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Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:15 am
by dap-addict
Just realized in sz2899 that they needed 2h to get from first DAP insertion to final cumshots. This would translate to about 4h shooting time - except foto shots. Its similar in other gonzo scenes also, ie. its not due to girls eventual performance problems.

Such long shooting time means they loose possibility to get 2-3 scenes into the box by shooting days. :confused:
Most girls will work longer for their gonzo fee, nopro here, but if they dont have many studio rooms they loose production capacity and money for camera, cutters etc.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:17 am
by dap-addict
This scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/223028
But as said other gonzo releases recently are the same very often.

Output is about 15 scenes per month recently. It can be shot in 5 days or 15 studio crew working days. Its studios choice ofc, but why lower studio capacity if it could be up to almost 100 scenes per month? :confused:

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:02 pm
by YumYum74
Because Omar isn’t a full time Gonzo director. He does tons of other stuff for BangBros, Lady Dee etc.
Plus you have the male talents branching out with Luca in Italy for his own production, Yannick suddenly turning up in Yummy scenes etc etc

Add to that the fact there are barely any regular girls left (Kristy, and maybe Baby Kxtten and/or NiciXDream, that’s it), and my impression is that Gonzo is in a death spiral.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:20 pm
by xxx
We actually decreased our prices at Gonzo when we adjusted the TKT conversion and it was disastrous. We just can't turn a profit with lower prices which means Omar is demotivated (he gets a cut of the profits) and we aren't shooting anything.

Add to that : porn models nowadays are completely insane and ask for ridiculous prices even though it's extremely beneficial for them to appear in paysites even if they worked for free.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:34 pm
by magizi87
XXX

in regards to Gonzo,

are you gonna wait and see, to see how it further develops?

or maybe planning some changes for the near future?

You know, last time I heard you talk about Gonzo,
was back in the locked topic about the backlash to price increases
and you said something like "Gonzo is always on top", and now a few months later, it's a "disaster".

Also, were you joking about the suggestions models could work for free? lol
can you imagine, coming back home, from work, having your ass fucked by several guys, DAP style no less,
and come empty handed.

how would that be like :eek:

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:58 pm
by xxx
Gonzo is far ahead of every other studio in the personal user ratings.

Studio is not dead but needs fresh blood and adjustments.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:06 am
by dap-addict
xxx wrote:We actually decreased our prices at Gonzo when we adjusted the TKT conversion and it was disastrous.

:( :(
But thanks for trying! :)
I supported gonzo for those nice prices and bought more than before TKT devaluation.
Conclusion is than that users accepted higher prices and just spend more $$$ on pornbox? :confused:

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:40 pm
by dap-addict
This xxx post actually made me now buy all 6-6,9tkt DAPs @ gonzo!

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:27 pm
by Naaru
xxx wrote:Gonzo is far ahead of every other studio in the personal user ratings.

Studio is not dead but needs fresh blood and adjustments.


Its good to hear anything, I think just some regular communication here on the forum just helps establish a line of trust with active users.
I am sure some people just check which scenes and nothing else, but I would hazard a guess that ppl who bother to take the effort of regularly engaging here are pretty loyal customers.

I think as Ive noted before. Ive been buying Sineplex since before this site existed. So yeah.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:47 am
by dap-addict
Naaru wrote:I would hazard a guess that ppl who bother to take the effort of regularly engaging here are pretty loyal customers.

Sure! But counted in numbers there are probably small. Counted in scenes bought and money actually spent they might be bigger, though. ;)
Still for a longer time already I see no customer loyalty care, which really surprises me. :( :confused:

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:13 am
by Paizal
Naaru wrote:
Its good to hear anything (...)



It's one thing to hear something and another to hear the same thing for over a year. It has been obvious for years that GONZO is struggling. That someone does something against it is in no way obvious.

At the end of the day, the people responsible for this platform are business people. As long as they continue to be successful by offering cheaply produced crap porn on this site, no one will continue to care about GONZO.........except to say "GONZO is not dead, we care" every 6 months to reassure the stupid customer.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:06 am
by Ultra-Gape
xxx wrote:Gonzo is far ahead of every other studio in the personal user ratings.


I'm intrigued what 'the personal user ratings' may be?

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:22 am
by cumdump
xxx wrote:We actually decreased our prices at Gonzo when we adjusted the TKT conversion and it was disastrous. We just can't turn a profit with lower prices which means Omar is demotivated (he gets a cut of the profits) and we aren't shooting anything.

Add to that : porn models nowadays are completely insane and ask for ridiculous prices even though it's extremely beneficial for them to appear in paysites even if they worked for free.

I also noticed the lack of scenes, outside of decreasing prices, why else is the Studio not doing well or why not just go back to the original formula that was working?

And if not that, why not just charge fair market pricing and get the ball rolling again, if the model talent is up there and the production and camera work and creativity meets the demand, seems like it should do well if you say the Studio is as great as it is.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:47 pm
by RedBaron
xxx wrote:Gonzo is far ahead of every other studio in the personal user ratings.

Studio is not dead but needs fresh blood and adjustments.

As some others wrote. Go back to where you were beginning:
- best looking girls of all studios like Linda Sweet, Timea Bella, Amirah Adara, Rebecca Volpetti (just to mention some)
- best stories like "no holes barred", "1, 2, 3, 4 guys and then gangbanged by all 10", "Gonzo monster cock team" e.g.
- bring the best girls regular
- cosplay like Amira Adara (https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/30364), Silvia Dellai (https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/33769) e.g.

But most important is the quality of the girls like Veronica Leal, NiciXDream, Mina, Eveline Dellai e.g.

Therefore I can't understand, that the following girls have never or very rare performed at Gonzo: Emily Pink, Silvia Soprano, Lina Arian, Lia Ponce, Natasha Rios, Larissa Leite, May Akemi e.g.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:54 pm
by DPraved
Ultra-Gape wrote:
xxx wrote:Gonzo is far ahead of every other studio in the personal user ratings.


I'm intrigued what 'the personal user ratings' may be?

I would guess he's referring to the studio ranking that determine what we see on the store page.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:08 pm
by Ultra-Gape
DPraved wrote:
Ultra-Gape wrote:
xxx wrote:Gonzo is far ahead of every other studio in the personal user ratings.


I'm intrigued what 'the personal user ratings' may be?

I would guess he's referring to the studio ranking that determine what we see on the store page.


Ah yes, you could be right there :). Thanks.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:42 am
by xxxVIPERxxx
One would have to surmise that (rightly so), Gonzo is the most liked/followed studio of all the studios on LPAV?

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 12:33 am
by magizi87
I wanted to bump this thread, to see if XXX has something additional to say about Gonzo.

Meanwhile, here are some random thoughts.

I don't know if this makes sense, but, Latin Teen Productions, feels more Gonzo, than Gonzo scenes do.
I'm talking about the people, in the front of the camera, the actors and actresses.

For me to buy Latin Teen Productions tho, they have to overcome one MAJOR hurdle,
I think their camera work is abysmal... so if they improve that, I'm set. lol

Also, Natasha Teen Productions, seems heavily inspired by how Gonzo movies, used to be, (A LOOOONG ASS TIME AGO)
but their camera work is also terrible.

I'm at a point where, if it doesn't look good, I don't care.
I think it's pretty sad when most studios, in the pornbox, have super dreadful camera work.

How do you shoot porn, and not care how things look.
What is the point of scouting for the most beautiful girls you can,
when you cant fucking frame the girl into the video, in a way she looks hot.

Can XXX intervene and bring an expert, somebody that knows his shit about photography,
preferably someone outside the porn industry, someone who actually knows the theory and has experience,
to train the crew from the main studios.

That would be money well spent IMO.

People like buying stuff, that looks good. I'm wtih the people on this one.

*/rant off

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2022 12:18 am
by Datnigga777
Pretty much they went from the best to boring every scene is the same outfits off heels off just another generic scene with different girl alot of the this site has lost the idea what sex appeal is all it takes go insta to see what is in regular girls dressing like pornstars of early 2000s meanwhile here bor and generic

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:21 pm
by MackZatis
dap-addict wrote:Conclusion is than that users accepted higher prices and just spend more $$$ on pornbox? :confused:


The conclusion I come to is that people are FED UP with BULLSHIT all the time..... And that's why sales are so far decreased, even at lower prices as XXX says.... 98% of people on the web for porn are not picky at all, they'll just go somewhere else when it's too much confusion, hassle, a pain to navigate the UI or toxic envrioment. Which this place has all the above in spades....

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:38 pm
by powerful76
to be honest, after theend of the monster cock team ( chris diamond and charlie mac) , gonzo was never the same...

2018/2019 scenes from gonzo was the best scenes porn scenes of all time for me...

incredible girls just being stretched by the girth cocks in amazing positions and camera work!!

theres just many legendary scenes in that time...

gonzo needs to find new impressive models;
womens and specially male performers with massive girth cocks.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:24 pm
by simone.urbinati
Hi BOSS, no news about re-start og Gonzo studio?
thank you and kisses

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:14 am
by beklof
powerful76 wrote:to be honest, after theend of the monster cock team ( chris diamond and charlie mac) , gonzo was never the same...

2018/2019 scenes from gonzo was the best scenes porn scenes of all time for me...

incredible girls just being stretched by the girth cocks in amazing positions and camera work!!

theres just many legendary scenes in that time...

gonzo needs to find new impressive models;
womens and specially male performers with massive girth cocks.


I largely agree with this criticism. I wonder about two things in particular. The current poor level of male actors (meaning practically all studios) and infuriatingly poor camera work (meaning almost all studios).

As for the male actors, the level is terrible just in terms of appearance. Top to bottom tattooed Christmas trees, ridiculous looking hanging and swinging balls, ugly or small dicks and men who seem like bored robots. And it's almost any studio, I get the same male actors whose faces and boring mannerisms I'm completely tired of. We should find new and fresh and also good-looking guys with really big cocks for this industry!

And then this bad camera work! It's so annoying when there's a super sexy and hot girl and then she's completely wasted when the camera work is completely lousy. However, I know that people have different opinions about what should be the right camera angles and distances, etc. so these are just my subjective views and someone else will surely see things completely opposite.

I personally want to see a lot of close up filming in porn. For my taste, directors these days shoot too much of the general view. For me, the girl's face and expressions are not that important, but I want to see the act itself as close as possible. I don't want to be in the position of an observer, but "participate" in the action itself. I want to see the vagina and asshole close up and not meters away! I want to see a close up when a big cock penetrates a girl's tight asshole and not meters away as a general view.

Another problem is camera angles. I see way too much shooting from the side! I will never understand this decision of the directors. When the picture comes from the side, you practically can't see anything! What's the point of shooting anal sex as a side profile!? No sense, is my answer! But still you see this all the time. I just don't understand! Or, of course, there is the possibility that either the directors don't care or are stupid or completely unprofessional.

I keep seeing porn videos that are so bad that the question is why were they made and who were they made for? I stick to the argument I have made here before. In other words, in Sineplex's videos, for example, the level of camera work was clearly better than in general today. More close-ups and much more correct camera angles! When you watch them, you don't have to constantly get annoyed and shout to move that fucking camera closer or change that fucking camera angle so I can see something!

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:21 am
by Ultra-Gape
beklof wrote:I personally want to see a lot of close up filming in porn. For my taste, directors these days shoot too much of the general view. For me, the girl's face and expressions are not that important, but I want to see the act itself as close as possible. I don't want to be in the position of an observer, but "participate" in the action itself. I want to see the vagina and asshole close up and not meters away! I want to see a close up when a big cock penetrates a girl's tight asshole and not meters away as a general view.


I do like to see close-ups* but I'll just say that for me this very much includes close-ups of the woman's face. Seeing the woman's expressions/reactions is also very important to me.

*especially of moments where a cock is removed to show a gaping anus/pussy or both.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:17 am
by YuriyProneBone
xxx wrote:We adjusted the TKT conversion.


Yeah, that was the worst idea ever in the history of the site, even more than changing the name from LegalPorno to AnalVids or PissVids.

However addicts will be addicts and I believe the site will be fine. I'm pretty sure Gonzo will find a way to get hot girls.

If Angelo can do it, Gonzo can do it too.

To be fair the ideal price is still 4.5 tickets, which equals 5 bucks. That's what people think is acceptable.

However many studios prefer charging more and selling smaller amounts of copies because charging 4.5 tks doesn't guarantee the video will sell, the video still has to be good too, and that's not always possible.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:42 pm
by thesoundizer
FORGET ABOUT SUGGESTIONS AS PORNBOX IS BROKEN SINCE 29TH DECEMBER AND SUPPORT DOES NOT RESPOND TO ANYONE.

CANNOT STREAM PURCHASED 4K CONTENT OR DOWNLOAD.

Re: Gonzo output and studio capacity

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:37 am
by xxxVIPERxxx
I am sure they are just taking a well deserved break, the support services shall surely return in due course...