no PMs here anymore.
Just keep your habbit, to believe everything a forum owner writes and be happy in your bubble

Alright, that's enough out of you. Shut the fuck up.

You are clearly trying to bait BlueShadow into responding. I strongly suggest to him that he does not do it. In fact, nobody on this forum should provide any personally identifiable information, including the names of their accounts on other sites, because this could be used against them if those sites are willing to share personal information with third-party sources.

[BlueShadow]

I have an account on eatthischurros.com, of course my avatar is colored in blue!

[Pineapples Studio]

Yes, I have an account on papajohns.com called "GiveMePizzaFast".

My secret is out now.

[dap-addict]

Try to be sensitive to the fact that the dude just got blackmailed.

Didnt read back anymore and sort of attacked Blue recently in one of the model threads also.
But being blackmailed goes far too far!
Just to get it straight: My full solidarity, Blue!

[BlueShadow]

Try to be sensitive to the fact that the dude just got blackmailed.

Didnt read back anymore and sort of attacked Blue recently in one of the model threads also.
But being blackmailed goes far too far!
Just to get it straight: My full solidarity, Blue!

It's ok.
I would have preferred a little consideration when a model thinks she has the right to offend an user in all ways just because he asked a question and made some opinions.
(with someone who never misses an opportunity to exploit the situation and manipulate it, you know of who I'm talking about, when clearly the offenses comes from only one side)
Only Grey00owl showed some compassion and said that at least I'm intellectually honest.

[Pineapples Studio]

Well, I haven't actually read the Nelly Kent thread, so I don't know what you said, but even if you were behaving like a total douchebag and making false claims about everyone, it wouldn't be jusfification to blackmail you. Two wrongs don't make a right. The courts do not excuse blackmail because of a defense that people were being mean to the blackmailer.

[dap-addict]

I would have preferred a little consideration when a model thinks she has the right to offend an user in all ways just because he asked a question and made some opinions.
(with someone who never misses an opportunity to exploit the situation and manipulate it, you know of who I'm talking about, when clearly the offenses comes from only one side)
Only Grey00owl showed some compassion and said that at least I'm intellectually honest.

This is another situation, I'd just send you a PM, Blue - and it would be sure more appropriate: There are posters with experience talking to porn girls as hot blooded as Nelly. She has shown herself that way before.

But never mind: I really mean what I wrote above and I was not talking about solidarity in 1-2 model threads, but generally. And about intellectual honesty, I hinted that Nelly Kent scission myself, sure not manipulative.

[BlueShadow]

Is not a false claim asking why here you say you were curious to try the piss (she talked about this subject for first, not me) that you knew from the beginning that at the end of the scene you would end up with a pee in your mouth but then in the interview you say no, that you don't want to do it ...

Immediately lose your patience, start insulting, contradict yourself ...
This is already an answer more than enough for me, I already had an idea, now it is even clearer.
The only thing I didn't know is that she didn't like it (even these not my words).

Maybe I've been a little rude asking those things to a girl, well sorry.
But pointing out some incoherence not worth a gratuitous offense like stupid and low brain.
Topic closed.

[BlueShadow]

I would have preferred a little consideration when a model thinks she has the right to offend an user in all ways just because he asked a question and made some opinions.
(with someone who never misses an opportunity to exploit the situation and manipulate it, you know of who I'm talking about, when clearly the offenses comes from only one side)
Only Grey00owl showed some compassion and said that at least I'm intellectually honest.

This is another situation, I'd just send you a PM, Blue - and it would be sure more appropriate: There are posters with experience talking to porn girls as hot blooded as Nelly. She has shown herself that way before.

But never mind: I really mean what I wrote above and I was not talking about solidarity in 1-2 model threads, but generally. And about intellectual honesty, I hinted that Nelly Kent scission myself, sure not manipulative.

The manipulation of the things didn't came from her.
But I repeat. It's OK.

[BlueShadow]

Of course I don't want to play the role of the victim (even if I was offended and I never replied to these offenses with other offenses, it was a woman, but probably even if it were a man I would have done the same, find me only one post where I directly offending a users ...)
I asked a question, well aware that it would be understood as provocative.
But I read something incoherent, and it is stronger than me not to ask for explanations.
But you are not obliged to answer.
Asking is lawful, replying is courtesy.

[BlueShadow]

PS
Just thinking, imagine the opposite, me saying to her: stupid and low brain... Worse than WWII!

[robin_reid]

Yoo, why you deleted my post ? Angry about something ? The truth ?

Because you are an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. Robin didn't say that he worked without tests and I'm not going to let you use our forum to post this crap. The rest of your post I don't care about. I actually agree that his "work" will stand out for a while. Only problem is how it was executed.

I think idiots are poeple you Work with, and pay them. Posting Shootings @ Covid time, and Actors pushing bullshit in others... at the end you will loose Reputation, and maybe some income. If you dont Like it Ban my account and erase everything i wrote. Seriously so it !! Im done here.

I know my english isn’t good but still understandable. You need some reading comprehension. I did a comment that in a shootings 3 years ago in Budapest noone from production asked tests nor did copy or pic of it. Obviusly all performers had tests that we checked each other. Idiot

[Moxoxo]

I know my english isn’t good but still understandable. You need some reading comprehension. I did a comment that in a shootings 3 years ago in Budapest noone from production asked tests nor did copy or pic of it. Obviusly all performers had tests that we checked each other. Idiot

OK, sorry. I wrote to support to delete my account and posts. I will not come back. Sorry Robin. Mr. Xxx also sorry.

[proxy001]

Fuck you. All you have accomplished with your presence here is to endanger more people.

Nobody obliged you to involve yourself in a debate. Try to think this way when have your war with him. I laid back and take a rest while you do the same as I do from years.
I have a past on Eurobabetalkforum , and machomedia forum were shot down as I already told thanks to the same person. Those times I was on his side and did a great job protecting his image. I was enchanted, and guided by his manipulative personality. The 2 forums were those times very informative, and clean in matter of free speech.
But both forums had a big amount of evidences regarding my person could be a big help for me in my court case. As well a high amount of evidences could put him in trouble...Machomedia was Hungarian he could`nt handle so he convinced the owner better shot it down and took care of him. Take him as be part of his team as photographer in tropical productions, gave him another better life in exchange, and paid him well for years.I don@t know how he agreed withEurobabetalk, because they reopen as Eurobabeindex without the past forum evidences just at the moment my court case begun. The 4 months i was kept in pre-trial was enough these 2 forums be closed...
I have my past on the new EBI, and ADT forum as well where also he could manage things as he wish. Let`s not talk about the wcx it`s his own forum where he does what ever he wish, and he would be same on all forums.
It`s very common this in politics when about controlling the mass by the power of media.
I grew up in the communist dictatorship of the " Genius of the Carpathians" Nicolae Ceausescu in Romania. Since I learned to read and write at the school until the revolution in in 1989, when i was 23 years old, we had access only to fake news about outside of our country and read only newspapers with our country` "MASTER" how brave he is etc. Same of listening radio, or watching TV. We were punished when just questioning something. Jailed,persecuted,tortured, living in a continuous psychological terror.
Same images come to life in me since years since watching all this porn from outside and have my memories and past as an insider...
I have new experiences day by day when I feel how this affect my today`s life, how this nightmare does`nt come to an end whatever I do.
I was`nt here , nor on EBI, nowhere on forums, did`nt talked about porn for more of a year I think, until happen what happen to get involved again when Cayenne Klein decided to shoot again, we met and started to help her as she wished to get my help on it....
He could just ignore, but he had to start fight again.
He managed things as he wanted, could manipulate things to be his side with Cayenne ( i don`t really care after all), and he just continue fight with his own demons, demons created by his sic brain, demons he create every night when not sleeping enough, and will create in future until he does`nt get the right medical help.
You know what is common in these kinda genius, and psychopaths ? Their certitude, their perseverance in their obsession exhaust them once.
And than they accept the medical help.
BTW sorry if you feel I endangered you, I just did my debate, same as you do yours...
You do it since 1 week, I do mine since a decade with him, and couple more years before I did it for him with others, I should just because I was the first line fighter of his team. All shit he did in my country, I had to face it. All attacks were addressed to him, i had to fight back. I was threatened with dead, trapped, attacked by maffia when was next to him, and helped by him to be jailed and and convicted as a criminal with his help, because I followed his rules...
What more bad he can do to me ?
He took Cayenne to the police station to report me I`ve made her real name public on the internet ? The name is public already on the internet ? Connected to her stage name ? Yes. Enough to type on google. Or check wikipedia. Do you believe all this shit ? Police does favors to him ? Why should do ? He put someone call DDF and play the police to remove what they removed. Ok, was his right to make this happen, and it`s his right to behave his style, but it`s my right to believe or not, agree or not, as Evil pineapple said , to criticize or not.
He tried to trap me, or he really wished to pay me shot my mouth in future about him when changed those emails i exposed here in the other topic about him, he want again make them look as been fake, and not coming from him. Okay, who would send them, why would send them ? I said no to 10.000 Euro being a homeless, hidden behind a keyboard as he names me every day.
He should be just smart telling he tried make peace, he tried pay his bill, but no. He`s sick Ego does`nt let him act this way.
You have to accept 1 thing, there is no medicament for this illness.
Now You can take a break guys, he will start again target on me, You can take a rest
Let`s ask him who`s the black guy on the photos I posted in the other topic with those exclusive porn starlets of his (especially Gabriella Wolf his ex assistant) ?
Why he was meet in 2010 celebrating his birthday in Dubai the same guy was the main organisator of arab escort trips of East European models back in 2000`s is captured in photos ,video of well known escort girls, mixed with porn starlets connected to him, and his assistant (G.Wolf), and his actually wife ? And why he did`nt want show that photo of him and his wife with Matthew Barrett in front of Armani Club Dubai ? And the other photos were taken before at Amnesia Ibiza ? This guy is together with those girls in Cannes, in Marbella, in Dubai, Seychelles i a private jet, on yachts with other arab people ( probably very important, and rich) all together with same companions I mentioned before... ?
How Juliette Shine, Cayenne Klein they had the choice to visit Dubai the time I was jailed ? probably I organised their trip from the prison...(would`nt be surprised to get this answer).
Do he was in touch together with his wife with my models,while i was jailed ?
Is he still try to keep contact with all models I had and could have dangerous informations, evidences against him ?
Only few questions could distract his attention from attacking Blueshaddow, EvilPineapples, or xxx

[merle.melander]

That's a lot of text bruv.

[robin_reid]

I know my english isn’t good but still understandable. You need some reading comprehension. I did a comment that in a shootings 3 years ago in Budapest noone from production asked tests nor did copy or pic of it. Obviusly all performers had tests that we checked each other. Idiot

OK, sorry. I wrote to support to delete my account and posts. I will not come back. Sorry Robin. Mr. Xxx also sorry.

Don't need to make a drama, it is enough if you just pay attention at what you read.

[proxy001]

related to my last long comment...
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=24521&start=40
back to the shady business

[Ichimaru]

To be honest I don't care about any ethical complaints targeted at PW.

I happen to really like his older content. However, I rarely find any of his newer stuff interesting.

I much prefer Giorgios and Gonzo studios stuff which is why I continue to subscribe to LP

[BlueShadow]

I happen to really like his older content. However, I rarely find any of his newer stuff interesting.

I agree.
I said it some time ago, even times have changed, even if he try to maintain some reality an genuinity in the action is hard to get the 'vibe' of the older casting (with girls of nowadays, searching for advertisement for [spam] or ehm..other things... rarely real newcomer, or unaware of the camera and all), which was worth looking at, I have no problem saying it.
There are exceptions, like for all in this life, but today more video also takes place with already established (or anyway already in the biz) pornstars (and is not hard to find girls that already did anal, even on camera), it has nothing to do with the original concept. The scenes are more and more a 'more of the same'.

[proxy001]

yep. Mr.president should resign This would be good for all nation of porn. Less and less respect even from the let`s say fans of his early image, more and more skeletons falling out from his cupboard,interest rates of his unpaid bills are just growing. Time to write that book with the title " Me the Genius and the 6969 assholes, I fucked FIRST " with his Superman imitation photo on the cover. Would be a bestseller for sure.Could be the book in which we could find the most of the times published the words "me" "first", "best", and "ass".

[Ichimaru]

[/quote]
I agree.
I said it some time ago, even times have changed, even if he try to maintain some reality an genuinity in the action is hard to get the 'vibe' of the older casting (with girls of nowadays, searching for advertisement for [spam] or ehm..other things... rarely real newcomer, or unaware of the camera and all), which was worth looking at, I have no problem saying it.
There are exceptions, like for all in this life, but today more video also takes place with already established (or anyway already in the biz) pornstars (and is not hard to find girls that already did anal, even on camera), it has nothing to do with the original concept. The scenes are more and more a 'more of the same'.[/quote]

Agreed. Also, I don't like the way he shoots his newer stuff. He tends to use pov angles a lot now. Particularly in his wunf stuff but doesn't often use pov angles effectively. An exception to this is the pov throatpies he has shot in some of his wunf stuff which I did enjoy and wish LP could employ from time to time. If you haven't witnessed what I am talking about. He Basically gets the girl to give him a blowjob until he is about to cum and then forces the girls head down to the base of his cock until he has finished shooting down her throat. Also, I have a major fetish for high heels and kinky outfits. PW doesn't cater to this at all as the girls are naked from start to finish in the majority of his newer scenes

[BlueShadow]

Just here to say that be an homosexual is not a crime.
Homosexual/Gay it is not an insult and it is not defamation.


Calling someone gay 'not an insult'
'Neutral' term, no longer offensive


(ANSA) - Calling a straight person gay is not an insult anymore. The Cassation Court said that in today's historical context, the term "homosexual" has not kept "an intrinsically offensive meaning as, perhaps, might have been considered in the not-so-distant past". The court said the term has come into current use and relates to an individual's sexual preferences, taking on a "neutral character" which means it cannot harm anyone's reputation, even when it is directed at a heterosexual person.

______

Calling Someone 'Gay' Is No Longer Slander in New York
For centuries, some insults have been considered so offensive that a plaintiff didn’t have to prove harm in a defamation lawsuit—"gay" included.

Now, however, a New York state appeals court has followed other courts and rejected that rule, citing “this state’s well-defined public policy of protection and respect for the civil rights of people who are lesbian, gay or bisexual.”

The court’s decision came after a man in Binghamton, New York, sued a woman who repeated a rumor that he was gay in the hopes his girlfriend would break up with him. Mark Yonaty said the rumors destroyed his relationship with his girlfriend.

The issue for the appeals court is whether “gay” should still be considered automatically harmful to someone’s reputation. The New York court said that “gay” should no longer be included alongside the other four categories of per se defamation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/nyregion/court-rules-calling-someone-gay-is-not-defamatory.html?action=click&module=RelatedCoverage&pgtype=Article&region=Footer


Of course nothing to say regarding the other things like use of drug, be a pedophile etc.
Things that personally never said, but still worth a blackmail... But don't want to re-open the subject.

[xxx]

Here is a good video that talks about people like Woodman :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL_okcg9ETY

"The Aging Narcissist 3 things that happen as the Narcissist Ages"

"When they age the desperation they feel to maintain control in narcissistic supply manifests itself in truly disturbing and pathetic attempts : lies and manipulations. The mask begins to slip more and more as they age, and it might possibly fall off completely. And unfortunately they are unable to help themselves. They are incapable of change. They are incapable of self reflection. They are incapable of taking accountability and you will begin to see how truly pathetic their existence really is."

The entire thing is 100% spot on.

[BlueShadow]

Also this was quite interesting XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17gwc4oBImc
''WORDS THAT DESTROY A NARCISSIST//Are you dealing with a narcissist and want to know what phrases will destroy them, crush them or infuriate them? These are the words you should probably stay away from in order to protect yourself. Yes you can definitely use these words to make a narcissist miserable, shutdown the narcissist or turn the tables on the narcissist, but you have to be ready to suffer the consequences. This video is a must watch to find out the words that will hurt a narcissist and that a narcissist definitely doesn’t want to hear.
Sometimes it’s best not to say anything to them at all. Narcissists tend to feed off of our reactions and by reacting and saying the wrong thing only gives them fuel. They always seek drama and when you go gray rock, you are not giving them the supply they seek and they will eventually look for a more convenient source of supply.
Narcissist rage is actually scary! You do learn what words and phrases to avoid when you have to deal with them! Actually, narcs love conflict so they can argue. That's what they aim for. They are great litigators.''

[BlueShadow]

WOW. A lot of culture today. Best 13 min of tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAW1NS2Sspw

Narcissists deeply need to feel superior over you, and they take delight when you jump into the game of One-upmanship. Psychotherapist Dr. Les Carter describes 8 common ways the narcissist attempts to control you, then he explains how you can outsmart them in each episode by responding in ways they do not anticipate.
Dr. Les Carter is a best selling author and therapist who lives in Dallas, Tx. In the past 39 years he has conducted over 60,000 counseling sessions and many workshops and seminars.

[IndyPleco]

Here is a good video that talks about people like Woodman :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL_okcg9ETY

"The Aging Narcissist 3 things that happen as the Narcissist Ages"

"When they age the desperation they feel to maintain control in narcissistic supply manifests itself in truly disturbing and pathetic attempts : lies and manipulations. The mask begins to slip more and more as they age, and it might possibly fall off completely. And unfortunately they are unable to help themselves. They are incapable of change. They are incapable of self reflection. They are incapable of taking accountability and you will begin to see how truly pathetic their existence really is."

The entire thing is 100% spot on.

"They are not interested in any other version of reality other than the one that they've created."

Very accurate. The fact that on his forum he even goes so far as to merge two succeeding posts by the same user into one post tells you how obsessed he is with shaping everything to his reality (not even mentioning all the egregious editing and fake users he posts under to direct his own narrative).

[BlueShadow]

well, the banner with the superman figure is more than enough.
I mean,not even the profile of Cristian Ronaldo with 85 million followers is so narcissistic or ego centered.
Maybe the official account of the real Superman is close
<url removed>

[IndyPleco]

well, the banner with the superman figure is more than enough.
I mean,not even the profile of Cristian Ronaldo with 85 million followers is so narcissistic or ego centered.
Maybe the official account of the real Superman is close
<url removed>

That stuff is very on the nose, and obviously pathetic for anyone over the age of 5, but that control of the minutiae shows something is clearly wrong with him.

[Pineapples Studio]

Looks like Pierre mentioned me on his forum by name again and called out a couple of ny comments here, even though we have a "status quo." Okay, I will respond to these comments and then resume my radio silence regarding Woodman. I actually hate talking about this shit, so it is not difficult for me to hold up my end of the bargain at all. Apparently, it's not as easy for him...

Yes, I stated that he should be taken to court over the rape allegations from Lana Rhoades. She accused Woodman of coercing her into performing sex acts she had previously refused to do. If true, that would be a form of rape. I did not accuse him independently of rape and have no first-hand knowledge of the incident, but I did take the allegation from this performer seriously and felt that a proper trial would be warranted.

I also commented that I have heard rumors about about Woodman's "anal secret" from other people, which actually goes back many years to before I even discovered Sineplex, in the mid-2000's. Rumors about this have been floating around online for many years, including in this ancient thread from AdultDVDTalk, posted back in 2004. Since having some time in the industry, I have heard the same rumor from a couple of industry sources who I will not name here, for their protection. This was also not an independent accusation on my part, though I have heard of other producers using this dirty trick as well, so if it were true then he would certainly not be alone. (In fact, I'm pretty sure the U.S. anal starlet Taylor Rain once admitted to administering cocaine through her anus before most of her anal scenes, although I could be misremembering a rumor I once heard as a fact.)

There, I responded, and now I am gone again.