Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[BlueShadow]

This is a competition to see who is more rich and donate more money or what?? Because this is what it seems to imply according to his words. Wasn't it enough with just simply promote the campaign and make the donation as he already did? But no, he had to create this absurd drama to throw shit at his enemies and to try to look like the good one. It is also very despicable and disgusting when he says bullshits about if Kay spoke bad about Rocco or about if Kay wanted kick his ass next time he will meet him etc, + that he also has it recorded, because this could have even an adverse effect on the donation. Hateful and bitter as fuck, not able to shut up even in delicate moments like this one.

yes, and this sentence, my Godness, this sentence: "I did it on purpose YES not because I am a narcissic but just because I was expecting at least some of my haters so rich as they are will be proud to show they can give more than me but my dream to touch their egos was useless"

what would change in his pathological narcissist head if the name BlueShadow: 10,000€/$ appeared... LOL

then "touch the ego"? The only one whose ego is touched is his own. What did he want after the 1,000€/$? A medal?
Narcissists need to feel superior....so, now you are superior, you have given more than others. Now shut up and mourn your loss. Oh, yes, he doesn't care in truth. Poor guy, he can't feel emotions.
This guy is a shitbag. And even more stupid than I thought. In this way he shows ONCE AGAIN how he behave... always with double intent and in sneaky way. But this can work with the sheeps he has to deal with...

[Panorama]

It's actually good that he carries on with this because it's making him look more and more ridiculous. Hopefully, his fans are getting an even bigger picture about this man's character and how they would do better to just stay away from him.
I'm admiring how this "Vianeta" is standing up to Woodman, however (as I'm sure he'll begin to understand) he's farting against thunder here and he's never going to get through to him. In fact, I bet he's the next one to get booted if he insists on this course of behaviour.

Meanwhile in other news:
Remember what we were talking about when I called Pierre a liar and a hypocrite....as well as his many, many other titles? Well, I'll just leave this here.

[BlueShadow]

It's actually good that he carries on with this because it's making him look more and more ridiculous. Hopefully, his fans are getting an even bigger picture about this man's character and how they would do better to just stay away from him.
I'm admiring how this "Vianeta" is standing up to Woodman, however (as I'm sure he'll begin to understand) he's farting against thunder here and he's never going to get through to him. In fact, I bet he's the next one to get booted if he insists on this course of behaviour.

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Meanwhile in other news:
Remember what we were talking about when I called Pierre a liar and a hypocrite....as well as his many, many other titles? Well, I'll just leave this here.

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He will banned soon if he keep it up.
He doesn't know that narcissist never think they are wrong.

[robin_reid]

This psycho, as usual, has not missed an opportunity to propagandize for himself and against his enemies even in a tragic moment like this. Unfortunate and sad at the same time.

[Panorama]

Again Robin its Pierre trying to put the spotlight on himself and getting it..... Just for all the wrong reasons. As usual, he wheels out his favourite alter-ego "xmanx" to try and stroke his poor battered ego. In actual fact, what would have been "Classy" of him would have been to remain dignified and calm. Instead, we got the usual hysterical drama queen that is Pierre Woodman. Yes Pierre if you'd stayed quiet people may have criticized you, a decent person would have taken that on the chin and known within themselves that they behaved in a manner that their deceased friend would have been proud of. You ARE behaving like a child and it's not just me telling you, it's your own MEMBERS! (Notice: how Pierre refers to HIMSELF as being the most popular amongst "HIS ENTOURAGE OF FRIENDS" Dictionary meaning being: "a group of people attending or surrounding an important person". . . Pierre being THAT person!

But, moving on to something a little lighter.
All the comments by Woodman in the posts below were all done one after the other by him yesterday afternoon. Reading his posts along with the comments expressed by the members in the girl's threads doesn't give you a good sense of how Woodman takes his members for the fools they are. But If you then take just his final comments each one in each thread you see that he is telling them what they want to hear while actually giving them absolutely NOTHING.
So, I decided to actually put the honest answer to the questions seeing how Pierre is completely incapable of telling the truth!

......Actually. In his last reply, he answered a member when they asked if a scene would be shown and he actually told the TRUTH!!...... But the answer was still... NO!!

KEEP PAYING THOSE SUBSCRIPTIONS SUCKERS!!!

(*** By the way another little birdie has told me that you've been poking around trying to find out who "Panorama" is at the circus. I've told you before Pierre you will NEVER know who I am, (unless you actually grow some balls and agree to meet me in Cairo!) I'm nobody you know, so stop poking.***)

[sumacs3]

I thought I was the only "Columbo of Porn" in my worldwide webquest to collect hard-to-find older DVDs of favorite models. But with all of these interesting posts, it looks like there are actually quite a few "Columbo's of Porn" out there! Thanks.

[ValenciaCF]

He was publicly called out and shamed on social media recently and he was dumb enough to even retweet that stuff about him to his followers lololol
Another thing is that a screenshot of 'Barbara Bieber' saying that Pierre was rude to her and wanted to do a scene she was not comfortable with, was posted on social media.
PW then goes on his forum to bash the girl 6 years later. Initially he attacked her on her thread 6 years ago saying she had ugly breasts and pussy lips, all because she refused to do a scene with him, picking on her appearance, making himself look more ridiculous and further proving the point of what was told to him on how he bashes girls. He really is an idiot!

[ValenciaCF]

But he forgets that it's HER who rejected him... and not HIM that decided not to work with her
He speaks so much lies because his ego is hurt now so he had to pick on her appearance like a weak man. How low can a man go to try and make a girl feel ugly. It's why nobody should ever work with a man like this. So bitter,hateful and cruel. It's so typical of him!!! I'm sure she never lose any sleep to work with his fat, hairy ass and limp dick, scared to even take his shirt off and he says he's happy not to work woth her. No Pierre...you tried to work with her and she didn't want a disgusting ogre like you.

[robin_reid]

Two of the comments that I've read there with more common sense.

[robin_reid]

Really what Woodman did is a total mess. Just after Kay passed away and the interview to Rocco, him like a jelous kid talking bullshits and even putting on the Kay’s mouth that he wanted to kick the ass of Rocco etc… Whether true or not, that’s a total lack of respect not only to Rocco but to Kay Taylor.

[sumacs3]

I think I am going to unsubscribe to this thread as I get all your points. Thanks.
I may be wrong but I don't see how all these posts are likely to change PW.
I worry more for you guys going on about this and how it affects your own lives.
But this thread is certainly quite a record of things.

[Panorama]

I think I am going to unsubscribe to this thread as I get all your points. Thanks.
I may be wrong but I don't see how all these posts are likely to change PW.
I worry more for you guys going on about this and how it affects your own lives.
But this thread is certainly quite a record of things.

You are so right sumacs3!!

Nothing we say here is going to change Pierre Woodman one little bit. I never in a thousand years believed that I would achieve anything like that. The fact that you "get it" is much like preaching to the converted isn't it? But there are people out there, average Jo's and more importantly MODELS who know nothing about Pierre Woodman. I have got plenty going on in my life and unfortunately, I've got this need to pursue Woodman and try and get any tiny little victory I can from the man because I'm not someone who can just sit by and do nothing. Everything that man say's and does that makes HIM look like the vile piece of work he is, needs to be recorded for EVERYONE to see.
Maybe it's to the detriment of my own mental health who knows?!! But so far I've managed to show 5 models who were considering seeing Woodman the kind of character they were going to see. And they haven't been to see him. I know that some of his members have seen what I've written and maybe they too have thought better of staying members of his site. That's why I do this, that's why I will continue to do this. Yeah it's repetitive, yes it shows how rabid I am, and if you don't want to read it I don't mind you blocking me or skipping whatever I write, but as long as I'm allowed to contribute here by the owners of this forum, and as long as I believe I'm doing SOMETHING I'm going to. That's my take on it.

With that out of the way, I ask Valencia could Barbara not sue Woodman over the name he gave her? (or any other models for that matter, there was one he called "Alice Dumb"?) Surely they could claim they lost work because of the negative publicity he gave them simply for turning him down?
In other news:
In this thread we see Pierre providing us with the peaceful utopia that is Hungary. (By the way. Clever camera work Pierre blurring out everyone and everything, we don't want to get sued by anyone who DOESN'T want to be associated with you do we?)

Comparing a children's day in some sleepy village in Hungary against a bunch of drunken idiots on New Years' Eve or a football match in the centre of Paris is a little like comparing Children's day to a football match with Hungary isn't it Pierre?

Don't worry about me sumacs, I'm beyond help.

[sumacs3]

Don't worry about me sumacs, I'm beyond help.

But you do have a passion for something (besides porn!), a passion for a cause, which a lot of people don't.
And even if it wears one down, it makes life worth living, and often makes life exciting.
Good that you are getting some results, too.
But I still admit that I am going to shamelessly watch my Wendy.

[robin_reid]

The most rude and disrespectful people I have ever seen have been in Hungary. 99% (maybe 100%) of the models that I have sometimes sent to Hungary or that told me that been in Hungary, then they never wanted to come back even if they had job proposals, some of them came back because needed job, but others didn’t, they had bad experiences on set with umpolite producers/porn crews and umpolite/racist/jealous hungarian models, bad experiences on the street, when shooping etc. Hungary is not an example of anything, isn’t any paradise as Woodman tries to make us see. I'm sorry if some hungarian reads me but it's the reality, also I know very nice and cool hungarian people, but they are few exceptions. And in case there is any doubt, I am a person who has traveled a lot in the past and interacted with people from multiple nationalities, I’ve been in European countries, many times to Latin America, in Asia like China, HK, etc… I know what I am talking about.

[ValenciaCF]

I think I am going to unsubscribe to this thread as I get all your points. Thanks.
I may be wrong but I don't see how all these posts are likely to change PW.
I worry more for you guys going on about this and how it affects your own lives.
But this thread is certainly quite a record of things.

You're on the wrong forum. Byebye!!!

[ValenciaCF]

He say a million times to his members he doesn't read the forum but obviously he does and gets caught in a lie when he mentions all what that guy posted is on this forum. How else would he know Bwahahahahah because obviously he can't resist to read this forum because his OCD and paranoia make him do it

Well... Vianeta did get banned also
Paranoid Woodman thinks everyone is from the Circus. We are on his mind 24/7 making his brain explode which makes me so happy that he grind his teeth everyday. But unfortunately he kicked one of his own members, not one of us whem he speaks about anger and rage I'm pretty sure he always describes himself.

[ValenciaCF]

He's so narcissistic and egotist constantly trying to put attention to himsElf because nobody give him. Why he must put his name on the donation and TELL people? Ehy he must trll on his forum that Kai's family thanked him? He's constsntly seeking attention and approval to satisfy his self importance. Never come across a more self centred perwon in my whole life. But this man takes the cake. The level of his narcissism is unlimited. He always has this desperate need to talk about himself. I feel sad for him. Anybody reading his comments can tell he's a narcissist. Other pornstars like Nesty also donated but she didn't tell anyone or say that Kai's family thanked her but he HAVE TO SAY IT to show people he did something useful lololol

[ValenciaCF]

And why he must lie that he is in touch with Kai's family??? He's a serial liar pretending he is close with everyone. Why will Kai's family communicate with Woodman when he's porn producer??? So now he is friends with the family also??? This mam have no friemds im his life that he invents them in his mind.
Maybe he should go to fuck off!!! Telling lies that Blue Angel will say the true story and shit on Rocco for not being his friend. Lets see then.... we will wait forrver like your imaginary video for Liz rainbow because Blue Angel will say nothing about Rocco.

[robin_reid]

And why he must lie that he is in touch with Kai's family??? He's a serial liar pretending he is close with everyone. Why will Kai's family communicate with Woodman when he's porn producer??? So now he is friends with the family also???

Something like when he brags that he is in touch with the families of those young poor hungarian girls that he pays also their dental treatment… What else?

[Panorama]

But you do have a passion for something (besides porn!), a passion for a cause, which a lot of people don't.
And even if it wears one down, it makes life worth living, and often makes life exciting.
Good that you are getting some results, too.
But I still admit that I am going to shamelessly watch my Wendy.

Oh good lord yeah, I have other passions Sumacs! It's just that being a pain in the arse (excuse the pun!) to Pierre Woodman has now become one of them. Too many times in life people like Woodman are left alone to do what they do un-checked and un-scrutinized. I'm the kind of person that when I have a bone, I have a bone and I will not let go. I have been in contact with models, members, companies, venue providers, and even governments enquiring and reminding them of Pierre Woodman. Yes, I could be doing other stuff, but I feel I'm achieving something. I'm often told by models that they are going to see him regardless of what I say, and you know what I'm cool with that. I've done my part I've done all I can do. Same with his members such as you. I can fully understand your admiration for him, you choose not to see the monster because you love Wendy and how she was able to let herself go. I totally get that, to see a woman who completely gives into her primal feelings genuinely is a remarkable thing to witness. You'd have to admire a man who can reduce a woman to that.

BUT.

I know Woodman will use the top part of that declaration to show his members how "the circus" cannot decide whether he is good or bad. But you have to remember the whole, not just the one. This man has persuaded some of the most naive and desperate models to do utterly degrading things. Those women who gave in to his manipulation did not know at the time that he violated their privacy by recording them. That is unforgivably shameful. That is why the vast stock of Woodman's video library will never be seen regardless of his constant "carrot dangling" for his members.

He has humiliated far more women than he has given pleasure to. He has ended careers, he has ruined careers, and he has certainly played **A PART** in some tragic losses. There will always be sick individuals out there who love to see young women degraded and humiliated and they will always be Woodman fans willing to look at him as "the master" no matter how I try to convince them. But I hope I can reach out to those who actually care about women, care about other human beings, and care about what Woodman has done over the years and see how being a PAYING member is giving him the green light to continue doing what he has always done.
I could be wrong, but I feel you admire Woodman more than you dislike him (like we do) because of what I mentioned above, and you shouldn't feel guilty about that if you're happy within yourself. Maybe you came here because you were just curious, maybe you came just to try and find answers. I usually find Canadians are very level headed people and look at things objectively, I'm sure you'll find your answer you need one way or the other.

[sumacs3]

I could be wrong, but I feel you admire Woodman more than you dislike him (like we do) because of what I mentioned above, and you shouldn't feel guilty about that if you're happy within yourself. Maybe you came here because you were just curious, maybe you came just to try and find answers. I usually find Canadians are very level headed people and look at things objectively, I'm sure you'll find your answer you need one way or the other.

Thanks, Panorama. I admire Woodman for the two Wendy videos, especially the second one where both were really at home with each other and enjoying themselves in a way I have seen in no other adult videos. i have only purchased two of his videos, the two with Wendy. The rest of the stuff that I have seen "elsewhere" by him doesn't really impress me, and it seems like something is "off" about many of them, although not always easy to pinpoint. I have stayed a member, although no payment is involved, to learn something more about Wendy, whom I find a very interesting person. She has been a pianist, a dancer, etc.

I think that if every other member only purchased videos in which both participants had the time of their lives, as Wendy and PW did, then maybe PW would make those only. So in an odd but not unreasonable sense, I have financially supported the kind of videos we would like PW to make. Perhaps I expect too much discretion on the part of the other members!

I am only recently learning about the whole "PW World," thanks to this thread, and that Hungary is not the greatest place to be, etc. So I have stayed on, despite being ByeByed.

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Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman):

"I would like just some people do not try use the death of Kai Taylor to promote themselves !!!"
"It's amazing how many assholes surround us and how when you die so many of them pretend they were your friend just to make a show for themselves"
We ALL know with a narcissistic prick like gerbier that EVERYTHING he accuses others in fact always applies to him!

Meanwhile.....

Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) and his aliases such as jean: 26 posts about Himself and how good generous in money HE was and how goed of a buddy HE was for Kai Taylor & addidional mud throwing posts against his "haters" and "enemies" like Rocco Siffredi.

It's not the first time Pierre andre nicolas gerbier shamelessly uses the tragic death of people to do self-promotion.

Rocco Siffredi mudthrowing/self-promotion posts on social media regarding kai tailor: 0 posts.

Be assured that pierre andre nicolas gerbier is watching EVERY day on that gofund me page if somebody donated more than him LOL.

Talking about self-promotion and shamelessly using one's tragic suicide to make money which he says he hates, pierre andre nicolas gerbier quickly edits and uploads the last scene kai taylor supposedly made. He then makes self-promotion on it EVERWHERE on social media and his forum.

So, normally it takes years and years to post a scene/update after it has been shot, not he quickly edits and uploads is...

why???

Simple, marketing, self-promotion and making money off the back of a dead "friend": "see kai's last scene". It's the same reason why after a musician dies, quickly new unreleased or best of material is being released to make a profit.
And besides, pierre andre nicolas gerbier must get back the 1000 he donated to kai's go fund me page LOL. This motherfucker probably asks for a tax refund too for this 1000 bucks LOL.

I thought this french motherfucker said that he hated self-promotion after a "friend" died?!

BTW, what is 1000 euros for a multi-millionaire????????
It's the same amount gerbier paid for the four teeth he purchased for virginy lovely among others. Hungary is the cheapest in Europe for fake teeth: https://www.dentaldepartures.com/info/veneers/hungary So, again, just like with buying teeth for models, paying 1000 euros and telling the world through the gofundme and on forums you did it is a small amout for the money he'll get in return for the last scene of kai he "conveniently" posted a short while after this guy took his own life. If gerbier is so concerned that the family of kai in Australia does not have money for a plane ticket + hotel to attend the funeral, then YOU pay yourself if you think nobody does it you lobotomized multi-millionaire!!!!!

[Mr_K]

The only thing I envy Pierre is the fact that he had a lot of Arabs whore with him... what a mess
It would have been much better for her to be here !

[sumacs3]

Step 1?

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[robin_reid]

Step 1?

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Don’t believe in this bullshit, after that date he will continue breaking the will of girls, fucking and abusing them.

[sumacs3]

“When dealing with [most] people, let us remember we are not dealing with creatures of logic. We are dealing with creatures of emotion, creatures bristling with prejudices and motivated by pride and vanity.” - Dale Carnegie

This may help us all understand each other better.

[Panorama]

Talking about self-promotion and shamelessly using one's tragic suicide to make money which he says he hates, pierre andre nicolas gerbier quickly edits and uploads the last scene kai taylor supposedly made. He then makes self-promotion on it EVERWHERE on social media and his forum. So, normally it takes years and years to post a scene/update after it has been shot, not he quickly edits and uploads is...why???
Simple, marketing, self-promotion and making money off the back of a dead "friend": "see kai's last scene". It's the same reason why after a musician dies, quickly new unreleased or best of material is being released to make a profit.
And besides, pierre andre nicolas gerbier must get back the 1000 he donated to kai's go fund me page LOL. This motherfucker probably asks for a tax refund too for this 1000 bucks LOL.

Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p......... Yet another great observation! What you describe there is all Woodman. Profit for himself is hidden amongst false concerns for others.

The only thing I envy Pierre is the fact that he had a lot of Arabs whore with him... what a mess
It would have been much better for her to be here !

I feel he may yet pay for the wrongs he's committed against the Muslim people Ms_k.

So I have stayed on, despite being ByeByed.

sumacs, what you have to remember is that Valencia, Robin, and Blue are, or have been in or around the porn industry and have had close dealings with Woodman. They know him probably better than he knows himself. I'm sure there is also rivalry and bitterness in there as well that makes them passionate about getting rid of him. So anyone who appears to "big him up" is not going to attract favourable comments from them and with good reason. Hell, I'm amazed I haven't been told "bye-bye" on a number of occasions. ! !
But the beauty of this forum is that unlike that last Woodman member who was told by Pierre to "Fuck off" this weekend (great way to treat the members you have left Pierre by the way!) and was summarily booted from the forum, that doesn't happen here. The thread is about how much of a bastard Woodman is so posting about why you admire him is going to attract negative comments. But I'm all for letting people say why they admire the guy because at least they can look around at these 80 pages and see why their thoughts about him are wrong. It also gives us the opportunity to talk to them and try to explain why we are so passionate about it instead of simply booting them from the forum where they're most likely going to be no wiser, and up staying loyal to Woodman.

I knew nothing about Woodman, I only joined his site to see a model I knew about. It was only after I watched some of his videos, and read his thoughts on the forum that I came to the conclusion that this is one very sick individual that needed stopping, but should also pay for all the many, many wrongs he's done and believe me he has done MANY. I feel appalled at myself that I bought two months' membership to his site because I felt my money paid for the dignity and souls of all those young models he betrayed the trust of. I see those models as people, flesh and blood people, not just commodities that can be used and simply discarded like Woodman so expertly does.

If I had advice, I'd say don't just just take our word for it, go read some of his posts, ( Stella Cox, Lana Rhodes, Jitka, Misha Cross, Freya dee, ALYSSA KENT, Josephine Jackson, Ginebra, Ivi Rein, Zlata Shine, Marketa Belonoha,) just to name a few that I know of. Go to some of the pirate sites and watch his videos, you'll find there is far more about him and his practices that are way more than just "a little off".
Your quote from Dale Carnegie is very true, but when confronted with right and wrong, I feel one has to be logical and stand up to what you feel is wrong. If I'm emotional doing it, then so be it.

[sumacs3]

[If I had advice, I'd say don't just just take our word for it, go read some of his posts, ( Stella Cox, Lana Rhodes, Jitka, Misha Cross, Freya dee, ALYSSA KENT, Josephine Jackson, Ginebra, Ivi Rein, Zlata Shine, Marketa Belonoha,) just to name a few that I know of. Go to some of the pirate sites and watch his videos, you'll find there is far more about him and his practices that are way more than just "a little off".
Your quote from Dale Carnegie is very true, but when confronted with right and wrong, I feel one has to be logical and stand up to what you feel is wrong. If I'm emotional doing it, then so be it.

Yours is a very helpful post. Thank you, Panorama.
I shall try to get a more comprehensive view from looking at other "data."
l shall also try to be more considerate of the history of the interactions of fellow posters with PW.
I admit I do not want to go through 80 pages of this stuff, though, and probably won't!

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

Click to read:

-Gerbier tactic: restaurants - brainwash - reading forums / social media with models (often fake messages he created himself in order to set up a favourable narrative).
-Inside gerbier's lobotomized chicken brain: all (middle age) men are "haters" and "jealous" because they see 2 old bald fatmen fuck young porn actresses. We already saw that he did it with Kriss the Foxx (and now she is dead. I can imagine it wasn't helpfull to her weak state of mind if you also have to deal with a bully like gerbier who probably send her millions of passive-aggressive what's app to ask her why she was making him look like a clown on social media).

Funny conversation on Eurobabeforum (click on the thumbnail to read it):

-Member MarekNov (fruitlessly) trying to give gerbier a wake-up call saying ALL his fucks with young women are PAID and NEVER EVER for free. Which is all 100% true. It's a fantasy story of this tooth fairy from Budapest that young teenagers go to him for the experience LOL and that they come to his shabby hotel room for the experience to get sodomized and relinquish their right to get paid for their sex services.
-Inside gerbier's lobotomized chicken brain: everyone is "jealous" that grandpa can have sex with young broke girls.
-Inside gerbier's lobotomized chicken brain: If there is a camera in the room whilst having sex, it's not escort services.
-Inside gerbier's lobotomized chicken brain: many models like volpetti hate perfect sporty style men because most of the time very arrogants and narcisstic. Fucking hell! LOL! This narcisstic prick talks about himself again! News flash. Models PREFER to have sex with good looking men of their own age you dumb motherfucker, no matter what they say. BUT they CAN/WILL have sex with fat slobs like you because it's their fucking JOB you nut case!!
By the way, in this message gerbier is once again arrogant enough to confess HIGH PRESSURE TACTICS like Louis Theroux already mentioned.
Gerbier explains the forum readers that after stalking a young teenager for 3 fucking months on the phone to be able to sodomize this young teenager in the asshole, he managed to succeed.
Indeed, he's a "bastard that breaks the will of the girls", like he shared with the world already! and on top of it she does it for the experience without money being any motivating factor, because, probably, as he often said on his forum that models have whispered in his ears during sex, she thinks he's "handsome".

Like gerbier said in the documentary with louis theroux upon being asked about the "high pressure tactics": "you expect me to change something I do for 30 years already"? No way!

Click to read:

-Pierre andre nicolas gerbier: "I can understand the look of Deloin or mine can be repulsive"
Finally gerbier is not telling some lies...

Again, bashing wgcz/ tube sites with false claims. Another lie by gerbier that xxx can use for his defamation lawsuit agains this peasant.
-There are NO woodmancasting / wunf videos to be find on wgcz's tube sites. NONE. Proof it gerbier.
-There is NO proof this business is being used as a "washing machine"/ Proof it gerbier.
-There is NO proof that legalporno/analvids does not make enough money/ does not have enough subscribers or token buyers to be able to fund itself and that it can solely exists because of the "washing machine" which are the tube sites accoring to gerbier. Proof it gerbier.

Again, what about yourself gerbier, what is your site a front of? As if your business is all that clean gerbier.

[sumacs3]

^ It seems odd that it would take PW a whole 3 months to convince a highly desirable anal virgin to come over and enjoy it without pain, with money only a secondary consideration. (???)

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Click on the thumbnail to read:
May 16th, 2022:

Source: https://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic ... 75#p476731
But rest assured, he will feel like his "casanova skills" are responsible to ultimately "convince" (=pressure) the girl to meet up with him. In his chiken brain it has nothing to do with the fact that he stalked a young teenager for 3!! months on the phone with the use of high pressure tactics to convince her to get sodomized "for fun", "for the experience", without money involved. This girl must love necrophilia if she travels all the way to a dark hotel room to get fucked up the butt by 2 walking corpses (gerbier and deloin) "for fun" and without financial compensation being part of the deal....

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By the way, gerbier keeps coming across as individual with very low IQ in his fights agains tube sites. lazy gerbier should take some time to research how pornbox and xvideos actually operate. legalporno as a whole is dead. it never existed and will never exist. legalporno (now analvids/pornbox) is a site which hosts videos of INDEPENDANT porn studios who are NOT paid nor exployed by wgcz. through a formulation, wgcz gets a fee from these INDEPENDANT studios/directors/producers for being allowed to upload/sell their stuff to pornbox, which simply is a container for independent people to share their stuff in a concentrated shopping mall. Independant content makers make money through that formulation depending on the sales.
Just like people sharing THEIR content on amazon (authors allowing their books to be sold on amazon), youtube (content creaters sharing their videos), clips4sale, photo site flickr (people sharing their photos) it does not mean that amazon/youtube/flickr is the content owner and that the providers/authors/photographers are employees. GET THIS IN YOUR FUCKING SKULL YOU LOW IQ WORM!!!! Xvideos primarily works the same. Your view could have been partly true over a decade ago you sucker, but xv has developed unlike your chicken brain. xvideos is a host site where millions of (verified) content OWNERS have their own channels (like on this site: https://pornbox.com/application/studio/list) and where they make money for THEMSELVES! Here: https://www.xvideos.com/channels-index It's not a container for illegally and anonymously sharing copyright material. So, what is the big "washing machine" where gerbier keeps spreading false innuendos about?! It does not exist. The stuff you see on tube sites are pretty much all shared by CONTENT OWNERS with their consent. They run the business, not wgcz. If there is something which could be there without copyright owners' consent and they don't like it, they can simply claim copyright infrigement: https://info.xvideos.com/content/ and it's gone within 24 hours. Besides, anonymous people can't upload any longer and the false narrative that it's full of rape videos and child porn is also only in gerbier's dumb fucks imagination.

Why does gerbier not go after telegram (channels) or yandex which are full of child porn?? Why does gerbier not go after tiktok/insta where teenagers (+13) are exploiting themselves and where pedo's go to masturbate over these sexy dances that these children make? wasn't gerbier always so so so concerned about these poor children? The truth is simple. he does not go after the aforementioned parties because they do not harm his personal interests and business. pornbox/wgcx is harming his business in all sorts of forms, e.g. personal fights with xxx/wgcx, less models, less sales due to pornbox offering higher quality content compared to his etc. its all about money with gerbier and spreading lies. Soon, this obese self-proclaimed women abuser who breaks the will of women for over 30 years using high pressure tactics will get be behind bars. no doubt about that.

[robin_reid]

Again, bashing wgcz/ tube sites with false claims. Another lie by gerbier that xxx can use for his defamation lawsuit agains this peasant.
-There are NO woodmancasting / wunf videos to be find on wgcz's tube sites. NONE. Proof it gerbier.
-There is NO proof this business is being used as a "washing machine"/ Proof it gerbier.
-There is NO proof that legalporno/analvids does not make enough money/ does not have enough subscribers or token buyers to be able to fund itself and that it can solely exists because of the "washing machine" which are the tube sites accoring to gerbier. Proof it gerbier.

Again, what about yourself gerbier, what is your site a front of? As if your business is all that clean gerbier.

All the main porntubes gets every day tons of contents uploaded by companies + independant creators that have their channels there and they get monetization and traffic. They don’t need to piracy anything. It's the same loser excuse/argument like when he says that girls in general prefer to fuck 60yo men like him instead than younger boys when the reality is that either in escort service or porn shooting they fuck with those paunchy old men just for money.

[sumacs3]

^ Something doesn't add up, though.
If PW has a low IQ, and has committed many wrongs, why is he still able to do his thing, and so publicly?
It seems that any other person like him would have been "removed from office" long ago.
Is it to do with Hungary? He has been in other countries, of course.
I don't get it. -- Thanks

[Panorama]

^ It seems odd that it would take PW a whole 3 months to convince a highly desirable anal virgin to come over and enjoy it without pain, with money only a secondary consideration. (???)

Words from his own mouth sumacs, stick around long enough and you'll see that he puts his foot in it more often than not. Constantly calling someone and pestering them on the phone is called harassment/stalking in most countries and you can be arrested for it. No doubt the young woman in question will have said "NO" to begin with, in the west that now means NO, period, in Hungary however that law doesn't really seem to apply when you "know" the right people, which brings me to......

Something doesn't add up, though. If PW has a low IQ, and has committed many wrongs, why is he still able to do his thing, and so publicly? It seems that any other person like him would have been "removed from office" long ago. Is it to do with Hungary? He has been in other countries, of course. I don't get it. -- Thanks

Pierre was known and travelled all over the world sumacs, but as the world changed and Pierre did not he's found it increasingly hard to get away with his tactics in the west. He won't travel to the U.S. anymore because women have accused him of rape (not proven) But in one of his casings he did with a model called Serenity Haze you can clearly hear her say "No stop" and "No stop it hurts" but Woodman continued. THAT alone can see him in jail in the U.S. He won't risk going back. (Ironically, Woodman used that video to show that he DIDN'T abuse her!!!!) So, to answer your question. He would probably be behind bars if he travelled to lots of different countries now (don't forget I've been in contact with some of their consulates Pierre!) But he now resides in Hungary, one of the most corrupt countries on the planet and the only country he can now safely operate. (The bull shit about it's where his family feels safe is a lie, it's the place where HE feels safe)

Oh, and I'm not convinced he has low IQ sumacs, far from it. He is very clever, calculating, and where models are concerned very dangerous.

[sumacs3]

^ Thanks, Panorama. The word "convince" is often used for what needs to be done:
"I convinced her to do the right thing."

[robin_reid]

Why does gerbier not go after telegram (channels) or yandex which are full of child porn?? Why does gerbier not go after tiktok/insta where teenagers (+13) are exploiting themselves and where pedo's go to masturbate over these sexy dances that these children make? wasn't gerbier always so so so concerned about these poor children? The truth is simple. he does not go after the aforementioned parties because they do not harm his personal interests and business.

Because he probably jerk off watching this stuff

[BlueShadow]

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Speaking of dumb comment
What about here? When PW says that he was expecting for Ginebra Bellucci a better ''career'' for this ''perfect angel'' (just because she didn't listen to him to not make anal right away for other productions ('cause it's no good for her career) also for LP/AV. The usual ''self serving advice'')?


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But let's see this bad and unprolific career of Ginebra Bellucci:



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And here? PW may not have been rude to say these things on a public forum? (not that it matters what egoman says, as we can see from how many productions Ginebra worked) After he called her perfect ANGEL...the here he says exactly the opposite ahahahah and you give credit to this clown.


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and what about here mr. JDR, since you like to be such a paladin... here PW wasn't rude with these comments about a model?




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and here, with Kitana Lure?


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here with Misha Cross saying she will never be Lana Rhoades etc. (after he bashed also Lana Rhoades btw, this clown )


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and here?? Maybe he was nice to Ivy Rein, bashing her just because she doesn't want to work for him?


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And also here...he was professional making fun of a girl exposing her in this way? And also call her ''Dumb''? C'mon...whats your opinion mr. JDR (aka PW probably)??


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Here instead for sure he wasn't RUDE with Zlata Shine, right? (always because she refused to work there, and certainly Zlata Shine has no problem working with any production in Budapest, Prague, Barcelona... even if she didn't start with anal in the hotel rooms of PW...




So 1-before you talk about rude comments, look at your own house first.
2- that last sentence about "history proves..." you can shove it up your ass, you'll make better use of it. And excuse me for being ''rude''.

[Panorama]

Ah "JDR" or should I say Pierre?

Did you know that if you keep convincing yourself that something is true, it actually does become truthful??

Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world can just read your Virginy thread and see the truth for ourselves. As for Henessy, well let's be honest Pierre she really was going to become famous one way or the other. You played *0* part in her fame as you haven't in ANY other adult stars' career. Just because you were "the first" to sodomize them doesn't mean you were the first to build their careers. You and every other producer (even ones at the "circus") are NOTHING. It's the models themselves that shine and make you lot look great. Take your latest failure, the ill-fated Only Fans attempt, yet another failure to go along with your poor directing, poor acting, and poor producing. You made your money from the hard work of professional models and the humiliation, degradation and souls of newcomers, you live in a fantasy world of stardom that you do not deserve.
That is why you are now completely irrelevant in the adult industry, your fame was made over 30 years ago, and it's dwindled ever since. In 30 years' time, Henessy, Jenna Jameson, Suzie Carina, Anetta Keys, Silvia Saint, and many many more will be forever be remembered. Alas, you will not.

Saw this the other day and it made me think. I wonder what life is really like in Budapest and whether this would sound familiar to Soph? Let me know, Gaby has my contact.

[BlueShadow]

Ah "JDR" or should I say Pierre?

Did you know that if you keep convincing yourself that something is true, it actually does become truthful??

Meanwhile, the rest of us in the real world can just read your Virginy thread and see the truth for ourselves. As for Henessy, well let's be honest Pierre she really was going to become famous one way or the other. You played *0* part in her fame as you haven't in ANY other adult stars' career. Just because you were "the first" to sodomize them doesn't mean you were the first to build their careers. You and every other producer (even ones at the "circus") are NOTHING. It's the models themselves that shine and make you lot look great. Take your latest failure, the ill-fated Only Fans attempt, yet another failure to go along with your poor directing, poor acting, and poor producing. You made your money from the hard work of professional models and the humiliation, degradation and souls of newcomers, you live in a fantasy world of stardom that you do not deserve.
That is why you are now completely irrelevant in the adult industry, your fame was made over 30 years ago, and it's dwindled ever since. In 30 years' time, Henessy, Jenna Jameson, Suzie Carina, Anetta Keys, Silvia Saint, and many many more will be forever be remembered. Alas, you will not.

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Saw this the other day and it made me think. I wonder what life is really like in Budapest and whether this would sound familiar to Soph? Let me know, Gaby has my contact.

And he continues to lie...did you notice the last tweet? "Her first anal" he said... and the members maybe believe it...