Do you really have to remove the old DDF/Pornworld site?

[ddf676]

Sorry, but I f'in hate Pornbox.

The UI is garbage. The search function is dire. Search for a performer in 'Library' and get 'No Scenes Found'.

If you click on a performer's name on a scene and get 'No Scenes Found'. If you search for her in the 'Store' (which I don't f'in want) and oh hey, there's the scenes I paid for along with a whole heap of scenes you want to try and sell me.

Oh, but that's okay because I can click owned to filter out all the extra PPV stuff, because everyone knows clicking extra buttons to do simple things is clearly the pinnacle of exceptional user experiences, right?

You removed all the old classic cover art as well, which yeah, I get, I'm probably one of the few that has an issue with this but it's still bloody annoying.

This site is like something from the early-2000s. It wouldn't surprise me if you designed it in Frontpage.

[Pineapples Studio]

And your forum actually has an issue with the correct spelling of the words sirch, fowned and cliq, so I have to type this post like an illiterate numbskull, which is just the icing on the cake, really...

What?

[ddf676]

And your forum actually has an issue with the correct spelling of the words sirch, fowned and cliq, so I have to type this post like an illiterate numbskull, which is just the icing on the cake, really...

What?

Every time I spelt those words correctly, my post was rejected because they were banned apparently.

[Pineapples Studio]

From a cursory glance at your post, I see the words “search” and “owned” both included in their correct spelling in several places.

Maybe it’s only if the words are capitalized? Let’s see.

Search

Owned

Click

Of course, maybe it’s only for OPs. I don’t know… That’s pretty bizarre.

[ddf676]

From a cursory glance at your post, I see the words “search” and “owned” both included in their correct spelling in several places.

Maybe it’s only if the words are capitalized? Let’s see.

Search

Owned

Click

Of course, maybe it’s only for OPs. I don’t know… That’s pretty bizarre.

Who knows? Maybe it was a particular order of the words that triggered it? It wasn't owned, though. It was 'found'. Let's see if it works, this time...

[ddf676]

Ah, cracked it.

You can't use search and click after the word found.

Totally normal restriction...

[Angel Eyes]

This site is like something from the early-2000s. It wouldn't surprise me if you designed it in Frontpage.

Frontpage... Now that's funny.

[ddf676]

Now that's funny.

I was gonna say Frontpage Express, but I thought that might be a bit rude.

[xxx]

Sorry, but I f'in hate Pornbox.

The UI is garbage. The search function is dire. Search for a performer in 'Library' and get 'No Scenes Found'.

If you click on a performer's name on a scene and get 'No Scenes Found'. If you search for her in the 'Store' (which I don't f'in want) and oh hey, there's the scenes I paid for along with a whole heap of scenes you want to try and sell me.

Oh, but that's okay because I can click owned to filter out all the extra PPV stuff, because everyone knows clicking extra buttons to do simple things is clearly the pinnacle of exceptional user experiences, right?

You removed all the old classic cover art as well, which yeah, I get, I'm probably one of the few that has an issue with this but it's still bloody annoying.

This site is like something from the early-2000s. It wouldn't surprise me if you designed it in Frontpage.

I see the problem. We'll adjust the search.

[zhguihi]

Hi guys,

We are working on improving the UX of the site. What we do is not always immediatly visible, but we are on it, focusing on the content is our primary commitment, but we are on it, hope you will get used to a different navigation though.

[ddf676]

Hi guys,

We are working on improving the UX of the site. What we do is not always immediately visible, but we are on it, focusing on the content is our primary commitment, but we are on it, hope you will get used to a different navigation though.

Eh, IMO the content has gone way downhill over the past year or two. While I'm willing to chalk some of that up to the pandemic the fact is Hot Legs and Feet - gone. Euro Teen Erotica - gone. 1ByDay - gone. Euro Girls on Girls - gone.

Everything unique and interesting about DDF has gone. No more solo scenes. On the rare occasion you have a lesbian scene, it's just a part one to a follow-up MMF threesome.

There is nothing that distinguishes DDF/Pornworld from pretty any much any other standard Euro hardcore site, and I didn't join for a standard Euro hardcore site. There's plenty of them already.

Sure, it's probably still great for some users, and fair play. Different strokes and all that. But for me, the value of a sub is in the archives. The new stuff is largely cookie-cutter and dull, so making that a pest to navigate and removing some of the old features isn't a great move and just devalues the sub further.

Am willing to stick around for a month or two and see if things improve on the navigation and search front, but if they don't, then it'll probably be time to move on.

[Studios Liaison]

Hi,

We had indeed to stop regular updates of Leg Fetish niche, the users were not there anymore, I am sorry about that, but this is the reality.

For the other niches all is covered in Pornworld studio, it is not as visibly as in independent websites of the past, but all is here: Busty, BDSM, GG scenes are not as frequent as before, but we have more and more GGB scenes with decent GG parts in it.

Also we have diversified the mix of style, with regular Russian, Spanish, and American actors.

We here understand your concern, what I am trying to say is that you probably lost in some aspects, but on other aspects we gibe you something that you did mot have before...

[ddf676]

Hi,

We had indeed to stop regular updates of Leg Fetish niche, the users were not there anymore, I am sorry about that, but this is the reality.

For the other niches all is covered in Pornworld studio, it is not as visibly as in independent websites of the past, but all is here: Busty, BDSM, GG scenes are not as frequent as before, but we have more and more GGB scenes with decent GG parts in it.

Also we have diversified the mix of style, with regular Russian, Spanish, and American actors.

We here understand your concern, what I am trying to say is that you probably lost in some aspects, but on other aspects we gibe you something that you did mot have before...

GGB scenes aren't really what I'm interested in, and definitely not what I originally subscribed to DDF for. If there's a bloke in a GG scene, it's not a GG scene. And it's not like I'm not already spoilt for choice if GGB is what I want to see. There's several hundred websites that do that already.

I get you probably think you're somehow giving me more, but I've seen your output for the last year. Boring seen-it-before hardcore over and over again. I could subscribe to Private, or Adult Time, or Mile High, or Digital Playground (if they hadn't just wiped a quarter of their library), or Brazzers, or any other number of other websites to see that. Stacy Cruz banging some ugly ass bloke isn't going to do it for me, I'm afraid. She's hot, he's not.

Like I say, the value is in your archive when the site had variety, and offered different things to suit different audiences. I know some people like this type of hardcore, but you're not doing anything for people who don't, are you?

Variety is the spice of life, and you haven't got variety. No solo scenes anymore - oh except for a couple of hour-long compilations you put up for some random reason. Why did you lump them all together? What's the point of that? Do you think I'm going to sit here and fast forward to the girl I want to see?

No real GG that isn't just a prelude to a hardcore scene.

The only reason I'm still around is because of that archive, and you've just made it a massive pain to navigate.

[ddf676]

Bit bored this morning waiting for an email, so I did a quick test of your 'every niche is still here' claim.

Let's look at the current page one on Pornbox. First we need to ignore all the videos from 2006 that are randomly displayed among the Most Recent videos, because of course, Pornbox's navigation is as nonsensically terrible as ever.

That leaves us with 16 scenes. Let's take a look at the variety on offer, and how you're giving me something I didn't have before.

1) Interracial DP
2) Hardcore
3) Orgy DP
4) BDSM DP
5) Interracial DP
6) Orgy DP
7) GGB
8) DP
9) Interracial DP
10) GGB
11) BDSM DP
12) Milf Hardcore
13) Interracial Hardcore
14) Anal Hardcore
15) Interracial DP
16) BDSM DP

So that's ten DP scenes. The next highest category is interracial with five, four of which are DP's.

Maybe you should have called the site DP Land instead?

No solos. No lesbian videos. Nothing that would fall into Euro Teen Erotica. You can't even do a BDSM video that isn't a DP by the looks of it.

What do you think you're giving me that I didn't have before, other than more dicks in every scene?

[xxx]

Bit bored this morning waiting for an email, so I did a quick test of your 'every niche is still here' claim.

Let's look at the current page one on Pornbox. First we need to ignore all the videos from 2006 that are randomly displayed among the Most Recent videos, because of course, Pornbox's navigation is as nonsensically terrible as ever.

That leaves us with 16 scenes.

We checked your account. The old scenes you are talking about are due to an old logic for "hard porn world". They are in no way taking an update spot from recent scenes. It's just that the HPW "studio" was included in your membership but we'll remove it because it's clearly confusing.

Again, you are getting a new PW scene every day.

[xxx]

Bit bored this morning waiting for an email, so I did a quick test of your 'every niche is still here' claim.
Maybe you should have called the site DP Land instead?

No solos. No lesbian videos. Nothing that would fall into Euro Teen Erotica. You can't even do a BDSM video that isn't a DP by the looks of it.

What do you think you're giving me that I didn't have before, other than more dicks in every scene?

Solo and lesbo releases always get way less views than the harder content. Same for that outdated dark dungeon style.

We are here to give our members more of what they watch. It's unfortunate if you like unpopular content though.

[ddf676]

Bit bored this morning waiting for an email, so I did a quick test of your 'every niche is still here' claim.
Maybe you should have called the site DP Land instead?

No solos. No lesbian videos. Nothing that would fall into Euro Teen Erotica. You can't even do a BDSM video that isn't a DP by the looks of it.

What do you think you're giving me that I didn't have before, other than more dicks in every scene?

Solo and lesbo releases always get way less views than the harder content. Same for that outdated dark dungeon style.

We are here to give our members more of what they watch. It's unfortunate if you like unpopular content though.

Fair do's. Just cancelled the subscription. Saves arguing about it.

[awblaw]

Tragic loss of DDF - I am so so disappointed with this garbage site. Where have all those lovely DDF sets gone? Utter crap!!

[ddf676]

Tragic loss of DDF - I am so so disappointed with this garbage site. Where have all those lovely DDF sets gone? Utter crap!!

Ah, yes. Seems they've removed the photo galleries as well and replaced with zips of poor quality screenshots.

That seems like extra effort to make things worse.

[Studios Liaison]

Hi guys,

We are listening to you, and we have already provided improvements, and I working on some more. For example the favorites of old Ddf accounts have been imported.

Regarding the pictures sets, you always had, and still have them. You have to click on Gallery, and you have all the pictures, as before.

Working on further improvements of course.


Thank you for all the good remarks.

[chessh]

Sites like 1byday, sandysfantasies redirect to pornworld, if you removed this content from pornworld you must shutdown those sites, or remove redirection, otherwise you are scamming people

[ddf676]

Hi guys,

We are listening to you, and we have already provided improvements, and I working on some more. For example the favorites of old Ddf accounts have been imported.

Regarding the pictures sets, you always had, and still have them. You have to click on Gallery, and you have all the pictures, as before.

Working on further improvements of course.


Thank you for all the good remarks.

Regarding picture sets - that doesn't always seem to be the case.

Take Chloe Toy - A Toy For All Occasions. There is a photoset that accompanies the video. I know because I have previously downloaded it.

But if you find the video in Library search there is no link to a gallery or an option to download one.

Use the Store search and go directly to the scene, and there are screenshots which you can download or view in gallery, but the original photoset is not there.

The same applies to a number of Melena Maria's photosets such as Seeking Your Goo, We Do the Worship, and The Queen of our Cocks.

Some of her photosets are there, but others are missing.

I don't have the time to go through every model to figure out what's here and what isn't, but there are definitely photosets missing.

Every video/photoset that had a cover is also missing that cover as well. I'm sure that's not a big deal for you as you stopped producing them once you took over, but some people like to organise things and those covers helped.

[Studios Liaison]

Hi,

Regarding the cover boxes, we stopped making them. a very little amount of our visitors were using that, not even clicking on it. This stopped around 6 month ago.

Regarding the photo galleries, all the galleries are supposed to be in Pornworld, but I checked and I found two scenes with full galleries missing, so we will investigate that asap.

Thank you for these remarks, will be on it.

[ddf676]

Hi,

Regarding the cover boxes, we stopped making them. a very little amount of our visitors were using that, not even clicking on it. This stopped around 6 month ago.

Regarding the photo galleries, all the galleries are supposed to be in Pornworld, but I checked and I found two scenes with full galleries missing, so we will investigate that asap.

Thank you for these remarks, will be on it.

Yes, I do get spending ten minutes making them wasn't worth the effort for the majority of users. What I mean is I don't understand why the 10 years' worth of ones that exist never got transferred to Pornbox? It's not like it'd be taking up huge amounts of storage space and since they already exist, what's the harm?

Truth be told, I get it doesn't really matter. I've already cancelled my sub and it ends tomorrow, but even though the answer to why all the new content is just endless DP after DP was "sucks to be you", I might have still stuck around for that archive content that I really like had you not set about making everything about DDF such a pest by forcing users to use Pornbox which is demonstrably not fit for purpose: from the poor search, to the lack of DDF sites listed under studio (no 1ByDay, Hot Legs and Feet, Euro Girls on Girls - and yes, I get you don't make those scenes anymore, but you didn't even add the studios to help anyone find them), not importing the covers, evidently forgetting to import some of the photosets, model names linking to nothing, videos tagged "lesbian" when they're BBG Threesomes, and so on.

Never mind, though. All things have to end, as they say.

[zhguihi]

Hi,

I am sorry that you took this decision.If you have been a fan of the content since years, Pornbox Network is just an opportunity for you to subscribe to other studios, not an obligation.

We have been improving the search and add a lot of new tags to search with.

I may take a bit of time to implement some of the features that you enjoyed, but we are ont it. At the same time we have been decreasing the price from 44 to 25 usd per month.

Alltogether these improvements and events have occured in just 2 months, not ages, so please stay with us, enjoy the scenes, and do not stop writing us, we cannot always please all of you, we do our best, and also we have to keep in front the needs of the majority.

Stay tuned:)

[Studios Liaison]

We are sorry to see that you took the decision to leave us. Within the last two month w have improved the UX of studios as much as we could, and still working on that.

We are also now giving th Pornworld membership at a discount price of 24,99 after many years @44, so try us again in a while, and let's hope you will be satisfied by the progressive's by then.

[ddf676]

We are sorry to see that you took the decision to leave us. Within the last two month w have improved the UX of studios as much as we could, and still working on that.

We are also now giving th Pornworld membership at a discount price of 24,99 after many years @44, so try us again in a while, and let's hope you will be satisfied by the progressive's by then.

Hello. Apologies for the late response, but I didn't see it and actually only did because I hit the wrong thing in my browser history!

I don't expect to ever subscribe again, I'm afraid. I've found alternatives since leaving.

Also, I hear you have download limits now which is just a hard no.

[Studios Liaison]

Hi,

We understand, and hope you will come again in the future. With our present set-up you can download a LOT with one membership within a period of time, and can stream with no limitation, just to let you know...

[xxx]

We are sorry to see that you took the decision to leave us. Within the last two month w have improved the UX of studios as much as we could, and still working on that.

We are also now giving th Pornworld membership at a discount price of 24,99 after many years @44, so try us again in a while, and let's hope you will be satisfied by the progressive's by then.

Hello. Apologies for the late response, but I didn't see it and actually only did because I hit the wrong thing in my browser history!

I don't expect to ever subscribe again, I'm afraid. I've found alternatives since leaving.

Also, I hear you have download limits now which is just a hard no.

Every major site has download limits. Some don't even allow downloads at all. I'd be curious to know if you can find one big paysite without.

[ddf676]

We are sorry to see that you took the decision to leave us. Within the last two month w have improved the UX of studios as much as we could, and still working on that.

We are also now giving th Pornworld membership at a discount price of 24,99 after many years @44, so try us again in a while, and let's hope you will be satisfied by the progressive's by then.

Hello. Apologies for the late response, but I didn't see it and actually only did because I hit the wrong thing in my browser history!

I don't expect to ever subscribe again, I'm afraid. I've found alternatives since leaving.

Also, I hear you have download limits now which is just a hard no.

Every major site has download limits. Some don't even allow downloads at all. I'd be curious to know if you can find one big paysite without.

Depends how you're defining 'big'?

Off the top of my head, Nubiles (and the other NF Media sites), New Sensations, Adult Prime (the Club Sweethearts megasite), Metart Network, Kink, Private, Teen Mega World, and Scoreland don't have download limits. Scoreland used to have some silly arse thing where you could only download videos that had been released in the past few weeks, but they ditched that a while back. And they finally caught up to the present day and released 1080p and 4k versions too. Better late than never, eh? Kink has finally got around to 1080p as well. I guess the millions they made from selling the Armory paid off.

I'd consider all of them 'big' sites, either in terms of frequency of updates, or size of their archives (although not necessarily sites I'm that interested in). No download limits on Bang either, although the vast majority of their content is third-party DVD releases. Bang's original content is growing... though most of it isn't my kinda thing. There is Porn Pros sites too, but they do have an odd thing with their "network" upgrade that seems to include different sites depending which site you get the upgrade from which is some overcomplicated nonsense.

I know the Mindgeek and Gamma sites (New Sensations currently excluded) do tend to have DL limits, or that download tax crap, but Mindgeek went and deleted large amounts of their archives for some weird reason, so who cares about them anymore?

[Studios Liaison]

Hi,

I understand your point, but can you tell me how many videos you can DL within one month membership? A lot more than what you can view..... and same for stream capacity. The DL Limits are not here to limit the regular porn lovers, but those who would DL 200 videos per day and cancel after 3 days.... this is also important to guarantee the community a decent speed also. All sites have limits, we know that, this should not be any issue for 99% of our users. And please don't forget we are proposing now Pornworld for 24,99 VS 44 previously...

[ddf676]

Hi,

I understand your point, but can you tell me how many videos you can DL within one month membership? A lot more than what you can view..... and same for stream capacity. The DL Limits are not here to limit the regular porn lovers, but those who would DL 200 videos per day and cancel after 3 days.... this is also important to guarantee the community a decent speed also. All sites have limits, we know that, this should not be any issue for 99% of our users. And please don't forget we are proposing now Pornworld for 24,99 VS 44 previously...

But not all sites have limits. I gave you a non-exhaustive list of ones that don't.

How many videos I can download is by the by. I download because I've got a 65" TV to watch them on in comfort, rather than sitting at my PC which is less so. So they get downloaded while I'm working and I'll figure out later what's worth keeping and what isn't. You're right, it's more than I can view, but it doesn't mean that I'll view everything I download to completion. I might only view a few minutes or something to see if it was what I hoped it'd be.

Do you want to know why I refuse to sign up to sites with download limits, though? Because eventually, the line gets moved and the limit decreases. Eventually you get to the situation at places like Vixen where it's 25 a week (the KM sites I hear is 15), or the ridiculous situation I encountered at one site with both a download tax and a download limit, and photoset ZIPs counting towards that limit. I gave up on all sites that do this stuff now because I'm fed up of being bitten.

But look, it doesn't matter. Like I said months back, you've changed the site to something I find a chore to use. You've stopped producing any of the content I originally signed up for to become DP World. The download limit is a hard no, and tbh, I was never paying anywhere near €44 a month anyway. I've found alternatives that are cheaper, are continuing to produce content I like, and don't have download limits, so I've moved on, and I'm only popping back to this board because you keep replying to me. The only thing of value you have to me is the archive from when DDF produced stuff I liked, but with the old site terminated, I'll settle for something else, somewhere else.

[Studios Liaison]

Hi,

Thank you for all the details. regarding the DL limits we don't see any concrete issue that you have experienced that you could share with us? You can DL a TON of videos with your membership, I have been going through the tickets at our support, and we do not receive claims about that.

Regarding the product, the whole scenes have parts that display less hardcore, and the end of the scenes are often a strong part indeed, but as the whole video is nearly twice longer as it was before we hope than the solo, GG, BG parts that you find in the scenes please those who are not into very strong sex.

Nevertheless we understand fully your point and hope to find you back.

[ddf676]

Hi,

Thank you for all the details. regarding the DL limits we don't see any concrete issue that you have experienced that you could share with us? You can DL a TON of videos with your membership, I have been going through the tickets at our support, and we do not receive claims about that.

Regarding the product, the whole scenes have parts that display less hardcore, and the end of the scenes are often a strong part indeed, but as the whole video is nearly twice longer as it was before we hope than the solo, GG, BG parts that you find in the scenes please those who are not into very strong sex.

Nevertheless we understand fully your point and hope to find you back.

Well, no. I haven't experienced issues with your DL limits because you didn't have any on the old site so I never ran into one. Whether I would now is kinda moot because like I say, any form of DL limit makes me look elsewhere.

Regarding your point about the content itself, I'm afraid I'm unconvinced of the benefit to your methodology.

Either you're suggesting that I should be okay with downloading a 10GB+ video, of which about 1-2GB is of any interest to me, or I should take the 10GB+ video, import it into Premiere Pro, manually cut the stuff I'm not interested in, maybe add a dissolve effect and sound fade transition at the end to eliminate the abrupt hard cut, and then export it to a new file. The former seems a rather wasteful use of finite storage, and the latter just seems like a chore.

[Studios Liaison]

Thank you for your feedback, and sorry to see you leaving. We cannot satisfy all our various customers, but will be please to see you back hopefully.

[MS100]

Bit bored this morning waiting for an email, so I did a quick test of your 'every niche is still here' claim.
Maybe you should have called the site DP Land instead?

No solos. No lesbian videos. Nothing that would fall into Euro Teen Erotica. You can't even do a BDSM video that isn't a DP by the looks of it.

What do you think you're giving me that I didn't have before, other than more dicks in every scene?

Solo and lesbo releases always get way less views than the harder content. Same for that outdated dark dungeon style.

We are here to give our members more of what they watch. It's unfortunate if you like unpopular content though.

Right! Please keep up bringing more hard content...just watched the amazing Zlata Shine...woow...gooood...delivering massive loads of this type of content
would be fantastic...

[Studios Liaison]

hi,

We just shot 3 more scenes with Zlata... Stay connected...

[MS100]

hi,

We just shot 3 more scenes with Zlata... Stay connected...

Thanks very much! Those scenes are always an instabuy: hard and fast rough fucking...She is good at it!
Please find more girls like that! instabuy guaranteed!

[Studios Liaison]

Next scene with Zlata is in two days... Zlata, Chloe together, NOV 10....

[MS100]

Next scene with Zlata is in two days... Zlata, Chloe together, NOV 10....

Thanks, good one! Hopefully next scenes are rough gangbang or 1:1...Zlata, shoot as man scenes as you can..al instabuy!