do you think russia would dare using nuclear weapons?

[doraemon_washington]

do you think they would dare?

they are the country with the most nukes in the world

a lot of people in the west say russia wont dare to use them

[doraemon_washington]

aaaaaa

[jackthetreacleeater]

They won't because: a) Putin is a pussy and all talk and no trousers, and b) the ex-Soviet nuclear arsenal is probably so decrepid as to be of no use whatsoever. Like estimates on Russian convential capability (which the Ukraine war has proved to be grossly over-estimated) likewise modern Russian nuclear capability is probably grossly over-estimated by the west too. All their nuclear submarines are rotting in the Arctic and even nuclear weapons have a limited life cycle.

[doraemon_washington]

They won't because: a) Putin is a pussy and all talk and no trousers, and b) the ex-Soviet nuclear arsenal is probably so decrepid as to be of no use whatsoever. Like estimates on Russian convential capability (which the Ukraine war has proved to be grossly over-estimated) likewise modern Russian nuclear capability is probably grossly over-estimated by the west too. All their nuclear submarines are rotting in the Arctic and even nuclear weapons have a limited life cycle.

russia expends a massive amount of money in nuclear weapons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

their nuclear weapons are very powerfull

2
is not only putin who rules

you must live in santa claus-land, u think only putin has make this war? there must be a elite group of people that rules with putin, u so naive

also calling him a pussy is childish

if u force russia to lose & also lose crimea too, this war can be extremely dangerous, they wont accept a extreme defeat & a extreme humiliation

do not underestimate human stupidity, ww3 can be real

[doraemon_washington]

b) the ex-Soviet nuclear arsenal is probably so decrepid as to be of no use whatsoever.

All their nuclear submarines are rotting in the Arctic and even nuclear weapons have a limited life cycle.

so u say ww3 is not possible because they couldnt use their nuclear weapons even if they tried?

ugh whatever

a lot of their arsenal is new and very powerfull, i dont know what the fuck ur talking about

[doraemon_washington]

All their nuclear submarines are rotting in the Arctic and even nuclear weapons have a limited life cycle.

is the poseidon 'rotting' in the artic too?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System

[pastaga]

Russia never shown a real picture of Poseidon.
Also we've seen how unstoppable Kinzhal missile are.
But we have seen Russia's one and only plane carrier : https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comme ... he_sealed/

Funcctionnal nukes or not, Russia will not use them unless they don't care about being fully destroyed by the west.

[doraemon_washington]

apart from the poseidon and the nuclear tsunamis

they say the sarmat is very powerfull too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat

[pastaga]

They say.
They say a lot of things...

[doraemon_washington]

russia can launch ww3 and trigger a nuclear apocalypse if they want

they have tons of new & overpowered nuclear weapons

[pastaga]

russia can launch ww3 and trigger a nuclear apocalypse if they want

they have tons of new & overpowered nuclear weapons

And considering the quality of Russian weapons that apocalypse may even start on their own territory...

[doraemon_washington]

are u trying to talk to me?

[doraemon_washington]

lets look at the number of nuclear weapons countries have

usa has 5,244
deployed 1,670

russia has 5,889
deployed 1,674

uk has 225
deployed 120

france has 290
deployed 280

usa & uk & france are part of nato
so nato has 5759 nuclear weapons & 2070 deployed

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

even if russia has more nuclear weapons i think nato have superior weapons to launch the nukes?
i dont know
although those new poseidon & sarmat seems very powerfull

i personally think nato would win over russia in a nuclear apocalypse
although i dont think u can win a nuclear war

the weapons are there, & are easy to launch in a nuclear war

do not underestimate human stupidity, world war 3 can happen

[doraemon_washington]

zelensky wants:

1 defeat russia and make them lose the war (maybe that wont trigger ww3)
2 not only win the war, but regaining crimea (extreme HUMILIATION towards russia, i dont think you can humiliate russia just like that, extremely dangerous)
3 after winning the war and regaining crimea, join nato

i dont know, this situation is very dangerous, extremely humiliate russia like that is very dangerous

[Alexander-Alexander]

I think they dare not to use it. Ukraine is very close to Russia, for it's very dangerous for Russia too if it's used. The reason behind war is not only to show who is the winner but is to gain more benefits.

[doraemon_washington]

I think they dare not to use it. Ukraine is very close to Russia, for it's very dangerous for Russia too if it's used. The reason behind war is not only to show who is the winner but is to gain more benefits.

but if they are forced to lose & be extremely humiliated & lose crimea they may use them

i dont see russia accepting losing the war + losing crimea + ukraine also being shielded by being a nato member

'they wont dare to destroy the world'

mmmmmmm do not understimate human stupidity

they builded them & expended that extreme amount of money into building those extremely expensive nuclear weapons, in case they need to use them

people that believe world war 3 cant happen are people that are naive and understimate human stupidity

[doraemon_washington]

sorry for being annoying

but i think if zelensky manages to recover crimea, russians will use small nukes

if the russians cant recover crimea with normal weapons, i think they will use small tactical nukes, then everyone will freak out, and the war can extremely escalate into a nuclear apocalypse

if zelensky manages to recover crimea thats gonna be extremely dangerous

[AcanthaceaeNo1451]

I do not think that because it would give the US justification to invade.

[doraemon_washington]

I do not think that because it would give the US justification to invade.

yea but u know the magnitude of conquering crimea????

crimea is part of russia, thats just a fact, they conquered crimea, crimea is goberned by russia
crimea is russian

Russia's nuclear doctrine allows for a nuclear strike after "aggression against the Russian Federation with conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is threatened".

you think russia is gonna lose the war, lose part of russia, also crimea joining nato afterwards
and thats gonna work???

ha, i dont see that
if russia lose the war & also part of its territory (crimea) they may use tactical small nuclear weapons

[doraemon_washington]

in russian tv they talk about world war 3 so oftenly

https://www.youtube.com/@russianmediamonitor

[doraemon_washington]

the ukraine counteroffensive i think is a failure

i dont think ukraine will be able to regain crimea

i think russia wouldnt dare to attack nato or launch ww3, but i think they would dare to use small nuclear weapons in ukraine if they lose crimea, if the only way they can avoid defeat and win is by using small nuclear weapons, i think they would use them
i think if they would lose crimea they would use small nuclear weapons against ukraine

they wouldnt dare attack nato directly or launch ww3 but i think they would dare to use small nukes in ukraine in desperation to avoid defeat

but it doesnt seems ukraine can conquer crimea either
zelensky is always talking about conquering crimea

[bubbasaurs]

The US is going to die in 2025 as the biggest civil war in human history will ravage the whole country. 200 million Americans will die and the US will disappear forever from human history.
Then the world will finally be free, all wars are going to end, hate will disappear, medicine will become cheap, and medicine that are forbidden by American Vampire Industrial Complexes like pharma and military will finally be released (like that one just created in Cuba that is able to redirect the body immune system to kill cancer cells only, and Americans are fighting by adding the Cuban universities and labs to their "criminal terrorist sanction lists" over OFAC).
The US killed directly more than 100 million people in the world since the end of WWII. The US never invented anything that was good and useful to humankind. The US is the country were mass pedophilia and homosexuality were invented (AIDS became an epidemy because American faggots went to Africa to have anal sex with monkeys). The US invented a satanic perversion of the Christian religion, the Neopentecostal Evangelical movement in the 1960s with Billy Graham that does not follow the bible and only preaches "American" ideals so the US can keep raping and exploring the world.
I am white American, born and raised, and I know those things to be true. The US is the cancer of humankind and a body can only survive if the cancer is fully removed.

[pastaga]

Russia will not use nukes, or Russia is done. Not even China would support them anymore, only little fat Kim.

Military weapons and equipment has been proved being bad quality, so it's probably the same for their nukes. Imagine a failed launch exploding in Russia... They don't want it.

The only think Russia can do is sending meat to the grinder hoping for them to lose men as well. But at the moment the front won't move much. More airplanes and long range weapons may help Ukraine ro get Crimea back.

[doraemon_washington]

Military weapons and equipment has been proved being bad quality, so it's probably the same for their nukes. Imagine a failed launch exploding in Russia... They don't want it.

they invest a fortune in their nuclear weapons, and they keep adding new weapons like the sarmat and the poseidon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_ ... ose_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat

bad quality??? saying cringe fake stuff
trying to degrade things you dont like by saying fake stuff is weak

you wanna degrade russia thought saying fake stuff???

'they cant fire small tactical nukes because their nuclear weapons are bad quality and some will fall on their own territory' -pastaga
so cringe seriously
i dont know why i even read this fake messages stuff

More airplanes and long range weapons may help Ukraine ro get Crimea back.

another person who thinks you can recover crimea, extremely defeat and humiliate russia, and russia wont do nothing

you people live in narnia

[pastaga]

Military weapons and equipment has been proved being bad quality, so it's probably the same for their nukes. Imagine a failed launch exploding in Russia... They don't want it.

they invest a fortune in their nuclear weapons, and they keep adding new weapons like the sarmat and the poseidon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_ ... ose_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-28_Sarmat

bad quality??? saying cringe fake stuff
trying to degrade things you dont like by saying fake stuff is weak

you wanna degrade russia thought saying fake stuff???

'they cant fire small tactical nukes because their nuclear weapons are bad quality and some will fall on their own territory' -pastaga
so cringe seriously
i dont know why i even read this fake messages stuff

More airplanes and long range weapons may help Ukraine ro get Crimea back.

another person who thinks you can recover crimea, extremely defeat and humiliate russia, and russia wont do nothing

you people live in narnia

Yeah sure Russian military equipment is the best.
That's why they send prisoners to front with just shovels.
That's why Ukraine/Russia tanks loss ratio is somewhat 1/10.
That's why their kinzhal missiles are shot down by patriots.
That's why they can't manage to protect warships in black sea.
That's why the drones they shoot down always manage to damage their target anyway...

[pastaga]

Also, Poseidon (if that thing is more than a drawing) is the most stupid and useless weapon Russia would have built ever.
Use it in black sea ? Yeah sure Sotchi and Crimea would enjoy.
Use it against NATO ? Moscow would be done in 48 hours (unlike Kyiv).

[Pineapples Studio]

The US is going to die in 2025 as the biggest civil war in human history will ravage the whole country. 200 million Americans will die and the US will disappear forever from human history.
Then the world will finally be free, all wars are going to end, hate will disappear, medicine will become cheap, and medicine that are forbidden by American Vampire Industrial Complexes like pharma and military will finally be released (like that one just created in Cuba that is able to redirect the body immune system to kill cancer cells only, and Americans are fighting by adding the Cuban universities and labs to their "criminal terrorist sanction lists" over OFAC).
The US killed directly more than 100 million people in the world since the end of WWII. The US never invented anything that was good and useful to humankind. The US is the country were mass pedophilia and homosexuality were invented (AIDS became an epidemy because American faggots went to Africa to have anal sex with monkeys). The US invented a satanic perversion of the Christian religion, the Neopentecostal Evangelical movement in the 1960s with Billy Graham that does not follow the bible and only preaches "American" ideals so the US can keep raping and exploring the world.
I am white American, born and raised, and I know those things to be true. The US is the cancer of humankind and a body can only survive if the cancer is fully removed.

I won’t even address most of this except to say that you’re phenomenally stupid if you believe that the collapse of one country would actually bring about world peace.

The U.S. has a lot of dirty laundry. We’ve dicked around with just about everybody in the years since WW2. I’m not offering any excuses for that. But it’s certainly not the one and only force holding back world peace. Conflict and war are a part of human nature, bro.

[Vancouver]

The US is going to die in 2025 as the biggest civil war in human history will ravage the whole country. 200 million Americans will die and the US will disappear forever from human history.
Then the world will finally be free, all wars are going to end, hate will disappear, medicine will become cheap, and medicine that are forbidden by American Vampire Industrial Complexes like pharma and military will finally be released (like that one just created in Cuba that is able to redirect the body immune system to kill cancer cells only, and Americans are fighting by adding the Cuban universities and labs to their "criminal terrorist sanction lists" over OFAC).
The US killed directly more than 100 million people in the world since the end of WWII. The US never invented anything that was good and useful to humankind. The US is the country were mass pedophilia and homosexuality were invented (AIDS became an epidemy because American faggots went to Africa to have anal sex with monkeys). The US invented a satanic perversion of the Christian religion, the Neopentecostal Evangelical movement in the 1960s with Billy Graham that does not follow the bible and only preaches "American" ideals so the US can keep raping and exploring the world.
I am white American, born and raised, and I know those things to be true. The US is the cancer of humankind and a body can only survive if the cancer is fully removed.

The US is not going to have a civil war. There is no military force that could rise up to challenge the US military in order to make this civil war happen. The states have control over state national guards. None of those are going to go to war with the US miliary. FFS, get a grip.

[drevokocur66]

For the most part, Russian tech is not only 30+ years behind western tech, but is also corruption weakened junk. Putin loves himself too much to use them, assuming they are operational. Russia has some jaw dropping weapons in CGI mode, but in reality, it's more like bird droppings.

[doraemon_washington]

i made this thread cuz i thought those nato overpowered weapons were so overpowered they were going to extremely defeat russia and recover crimea

but the ukraine counteroffenssive has been a failure, so nevermind

if ukraine dont conquer crimea, i dont think russia would use small nukes

i think they would only use small nukes if ukraine would regain crimea using nato's weapons

[pastaga]

i made this thread cuz i thought those nato overpowered weapons were so overpowered they were going to extremely defeat russia and recover crimea

but the ukraine counteroffenssive has been a failure, so nevermind

if ukraine dont conquer crimea, i dont think russia would use small nukes

i think they would only use small nukes if ukraine would regain crimea using nato's weapons

Russia didn't use nukes but used some forbidden weapons already like toxic gases.
But I think Putin is afraid to use small nukes for some reasons :
- disapproval of big brother China
- risk of failure
- NATO answer.

Plus it wouldn't be a very efficient weapon except to mass kill civilians and create a no-go zone.

[doraemon_washington]

i think ukraine is gonna lose

after the big failure of the ukraine counteroffenssive i think theres no way ukraine is gonna win

i think if russia can conquer the entire ukraine, they will, also they will probably go after transnistria afterwards, and after that they will go to other ex-soviet countries

i think russia would never dare attack nato though, that would be suicidal, russia only fucks with smaller countries

[dangerousFart]

i think ukraine is gonna lose

Highly unlikely. Remember, the war enters its third year and those Soviet retards haven't even managed to capture LDNR completely (which was their minimum plan in February 2022). The "poseidon" wunderwaffe and other cartoon weapons are just laughable, that rusty junk never works in real life and is used solely for propaganda purposes. Putin's shitty empire is gonna suck cock the same way young Russian beauties suck cock at LP studios Слава Україні !

[doraemon_washington]

i think ukraine is gonna lose

Highly unlikely. Remember, the war enters its third year and those Soviet retards haven't even managed to capture LDNR completely (which was their minimum plan in February 2022). The "poseidon" wunderwaffe and other cartoon weapons are just laughable, that rusty junk never works in real life and is used solely for propaganda purposes. Putin's shitty empire is gonna suck cock the same way young Russian beauties suck cock at LP studios Слава Україні !

hahah

ukraine needs successfull counteroffenssives to win you know

and last year the counteroffenssive was a brutal failure

they havent managed to capture LDNR because nato is fighting indirectly & pumping ukraine with tons of weapons

the poiseidon and all that stuff i only used that as an example for the people that say russians have low quality nuclear weapons that wont work or something like that

however i dont think they would actually dare to use big nuclear weapons like the poseidon, only small nukes
this thread real question is if they would dare to use SMALL nuclear weapons

i dont think they would dare to use the big nuclear weapons XD

in russian television they talk about using big nuclear weapons
https://www.youtube.com/@russianmediamonitor

bs XD

the only way i think they would use big nuclear weapons is if they lose crimea & in desperation they use small nukes to win the war
then everyone would freak out and try to stop russia and that could dumbingly escalate into ww3

[doraemon_washington]

this is what elon musk says

'theres no way in hell that putin is gonna lose'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3a1HympZh8

[dangerousFart]

Elon is, obviously, a very smart guy. But he says a lot of stupid nonsense. His Space-X being a huge success doesn't mean that he's correct 100% of the time, especially when it comes to politics and history.

i dont think they would dare to use the big nuclear weapons XD

Putin and his loyal old retards won't ever dare to use any nuclear weapons. All Russia's top dogs are tightly bound to the West. Their children live in developed Western countries, they own elite real estate and yachts in Western countries. Even Russian propagandists have dual citizenship (Soloviev, Sergey Brilev, Pyotr Tolstoy). Heck, one of Putin's daughters, I believe, still lives in the Netherlands (I hope we'll see her at Gonzo soon in a piss-drinking DAP scene). They're turning regular, perfectly normal Russian people against the West but don't mind living in our countries themselves, hypocritical pieces of shit!