Lia Lin

[ringstinger]

Still hoping for an Anton Hardon scene in the future but this will do.

Damn.. Anton's cock would closely split her in half!

[Valdor869]

She looked amazing in the last scene but as far as I’m concerned it was a slight disappointment. She barely took that cock halfway in and general it was way less hardcore than what she’s already done. For me she’s best put to work in gangbangs.

[robinsonmuniz120]

I like her very much. I'd like to see her taking a DVP/DPP.

[ryukenmaster666]

She did DPP here :

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/139246

[robinsonmuniz120]

She did DPP here :

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/139246

Thanks mate!
I hope she'll do more DPP/DVP. She is fantastic.

[ryukenmaster666]

Hope too! Even, who knows, a triple vag!

[RedBaron]

If she is still out of Russia, why hasn't she been in Prague yet?

[Valdor869]

That’s what I don’t understand. She’s made for Prague, she would be a huge star for them. She’s already shown she’s willing to do gangbangs and everything that goes with it. The scene recently released scene from Spain was very disappointing. The guy was far too gentle with her, if I didn’t know better I would have guessed it was her first scene! GET HER TO PRAGUE PLEASE GUYS! Does anyone have an update on her?

[SimplyStunning]

^I'm still keeping everything crossed that she does many scenes for Gonzo, Angelo Godshack, Xfreax and Giorgio Grandi Studio. It is frustrating that she is finally out of Russia but does not shoot scenes in Prague.

[reniquebaugh]

That’s what I don’t understand. She’s made for Prague, she would be a huge star for them. She’s already shown she’s willing to do gangbangs and everything that goes with it. The scene recently released scene from Spain was very disappointing. The guy was far too gentle with her, if I didn’t know better I would have guessed it was her first scene! GET HER TO PRAGUE PLEASE GUYS! Does anyone have an update on her?

That last scene was one of her best. I don't see the point of those other scenes where we're seeing more of other men than we are seeing her and where she obviously isn't enjoying the scenes. Double this and triple that when, in those scenes there's no actual penetration happening and no pleasure for anyone.

[Valdor869]

That last scene was very underwhelming to me. To go from gangbangs to taking one cock halfway in is a big step back in my opinion. She must be comfortable with gangbangs or she wouldn’t have done them from so early on in her career.

[dap-addict]

She must be comfortable with gangbangs or she wouldn’t have done them from so early on in her career.

You dont know what she's comfortable with basically. She started with NRX and they shot their full program with her. Almost certainly it was coincidence Lia Lin started with them and not another studio.
If she changed for a lighter approach once given the opportunity that shows she wasnt happy with her work before. Because light pays less also, lest she gets caught by Vixen.

Clue isn't only to scout a girl but make her comfortable with what the studio is shooting. Here NRX constantly fails. Its not so much about hard vs. soft or more or less dicks a girl works with, but lighting a fire within the girl for a certain genre of porn and getting her smitten into that genre. Work on porn set is hard no matter whether its hard or soft; very often those soft studio shots take much more time.

Lia Lin could have been great with GIO or gonzo in Prague, but this would have involved an active export policy. Doing nothing but keeping her tied to NRX doenst help here. Eventually every girl looking for more or other work will get caught if she's not happy at NRX.

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

LIA LIN IS OUT. THE CHANCE TO SEE HER HERE AGAIN IS SECOND TO NONE.

If she is still out of Russia, why hasn't she been in Prague yet?

Because she HATES Nicolas, HATES LP, HATES Nicolas/ Archie Rock / NRX, Tells the world that he bribes russian authorities and that he is known for ratting out competition in Russia,
HATES piss, HATES ANAL, HATES DP, says she got Lidocain stuffed in her anus, and basically never wants to come back!

Besides, pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) brought her to Brillbabes agency of his top buddy Eszter and Robert in Budapest and it is their policy to not work with WGCZ affiliated studios in Prague because gerbier doesn't allow that!

That’s what I don’t understand. She’s made for Prague, she would be a huge star for them. She’s already shown she’s willing to do gangbangs and everything that goes with it. The scene recently released scene from Spain was very disappointing. The guy was far too gentle with her, if I didn’t know better I would have guessed it was her first scene! GET HER TO PRAGUE PLEASE GUYS! Does anyone have an update on her?

No, she isn't made for Pragues. As per her own words, she has been traumatized, humiliated, had multiple break-downs on set, always dissociated her mind from her body for all her scenes as to be not really present in the studio when she got all her holes fucked and getting pissed and had to see a therapist for a long time. So, she hasn't shown that she's willing to do gangbangs. It was all play.

^I'm still keeping everything crossed that she does many scenes for Gonzo, Angelo Godshack, Xfreax and Giorgio Grandi Studio. It is frustrating that she is finally out of Russia but does not shoot scenes in Prague.

Wait forever.

That last scene was very underwhelming to me. To go from gangbangs to taking one cock halfway in is a big step back in my opinion. She must be comfortable with gangbangs or she wouldn’t have done them from so early on in her career.

Perception and truth are two different concepts. What you see is not always the reality. Surely you know that the gross majority of models do this job for money, not for fun. They play that they do it for fun. She has done those scenes early in her career because she felt she couldn't say no.

She must be comfortable with gangbangs or she wouldn’t have done them from so early on in her career.

You dont know what she's comfortable with basically. She started with NRX and they shot their full program with her. Almost certainly it was coincidence Lia Lin started with them and not another studio.
If she changed for a lighter approach once given the opportunity that shows she wasnt happy with her work before. Because light pays less also, lest she gets caught by Vixen.

+1 However, it wasn't a coincidence she started at NRX. Her ex-boyfriend/agent was buddies with Nicolas (Archie Rock).

Clue isn't only to scout a girl but make her comfortable with what the studio is shooting. Here NRX constantly fails. Its not so much about hard vs. soft or more or less dicks a girl works with, but lighting a fire within the girl for a certain genre of porn and getting her smitten into that genre. Work on porn set is hard no matter whether its hard or soft; very often those soft studio shots take much more time.

Well, listen to what she said in gerbier's casting on her own initiative and with gerbier (woodman) of course putting oil on the fire continuesly throughout the interview. She keeps looking down with her eyes in utter sadness and on the verge of crying. She pretty much destroyed everybody and everything involved. She burned all her boats and bridges, so suffice to say, the chance that she will be back is second to none.Lia Lin could have been great with GIO or gonzo in Prague, but this would have involved an active export policy. Doing nothing but keeping her tied to NRX doenst help here. Eventually every girl looking for more or other work will get caught if she's not happy at NRX.[/quote]

Just go to Google and search for woodmancastingx lia lin. In case the streaming options get dmca'd, her's the transcription I made:

Woodman casting interview transcript - 2022-07-09

0:53: Lia Lin: I'm 21.

01:00 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Unfortunately you didn't start wit me.

01:14 Lia Lin: I started about 8 months ago, in October 2021. before that I was filming for my ex-bf and it was just a lesbian scene. Only 1 girl and only solo. Ex-boyfriend (and also agent) offered me a job, because I had some problems in Turkey, before that I was working as a translator and I got fired, so he offered me the job, he told me that I'm gonna get good money, so, I did it, and I didn't really know where I was going, what I was doing, so, yeah.

02:18 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): And how was it your first time in porn?

Lia Lin: Uh, it was not the best, because, uhm, I started with anal and uh, In real life, I never did it, I hated it, and I still do

03:00 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Interesting boyfriend and agent haha. So, he proposed you to work for a company, the one who gave you the job, and then it was a disaster, am I right?

03:04 Lia Lin: yes

Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman):because you never did anal before in your life and they jump on you for anal.

03:09 Lia Lin: they told me that the scenes are gonna be only with girl/girl and anal is gonna be one time but it will pay very good money, so I was like, I'll try, just once, and see what happens, but I was very scared. So, I had my first anal, and uh, it was not the best and in the video you can see how painful it was. The scene was only with one guy.

03:36 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): So, They told you it will be girl/girl but then it was a guy.

03:46 Lia Lin: yea

03.47 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): wow cool, hahah. And the money was so good as they say or not?

03:53 Lia Lin: It was avarage. It was okay

03:55 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): what is okay?

03:57: Lia Lin: amount?

03:58 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): yes. How much it was?

4:03: Lia Lin: Probably like 800 maybe.

04:07 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Wow, for a "shy?"/ Rookie (inaudible) it's a lot. For a "Shy?"/ Rookie? (inaudible) it's a lot of money. Because many time they give 2 or 3 hundred, so, you were lucky. Probably because your bf was in the story hahah

04:21 Lia Lin: before I started porn and filming with my bf, I talked to my mom, she knows, at first she wasn't too happy, but since she has problems with health and all that, she told me, if you need a job, you need a job, so. But I didn't tell her how bad it was.

04:43 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): You also explained to her you did your first time with a guy and stuff like that but you don't tell her it was terrible?

04:49 Lia Lin: I told her my first time but I never told her it was anal because she was against. I just told her I did a scene and it was okay and I'm tired and that's it.

05:02 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): and then, what happens after?

05:04 Lia Lin: After that, I was booked, I didn't know, like what the schedule was, what and when the payment is, I was just booked for the whole month, almost every day is anal. It was pretty bad. I had mental break-downs (PW: Wow) because the unfortunate situation. I cried. I tried to cancel these shoots. I wanted to leave the industry, but I was manipulated to come back. I was forced basically

05:35 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): You were forced?

05:36 Lia Lin: Uh, obviously I went because I needed money and all that but I was very uncomfortable. Every time.

05:49 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): But you cannot just stop?

05:52: Lia Lin: It's not easy to stop.

05:53 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): why? wait. why is it not easy to stop?

05:56 Lia Lin: During the scenes, on the set, I had panick attacks and I have those when I feel uncomfortable. So, I collapsed.

06:10 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): who was this people? You can say. who was this people?

06:17 Lia Lin: it was Nicolas. NRX-studio

06:20 Nicolas Artjim? (inaudible, but clearly his real name is being mentioned). Motherfucker! Big motherfucker! It was him your bf?

06:32 Lia Lin: No, my bf was my agent he took me [to him].

06:38 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): so your bf bring you to Artjim? (inaudible) Archy Rock, Nick Rock, who work for the best company in the world of course. Legalporn. Of course. Interesting.

06:52: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Wait. One thing I don't get. You said you have pannick attacks etc but in this case they don't tell you to go home or...?

07:08 Lia Lin: No. I had a scene that was dp. Before that I told Nicolas that I'm just gonna do 1 anal. Nothing more. Nicolas told me: sorry, but in this industry, without anal, you're nothing. You're not gonna get any money. No one wants to see it. No one is interested, so If you don't want to you can go. So, I had dp. I was very uncomfortable. I was hurt. Emotionally it also didn't felt right, so I had a break-down.

07:45 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): I can imagine.

07:48 Lia Lin: Then it that same scene, after I had the break-down, I wanted ot go home. I was crying. Nicolas just told me just breath through it and do the job. That's it.

08:04 Lia Lin: After that I didn't know I had my first pissing. That was very new to me and I was also very uncomfortable. So, yeah.

08:16 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): wow. But at least you're still here. So, that's good.

08:50 Lia Lin: So, after that month, I had to have about 15 scenes in one month, Nicolas told me, okay, you're free to go now. whatever.
Nicoals had a rotation of girls. But he saw that I was having good sales, so he told me: let's be exclusive. He told me let's film 40 scenes more and after that I'll help you in Europe and make you have a good career.

09:26 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): of course because now your career will be completely finished because already. 15 scenes is a lot. That's already too much.

09:35 Lia Lin: I went home. I told my mom I was done with this porn because it's too much for me. I had to have a therapist for a long time, but after some time, I understand, that I still needed money to help my mom and just to live.

09:57 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): it's good you contact me. Gabi spoke to you. That was nice.

10:00 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Lucky day. You're accepted to come here
And you will now start with Brillbabes! You will start with a REAL agency haha! I can tell you that in advance.

10:10 Lia Lin: Hopefully

10:30: Lia Lin: I'm traumatized from all of that. It can't be forgotten.

10:47: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): You're not the first one to speak to us this way.

10:48 Lia Lin: I know

10:49 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): We're used to have this kind of situation. You're not the first girl and there will be a lot more because people in your country don't know and of course the money is important, especially in this situation with the war and everything.

11:04 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): But there is some kind of guy like that who exploits people. This Archie rock is a big problem. I hope the authorities in Russia will put him in jail becuase this is exactly what he deserves.

11:17 Lia Lin: It's russia. So, it's impossible. As I heard, the way he is avoiding prison by...

11:25: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): he paid people

11:26 Lia Lin: Not only paying but just letting the authorities know where other studios are so that they will be closed. You didn't heard that from me, but, yea.

11:44 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): I don't care. I will say his name on video:
Artjim Mihilov (inaudible). I hope police will catch him and I have his birth day date. Motherfucker! I listen to this story, like you said to me, so many times.

11:54 Lia Lin: I know

11:55 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Myself, I brought him here in Budapest when he was beating a girl with his fist in her face and he get the correction here that's why he doesn't come back anymore to budapest. But this is a big big bad guy! He deserve, he deserve, he deserve to go into jail! Really!

12:13 Lia Lin: I know.

12:14 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): When you beat woman when you what he do to women he don't deserve nothing else.

12:17: Lia Lin: Obviously to girls who don't know he tells them that it's all lies and that people just hate him

12:23 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): yea, of course. of course. And because the girl don't know, they'll believe. And also he looks very good. He has a nice face

12:30. (rolling eyes up) uh,

12:34 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): I'm not gay. I'm not gay, but for me, I think he's looking not bad (giggles hi hi hi like a gay twinky) compared to some other guys, I can say he has the good looks so it helps for sure.

Few months ago his girlfriend, blonde girl, write to me on the internet that I'm a big motherfucker and that this guy is fantastic, the best guy of the world and... In my head I was thinking, okay, wait a bit few months or a few weeks until he will not need you any more for the video and see how your face will look in the mirror. We'll see if he is a nice guy.

Mary Rock. She kept the name, ROCK giggles hi hi hi.

Mary Rock hate him but at the same time she keeps the name he gave to her. A woman is sometime difficult to understand.

Anyway, here in Budapest, nobody will hurt you, nobody want to do anything bad to you. I will change your mind about anal sex, to change your mind about the porno industry and to make you feel more comfortable and enjoy. The most important thing when you do a job like this, with your body, with your pussy, is to enjoy. And when you start with trauma it's always complicated.

[...]

14:22 Lia Lin: I used to be a translator for business men. Long story, he was involved in illegal stuff and went to jail.

14:33 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): At least they do put people in jail in Russia hi hi

14:35 Lia Lin: before that I was doing modelling 6 years and obviously I was growing in that industry and there is the same kind of...you're treated as a thing

14:49 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): i know, i was working in fashion business before porn that why I know.

14:52 Lia Lin: I was used to thinking I am nothing. Use use use and next. They can use me for something and I can use them for money. That's why I stayed.

15:20 Lia Lin: I'm filipino-russian. I was not really born there but raised there. Basically. Then I came to russia. I don't speak filipino because my parents only spoke english. English and russian.

15:56: Lia Lin: I lost my virginity at 19. Before that I was scared of sex. I'm still shy at saying that word, which is weird, but in real life I'm conservative. My mom is not religious but she is very strict. Up to 18 I wasn't speaking to boys at all. I didn't have boyfriends. Nothing. Only school. Home. Video games. I was a nerd. Doing good at school.

16:50 Lia Lin: My first time was traumatizing. I'm not lucky. My first boyfriend was a satanist. Our first time was in a graveyard. It was a bad. Well at least it was something to remember but it was very painful. I stayed 2 years with this guy. He was my last relationship. After that, nothing. 2 relationships: satanist and boyfriend/agent.

18:06 Lia Lin: But I had like hook-ups but I didn't really enjoy that so I tried experimenting with women. That was nice. I enjoyed it.

**She is telling that she is disappointed in guys and that she has more pleasure with women than with men**

Lia Lin: I like to train some boys that are virgins and I tell them what I like.

19:37 Lia Lin: I discovered blowjob only in porn. Never blowed anybody before porn. No, it's kinda disgustive, ugh, no, I only lick pussy [in my private life] and that's it. I treat giving blowjobs as [part of my] job. Sperm? Ugh. Everybody taste different but most of the time it's not my thing. Cum in mouth and swallow only for the job. In real life, no.

20:44 Confirms that she never had a good feeling with anal ever.

20:55 Lia Lin: Anal and dp both the same. Both difficult. When I shoot, then I'm mentally not there. I just flow the way and think of something else. After the shoot I don't remember anything.

21:21 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): I'm sure they also did lidocaine in your ass? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidocaine)

21:22 Lia Lin: They tried to but it just made it worse. It made it burn. So, no thank you.

21:28 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): Wow

21:24 Lia Lin: so obviously my face in each scene is kind of....

21:40 Lia Lin: I tried a lot to show on camera that I'm not in pain, but I am.

21:44 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): I was sure you were in pain, I see your videos, and see your face and I knew you were not happy but I didn't imagine it was at this level. Not only now after what you said but that they also forced you to do things against your will. That is unacceptable. This is why people think porno industry is a shit and that is making me very very nervous. Note: The hypocrisy of pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) is out of this world and really from another level!

22:16 Lia Lin: First time with a woman was a model from Ukraine. We had a model trip. We had photo shoots One time we got drunk we kissed and I though, okay, this is cute, after she showed me experience. She was older. I liked it very much and thought, wow, I didn't know I'm attracted to women.

22:49. Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): It's normal you liked getting your pussy licked and that you liked it. Note: Coming from Gerbier's lips that gay behavior is normal LOL.

23:48 Lia Lin: My type of men is feminine. Long hair and a face that is between a woman and a man. Probably because I like women. Gentle men also in sex. Taking care of me.

25:20 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): It's normal. Especially after what you got.

25:28: Lia Lin: It's kinda misconception that when guys see my scenes that they're like, oh, you're probably into very dirty stuff and you love it hard and no.

25:25 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): This was not what I think when I see you. I knew before you arrive here, it would be like this. Also because you spoke with my assistant (Gabi) that I knew you were not in the good shoes. I knew.

26:00 Lia Lin: **Slapping face is not her type of sex**. Choke: no. Only if I choke. If I find feminine enough person...I usually am the dominant. I put them in positions, fold them, and I choke etc. I like to choke people. Don't like spit in the face. Dirty talk. I prefer sweet walk. I guess normal things. I never got tied up. I did experiment in BDSM but I was the dome, so I had the bull whip. I like to insulting people. For example for (paid) video call, telling them how shit they are.

27:45: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): You liked it because you want to take revemge because of your situation? So it was a way to vent.

27:54 Lia Lin: yea. I'm a pretty positive person. I try not to be angry all the time. I try to let go.

28:05: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): But when you have the possibility to yell at someone you get rid of the toxin inside you from the bad moments you had. Of course.

28:12 Lia Lin: yea.

28:28 Lia Lin: Watching 50 shades of grey is boring. Ugh. It's not interesting. No interest in getting tied up, but I can tie someone up.

28:51 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): you know what is a rimjob?

28:56 Lia Lin: My first and last rimjob was with nicolas. I don't like. No, thank you.

29:13 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): PW it's very sad. It's one of my favorite things giggles hi hi hi Note: Consensus has it that it is gay behavior to like a tongue up your crack for the anal stimulation.

29:18 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): the piss you did it and you hate it?

29:21 Lia Lin: It was disgusting. What traumatized? me the most of all was piss. Not even the dp and stuff. Just the thought of being pissed on is like degrading for me. A lot of time I was very depressed over that. I don't like it.

29:50 Lia Lin: I like masturbation. When I feel like it I do it often. Very nice. Very pleasurable. I never put fingers inside. Only clit rubbing. I started doing so at 9.

30:50 Lia Lin: My height is 1.74m

31:35 Lia Lin: I'm gonna show my little itty bitties [breasts]. I think about getting sillicone breasts.

32:06 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): you love yourself?

32:06 Lia Lin: Obviously.

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

Pitty that this girl wasn't even awware that she was being used by pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) as a vehicle for his war against wgcz and affiliates by published the unabridged casting interview where lia lin explicitly said "you didn't hear it from me" whilst thinking it was a private conversation between where delicate stuff would be edited out as to not jeopardize her career in any way, shape or form. More than half of the interview Gerbier was putting oil on the fire and basically encouraging her as a snake that he is to tell more and more "dirty little secrets".
Gerbier for sure had a massive hard-on hearing all Lia Lin had to tell.

[dap-addict]

Bp lier APE is showing his deep anti-porn stance here.
His hidden agenda is channeling girls to other sex work, but working for his war against LP.
How much more honest was Nick Rock against this! Also its entirely not what Lia Lin was looking for.

[JBird]

Kitty Doll88 has asked me to post the following, which is her opinion entirely. I will relay responses to her:

"After reading the interview, I was horrified, I really feel sorry for everything that happened to her, I hope that soon she will come to her senses and recover from what happened. What about Woodman, I am familiar with the girl he put in a not very pleasant light, let her be careful.

"Porn is big money, but mental health is not worth any big money, I speak as a person who has them (as well as an eating disorder) and now I'll tell you a few moments of the fact that sometimes happened.

"Once Nick told me that I got a little fat, which is why I ate very little for a week after that. It was terrible, he also kicked me and Lia Lin in the leg at the same shoot because he was angry about something, but later apologized. It was terrible, but I'm a person who is quite generous to people and can understand their problems.

"Now I'm not shy to say it and understand that all those moments were with me, just nothing compared to what happened to her. It's terrible. Be strong, Lia. You will be able to pass it and you will be a brave and strong girl! She is my favourite model in porn."

[reniquebaugh]

This just highlights how little a lot of the men consuming porn know about pleasuring women or making them comfortable. It's just "I want what I want", Double this and triple that because of course she likes it...I like it so she must. If you watch the scenes and her reaction and expression it's just a performance. A lot of women go into porn to get cash to change their current status and you can tell the ones who truly enjoy what they are doing if you actually try. For Lia, when she's doing solo scenes you can tell she's a lot more free and actively participating

[Ultra-Gape]

How much more honest was Nick Rock against this!

Has Nick posted a response somewhere that you're referring to?

[YumYum74]

I have not seen any response from Nick, but given other stories I have read/heard about, I tend to believe everything Lia said.

[dap-addict]

How much more honest was Nick Rock against this!

Has Nick posted a response somewhere that you're referring to?

No, I relay on what Lia said about Nick. I believe her.
But compared to Bp lier APE he still looks very good, at least honest.

[Ultra-Gape]

How much more honest was Nick Rock against this!

Has Nick posted a response somewhere that you're referring to?

No, I relay on what Lia said about Nick. I believe her.
But compared to Bp lier APE he still looks very good, at least honest.

If you believe what Lia says then she was lied to. There are significant other issues than being honest raised here too. I'm not sure a game of who looks least bad is really the best way to respond to this.

[Ultra-Gape]

Kitty Doll88 has asked me to post the following, which is her opinion entirely. I will relay responses to her:

"After reading the interview, I was horrified, I really feel sorry for everything that happened to her, I hope that soon she will come to her senses and recover from what happened. What about Woodman, I am familiar with the girl he put in a not very pleasant light, let her be careful.

"Porn is big money, but mental health is not worth any big money, I speak as a person who has them (as well as an eating disorder) and now I'll tell you a few moments of the fact that sometimes happened.

"Once Nick told me that I got a little fat, which is why I ate very little for a week after that. It was terrible, he also kicked me and Lia Lin in the leg at the same shoot because he was angry about something, but later apologized. It was terrible, but I'm a person who is quite generous to people and can understand their problems.

"Now I'm not shy to say it and understand that all those moments were with me, just nothing compared to what happened to her. It's terrible. Be strong, Lia. You will be able to pass it and you will be a brave and strong girl! She is my favourite model in porn."

I'm conscious nobody has replied to this, which I'll take as genuine comments from Kitty. I'm sure a long discussion here wouldn't be in Kitty's best interests so I'll just say I'm obviously sorry to read of the bad experiences that she has had and really hope they are behind her now. Like I'm sure the overwhelming majority of customers I care hugely about the girls happiness and wellbeing and only wish the best for her.

[JBird]

I'm conscious nobody has replied to this, which I'll take as genuine comments from Kitty. I'm sure a long discussion here wouldn't be in Kitty's best interests so I'll just say I'm obviously sorry to read of the bad experiences that she has had and really hope they are behind her now. Like I'm sure the overwhelming majority of customers I care hugely about the girls happiness and wellbeing and only wish the best for her.

I can assure you they are genuine and I have passed your comments on to her.

[dap-addict]

There are significant other issues than being honest raised here too. I'm not sure a game of who looks least bad is really the best way to respond to this.

Indeed there are! I'll have to read that interview carefully first, though.
I'd also like to know the significance of colors applied by poster.
If you care for a girls wellbeing on set, it was long obvious that NRX didnt let her grow as a porn model. They could made a superstar of her, but instead they lost her to the worst manipulator and women abuser in porn. Its a thin line we walk here, but its very easy to attack Nick Rock compared to where Lia Lin could have gone for work with true LP core studios. I dont claim all is ideal, but that mess we have now here is an anti-porn mess basically. And in these terms its important who looks bad and who worse - and who would almost certainly look pretty good if he was there.

Basis of all is girl needs money for her mother medical treatment. Its clearly not the motivation fans of Lia Lin want to read. But from this point a responsible director still can do a lot to make Lia Lin's work choice a good one. Bp lier APE doenst care for that ofc, all his links point in other side of sex work, a side Lia Lin could have chosen straight away as most Russian girls in need of money do.

[Ultra-Gape]

If you care for a girls wellbeing on set, it was long obvious that NRX didnt let her grow as a porn model.

I don't really follow the logic of your point here but for what it's worth I have not bought or watched any Lia Lin scenes.

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

Bp lier APE is showing his deep anti-porn stance here.
His hidden agenda is channeling girls to other sex work, but working for his war against LP.
How much more honest was Nick Rock against this! Also its entirely not what Lia Lin was looking for.

You can accuse pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) of many things, but not that he has an anti-porn stance. He want to keep the status quo before the whole me too movement became fashion and when women needed to shut up, get paid poorly, and stay exclusive for life and with almost zero competition and maximum profit for the director.
However, the result of behavior and opinions/approaches/ideas etc of cockroaches like gerbier are the cause for anti-porn sentiments.This interview with Lia Lin wasn't about gerbier being truly concerned about some "replaceable" porn model like Lia Lin, it was about the snake gerbier USING Lia Lin as a vehicle for his fight against wgcz affiliated competitors (without her being aware of this since she thought certain sensitive/delicate/ career damaging stuff would be edited out like the bribing/ratting out competitors in Russia by Nicolas/Archie Rock; hence why she said "you didn't heard that from me"). Gerbier showed fake concern and was constantly in a very sneaky subtle way adding fuel to the fire throughout the whole interview, which was essentially about NRX/ Nicolas/ Archie Rock + a bit of other personal stuff which I added for the fans of Lia Lin to get a better picture of who she is. Notice the satanic boyfriend who took her virginity and popped her cherry on a graveyard.

Gerbier has a long history witch Nicolas/ Archier Rock and takes every opportunity he gets to harm him and his career. This interview was just a nice free present and truly icing on the cake without him having to fabricate "alternative facts". In this casting interview we also learn that gerbier basically gets a wet dick from the "handsome" looks of Nicolas / Archie Rock, heck, they even share the same name pierre andre nicolas gerbier. Both people with questionable behavior. Both playing dirty games to get rid of the competition. One with lies/manupulation and many other tactics, the other one alledgedly with bribing people in power with money etc. and ratting out the competition in Russia by telling the authorities where porn locations of competitors are in Russia so that they subsequently get raided by the cops and they will not. Nicolas is basically a young gerbier (in the making), but more "handsome" compared the the latter. Now it's Nicolas who gets all the young cute chicks where 20/30 years ago it was gerbier. It's all hate and envy. One day it will be: the "king" is dead, long live the "king". Nicolas is mini gerbier. And he hates successors like every and anyone in the animal kingdom.

So, about nicolas being more honest like you say, you can't really tell as an outsider without knowing all the details. Fact of the matter is, that aside from the ulterior motives and hidden agenda of gerbier, that this is a really bad situation that lia lin was in when she did all those 15? scenes for NRX. The reason for me spending all this time on making this transciption was because I felt bad for all the abuse lia lin said she endured (which was a VERY believable story if you could see her talk and see her body language with the frequent shameful look with her eyes towards the carpet throughout the interview; just search google woodmancastingx lia lin and see for yourself; many people posted free streaming options/ download links).
I also saw how many people kept asking/requesting for her comeback, so it would only be logical to enlighten people about the background story and why her comeback might not be very soon if at all. NRX and shooting in Russia is out for sure.

Let's hope lia lin is smart enough to figure that (russian) studios (like nrx) that (excusively) publish their scenes on PornBox/LP/Analvids are independent and that they have nothing to do with wgcz or with other independent studios that are shooting out of Prague. But even if she is aware of this, then it will still be a hell of a job to get her to grandi/gonzo since gerbier told us in the casting that his part-time make-up artist / assistent/ recruiter/ lady groomer/ accomplice gabriella/gabi tchekan and he convinced her to join brillbabes agency, who basically don't collab with wgcz affiliated studios in whatever country they may shoot. They strongly "advise" girls to not works with studios here because it would be "bad for their career", but true story is that brillbabes get kickbacks* from gerbier accoring to dan leal (another director shooting out of Budapest): *Kickback = an illicit payment made to someone in return for facilitating a transaction or appointment. viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&start=3400#p681515 So the advise is a scam. Unfortunately. Nicolas/NRX pushed lia lin directly in the claws of the biggest sexual predator there ever was in the european porn biz. So, goodbye forever lia lin????

Lia lin is living in budapest now (according to her bio on her IG):

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So, being directly in the sphere of influence of both gerbier and brillbabes does not give high hopes of seeing her perform in Prague.
Baby Swabery (https://www.analvids.com/model/3922/baby_swabery) has also been smuggled to Brillbabes by snake gerbier (like dozens of other girls who once had different agencies that were less favourable to gerbier's activities and interests) and she's out now too. Sharon White too got repimanded most likely for shooting once with grandi: https://www.analvids.com/model/83307/sharon_white even though she was highly successful on PornBox, they got "advised" that it would be bad for their career to work for lp affiliated studios more than that single time. Probably she got booked without interference of the agency. That would explain why she ended up here for that single scene and then nothing.

Perhaps the Prague based studios can work magic on all of those brillbabes girls ((blonde) hungarian girls are unfortunately very rare on PornBox), but honestly when you read the transcript I made of the lia lin interview, or better yet, if you are able to watch the casting and read her body language then there isn't really much hope to see her (or other BrillBabes babes) here any time soon. Lia lin traded one monster for another. That's the hypocrisy of this whole interview with one huge monster/wolf in sheep's clothing consoling an helpless girl for another monster.

Anyway, I hope lia lin will let all of this go through her head while she is on vacation in Iceland now (according to her Insta) and while she is perhaps visiting and relaxing in the blue lagoon/sky lagoon sauna spa and then act accordingly when she resumes her work activities. Veronica leal is also with Brillbabes and she continues to work here becuase she has a strong mind of her own to say FUCK YOU, I do what I think is in my best interest. But then again, she is so profitable for brillbabes, that they won't fire her for shooting here.

Kitty Doll88 has asked me to post the following, which is her opinion entirely. I will relay responses to her:

"After reading the interview, I was horrified, I really feel sorry for everything that happened to her, I hope that soon she will come to her senses and recover from what happened. What about Woodman, I am familiar with the girl he put in a not very pleasant light, let her be careful.

"Porn is big money, but mental health is not worth any big money, I speak as a person who has them (as well as an eating disorder) and now I'll tell you a few moments of the fact that sometimes happened.

"Once Nick told me that I got a little fat, which is why I ate very little for a week after that. It was terrible, he also kicked me and Lia Lin in the leg at the same shoot because he was angry about something, but later apologized. It was terrible, but I'm a person who is quite generous to people and can understand their problems.

"Now I'm not shy to say it and understand that all those moments were with me, just nothing compared to what happened to her. It's terrible. Be strong, Lia. You will be able to pass it and you will be a brave and strong girl! She is my favourite model in porn."

What a brave girly for showing her vulnerability and talk about her insecurities and speak up against those 2 directors.
Please, let her forever remember to never let a female and especially a man make her feel less good about herself. Just laugh it off and when you get bullied, bully back.
Too much insecure men/women nowadays in this social media age that kill themselves for silly things which had they not, they would laugh about it when they grow older.
Don't be another Kris the foxx. Sad case.
This is a good video to watch/remember/bookmark if you're self-concious in life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oKjW1OIjuw
I hope Kitty and Lia can find each other on social media and find support with one another and share their experiences with each other. Hopefully it will strengthen their self-worth.

This just highlights how little a lot of the men consuming porn know about pleasuring women or making them comfortable. It's just "I want what I want", Double this and triple that because of course she likes it...I like it so she must. If you watch the scenes and her reaction and expression it's just a performance. A lot of women go into porn to get cash to change their current status and you can tell the ones who truly enjoy what they are doing if you actually try. For Lia, when she's doing solo scenes you can tell she's a lot more free and actively participating

+1
We live in an highly individual me, me, me ego social media era. Only one important is me and my needs, wants, and wishes.
But on the other hand, you can also not expect that people will "investigate" and research thorougly if a girl is 100% zen and cool before being "allowed" to enjoy their scenes.
Not everyone likes their boss and their work, but they still do it with a smile on their face. Only when we hear these type of stories from models, then we must allow ourselves to speak up against this abusive.

I'm conscious nobody has replied to this, which I'll take as genuine comments from Kitty. I'm sure a long discussion here wouldn't be in Kitty's best interests so I'll just say I'm obviously sorry to read of the bad experiences that she has had and really hope they are behind her now. Like I'm sure the overwhelming majority of customers I care hugely about the girls happiness and wellbeing and only wish the best for her.

I can assure you they are genuine and I have passed your comments on to her.

Who are you anyway? Her agent/boyfriend? ;=) Why can't she post/write herself in whatever language she is comfortable?
English seems to be okay seeing her social media and your message (or is that text not original and translated/paraphrased from Russian by you?)
@kittydoll88 (TW)
@kittyidol88 (Insta)
TikTok?

There are significant other issues than being honest raised here too. I'm not sure a game of who looks least bad is really the best way to respond to this.

Indeed there are! I'll have to read that interview carefully first, though.
I'd also like to know the significance of colors applied by poster.
If you care for a girls wellbeing on set, it was long obvious that NRX didnt let her grow as a porn model. They could made a superstar of her, but instead they lost her to the worst manipulator and women abuser in porn. Its a thin line we walk here, but its very easy to attack Nick Rock compared to where Lia Lin could have gone for work with true LP core studios. I dont claim all is ideal, but that mess we have now here is an anti-porn mess basically. And in these terms its important who looks bad and who worse - and who would almost certainly look pretty good if he was there.

Basis of all is girl needs money for her mother medical treatment. Its clearly not the motivation fans of Lia Lin want to read. But from this point a responsible director still can do a lot to make Lia Lin's work choice a good one. Bp lier APE doenst care for that ofc, all his links point in other side of sex work, a side Lia Lin could have chosen straight away as most Russian girls in need of money do.

Lia Lin comes across very intelligently. Perfect english.Very believable and I'm pretty positive that she would have no issues at all to pass the lie detector test. I don't think she has a hidden agenda or ulterior motives to lie about such delicate matters, especially since she probably thought that the sensitive/delicate things that she talked about during the casting interview would stay between her and gerbier. Of course this snake did not edit out stuff that could actually be harmful for her (and her career), but that doesn't interest gerbier. He got free ammunition in the form of a video that he can use against his young russian successor Nicolas. It's a love and hate relationship as gerbier already made very clear in the lia lin interview that he gets wet panties and a raging cock from Nicolas/archy rock.
About the significance of the colored font. Well, like you said, the attention span of the general porn consumer looking for a quick masturbation fix and looking for info on this forum if there is a mentioning for firstin/prolapse/scat/piss/puke/dap/quatro asshole penetration for a certain scene/girl, is very low. People generally don't care about a girls feelings, background stories, or whether or not a model felt abused like reniquebaugh said, they care only for their own needs and getting sticky fingers. They don't want to read a wall of text. Hence why I used color schemes for sentences which I think capture the most interesting parts of the interview for those who don't want to read the whole transcript thoroughly. Blue is supposed to be lia lin. Red for gerbier. But on a few occasions it got mixed up, so you need to look at the name I posted after the time marks. You can clearly see how gerbier used lia lin by constantly adding fuel to the fire in a very subtle way. Let this me a warning for other girls planning to run in the arms of this notorious self-proclaimed women abuser and the rogue agency brillbabes that he uses to capture them in his scary spider web.

[dap-addict]

So lets start here:
Bp lier APE manipulation game vs. Nick Rock according to Lia Lin:

Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman):because you never did anal before in your life and they jump on you for anal.

03:09 Lia Lin: they told me that the scenes are gonna be only with girl/girl and anal is gonna be one time but it will pay very good money, so I was like, I'll try, just once, and see what happens, but I was very scared. So, I had my first anal, and uh, it was not the best and in the video you can see how painful it was. The scene was only with one guy.

03:36 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): So, They told you it will be girl/girl but then it was a guy.

03:46 Lia Lin: yea

First: A lot of girls do anal first time in porn, but they usually prepare for it ofc.
Second: According to Lia Nick Rock told her it would be an anal scene. So he passed to truth to her, she had the choice and she accepted to try - motivated by the good payment. - The only thing we dont know is does Nick Rock really also shoot g/g only? Also we dont know whether he made it seem g/g anal, but context sounds like Lia knew it would be b/g anal.
Third: Bp lier APE jumps exactly on this un-spoken - but contextually clear as we later see by the fee payed - seemingly uncertainty: he pretends they said it was a lez scene only and Lia was betrayed. Lia confirms lier APE's manipulative suspicion. But again context is clear it was a trial 1on1 bg anal. It was painful for Lia because she didnt prepare properly for it. At least she doenst mention her stud was unkind or worse to her.
The only thing we might ask is why her BF and NRX agent didnt tell her to train her ass before going to studio? - Still, booking is clear, Lin is a rookie, but she doenst live on the moon. So far I see no wrong, apart from lier APE's manipulation.
Also insiders will see that she was really payed fair for her 1st b/g anal.

[RedBaron]

Poor Lia, she got from bad to worse.

But this story shows, that NRX is one of the worst studios at AVLP. As I said many time: their products are unfair. They think everybody is stupid and doesn't see the fake cum.
Because of that I never bought any scene from NRX. Now I can be happy, that my money is not used to treat girls bad.

[slvrrayleigh23]

After going through the threads posted here,all I can say is that I truly sympathize with her.
Also,does giorgio have any say/control over what goes on other studios like NRX or N&F.
I mean surely he would be aware of this

Also fuck pierre woodman for using that girl to wage war against LP

[dap-addict]

RedBaron, dont jump too fast into PW reasoning please!
Better think for yourself.

Lets see next bit, where at the end Bp lier APE arrives where he wants to go: At attacking LP.

05:02 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): and then, what happens after? (first anal with Nick, explanation dap-a)

05:04 Lia Lin: After that, I was booked, I didn't know, like what the schedule was, what and when the payment is, I was just booked for the whole month, almost every day is anal. It was pretty bad. I had mental break-downs (PW: Wow) because the unfortunate situation. I cried. I tried to cancel these shoots. I wanted to leave the industry, but I was manipulated to come back. I was forced basically

05:35 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): You were forced?

05:36 Lia Lin: Uh, obviously I went because I needed money and all that but I was very uncomfortable. Every time.

05:49 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): But you cannot just stop?

05:52: Lia Lin: It's not easy to stop.

05:53 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): why? wait. why is it not easy to stop?

05:56 Lia Lin: During the scenes, on the set, I had panick attacks and I have those when I feel uncomfortable. So, I collapsed.

06:10 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): who was this people? You can say. who was this people?

06:17 Lia Lin: it was Nicolas. NRX-studio
(...)
06:38 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (Pierre Woodman): so your bf bring you to Artjim? (inaudible) Archy Rock, Nick Rock, who work for the best company in the world of course. Legalporn. Of course. Interesting.

Basis is again Lia Lin needs money for herself and her mother who has a medical problem.
First: After difficult first 1on1 anal scene Nick (NRX) books her for many other scenes. Lia accepts those bookings - probably because she needs the money.

Second: They dont shoot anal every day because its 15 scenes in 1 month. Lia isn't telling truth here, but I think it felt like every day for her and you feel she didnt like that job. They probably shot anal every 2nd day like everybody else from true LP core studios does. Btw, no idea how Bp lier APE does shoot anal...

Third: PW asks her if she was forced on set, thats honest even. Lia doesnt say that, she only hints social reality forced her to do those porn shots. Again it might have been her subjective way to deal with material problems and they way out presented, but by no means NRX is to be blamed to propose her that job. 1 vs. 0 for Nick here.

Bad practice is not revealing to girl what is planned on set in advance, though. Here however PW doenst ask further, which would be needed. It must have been clear to her porn job involves more anal. Later we have a strange Q/A section about anal vs. DP - while DP always involves anal. Lia sure has known that than and when interviewed by PW. Still her answers to PW are unclear and PW doenst ask exactly. Also a form of manipulations, leaving things unclear, unsaid, suggesting bad had happened on NRX (= LP (sic!)) set.

Lia says she had panic attacks because she felt uncomfortable and she collapsed. Poor girl! Again I do believe her. Still her answer basically shows how desperate she was to earn that money doing those jobs proposed by Nick. Her need for money is a bigger problem than NRX set. Still she obviously again didnt prepare for her anal on-set job.
Also PW doenst ask why she felt uncomfortable: was it the sex acts to blame? The studs? The overall studio atmosphere? The lack of Lia's anal preparation? etc.

So here again: Basic problem of Lia is she needs money and chooses to take Nicks proposition to gain it doing porn scenes. Sad truth for many Lia fans is they learn she isn't craving for the sex she gets on set, but she does it only for the money.
Apart from not clearly communicated schedule I dont see a NRX fault.

[dap-addict]

The porn market for non anal sex is huge; we here at LP are a niche audience, we are far from the majority.

Yes, maybe, but this is what I meant by "coincidence".
Lia Lin needed money fast and coincidentally at exactly that point she got offered NRX work. Her coincidence was that her BF was than (or still is) a NRX scout and NRX shoots anal porn.
Now from this point Lia Lin could make best of what was offered to her or change job, but you always have to keep in mind she needed money urgently and NRX offered her many scenes summing up to probably even 10k within 1mt.
We dont learn from that interview how much money she needed, but fact is she is still in that biz. Many girls not happy with NRX way of shooting porn or the sex acts offered went soft meanwhile, also non anal. That way would have been open to Lia Lin after completing her 1mt booking, too, but somehow she chose BB agency in Budapest to represent her interests on her 1st EU tour. Probably also this was coincidence rather than choice. BB sends all their girls first to the Bp lier APE who manipulates them for his own needs, which lie much outside porn, be it anal or non-anal.

I do hope that at this point all for Lia Lin is still open. She can learn to enjoy shooting anal sex in porn as well as switch to pussy only porn, which in turn is also demanding to shoot. She'll sure also guide herself by they amount of money she wants to earn.

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

If you care for a girls wellbeing on set, it was long obvious that NRX didnt let her grow as a porn model.

I don't really follow the logic of your point here but for what it's worth I have not bought or watched any Lia Lin scenes.

What were your reasons for this?

Look at how hot Lia is

She could make A LOT of money in porn without doing anal. There are tons of OFs with girls who don't do anal and they are making bank. Some of the biggest porn girls in the US make big money without doing anal.

I am sad to hear of her situation; but she can make a good income without anal if she so desires. She is a 20 out of 10 in looks and body.

The porn market for non anal sex is huge; we here at LP are a niche audience, we are far from the majority.

Well, that's exactly what is happening now that she is under the influence of Gerbier and Brillbabes agency.

[...]but somehow she chose BB agency in Budapest to represent her interests on her 1st EU tour. Probably also this was coincidence rather than choice. BB sends all their girls first to the Bp lier APE who manipulates them for his own needs, which lie much outside porn, be it anal or non-anal.

I do hope that at this point all for Lia Lin is still open. She can learn to enjoy shooting anal sex in porn as well as switch to pussy only porn, which in turn is also demanding to shoot. She'll sure also guide herself by they amount of money she wants to earn.

I guess you're not done yet with your ANALizing of the transcript (or watching the actual casting through google) of the lia lin interview and commenting on it in this thread, otherwise you would have read/seen that gerbier told us in the lia lin interview @ 10:00 that it was not a coincidence that she is now with BrillBabes. Part-time make-up artist / assistent/ recruiter/ lady groomer/ accomplice gabriella/gabi tchekan and him convinced her to sign a contract with Brillbabes!

As you know, this happened dozens and dozens of times that models get stolen from other agents/agencies by gerbier and his accomplices with sweet words, or when the models are still independent, signed with exclusivity stipulations set up in the contract or in verbal agreements. It was the case with Micha Cross (and many many others) and it's the case with lia lin now!

About the tactics and modus operandi of Gerbier where models (in this case Mischa Cross) are being stolen from an other agency to "protect his business"

Besides, pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) brought her to Brillbabes agency of his top buddy Eszter and Robert in Budapest and it is their policy to not work with WGCZ affiliated studios in Prague because gerbier doesn't allow that!
[...]

09:57 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): it's good you contact me. Gabi spoke to you. That was nice.

25:25 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): [...] Also because you spoke with my assistant (Gabi) that I knew you were not in the good shoes. I knew.

10:00 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): Lucky day. You're accepted to come here
And you will now start with Brillbabes! You will start with a REAL agency haha! I can tell you that in advance.

10:10 Lia Lin: Hopefully

10:30: Lia Lin: I'm traumatized from all of that. It can't be forgotten.

10:47: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): You're not the first one to speak to us this way.

10:48 Lia Lin: I know

10:49 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): We're used to have this kind of situation. You're not the first girl and there will be a lot more because people in your country don't know and of course the money is important, especially in this situation with the war and everything.

11:04 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): But there is some kind of guy like that who exploits people. This Archie rock is a big problem. I hope the authorities in Russia will put him in jail becuase this is exactly what he deserves. Note: Gerbier should really not talk about people exploitation as being the biggest exploiter/abuser the business has ever known.....

06:20 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) Nicolas Artjim? (inaudible, but clearly his real name is being mentioned). Motherfucker! Big motherfucker!

I feel bad for lia lin to have gone through what she said she has at NRX, but I feel additionally bad for the fact that she (unknowingly and naively) runs in the arms of an even larger predator/abuser and his rogue accomplice brillbabes who both say that they have the models best interest at heart. Reality is that both the rogue agency and gerbier only do what is in their best interest in terms of exclusivity for certain sex acts (anal etc), or in terms of exclusivity (for a certain time frame or ideally for as long as the contract exists) regarding jobs where the model is only allowed (by contract or by verbal agreements) to work with "befriended" directors/producers. Gerbier and Brillbabes are known to set up illegal false competition obligations by contract or by verbal agreement that the model must adhere (=not working for the competitor (=wgcz affiliated studios) of Brillbabes biggest kickback provider: gerbier). Hence why Hungarian models are almost not represented on PornBox and never seem to be flown to Prague to shoot for the LP affiliated studios.....My prediction: Lia Lin is OUT.

[dap-addict]

...that gerbier told us in the lia lin interview @ 10:00 that it was not a coincidence that she is now with BrillBabes. Part-time make-up artist / assistent/ recruiter/ lady groomer/ accomplice gabriella/gabi tchekan and him convinced her to sign a contract with Brillbabes!

As you know, this happened dozens and dozens of times that models get stolen from other agents/agencies by gerbier and his accomplices with sweet words, or when the models are still independent, signed with exclusivity stipulations set up in the contract or in verbal agreements. It was the case with Micha Cross (and many many others) and it's the case with lia lin now!

This is not a coincidence, no. This is indeed a very sad fact.
But I think its also partly Nick Rock to blame here because he completely neglect active career planning for the girls scouted for NRX, especially he seems closed to any idea of an active export policy. Thus girls get stuck with NRX or are done with NRX already after 1 round and as bad as porn was for them according to their claims they look for other options outside. I probably know who scouted Lia Lin for BB, but its not info belonging here.

Bp lier APE has a freeway for his lowest dirty games mounting up to anti-porn policy de facto, there where no dams are built against him. BB is forced to a certain scheme of collaboration by blackmail, thats pretty obvious meanwhile, but co-op with lier APE is mainly giving him access to a new BB girls first. Rest depends a lot also on the girl. Seeing Lia Lin only as victim doenst help here either, its still a fact that she wanted to go to Hungary for EU porn work tour. Maybe she was caught by prospect of never-anal-again (except for Bp lier APE ofc), maybe she is generally open for all well-payed booking offers.

[xxx]

Woodman is the biggest liar in the industry and is also known to pay models to lie to damage competition. Don't believe anything they say. His entire world is made of lies and manipulation.

He's also a pedo.

[xxx]

Woodman supports Russia in its war against Ukraine. There is really nothing more to say, he's a sack of shit, period.

[Ultra-Gape]

What were your reasons for this?

No reasons relevant to the current discussion. My sole reason for mentioning it was that something that may have been 'obvious' from Lia's videos wouldn't have been obvious to me as I'd not seen them.

[RedBaron]

RedBaron, dont jump too fast into PW reasoning please!
Better think for yourself.

Don't worry dap-a. I know who's Lia talking to.
But please remember Nick Rock and Evelina Darling. Evelina left the business... And in this case PW wasn't involved.

[dap-addict]

I remember the Nick Rock and Evelina Darling story very well.
There is a record of him also working in Prague.
He is a problematic figure, thats sure a problem here. But a person can also change, remember that. Fact that PW doenst change doenst mean others can't. Compared to PW all Lia and Kitty reveal of NRX studio practices and atmoshere is nothing.

[rtj1408]

RedBaron, dont jump too fast into PW reasoning please!
Better think for yourself.

Don't worry dap-a. I know who's Lia talking to.
But please remember Nick Rock and Evelina Darling. Evelina left the business... And in this case PW wasn't involved.

Total novice here. What's the story about Evelina Darling and Nick Rock?

[maximaxi77]

As i said before, Nick Rock is stu**d country boy who doesn't know basic respect for models. Yes, NRX produced decent content but ruined careers of girls and their will to continue shootings. They are just not smart enough to behave like professionals.

Woodman supports Russia in its war against Ukraine. There is really nothing more to say, he's a sack of shit, period.

Woodman is no trustable person in porn-related things, but when US pumping Ukraine with weapons just to continue destruction and the Sun openly posting videos on youtube with ukranian soldiers wearing SS badges, there is no any options to get it wrong.