Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Wed May 06, 2020 1:48 am

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We already knew that he doesn't play by the rules,but is he a special producer or what ??
Classic pimp mentality ...
Basically '' if all goes well '' and you '' behaved well with Daddy '' I pay you the fee and give you an extra gift, treats them as if they were escorts, not models who were sent for a professional shooting, neither more nor less. Obviously, then everything is part of the conditioning and brainwashing process. It starts already when you put your foot in his room for the first time.

Obviously her favorite prey are the new models ... he even complains if a professional model says: this is the price!
If you are under the value I pay you less ... what the fuck does that mean?
Maybe you tell that to your whores ...
Not to pull Siya Jey in the middle again ... but I remember her words "great producer" ... fuck.


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The question is very simple.
If these girls are beautiful, good personality etc. but don't they don't agree to get fucked by him do they get a work anyway?
The girls who have scenes on his site that have not previously agreed to be touched by him will be 1 or 2...

The agencies are unconscious and irresponsible to send girls who do not know how seriously this world works first there ...
they have to say yes and put a smile at everything he says and does otherwise he can say that she is not a good model and also threatens to ruin her career (it is full of bad words he said about girls on his forum as well as recommendations, if the girl proved to be quite condescending ... I repeat, pimp mentality)

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Who do he think he is? The owner of porn business? XD

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thank god the girls who know nothing and who are real newcomers are fewer and fewer and do not need to get fucked in the ass and remain exclusive to make a career. But talking badly about them and giving a bad image of them and threatening their career is never a good thing ... then he complains about the comments about the girls on the LP forum.

They should send them to professionals (instead they pretend to be blind)...coercion, say if you get fucked in the ass by me I offer you a job, give extra gifts in addition to the official prices, even pay less a professional model the agreed price ... is professional? More and more convinced that for his way of behaving (with a double face, the good grandfather if you behave well, I threaten you if you don't do as I wish) is dangerous for new young girls.

Just check his comments against a model like Katrin Tequila that doesn't even worked with him, they just coincided at Brillbabes office. Insulting to her by telling that she is "scort style, huge nose, snobbish attitude...” If I was the agency, I don't allow a client like this one put a foot in my office anymore. But as always they don’t care, the money and the shady deals with him are more important than the models
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby deviliscoming » Wed May 06, 2020 3:06 am

robin_reid wrote:
BlueShadow wrote:Image

We already knew that he doesn't play by the rules,but is he a special producer or what ??
Classic pimp mentality ...
Basically '' if all goes well '' and you '' behaved well with Daddy '' I pay you the fee and give you an extra gift, treats them as if they were escorts, not models who were sent for a professional shooting, neither more nor less. Obviously, then everything is part of the conditioning and brainwashing process. It starts already when you put your foot in his room for the first time.

Obviously her favorite prey are the new models ... he even complains if a professional model says: this is the price!
If you are under the value I pay you less ... what the fuck does that mean?
Maybe you tell that to your whores ...
Not to pull Siya Jey in the middle again ... but I remember her words "great producer" ... fuck.


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The question is very simple.
If these girls are beautiful, good personality etc. but don't they don't agree to get fucked by him do they get a work anyway?
The girls who have scenes on his site that have not previously agreed to be touched by him will be 1 or 2...

The agencies are unconscious and irresponsible to send girls who do not know how seriously this world works first there ...
they have to say yes and put a smile at everything he says and does otherwise he can say that she is not a good model and also threatens to ruin her career (it is full of bad words he said about girls on his forum as well as recommendations, if the girl proved to be quite condescending ... I repeat, pimp mentality)

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Who do he think he is? The owner of porn business? XD

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thank god the girls who know nothing and who are real newcomers are fewer and fewer and do not need to get fucked in the ass and remain exclusive to make a career. But talking badly about them and giving a bad image of them and threatening their career is never a good thing ... then he complains about the comments about the girls on the LP forum.

They should send them to professionals (instead they pretend to be blind)...coercion, say if you get fucked in the ass by me I offer you a job, give extra gifts in addition to the official prices, even pay less a professional model the agreed price ... is professional? More and more convinced that for his way of behaving (with a double face, the good grandfather if you behave well, I threaten you if you don't do as I wish) is dangerous for new young girls.

Just check his comments against a model like Katrin Tequila that doesn't even worked with him, they just coincided at Brillbabes office. Insulting to her by telling that she is "scort style, huge nose, snobbish attitude...” If I was the agency, I don't allow a client like this one put a foot in my office anymore. But as always they don’t care, the money and the shady deals with him are more important than the models


Lol he said Prague circus ! This guy is so salty and really hate legalporno ;)

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Wed May 06, 2020 3:20 am

I worked many times with Katrin and her attitude is always very nice. But this egomaniac can’t stand that not all models wanna play to his stupid game. It’s funny that he say about her that she is “scort style” when he always treats the models like whores by giving them gifts, inviting to dinners, private room parties, etc, etc...

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Wed May 06, 2020 5:38 am

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Wed May 06, 2020 5:42 am

Big nose XD And btw I have seen much worse looking girl on his site compared to Katrin Tequila, what this guy is talking about? LOL
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Wed May 06, 2020 6:33 am

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Following the Woodman’s advices it’s against any economical interest for the model


Of course. It's all about him, and his advantages.

Which one did more money with a single scene? Left or right?
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Yep, so nothing to talk about.

They believe that if they do one anal scene for Woodman and then holding back, the productions runs after and offer big money for one anal.
Holding back, waiting an year or more, do an anal scene an get big money... if in the meantime you would have done some anal scene it wasn't the same?Every time you give up an anal (worse knowing that you could do it) you give up extra money, regardless of your fee. It is simply less potential works. When you do 3-4 anal scenes over the course of a year, you gain even more than if you would have waited. It makes no sense economically. (Gabbie Carter in the US will probably earn more than a normal DP for her first DP but it's a real first on camera, but with Woodman what is the sense, why should they offer you more if you have already done an anal / DP for him? XD)

Why did Julsmodel forbid him to show anal scenes with some of her models? They already had an agreement with Blacked / Tushy. Do you think Blacked / Tushy would have paid the same amount knowing that there was already an anal around? Are European studios more stupid paying extra money knowing very well that that models already did first anal?
And complice agency not mention anal availability etc. great system XD


Then, build a career ... there are models who have never done anal and have had a great career, there are models who have always done anal and have had the same great career. There isn't a fixed rule, as he want to make believe to the new models. The only fixed rule is that he earns from it, and some agencies with which he makes agreements to block anal with others. Some fall for it, some are more smart. So he always try the same trick, nothing to lose (for him, not for the girls).
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby ayrtight » Wed May 06, 2020 4:20 pm

Cristina Miller is one of my fav girls since 2-3 years .

I really would have hoped that her career had got a better development . ...
Still happy that she has done Dp .

For the future , maybe someone can send the brainwashed newbies a comparative list of succesful models at LP ( and later on other sites ) and some stunners from the Woodman site whose career got nowhere .
[ One of the last examples : Neela Sweet :( ]

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Wed May 06, 2020 4:40 pm

ayrtight wrote:Cristina Miller is one of my fav girls since 2-3 years .

I really would have hoped that her career had got a better development . ...
Still happy that she has done Dp .

For the future , maybe someone can send the brainwashed newbies a comparative list of succesful models at LP ( and later on other sites ) and some stunners from the Woodman site whose career got nowhere .
[ One of the last examples : Neela Sweet :( ]

It is not a matter of shooting or not shooting for LP studios. Problem here is that some good models are holding back for all companies just because a psycopath with strong manipulation skills is telling them bullshits about not to shoot anal and dp and to hold as long as possible, except for him of course, just for take a commercial advantage in the market and also for his ego purposes. To hold for anal is outdated in 2020 and it’s against any economical and professional interest for the model, but to hold for anal when already did it for Woodman it is simply ridiculous.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby proxy001 » Thu May 07, 2020 6:08 pm

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This girl absolved the Woody's She really don't want get in trouble :D

I think this a good proof of how scared models are of him...
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Caristico » Thu May 07, 2020 6:38 pm

proxy001 wrote:I think this a good proof of how scared models are of him...


You mean managers...

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu May 07, 2020 7:08 pm

robin_reid wrote:
ayrtight wrote:Cristina Miller is one of my fav girls since 2-3 years .

I really would have hoped that her career had got a better development . ...
Still happy that she has done Dp .

For the future , maybe someone can send the brainwashed newbies a comparative list of succesful models at LP ( and later on other sites ) and some stunners from the Woodman site whose career got nowhere .
[ One of the last examples : Neela Sweet :( ]

It is not a matter of shooting or not shooting for LP studios. Problem here is that some good models are holding back for all companies just because a psycopath with strong manipulation skills is telling them bullshits about not to shoot anal and dp and to hold as long as possible, except for him of course, just for take a commercial advantage in the market and also for his ego purposes. To hold for anal is outdated in 2020 and it’s against any economical and professional interest for the model, but to hold for anal when already did it for Woodman it is simply ridiculous.

Exactly, is not a matter of LP or not LP. Even if among the various ''advices '' there is not to make a scene for LP, otherwise it is bad for the career ... XD
when then there are a lot of models showing the opposite, there is no fixed rule about this, just as there is no fixed rule that says that if you do anal first for PW you are sure to be successful, there are hundreds of girls who are unknown or / and have retired in a few months, just as there are girls who have had success, but PW or not PW, LP or not LP, holding on anal or not, has nothing to do with it. Obviously, if you book 100 girls first, there is a chance that 2-3 of them can become successful. LOL Nothing to boast about!

And I can't help thinking about how ridiculous it is that first he try all to convinces a newbie to do her first anal and / or DP in her first scene and then he recommends starting slowly and not doing other anal ... all for the good of the model! Sure sure ... XD
I wonder what the agents and agencies of these girls earn in allowing to block anal ...
I looked at the scene of Anastasia Brokelyn for herlimit and is all so absurd seeing a girl realy into it limiting herself in works that she can get. But already told this...
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu May 07, 2020 7:09 pm

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This girl absolved the Woody's She really don't want get in trouble :D

I think this a good proof of how scared models are of him...

Yep XD
But she don't even her. :D It's her agent.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby dap-addict » Thu May 07, 2020 7:14 pm

BlueShadow wrote:...holding on anal or not, has nothing to do with it.

Well, if a girl holds back on doing anal she is voluntarily depriving herself of a better income with porn.
But there is always the option to do anal only with the APE in exchange for really good $$$ with his private contacts in Paris and beyond. And thats the real problem for porn biz! :mad:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Pineapples Studio » Thu May 07, 2020 8:25 pm

There are still isolated instances in which waiting for anal can pay off. For big name mega-stars like Riley Reid, Maitland Ward, etc. who build strong social media followings and generate buzz outside of the porn industry, it can still be worth it to wait.

However, those instances are more rare today than they have ever been in the past. You really have to be a Top 10 performer to pull that off nowadays. Even for girls like Riley Steele, who waited over a decade to do anal, the returns from waiting are not what they used to be.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Thu May 07, 2020 9:26 pm

BlueShadow wrote:I wonder what the agents and agencies of these girls earn in allowing to block anal ...

Shady deals with him that make them more money than porn.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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BlueShadow wrote:
proxy001 wrote:
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This girl absolved the Woody's She really don't want get in trouble :D

I think this a good proof of how scared models are of him...

Yep XD
But she don't even her. :D It's her agent.

Ok, but he asked her first what to write there//// :D
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Postby proxy001 » Thu May 07, 2020 11:56 pm

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BlueShadow wrote:...holding on anal or not, has nothing to do with it.

Well, if a girl holds back on doing anal she is voluntarily depriving herself of a better income with porn.
But there is always the option to do anal only with the APE in exchange for really good $$$ with his private contacts in Paris and beyond. And thats the real problem for porn biz! :mad:

Well pointed///Btw he is the guy teach girls would be models better be escort for him and his clients....He is making the promotion on his website , and he has his clientele looking for girls are mostly exclusives they never fucked with Rocco, or black guys, etc., to let his small limp dick clients be happy. :cool:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Fri May 08, 2020 12:08 am

I hate the prostitution mixed in our biz. From years I’m booking models to an agency also involved in prostitution, I can confirm it because I saw messages from models receiving the escorting proposals. And I know from a 100% reliable source that at least 1 of the so called main agencies (that I also book since years ago) is also involved in prostitution. From the others so called main agencies I heard things but I can't confirm it by myself at 100%. What I can confirm and this everyone know it is that all them provide models to the so called “private videos or private producers”, they are guys that pretends do porn but they shoot just to fuck hot models for their own pleasure, and even if the model signed with the fake producer the paperwork and the std test are ok, the content is not going to be released, which means this is prostitution.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Fri May 08, 2020 12:15 am

evil-pineapples wrote:There are still isolated instances in which waiting for anal can pay off. For big name mega-stars like Riley Reid, Maitland Ward, etc. who build strong social media followings and generate buzz outside of the porn industry, it can still be worth it to wait.

However, those instances are more rare today than they have ever been in the past. You really have to be a Top 10 performer to pull that off nowadays. Even for girls like Riley Steele, who waited over a decade to do anal, the returns from waiting are not what they used to be.

YES. There are cases where waiting for anal can pay off and you can make good money after a successful career though ...
And there are cases where you have a successful career as well as doing anal regularly. I repeat, there is no precise rule for this, as ''he'' want make believe.
The only precise rule is that if the girls don't do other anal (often because they retire earlier, especially nowadays) he will earn more. Not the girls.

I mentioned this in a previous post on this thread, probably Gabbie Carter in the USA with her first DP will make good money.
But in the case of these girls who wait for the '' first '' anal to make good money is different.... the anal it's already done and it's online! (even if the agency, (Brillbabes!) not mention the anal availability!!) No much sense...


Now the cases of Anastasia Brokelyn for instance, maybe I'm wrong but let's say she stays in the business for 5 years. She will do his first anal (after PW's obviously, already online btw) we suppose only in the last 1-2 years of activity ... for an amount of X money.
Now, maybe I'm wrong, if instead of waiting 3 years without anal, would she do anal regularly, wouldn't she still earn more over these 5 years? And she would probably have even more fans.
Obviously this does not mean that every scene must be anal! There are different productions and different types of scenes that a model can do, if you are not available for anal, you simply cut yourself out of some works.Period.
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Postby BlueShadow » Fri May 08, 2020 12:21 am

robin_reid wrote:... the content is not going to be released, which means this is prostitution.

Oh well, there is a LOT of content ''filmed'' by PW (with girls getting money after, or kind gift, or promises of more work with regular scene of course...)but never released, and probably never will be... so, if there isn't a scene to see...isn't porn...I don't know what it is though, or how you can/want call it... :rolleyes:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Fri May 08, 2020 12:30 am

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This girl absolved the Woody's She really don't want get in trouble :D

I think this a good proof of how scared models are of him...

Months ago I asked info to her agency about rates and availability to bring her to Barcelona but not for LP, I mean for other productions I do, and the agent to make sure, specified me that she doesn't want to work for LP.

Brainwashed.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby meher.malekshahi » Fri May 08, 2020 12:05 pm

"... She will be asked to show her body in doggy style and missionary position on a sofa. Then Pierre convince her to have a 100% real sex with him,and he will make her an Anal demonstration of his secret technic.Pierre Woodman will make her cum like no others!... "

... secret technique ...

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robin_reid wrote:I hate the prostitution mixed in our biz. From years I’m booking models to an agency also involved in prostitution, I can confirm it because I saw messages from models receiving the escorting proposals. And I know from a 100% reliable source that at least 1 of the so called main agencies (that I also book since years ago) is also involved in prostitution. From the others so called main agencies I heard things but I can't confirm it by myself at 100%. What I can confirm and this everyone know it is that all them provide models to the so called “private videos or private producers”, they are guys that pretends do porn but they shoot just to fuck hot models for their own pleasure, and even if the model signed with the fake producer the paperwork and the std test are ok, the content is not going to be released, which means this is prostitution.

Let me fix couple of things, as you all know I am 1 of those agents which reputation was ruined with the help of the escort business to help the escort business....
We have to go back first 20 years when agents had to deal with an expanding porn business in paralel with the high class escort business recruiters(pims) were approaching agencies disguised as unknown( new starting photographers, producers, movie directors, etc. ) with the help of already known and reliable XBiz insiders.These producers as lets talk now only about our french count.
From 1997-1999 i was recruiting to him models from all kind of sources.Not only going out day and night on streets, hunting in night clubs,stop and invite beautiful girls for casting wherever could meet them, but I recruited also already working whores, strippers as well as the productions they needed out of new faces, also experienced sex workers, dancers as well, and many times as shooting location they were in need of strip clubs so they`ve got in contact with pimps and whores as well.
those times the ape he was same as today dealing behind the back of his agents, recruiters directly with the models, and send them to his clients, sometime just put them in touch with other high class escort running people from all around the world. He knew all big names in the escort business was in touch with them. When I started to have problems by losing models they went to other agencies were hand in hand with these high class escort agents, he just solved the problem by bringing a contact of his in Budapest, and organizing a big casting of almost 2 weeks to them. These 2 guys were coming from Abu Dzhabi, and they were the so called party organizers for Saudi princes, and many other clients, doing escort related events in Dubai, Abu Dzhabi, Cannes, Nice, yachts, and mansions.
Those times I was in position of nr 1 recruiter in Hungary for him as he had his assistant Leslie Small the bf of Gabriella Wolf being his exclusive model, and interpretor running his agency named Exotic Models located in Budapest center just one corner from the Hotel he used to rent rooms for his team and himself, and do the castings for his productions as director for Private. After started to work with me soon he had an amount of models he could`nt use all of them, but wanted keep them all exclusive. Even if he did every 2nd 3rd month a big production somewhere in tropic with a team of 15-25 models. Models wished to get busy with works,make money, he wished keep them sitting home waiting months for the next job with him, just inviting them for brainwash lunches, dinners, quick assfucks to keep them in shape every month once or 2 times one by one when come baqck in Budapest for casting and production. He allways caal models, promised them will work with them the next days, but could not afford to work with 80% of already worked models, as he was in need of new ones, and got new ones every time he come back...Models started to work on my back, and on his back off course, so he was in need to pay them without work, or pay them for doing sex with him, or just telling them to fuck with friend of him they come in Budapest with him, or just to meet him. he talked with my models on my back in room as he had Gabriella Wolf and she`s bf to take care of things be hidden from agents and recruiters. He just turned models against their recruiters, or agents all the time by paid them on their back, and convince them to work directly via Gaby Wolf`s agency providing them the well paying clients ( escort).Off course he had many problems cuz of this behaviour with agents, but he allways solved by paying them finally for their lost. He could, as he made zillions of dollars those times. When I started to find out I am more a pimp than an agent as I was supposed to be, because he deals with my models on my back, and just contact them with other escort related people, and find out gaby is calling my models for some casting in Kempinski Hotel Royal suite where they get fucked by some arab guys, and invited to sniff cocaine from table full of powder, I told him I stop and call my contacts from the police, as I don`t want to get in trouble...
He asked me to forgive, as he is preparing a big deal to solve this problem of my models not to go for other agencies, so he build his own escort agency with Gaby Wolf and he puts me be his model agent from now on giving me the keys of his agency studio of Budapest. He promised me, after this casting in Budapest for theese guys he will separate the escort from modelling and I`ll have nothing to do with, my models will have many model works for big brands, and other models will do the escort via his other agency will be runned by his ex assistant couple from now on. And yes, i`ve got the keys, and as I could control my models, I could send them do all kind of shootings, off course out of anal to remain exclusives for Woodman. I did it, but always happen some of them to do escort with his other agency, and always he explained was not his fault that the model decided to take this way...This is why after 1 year later when almost all Budapest was know about this well expanded escort business going in UAEmirates run by Woodmans ex assistant, under his control, and in his own favor, I decided to open my own agency not to be involved in this shit. I open the X-Clusive Models, and kept my contact with him by my rules, and prohibit the escort for models working with my agency.
All business wished to work with me, and my models and this went well for a decade even if the keep of control on models, and the separation of modelling from escort was more and more difficult as all agencies were dealing with escort, this become more and more common, and soon more classy, easy, and financially better work than shooting porn was.
As you mentioned before, yes there were those times when keeping the model not doing anal was made her be more wanted, and amazingly paid when doing it...I could manage model to get paid 5000USD for 1 anal scene in 2002, when normally 5-600USD was a cool fee for a starlet shooting an anal scene...
Those times models could have 15 shooting days monthly doing from nude photography, soft erotic, many lesbian only works, up till only vaginal scenes and being paid between 150USD-even up till 1000USD for a vaginal scene. So they could do easy 4-5000 USD/month without doing 1 anal scene....doing this for just 1-2 years was not that bad. Compare with what they have to do today to earn this amount of money ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
When I left the Ape ( I mean open my own agency), and become independent agent, he already lost his control on his own builded escort business, as Gabriella was taken in she`s own hands, betraying him and becoming the girlfriend of the arab prince she delivered the models before. They used to bring models from Budapest Airport with private jet, and models did`nt even need UAE visa to fly in Dubai....( visas were made in the private jet :eek: ).
So those times I had to go at the hungarian police and share all informations on about these contacts this is why I stop to work with any of the models were connected to these people brought here by the ape.
When I told him I got in touch with the police and they`re looking to find all people connected to this UAE escort models export related people, he just broke with these people, got in exchange couple of escort models to do anal with and for him exclusively, and let with big pain Gabriella run the business with all the other agencies were happy to make money this way. Mine not.
Soon started also the rest of the main agencies to take this way and to avoid working with escort girls and business was let`s say almost clean back in 2002-2005 when Hungary become EUcommunity country, internet grove up, business changed, and models could easy be traced, and hunted to apply for escort websites. A total lost of control, and mix of porn, modelling and escort was the next step, and the beginning of the era of sexual predators decided become porn producers for their own. POV was bring the new sexual predators to get connected with XBIZ, the shut down of big productions, and made our world to be as it is today....
The Ape was always one the Best Sexual Predators, Best Pimp, Best Impostor, and only a second line Director, Producer, Photographer whom was BUY his credits with money, or dealing with models he steal from agents, and sent them to his clients. Clients could be arab sheiks, princes, politicians, police ex colleagues, etc. related to his needing.
He got his wive Sophie who even did`nt wanted to meet him because she was already retired from porn and being a high class escort those times, but convinced first to do escort for him. Off course the dream of an escort ( gold digger) was to fuck less for more and more money, shopping, travelling , getting gifts,jewelry, for as much less in exchange. So he fall in love and took care of Sophie.... :) He did everything to clean she`s past, paid to make disappear all concerned to the shady past of her. Btw it`s normal he did this way. What is not normal, that he acts the way he acts, and he forgot he have to pay mooore much, for soooooooooo many other people whoose lives he made just be shit.
He will escape from these people only one way...when he dies. Once will happen for sure.
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proxy001 wrote:
robin_reid wrote:I hate the prostitution mixed in our biz. From years I’m booking models to an agency also involved in prostitution, I can confirm it because I saw messages from models receiving the escorting proposals. And I know from a 100% reliable source that at least 1 of the so called main agencies (that I also book since years ago) is also involved in prostitution. From the others so called main agencies I heard things but I can't confirm it by myself at 100%. What I can confirm and this everyone know it is that all them provide models to the so called “private videos or private producers”, they are guys that pretends do porn but they shoot just to fuck hot models for their own pleasure, and even if the model signed with the fake producer the paperwork and the std test are ok, the content is not going to be released, which means this is prostitution.

Let me fix couple of things, as you all know I am 1 of those agents which reputation was ruined with the help of the escort business to help the escort business....
We have to go back first 20 years when agents had to deal with an expanding porn business in paralel with the high class escort business recruiters(pims) were approaching agencies disguised as unknown( new starting photographers, producers, movie directors, etc. ) with the help of already known and reliable XBiz insiders.These producers as lets talk now only about our french count.
From 1997-1999 i was recruiting to him models from all kind of sources.Not only going out day and night on streets, hunting in night clubs,stop and invite beautiful girls for casting wherever could meet them, but I recruited also already working whores, strippers as well as the productions they needed out of new faces, also experienced sex workers, dancers as well, and many times as shooting location they were in need of strip clubs so they`ve got in contact with pimps and whores as well.
those times the ape he was same as today dealing behind the back of his agents, recruiters directly with the models, and send them to his clients, sometime just put them in touch with other high class escort running people from all around the world. He knew all big names in the escort business was in touch with them. When I started to have problems by losing models they went to other agencies were hand in hand with these high class escort agents, he just solved the problem by bringing a contact of his in Budapest, and organizing a big casting of almost 2 weeks to them. These 2 guys were coming from Abu Dzhabi, and they were the so called party organizers for Saudi princes, and many other clients, doing escort related events in Dubai, Abu Dzhabi, Cannes, Nice, yachts, and mansions.
Those times I was in position of nr 1 recruiter in Hungary for him as he had his assistant Leslie Small the bf of Gabriella Wolf being his exclusive model, and interpretor running his agency named Exotic Models located in Budapest center just one corner from the Hotel he used to rent rooms for his team and himself, and do the castings for his productions as director for Private. After started to work with me soon he had an amount of models he could`nt use all of them, but wanted keep them all exclusive. Even if he did every 2nd 3rd month a big production somewhere in tropic with a team of 15-25 models. Models wished to get busy with works,make money, he wished keep them sitting home waiting months for the next job with him, just inviting them for brainwash lunches, dinners, quick assfucks to keep them in shape every month once or 2 times one by one when come baqck in Budapest for casting and production. He allways caal models, promised them will work with them the next days, but could not afford to work with 80% of already worked models, as he was in need of new ones, and got new ones every time he come back...Models started to work on my back, and on his back off course, so he was in need to pay them without work, or pay them for doing sex with him, or just telling them to fuck with friend of him they come in Budapest with him, or just to meet him. he talked with my models on my back in room as he had Gabriella Wolf and she`s bf to take care of things be hidden from agents and recruiters. He just turned models against their recruiters, or agents all the time by paid them on their back, and convince them to work directly via Gaby Wolf`s agency providing them the well paying clients ( escort).Off course he had many problems cuz of this behaviour with agents, but he allways solved by paying them finally for their lost. He could, as he made zillions of dollars those times. When I started to find out I am more a pimp than an agent as I was supposed to be, because he deals with my models on my back, and just contact them with other escort related people, and find out gaby is calling my models for some casting in Kempinski Hotel Royal suite where they get fucked by some arab guys, and invited to sniff cocaine from table full of powder, I told him I stop and call my contacts from the police, as I don`t want to get in trouble...
He asked me to forgive, as he is preparing a big deal to solve this problem of my models not to go for other agencies, so he build his own escort agency with Gaby Wolf and he puts me be his model agent from now on giving me the keys of his agency studio of Budapest. He promised me, after this casting in Budapest for theese guys he will separate the escort from modelling and I`ll have nothing to do with, my models will have many model works for big brands, and other models will do the escort via his other agency will be runned by his ex assistant couple from now on. And yes, i`ve got the keys, and as I could control my models, I could send them do all kind of shootings, off course out of anal to remain exclusives for Woodman. I did it, but always happen some of them to do escort with his other agency, and always he explained was not his fault that the model decided to take this way...This is why after 1 year later when almost all Budapest was know about this well expanded escort business going in UAEmirates run by Woodmans ex assistant, under his control, and in his own favor, I decided to open my own agency not to be involved in this shit. I open the X-Clusive Models, and kept my contact with him by my rules, and prohibit the escort for models working with my agency.
All business wished to work with me, and my models and this went well for a decade even if the keep of control on models, and the separation of modelling from escort was more and more difficult as all agencies were dealing with escort, this become more and more common, and soon more classy, easy, and financially better work than shooting porn was.
As you mentioned before, yes there were those times when keeping the model not doing anal was made her be more wanted, and amazingly paid when doing it...I could manage model to get paid 5000USD for 1 anal scene in 2002, when normally 5-600USD was a cool fee for a starlet shooting an anal scene...
Those times models could have 15 shooting days monthly doing from nude photography, soft erotic, many lesbian only works, up till only vaginal scenes and being paid between 150USD-even up till 1000USD for a vaginal scene. So they could do easy 4-5000 USD/month without doing 1 anal scene....doing this for just 1-2 years was not that bad. Compare with what they have to do today to earn this amount of money ? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
When I left the Ape ( I mean open my own agency), and become independent agent, he already lost his control on his own builded escort business, as Gabriella was taken in she`s own hands, betraying him and becoming the girlfriend of the arab prince she delivered the models before. They used to bring models from Budapest Airport with private jet, and models did`nt even need UAE visa to fly in Dubai....( visas were made in the private jet :eek: ).
So those times I had to go at the hungarian police and share all informations on about these contacts this is why I stop to work with any of the models were connected to these people brought here by the ape.
When I told him I got in touch with the police and they`re looking to find all people connected to this UAE escort models export related people, he just broke with these people, got in exchange couple of escort models to do anal with and for him exclusively, and let with big pain Gabriella run the business with all the other agencies were happy to make money this way. Mine not.
Soon started also the rest of the main agencies to take this way and to avoid working with escort girls and business was let`s say almost clean back in 2002-2005 when Hungary become EUcommunity country, internet grove up, business changed, and models could easy be traced, and hunted to apply for escort websites. A total lost of control, and mix of porn, modelling and escort was the next step, and the beginning of the era of sexual predators decided become porn producers for their own. POV was bring the new sexual predators to get connected with XBIZ, the shut down of big productions, and made our world to be as it is today....

Does anyone know what Pierre's take on this is?
The Ape was always one the Best Sexual Predators, Best Pimp, Best Impostor, and only a second line Director, Producer, Photographer whom was BUY his credits with money, or dealing with models he steal from agents, and sent them to his clients. Clients could be arab sheiks, princes, politicians, police ex colleagues, etc. related to his needing.
He got his wive Sophie who even did`nt wanted to meet him because she was already retired from porn and being a high class escort those times, but convinced first to do escort for him. Off course the dream of an escort ( gold digger) was to fuck less for more and more money, shopping, travelling , getting gifts,jewelry, for as much less in exchange. So he fall in love and took care of Sophie.... :) He did everything to clean she`s past, paid to make disappear all concerned to the shady past of her. Btw it`s normal he did this way. What is not normal, that he acts the way he acts, and he forgot he have to pay mooore much, for soooooooooo many other people whoose lives he made just be shit.
He will escape from these people only one way...when he dies. Once will happen for sure.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby meher.malekshahi » Fri May 08, 2020 3:47 pm

Does anyone know Pierre's take on the above mentioned?

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Postby proxy001 » Fri May 08, 2020 4:07 pm

meher.malekshahi wrote:"... She will be asked to show her body in doggy style and missionary position on a sofa. Then Pierre convince her to have a 100% real sex with him,and he will make her an Anal demonstration of his secret technic.Pierre Woodman will make her cum like no others!... "

... secret technique ...

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fuck no secret at all, fuck no technique at all :D
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here is a photo without watermark on it...

the secret is revealed *
use a box of vaseline with mixed with cocaine makes the anus of the girl not feel the beginning of the anal insertion and fuck, but become high soon as from the cocaine, and without any explanation have a better feeling then without drugs...
Secret is he try make models be addicted of him, and his work....but have pain when work for others or in normal conditions without his "secret technique bullshit lie"
He learned it from his grandpa he said, who learned it in China :eek: why there ? there are men with small dick need this kinda techniques or why ?
Fucking bullshit way woodman :D
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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri May 08, 2020 4:10 pm

Yes, I've heard that from others too.

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Postby professeurphilo » Sat May 09, 2020 1:41 am

You're all fucking bastards , because of you I've been banned from the forum of Mr woodman , you're all big shit without faith or law without honor and above all you use the information of others to spy fuck the mess, shit, wherever you pass, dirty bastards shit! Thank you for putting me in trouble without any scruples or any consideration of the lives of others !

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Postby Pineapples Studio » Sat May 09, 2020 1:51 am

What are you talking about?

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Sat May 09, 2020 1:56 am

BlueShadow wrote:
robin_reid wrote:... the content is not going to be released, which means this is prostitution.

Oh well, there is a LOT of content ''filmed'' by PW (with girls getting money after, or kind gift, or promises of more work with regular scene of course...)but never released, and probably never will be... so, if there isn't a scene to see...isn't porn...I don't know what it is though, or how you can/want call it... :rolleyes:

If the scene is not going to be released, that has a name...

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Postby proxy001 » Sat May 09, 2020 2:52 am

professeurphilo wrote:You're all fucking bastards , because of you I've been banned from the forum of Mr woodman , you're all big shit without faith or law without honor and above all you use the information of others to spy fuck the mess, shit, wherever you pass, dirty bastards shit! Thank you for putting me in trouble without any scruples or any consideration of the lives of others !

Oh nooooo :mad: what wrong you did ?
Btw what are you missing from there ?
If you wanna say nice things about him , name him master, be his puddle you can do it here. Be sure he is watching this forum more than his own as this one is more busy, and he doesn`t have to talk to himself. Ok i understand it`s painful to read all the truth about him he would hide from people, but he has couple of puppies there to take care of his ego no need for you there.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Sat May 09, 2020 5:27 am

robin_reid wrote:
BlueShadow wrote:
robin_reid wrote:... the content is not going to be released, which means this is prostitution.

Oh well, there is a LOT of content ''filmed'' by PW (with girls getting money after, or kind gift, or promises of more work with regular scene of course...)but never released, and probably never will be... so, if there isn't a scene to see...isn't porn...I don't know what it is though, or how you can/want call it... :rolleyes:

If the scene is not going to be released, that has a name...

Better let’s say if the “content or video” is not going to be released... because if not released, it’s not a scene. Probably not even he pressed the rec button or he planted in the tripod a camera with no battery, no card/minidv... and did not recorded anything...

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Postby Iddaoeeok » Sat May 09, 2020 2:07 pm

professeurphilo wrote:You're all fucking bastards , because of you I've been banned from the forum of Mr woodman , you're all big shit without faith or law without honor and above all you use the information of others to spy fuck the mess, shit, wherever you pass, dirty bastards shit! Thank you for putting me in trouble without any scruples or any consideration of the lives of others !


Who are you in trouble with? The Woodman Police? And how does getting banned from the Woodman forum adversely affect your life? LOL. Fool.

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Postby BlueShadow » Sat May 09, 2020 2:59 pm

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What? Is the patient spider losing patience?

BTW I speak for myself. I have always talked about his work and about the way of working as a producer who is certainly ''particular'' as regards extra payments to models (himself said it) , relationships with agents and agencies, blocking anal, talking badly about a girl if she does not follow his ''tips'' etc.
These are my own opinions. And that's that.
But I never said that you raped, I never said that you use drugs, I never talked about your family, on the contrary, I even defended it!
Here the proof:
BlueShadow wrote:I understood that you mentioned his daughter because she is the only girl you mentioned besides Cayenne. Was sarcasm, but for me to put family members in between is always wrong.

BlueShadow wrote:OK, her daughter is a yoga teachear. And? Who care?
This has nothing to do with his works.


You can't catch me in the web. I know where the limit are. I'm honest.
So better read everything before naming and accusing. Thanks.


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And it's shadow with one D, not 2. I'm offended. :D
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Postby Iddaoeeok » Sat May 09, 2020 3:37 pm

Talk about the boy who cried wolf, how often has he threatened to sue and prosecute people telling 'lies' about him? Dozens of times. And how often has he actually sued and prosecuted people telling lies about him? Never.

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Postby robin_reid » Sat May 09, 2020 4:24 pm

Why so concerned about if someone here said that he use viagra?? He put that on that list of “crims we accuse him”.

Well he also said in his forum that I’m another “inyected dick” which is not true and he has not absolutely any proof of it, and other lies he said about me long before I even worked here.

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Postby proxy001 » Sat May 09, 2020 4:49 pm

Full moon, lockdown, no new pussies since long time, and who know what more ?
The guy who made all his life videos of young girls doesn`t wanna get fucked in the ass finally accept to be. Sometime the team had to act like rape the girls, sometime he acted same way, but in true he just made tender love with girls.
Underage girls in casting ? Aaaah he talks about regularly use of underage girls on his website, not about convincing underage girls to do porn for him, and recording them with hidden camera when underage, and use the records later...so those girls before the opening of his website doesn`t count :rolleyes:
The wive being recorded in Dubai with many other half naked girls were known as escorts together with arab guys were known as running escort business together with other models connected to him who were already long time ago investigated for organizing hundreds of East European girl as escorts in Dubai, Cannes,Marbella,Seychelles, Maroc, etc. All on the same brunch , but the wive (gf) was only there as a turist......or as a fashion advertising model showing her boobs on Dubai beaches :rolleyes:
Most important is to prove in front of a Court that he does`nt ever used Viagra.....I guess how he would do this ?
I mean if judges would be some women, as usually happen when dealing with kinda guys like him.
He has 100.000 Euro to spend for this ? Didn`t count the more he would need to spend...
Why just not offering this money to Blueshadow to quite talking about him ? Or why he just not offer this money to a women rights foundation...
So he is angry, but me I don`t have to be. I had to change my family name because of him, move to another country, but he still makes public lies regarding my person on his forum.
i asked since years to erase everything concerned to my person, but he still find the way to download photos of mine from my social media accounts and publish on his website connected to insults regarding my person.
OMG how many skeletons would fall out from the closet :D
Mr. gerbier, better think to use those money much more smart way to escape from your shady past actions you`ve done for so many people love you :rolleyes: Think twice....
Btw you could just reopen a door for me to become famous and make some money :D
Just to get some media attention as would get for sure a trial kinda you would spend your time with.
A new Weinstein trial.... :)
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby proxy001 » Sat May 09, 2020 5:21 pm

robin_reid wrote:Why so concerned about if someone here said that he use viagra?? He put that on that list of “crims we accuse him”.

Well he also said in his forum that I’m another “inyected dick” which is not true and he has not absolutely any proof of it, and other lies he said about me long before I even worked here.

For God sake, are really taking this guy seriously ?
Just imagine him in front of a Court attacking people for the reasons he listed...
His family members could eventually do something.....
Btw in which country he has to sue ??? Would be a big game with looooooots of money invested by him to eventually succeed in some way.
He say of you accusing him for incestuous relation, just because she`s daughter`s photo was next to a photo of him fucking a girl could look like :)
Who you think would take him serious ?
The guy who speaks the way he speak of dozens of others on a forum with no free speech, edited, and censored the way he does creating fake images of people he doesn`t like for any reason :rolleyes:
it is just a forum should be shut down by law ordinance.
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Postby robin_reid » Sat May 09, 2020 5:30 pm

proxy001 wrote:He say of you accusing him for incestuous relation, just because she`s daughter`s photo was next to a photo of him fucking a girl could look like :)
Who you think would take him serious ?

I have never accused him of an incestuous relation. When I saw those photos, I just asked, and you confirmed me that they were not same girl.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby proxy001 » Sat May 09, 2020 5:39 pm

he has the first subscriber for the 100k Euro raffle :D :D :D
a 15 years old forum user :) a subscriber for several years :eek:

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i hope judges will check at first his forum, and watch couple of his tender loving scenes... :D

Btw this guy created a monster sexual predator image of himself and now he turns against himself...

Could this be the first sign of his recovery ? :D
the guy who understands women knows wood welding

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