Abby Evans - New Colombian Model

[latina-girls-yes]

I want this girl to be absolutely destroyed and her asshole completely wrecked.

i absolutely agree... in a loving and romantic way, obvs

tbh Viper, what i'd like *more than anything* at the moment is just for Abby's release schedule to pick up some forward momentum (assuming she hasn't stopped shooting for Natasha already?) because one scene a month feels very much like starvation rations

another decent DP - and preferably this year - would more than satisfy my needs for the time being. and we can forgo all the more demanding stuff (double anal fisting, shitting on the floor and human sacrifice, etc) for a later date

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I want this girl to be absolutely destroyed and her asshole completely wrecked.

i absolutely agree... in a loving and romantic way, obvs

tbh Viper, what i'd like *more than anything* at the moment is just for Abby's release schedule to pick up some forward momentum (assuming she hasn't stopped shooting for Natasha already?) because one scene a month feels very much like starvation rations

another decent DP - and preferably this year - would more than satisfy my needs for the time being. and we can forgo all the more demanding stuff (double anal fisting, shitting on the floor and human sacrifice, etc) for a later date

I found that last part of your comment very funny...!

Demanding stuff like double male anal fisting, shitting and licking the shit off the floor, made me chuckle ))

[latina-girls-yes]

I want this girl to be absolutely destroyed and her asshole completely wrecked.

i absolutely agree... in a loving and romantic way, obvs

tbh Viper, what i'd like *more than anything* at the moment is just for Abby's release schedule to pick up some forward momentum (assuming she hasn't stopped shooting for Natasha already?) because one scene a month feels very much like starvation rations

another decent DP - and preferably this year - would more than satisfy my needs for the time being. and we can forgo all the more demanding stuff (double anal fisting, shitting on the floor and human sacrifice, etc) for a later date

I found that last part of your comment very funny

well... we may yet discover that Abby Evans has hidden depths (and never say never!)... but for now, discovering that Abby is also working as Tammy now makes me wonder if she may have already moved on to other (more softcore) things, perhaps having been asked by Natasha if she was interested in shooting up to DAP and Abby declining that invitation
as many others here, i don't need DAP to enjoy a scene and don't see it as the holy grail that all models should be working towards, as some here do (and if that is what they like then that is that they like, and they have the right to say so)

but i do wonder that if a new model shoots up to DP (with much passion and proficiency, and much suport on the forum) but then declines to go onto DAP when the studio asks, that they may be let go by the studio, so as that studio can focus its energies on those models who may want to go onto that level

perhaps there is a financial incentive for the studios to take that approach, if (i don't know) there is a huge difference between the maximum a studio can charge for a DP to see it sell sufficient numbers in order to recoup investment + (in a market where it's competing with DAPs from the same and other studios), and the average DAP sales price to recoup +

in that light, one can imagine how a studio with limited time to train and shoot new models each week (alongside shooting their more established performers) may well choose to focus on those performers most likely to reach that level, and leave other models (even if they are popular performing at DP) to fill in gaps in the shooting schedule or let them go entirely

before i found out Abby is shooting elsewhere, i felt more confident about seeing her here again. but now it's clear she has other irons in the fire, i left wondering what may be

[latina-girls-yes]

PSA: a request to anyone here with a p****ub log-in that they can use to comment on p****ub videos, and who be ok with asking Abby a question?

if that's you, then please could you ask Abby aka Tammy via a comment in her most recently released scene if she intends to shoot with Natasha and Lancelot again in the near future? it would be useful to know either way

she's here p****ub.com/model/tammy-taylor7 (i initially hesitated to post the link when i found it as i wasn't sure if it broke a rule, but since Lizarbian later posted it here anyway without an issue, i think it's probably ok. the underlying purpose is to encourage Abby to shoot more for studios that releases here, so it's fundamentally pro-pornbox-sales activity)

it's been well over a month since Abby's last scene was released, which leads me to believe that if Natasha had shot anything else with her while she was at the studio, it would have already been released by now (models who are 'active' at the studios usually get a couple of scenes released per month)

as Abby has released several scenes on ph since then (essentially lightweight camgirl content - but for those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like), that could indicate that she's left Natasha's studio and is focused on camming content now, or it could just be a side-hustle project while she waits for her next proper shoot with Natasha

many thanks in advance to anyone willing to take that mission on and to report back with anything she says on the subject

[latina-girls-yes]

and who be ok with asking Abby a question?

grammar is for wimps!

[dap-addict]

Abby is absolutely irresistible. yield to her charms!

They didnt shoot her DAPbreakin'?
Really a long wait and still no fellow-up scene!

[Lizarbian]

If this happens, it will be a good and rare exception. We can list several models who had potential, but disappeared. In Abby's case, I think it's more difficult because she already makes money performing soft scenes. Coincidentally, Abby was the last of the new ones to appear on Natasha. Alexandra Moore and Emma Kitty have not appeared yet. I regret that Vicky Demon has also disappeared.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

You never know, maybe she is just not active now, but that does not mean she will not be active in the future, or that we will see her back at some point in the future.

[dap-addict]

If this happens, it will be a good and rare exception. We can list several models who had potential, but disappeared. (...) Alexandra Moore and Emma Kitty have not appeared yet. I regret that Vicky Demon has also disappeared.

Every DAPbreakin' not shot after 2 intro scenes is a big loss no matter how girl takes it, no matter if she quits afterwards because porn isnt for her.

[dap-addict]

add: Meaning much worse if she quite porn before leaving us with her DAPbreakin' legacy. Because if she performs it fine, we will really treasure her legacy very high, if she fails we may be emotionally shaken and feeling for her, but we know porn wasnt for her if she doenst re-appaear.

[latina-girls-yes]

Abby is absolutely irresistible. yield to her charms!

They didnt shoot her DAPbreakin'?
Really a long wait and still no fellow-up scene!

i wonder if part of the reason Abby has not released more scenes with Natasha may be as a consequence of what i call 'The Tyranny of DAP', according to the laws of which if a model has shot a debut 1-on-1 and a first DP, if she then says she doesn't want to go on to DAP she is let go by the studio and we never hear from her again

this would explain (though there could be other reasons) as to why all thosee new models that have debuted for Natasha so far this year have left after a couple of scenes, Vale Cortez, Abby Evans, Ana Cleopatra, and there may be others that i haven't followed closely. they were happy to shoot up to DP, but didn't want to go further than that (though some of them may have wanted to try further down the line)

the sole exception to this being Dulce Miller, who has attemtped DAP, but who now (clearly having a bad experience during her DAP attempt) may also be reconsidering appearing again for Natasha

this is the *huge* problem (imo) with studios in latin-america treating DAP as the Holy Grail

great models like Abby (assuming this 'DAP or nothing' scenario applies in her case), who could have shot and sold many more scenes as either intense 1-on-1s or DPs, are effectively shut out of producing more content for the studio after just a couple of scenes, and fans of those models who would have happily bought such scenes get nothing

there may be other reasons for this, but it seems to me (as someone who follows the latin-american scene closely, and the output of Natasha's studio above all) that for so many new Natasha models to happily shoot up to DP, then suddenly stop, does invite the suspicion that the scenario outlined above is taking place

as an aside, this dilemma also relates to why i started a thread here a few weeks ago about whether there is a space in the latin-american xxx scene for a studio that has a more back-to-basics approach to porn production than the current 'Big 3' (NTP, Yummy and Mambo)

by which i mean the apperance of a studio that is focused primarily on intense 1-on-1s and DPs (with DAPs as an option for those models who want to progress to tha, but not expected of them as a matter of course), and with none of the circus nonsense (the piss with everything and extreme puking) that seems to be an imported idea from LP/AGO europorn, and not native to the latin-american scene

on that non-native content theme, i remember Oscar (Mambo) saying here recently that even DAP was not in great demand natively (because latin-americans think it's gay, as he said) but that latin-american studios were shooting it primarily in order to try to appeal to the LP and euro audience who seem to expect that

i've gone off-topic a bit here from the particular into the general (though i think they are linked), but those are two ideas ('The Tyranny of DAP' and 'room for a new larin-american sutdio?') for members to think about and discuss (discussion of this general point belongs in the thread i started about the potential for a new latin-american studio here viewtopic.php?f=96&t=92542#p1368997 and not in Abby's dedicated model thread)

but coming back to Abby, the reason as to why Abby may have disappeared after shooting just two scenes for Natasha (both of which aroused much excitment and approval from from members) may well be implicit in your own question DAPaddict, in your making clear that your expectation that her third scene schould be a DAP

in 2015 (when LP was just coming into being as a major force in porn) and new models had far fewer options, hard bargaining by the studios along these lines (DAP or nothing) was a tenable position for the studios to insist on as the minimum bar for entry. nad it produced the results it produced

*but ten years later* new models clearly now have a multitide of options to self-produce and sell their content (OF, PH, and many other private subscription service), and so it may be that we have reached a point in porn production time where those who still think that they can bargain with new models on those terms are living in the past

models have far more options, and the option to walk away from that offer entirely and still have a viable career in xxx is among them

hence one reason as to why we may have lost Abby (or so it seems)?

[latina-girls-yes]

add: Meaning much worse if she quite porn before leaving us with her DAPbreakin' legacy. Because if she performs it fine, we will really treasure her legacy very high, if she fails we may be emotionally shaken and feeling for her, but we know porn wasnt for her if she doenst re-appaear.

i strongly disagree with that statement

that's your personal imposition and implication DAPaddict - a symptom of your DAP monomania (which you are entitled to, each to their own) - which follows that if a model doesn't shoot DAP then porn wasn't for her

in reality there are many porn fans here (and not only here, members here are just a fraction of the xxx market) who would be extremely happy to see Abby (and many other models like her) perform in many more scenes, *even if* there were no DAP content in those scenes (as evidenced here by the huge support for Abby's debut 1-on-1 and her follow up DP)

not wanting to shoot DAP only means that she doesn't want to shoot DAP (though may choose to try it later into her career). that doesn't mean that porn isn't for her (as many successful pornstars who never shot a single DAP prove)

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Abby is absolutely irresistible. yield to her charms!

They didnt shoot her DAPbreakin'?
Really a long wait and still no fellow-up scene!

i wonder if part of the reason Abby has not released more scenes with Natasha may be as a consequence of what i call 'The Tyranny of DAP', according to the laws of which if a model has shot a debut 1-on-1 and a first DP, if she then says she doesn't want to go on to DAP she is let go by the studio and we never hear from her again

this would explain (though there could be other reasons) as to why all thosee new models that have debuted for Natasha so far this year have left after a couple of scenes, Vale Cortez, Abby Evans, Ana Cleopatra, and there may be others that i haven't followed closely. they were happy to shoot up to DP, but didn't want to go further than that (though some of them may have wanted to try further down the line)

the sole exception to this being Dulce Miller, who has attemtped DAP, but who now (clearly having a bad experience during her DAP attempt) may also be reconsidering appearing again for Natasha

this is the *huge* problem (imo) with studios in latin-america treating DAP as the Holy Grail

great models like Abby (assuming this 'DAP or nothing' scenario applies in her case), who could have shot and sold many more scenes as either intense 1-on-1s or DPs, are effectively shut out of producing more content for the studio after just a couple of scenes, and fans of those models who would have happily bought such scenes get nothing

there may be other reasons for this, but it seems to me (as someone who follows the latin-american scene closely, and the output of Natasha's studio above all) that for so many new Natasha models to happily shoot up to DP, then suddenly stop, does invite the suspicion that the scenario outlined above is taking place

as an aside, this dilemma also relates to why i started a thread here a few weeks ago about whether there is a space in the latin-american xxx scene for a studio that has a more back-to-basics approach to porn production than the current 'Big 3' (NTP, Yummy and Mambo)

by which i mean the apperance of a studio that is focused primarily on intense 1-on-1s and DPs (with DAPs as an option for those models who want to progress to tha, but not expected of them as a matter of course), and with none of the circus nonsense (the piss with everything and extreme puking) that seems to be an imported idea from LP/AGO europorn, and not native to the latin-american scene

on that non-native content theme, i remember Oscar (Mambo) saying here recently that even DAP was not in great demand natively (because latin-americans think it's gay, as he said) but that latin-american studios were shooting it primarily in order to try to appeal to the LP and euro audience who seem to expect that

i've gone off-topic a bit here from the particular into the general (though i think they are linked), but those are two ideas ('The Tyranny of DAP' and 'room for a new larin-american sutdio?') for members to think about and discuss (discussion of this general point belongs in the thread i started about the potential for a new latin-american studio here viewtopic.php?f=96&t=92542#p1368997 and not in Abby's dedicated model thread)

but coming back to Abby, the reason as to why Abby may have disappeared after shooting just two scenes for Natasha (both of which aroused much excitment and approval from from members) may well be implicit in your own question DAPaddict, in your making clear that your expectation that her third scene schould be a DAP

in 2015 (when LP was just coming into being as a major force in porn) and new models had far fewer options, hard bargaining by the studios along these lines (DAP or nothing) was a tenable position for the studios to insist on as the minimum bar for entry. nad it produced the results it produced

*but ten years later* new models clearly now have a multitide of options to self-produce and sell their content (OF, PH, and many other private subscription service), and so it may be that we have reached a point in porn production time where those who still think that they can bargain with new models on those terms are living in the past

models have far more options, and the option to walk away from that offer entirely and still have a viable career in xxx is among them

hence one reason as to why we may have lost Abby (or so it seems)?

If you are not successful, or have a tough time of it at the start...there is a saying...TRY, TRY, AND TRY AGAIN...

I remember I spent weeks preparing for my first ever big promotion (going back decades)...I did not get it. It took me 4 to 5 attempts before I eventually got it. And with each career/corporate promotion it was no plain sailing, and through lots of hard work and perseverance, I got there eventually.

[dap-addict]

Abby is absolutely irresistible. yield to her charms!

They didnt shoot her DAPbreakin'?
Really a long wait and still no fellow-up scene!

i wonder if part of the reason Abby has not released more scenes with Natasha may be as a consequence of what i call 'The Tyranny of DAP', according to the laws of which if a model has shot a debut 1-on-1 and a first DP, if she then says she doesn't want to go on to DAP she is let go by the studio and we never hear from her again.

That theory really sounds hilarious, sorry l-t-y!
The fact that I expect an ambitious new porn girl to try DAP within 3 scenes doesnt lead to NTP abandoning business options with girls they invested time and money to scout first!
There are a 1000 reasons a girl might get into and again leave porn!

in 2015 (when LP was just coming into being as a major force in porn) and new models had far fewer options, hard bargaining by the studios along these lines (DAP or nothing) was a tenable position for the studios to insist on as the minimum bar for entry. And it produced the results it produced.

*but ten years later* new models clearly now have a multitide of options to self-produce and sell their content (OF, PH, and many other private subscription service), and so it may be that we have reached a point in porn production time where those who still think that they can bargain with new models on those terms are living in the past

models have far more options, and the option to walk away from that offer entirely and still have a viable career in xxx is among them.

Look, l-t-y and all others who might feel like jumping on an anti-DAP train because of very nice Latina girls lost: Undeniable fact is fees payed for DAP are much higher than for 1on1 or even 4on1 anal. Girls enter porn with a main financial motivation - although they usually have mixed side motivations supporting their personal choice - and so they try what is payed best. Fees are payed often still in cash just after the scene is completed. If girls are in financial needs option like OF, PH etc. cant beat the fast cash option.


Btw, Dulce Miller: Like you I was on the verge to fall in porn-'love' with her, so lets get down seriously with emotional responsibility to her case: IF she's leaving porn because of that painful DAPbreakin' failure its still not DAP calls of users or also studios to blame, but her lack of preparation. There are many ways to make it work, studio should instruct girls properly and also girls do share experiences.
Finally girls have a pain tolerance and if motivation is high enough they will stuff away very difficult first experience away. To blame DAP for it is trying to brainwash other porn users!

[dap-addict]

add: Meaning much worse if she quite porn before leaving us with her DAPbreakin' legacy. Because if she performs it fine, we will really treasure her legacy very high, if she fails we may be emotionally shaken and feeling for her, but we know porn wasnt for her if she doenst re-appaear.

i strongly disagree with that statement

that's your personal imposition and implication DAPaddict - a symptom of your DAP monomania (which you are entitled to, each to their own) - which follows that if a model doesn't shoot DAP then porn wasn't for her.

latina-girls-yes, see my post above!
With the bolded part I alluded to the latest Dulce Miller case.
It's not at all about DAP, but about qualities needed from the girls performing in pro porn like NTP, Yummy and also European LP studios shoot it: Girls need to prepare properly, they need a certain minimum level of pain tolerance and emotional resilience.
If they quit porn after very difficult be it 1on1 anal or DAPbreakin' or whatever scene, porn wasnt for them.


On a margin I tell you my own experience with a 3 scene DAPbreakin' of a girl I had co-scouted some years ago: She wanted to try DAP because she needed the money, but getting her to really do it needed a lot of psychological and simple body training. DAPbreakin was very painful for her, but she did it because she had promised me to not give up. Girl had a pretty high pain tolerance, but many things happening on set and BTS put an emotional strain on her. Main obstacles were linked to self-esteem, difficult childhood etc. Soon afterwards she left porn for personal reasons, her BF didnt approve. Ofc you would say there is DAP to blame, would you?

[mrbadself]

Why not more scenes? Insta buy