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Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:24 pm
by Zeok
In the last two years some very interesting medium natural tits and big natural tits girls have appeared on Gonzo. Among the ones I liked the most are Ambra Dulce, Tina Fire, Lady Lyne, Sandra Sweet, Alisa Horakova or Laura Boomlock. First of all, thank very much to Omar for bringing girls with a more varied body type.

However, the moments when these girls did dp/dap in cowgirl position could have been better.

I think that the moments with dp/dap in cowgirl position of the double penetration scenes and the like are the most important. And the reason for that is because they are visually very spectacular, especially when the women go into ecstasy and fuck wildly.

Then, I will break down a number of options for improvement.


Posture of the girls' bodies.
The next position is essential for recording dp/dap in cowgirl position.
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As can be seen, the woman's back should mostly arches upwards. Occasionally the man underneath could pull the woman's body closer to him. But the arched body should be the norm. I mention this because there are scenes such as sz2911, starring Ambra Dolce, where the girl has her body too long time glued to the man underneath.

Woman´s naked torso during the dps/daps in cowgirl position.

In my opinion, this is quite an important point to take into account. Especially with curvy girls like Manea Valentina, Ambra Dulce or Laura Boomlock.

Forthemore, is the option chosen by more than 65% of the users in my last poll.

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Stop spraying the woman's ass with oil during penetrations.

Lately the use of oil has become widespread in Gonzo. Its use is too unsightly and forced. In oil it should be applied only to the penises of men and off camera.

Better to replace the oil for saliva. And off camera that the actors oil their cocks.

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Some different camera angles in dp/dap in cowgirl position.
May be the most important point of improvement is the angles, or perspectives, used by the camera.

The perspectives used at Gonzo Studio for dp/dap in cowgirl position have always been somewhat monotonous. Although in the past there was more variety.

To improve this point, I will first start from a standard position, which will be the most common, like the one in the image.
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From this position, different camera angles should be added throughout the action. Then, after several seconds in this alternative angle, or image zoom, it returns to the standard position.

Something like a pendulum movement. But a long swing, not a short swing. For example. Suppose Omar decides to focus on the face of the woman, who at that moment is in ecstasy. Well; that change must have a duration of several seconds and not just a few seconds. The reason for this is because the viewer needs time to grasp what is happening and to enjoy the moment.

Frontal or semi-frontal perspective.
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This perspective is highly recommended for girls with big tits and saggy tits. Especially if the camara shoot at the moment when the tits are bouncing a lot.

It is important to hold the camera for 10 to 20 seconds. It would even be advisable to change the tilt and focus of the camera, so that the tits can be seen from higher, lower or closer.

Top and front perspective.
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It works especially well with girls with a nice ass, as it allows us to see how wide their hips are.

Simulate see what one of the men sees during the dp/dap.

This consists of leaving the camera for a moment in the hands of one of the men who is not penetrating the woman. Like the guy to which the girl suck his cock.

As soon as the woman looks at the camera, a moment occurs that I find very exciting. I don't think I've ever seen this in Gonzo. And it surprises me for the worse, because it's very gonzo´s style-like.

Duration and number of dps/daps in cowgirl position.

Duration.
I think the ideal duration should be around 5 to 6 minutes, twice as long as at present.

Number.
Sometimes two dp/dap in cowgirl position could be filmed per scene, each of 3 minutes.


High Intensity penetrations in every dp/dap in cowgirl position.
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Recently the intensity has improved. But I add the above gif as a reminder.

Some interesting interactions that can be added to a dp/dap in cowgirl position

Interaction with women's hair.
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Rimming for longer.
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Other inteactions.
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Re: Suggestion: better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2022 9:31 am
by Zeok
In the last scene I bought from Gonzo it looks like some things I asked for have been applied. However, I get the feeling that in the last scenes the duration of the dp/dap in cowgirl position is very short. 2 and 3 minutes is nothing. It is better that the minimum is 5 or 6 minutes, and recommended 8 to 10 minutes in that position.

Re: Suggestion: better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:16 am
by xxxVIPERxxx
I love seeing hot girls rim guys assholes!

Re: Suggestion: better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 2:11 pm
by Zeok
Zeok wrote:In the last scene I bought from Gonzo it looks like some things I asked for have been applied. However, I get the feeling that in the last scenes the duration of the dp/dap in cowgirl position is very short. 2 and 3 minutes is nothing. It is better that the minimum is 5 or 6 minutes, and recommended 8 to 10 minutes in that position.


I still think that in Gonzo Studio the dp/dap in the cowgirl position lasts a very short time. More time please: 5 minutes minimum. Furthermore, sales can improve investing more time in shoot this dp/dap position.

Re: Suggestion: better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:27 am
by Zeok
Those allergic to the woman's body are in luck. Gonzo is already a studio specialized in covering, or censoring, depending on how you look at it, a woman's torso. It seems that the new director has not found out what sells and not in Gonzo. Here is an image of the do's and don'ts in this studio.
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Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:09 pm
by Zeok
i just changed the title. I'm going to make a series of posts with improvements for Gonzo.

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2023 5:16 pm
by Zeok
I added a new section to the topic: "Stop spraying the woman's ass with oil during penetrations".

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2023 5:05 am
by xxxVIPERxxx
I think the woman's posture, the camera angle, and what they are doing to the girl (in terms of sexual interactions) are certainly things that studios and performers can always improve on....
You have a lot of good points!

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2023 2:37 pm
by Zeok
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I think the woman's posture, the camera angle, and what they are doing to the girl (in terms of sexual interactions) are certainly things that studios and performers can always improve on....
You have a lot of good points!


Look, we are 100% in agreement on this. What annoys me the most about the Gonzo.com studio is the very short time that the directors dedicate to filming the dp or dap in cowgirl position. In this Giorgio can teach about it. I insist. 3 minutes on average is nothing. 5 minutes minimum is better. And Ideally, 6 to 8 minutes.

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2023 7:10 pm
by dap-addict
Zeok wrote:i just changed the title. I'm going to make a series of posts with improvements for Gonzo.
Zeck, I think it would help if you added 'with back arching upwards' into the title already.

Zeok wrote:the woman's back should mostly arches upwards. Occasionally the man underneath could pull the woman's body closer to him. But the arched body should be the norm.

This is the most crucial thing in cg positions.
Directors should stipulate that arch before they start to shoot and help the girls keeping this position by placing a studs cock in front of them to suck. They dont have to bj all the time, bit that cock or balls has to be there like a lighthouse. And it helps them arch their back!
Anchor studs might actually grab the girl can press her against their body, but upper torso still ideally has to try to reach that cock lighthouse.

Some girls might have problems the way they are built to arch upwards. I recently had a longer discussion about that with Nela Decker, who used to shrimp her back a lot also for GIO. It's not easy for her, but she gets exactly why it looks better - and tries her best. :)

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2023 3:46 pm
by paobroncix01
dap-addict wrote:Directors should stipulate that arch before they start to shoot and help the girls keeping this position by placing a studs cock in front of them to suck. They dont have to bj all the time, bit that cock or balls has to be there like a lighthouse. And it helps them arch their back!
Anchor studs might actually grab the girl can press her against their body, but upper torso still ideally has to try to reach that cock lighthouse.

Some girls might have problems the way they are built to arch upwards. I recently had a longer discussion about that with Nela Decker, who used to shrimp her back a lot also for GIO. It's not easy for her, but she gets exactly why it looks better - and tries her best. :)


I fully agree with you on this. It is a task for the directors to make sure that the girls are in the right position with upwards arched back, whey they are in CG position. The amount of arching also depends on which of her holes is in action, her holes have to be positioned to make entry easy. But indeed for some girls it is not easy to do so.

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:04 pm
by dap-addict
paobroncix01 wrote:But indeed for some girls it is not easy to do so.

It can be very painful a position especially with some dick shapes and we have to be aware of that: 5-6 years ago I had an in-depth discussion with a petite Russian girl about her cgDAP problems. After she felt hurt by one actor, who didnt tear her up luckily, she had a psychological barrier when he entered her in cgDAP. At the same time he was pretty un-replacable at that time.
The girl finally over-came that problem and was able to relax, but it needed a lot of mental training also for her. It's really not only a position and not only a dick shape problem!

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:11 pm
by paobroncix01
dap-addict wrote:
paobroncix01 wrote:But indeed for some girls it is not easy to do so.

It can be very painful a position especially with some dick shapes and we have to be aware of that: 5-6 years ago I had an in-depth discussion with a petite Russian girl about her cgDAP problems. After she felt hurt by one actor, who didnt tear her up luckily, she had a psychological barrier when he entered her in cgDAP. At the same time he was pretty un-replacable at that time.
The girl finally over-came that problem and was able to relax, but it needed a lot of mental training also for her. It's really not only a position and not only a dick shape problem!

You are right, it is also a matter of experience, and it has to be built up slowly and not over-rushed. After a bad experience a girl might cramp, and not be able to relax her muscles anymore. It is difficult to come back from that.

Re: Urgent improvements.P2 Better Dp/Dap/Tp in cowgirl position.

PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 pm
by dap-addict
paobroncix01 wrote:After a bad experience a girl might cramp, and not be able to relax her muscles anymore. It is difficult to come back from that.

That girl needed about 3 more DAPs to reach a balance. Mostly it was just psychological in her case. And sad enough it was linked in her head just to one stud, who actually is a good fucker technically. Just when entering her for DAP she suddenly went into a wrong angle and it hurt her terribly.

It's so many factors interplaying to get a good cg double fuck result, it's not only a tech issue!