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Giorgio, I noticed that besides me, several users have practically begged you to launch subscription plans (monthly and annual) with full access to the collection of scenes from the Giorgio Grandi studio. I guarantee you that anyone who obviously has a normal life will take several months to enjoy all the scenes you have released and will release. Imagine an affordable price, say US$29 per month: you could raise an excellent amount to profit and reinvest in the production of new scenes and discovering new talent.
As it stands today, your oldest scenes - the classic ones - have fallen into oblivion, because I imagine few (or no one) would spend their tickets on them (do new users know Sindy Rose, Jessy Jey, Moona Snake, Selvaggia, May Thai...?). You can resurface with strength by doing this. You will have nothing to lose.
The model through which AV/PB sells its scenes is completely outdated.

M_sicas_Candido wrote:Giorgio, I noticed that besides me, several users have practically begged you to launch subscription plans (monthly and annual) with full access to the collection of scenes from the Giorgio Grandi studio. I guarantee you that anyone who obviously has a normal life will take several months to enjoy all the scenes you have released and will release. Imagine an affordable price, say US$29 per month: you could raise an excellent amount to profit and reinvest in the production of new scenes and discovering new talent.
As it stands today, your oldest scenes - the classic ones - have fallen into oblivion, because I imagine few (or no one) would spend their tickets on them (do new users know Sindy Rose, Jessy Jey, Moona Snake, Selvaggia, May Thai...?). You can resurface with strength by doing this. You will have nothing to lose.
The model through which AV/PB sells its scenes is completely outdated.

I agree somehow
When I add “old” scene to the membership plan, no one knows it.
I’m going probably to re-release the scenes I’m going to add to the membership, I’m thinking about it in those days

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I’m going probably to re-release the scenes I’m going to add to the membership.

I think this model of selecting only a few scenes to the membership has not been pleasing users (just my opinion).

M_sicas_Candido wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I’m going probably to re-release the scenes I’m going to add to the membership.

I think this model of selecting only a few scenes to the membership has not been pleasing users (just my opinion).

Yeah - I get that you don't want people to pay a monthly membership fee, download everything in a week, then cancel - but as you can limit the amount of downloads people are allowed each month, it might make sense just to put up everything that's a few years old, and let people choose what they want to watch.

I am very sorry to hear that Giorgio Grandi is thinking of handing the reins over to someone else.

davebowman wrote:I get that you don't want people to pay a monthly membership fee, download everything in a week, then cancel - but as you can limit the amount of downloads people are allowed each month

Do like Evil Angel: this site offers option of a cheaper membership among others but without the possibility of downloading.

I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.

What other alternative than to make his scenes more accessible to the public (financially speaking)?

This reminds me of the rivalry: streaming x cinema. Where I live, ticket prices to watch a film at the cinema have always been high compared to the average income of the population. Then, streaming arrived: now, with the price we paid to watch ONE film, we now have a huge collection of productions available to watch at any place and time. Adhesion was instantaneous.

I think nothing more needs to be said.

WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month + interview + backstages and probably some other stuff.
Price will not change, 10$/month + tax

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.

I think an investment into good PR on more social media channels and re-viving the forum for the most loyal heavy consuming users combined with intelligent and fair import options from Colombia and Brazil could be a way out. Girls would stay 2mt and shoot a whole program of fetish and story based scenes, maybe even up to 30, and take a guaranteed attractive sum back home at the end. Girls would basically work for local COL/BRA rates, but perform much more and thus earn more money per time. Scenes and more diverse styling and storylines would have to be planned carefully and advertisement on social media and Pornbox forum needs to work.

Giorgio's filmmaking style also needs to remain. Some of the last scenes included in the collection have even worse quality than those from AGO. Follow the traditional recipe which has been worked.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month + interview + backstages and probably some other stuff.
Price will not change, 10$/month + tax

Awesome idea! How do we know which 10 we'd get for the 10$? Curious before I sign up

dap-addict wrote:

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.

I think an investment into good PR on more social media channels and re-viving the forum for the most loyal heavy consuming users combined with intelligent and fair import options from Colombia and Brazil could be a way out. Girls would stay 2mt and shoot a whole program of fetish and story based scenes, maybe even up to 30, and take a guaranteed attractive sum back home at the end. Girls would basically work for local COL/BRA rates, but perform much more and thus earn more money per time. Scenes and more diverse styling and storylines would have to be planned carefully and advertisement on social media and Pornbox forum needs to work.

And how about trying to film for all user groups and not just for clothing and shoe lovers? When I fanatically film only and exclusively for my favorites and everyone else from high above, it is probably not surprising that the crash is already at the door. A huge number of people who do not prefer clothed women in porn would very much like to buy the scenes, but they have no choice. The grand master doesn't shoot for them, he shits on them. The one or two films a month really won't save it, especially those approvals of the type where the actress finds herself without clothes and shoes only in the last five minutes of a scene that lasts an hour. And the other studios follow the same trend, Mambo 100% footwear, Lancelot, Natasha, AGO (the one doesn't even dare to undress a woman on its own website, preferring to put on tennis socks or knee highs) So probably Arriveders. It probably won't surprise anyone that once Latina Teens also started dressing up all the actresses and filming in shoes, it went bankrupt within a few months.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am still hopeful that there is a way to save him from collapse...it really is just a sign of the tougher financial times, and the pressures of the porn industry.

I know of one way. To finally stop directing the studio to the constant fanatical shooting in shoes and clothes, to the constant peeing that takes up half the movie, and to disgusting abominations like vomiting and drinking urine. It makes 99.99% of people's stomachs turn. We go to Swingers parties and if a woman vomits there, she is immediately thrown out on the street. The crash is just around the corner, you can see it more and more every day. Almost no new scenes are released. You may shake hands, you courtiers who have brought your grand master this far.

M_sicas_Candido wrote:Giorgio's filmmaking style also needs to remain. Some of the last scenes included in the collection have even worse quality than those from AGO. Follow the traditional recipe which has been worked.

The filmmaking style is absolutely superb. There is no doubt about it. But it would be good, and in my opinion the only possible thing, to go back to the good old days of 2012 - 2020, when women fucked each other and fucked in the anus, and the main goal was quality and hard DP, DAP. I think great actresses like Blanche Bradburry, Timea Bella, Linda Sweet, Billy Star, Gina Gerson, Cherry Kiss, Francesca DiCaprio, Meg Magic or Angie Moon would never shoot vomiting or drinking buckets of urine. And I personally go to a lot of GB events or Swingers, but I don't know of anyone who finds this exciting in porn.

justinwarren41 wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month + interview + backstages and probably some other stuff.
Price will not change, 10$/month + tax

Awesome idea! How do we know which 10 we'd get for the 10$? Curious before I sign up

Just go here:
https://pornbox.com/application/studio/29

on "Access via" and select "Membership Access". You will see all scenes included in the membership

justinwarren41 wrote:How do we know which 10 we'd get for the 10$?

Ok, now it's mainly the scenes marked as re-load.
In July there were still 4 newly released scenes.

unpublished from the NOREST era is better idea

Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...

I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.

Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...

I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.

Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.

But it has its perks to own the scenes indefinitely rather than renting them, so in the long run that investment will have been worth it.

How many scenes of fake and false Ria Sunn titles will be re-released? With correct and proper titles of course.

For example:

"--- ----- anal, DAP, Facial, Cum in Mouth, Swallow - but actually without any load being cum in mouth and no swallow" - x2.

"---- ----- anal, DAP, Creampie, Swallow - 8 of 8 loads fake sperm, swallow".

"------ ----- anal, DAP, Cum in Mouth, Swallow - but our cameraman and editor screwed all and swallow not filmed".

"----- anal, DAP, Cum in Mouth, Swallow - but actually drop first, then cut, then some swallow, as our cameraman no feeling to show her to swallow, before drop".

"----- anal, DAP, Cum in Mouth, Swallow - but then puked all, together with a new gallon of milk"

Also, how many of correct titles will be re-released but with more proper and "rich" versions?

"---- Anal, DAP, Facial - as we have a fetish to make worst scenes, just with her, she is not Nuria, Lola, Rebel, Kitty"

"---- Anal, DAP, Facial, Creampie - yes, we did it again, we are happy when waste her and make a worst scene of series, once again, every time".

"--- Anal, DAP, milk, milk, milk, more milk and piss and more piss - because porn was always about that, who cares about sperm".

"---- toys, Fisting, pussy - we had just some 35+ chances to make TP but we didn't - again we dont like to make best stuff with her, she is not Nuria, Rebel, Lola, Kitty"...

"--- anal, DAP, Cum in Mouth, Swallow - indeed all the loads were directly in mouth but nothing, completely dry, completely empty mouth, so she swallowed air" x2, 3, 4

He has begun deleting his old content.
Yo can read here
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=89398

1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!

Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...

Now I'm sure, this plattform will vanish within the next 12 twelve months.

lightrider wrote:Now I'm sure, this plattform will vanish within the next 12 twelve months.

And there is nothing bad in that. As they always give worst scenes to the best girl, they dont deserve to run anymore, from long time ago.

And blessed is everyone who never saw even a second of any trailer with her, at GIO.

dap-addict wrote:1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!

Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...

Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand

All content in the platform are going through a review (ID, cast, tags ecc). So a content maybe disappear for some time during this period of time. Its something needed to be done, but the amount of content is massive

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

dap-addict wrote:1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!

Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...

Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand

All content in the platform are going through a review (ID, cast, tags ecc). So a content maybe disappear for some time during this period of time. Its something needed to be done, but the amount of content is massive

My guess is he wrote that because for the last few weeks multiple scenes that people have paid for have been disappearing from their libraries, and your comment just now is the FIRST time anyone has given any indication as to why or what the problem is

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand

This comment is about another post by me, and unfortunately Giorgio is right since it wasnt needed so many months later. Anyway, I was misinformed by local contacts, now I know better. Sorry again!

Just generally: Look Giorgio, as long as I feel treated fair as a loyal user and as long as I get impression girls are treated fair as well, I shall support your business.

dap-addict wrote:

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand

This comment is about another post by me, and unfortunately Giorgio is right since it wasnt needed so many months later. Anyway, I was misinformed by local contacts, now I know better. Sorry again!

Just generally: Look Giorgio, as long as I feel treated fair as a loyal user and as long as I get impression girls are treated fair as well, I shall support your business.

Who are the local contact?

We'd better discuss this in private.
I can only add it was a typical gringo scheme, they want us EU/US to pay more for the same that others get much cheaper. Price they offer is cheaper than in Prague ofc, but it's not realistic as I learned too late. Anyway, I should have been quiet and sure not have suggested a coop tagged with a sum. Again I am sorry!

Giorgio Grandi wrote:

dap-addict wrote:1mt later: Re-release, but delete the same scenes for those who have bought them before! What a shitty thieve practice!

Giorgio Grandi wrote:WE will re-release randomly old scenes and they will be added to the membership. Probably like 10 scenes/month...

Why you have to write so stupid nonsense?
I dont understand

All content in the platform are going through a review (ID, cast, tags ecc). So a content maybe disappear for some time during this period of time. Its something needed to be done, but the amount of content is massive

Kapwn answered us something similar in the Support subforum. There has been a little chaos for the misinformation because the customers just logged in their libraries and saw that X number of scenes were gone.

Seems leggit show some complains, only him and you did an statement about what is happening but, during almost 2 weeks, any of us got any kind of explanation.

dap-addict wrote:they want us EU/US to pay more for the same that others get much cheaper.

Well, at least for me, who lives outside the US/EU axis, the prices seem the same; and I have noticed scenes disappearing or even not being released on Pornbox - however, on the producers' official websites, these scenes appear.

I'm talking about DAP fees for (imported) Latina girls, not scenes TKT prices.

dap-addict wrote:I'm talking about DAP fees for (imported) Latina girls, not scenes TKT prices.

Ok. Interpretive error.

dap-addict wrote:We'd better discuss this in private.
I can only add it was a typical gringo scheme, they want us EU/US to pay more for the same that others get much cheaper. Price they offer is cheaper than in Prague ofc, but it's not realistic as I learned too late. Anyway, I should have been quiet and sure not have suggested a coop tagged with a sum. Again I am sorry!

Here someone dared to speak up and point out something he didn't like, but he was immediately whisked away by the master's leash. Now he's obviously going backwards and trying to get into the master's ass.

liko19, you got that wrong really, and you'd have to read the original tread: Anyway, I suggested a global price for a 10 DAP booking of a Brasilian girl but my financial suggestion was based on wrong, much too high going fees for Sao Paulo. The girl read that original tread and some discontent started from her side it seems. I wasnt familiar with Brasilian porn prices than, meanwhile I know much better. I wont discuss Brazilian porn act fees here because it simply doenst belong here.
General problem is some users know bits from inside, but usually dont have full picture. Here my inside info was wrong on top, because it was the fee they locally dream about Gringos to accept, while local porn producers get the same much cheaper. Fees are really a very delicate matter! Its not about not being critical or creeping in ones ass, but fairness. Studios need fairness, girls need fairness and users as well. It was a mistake to put a figure based on a wrong São Paulo going rate, thats all I said.

dap-addict wrote:liko19, you got that wrong really, and you'd have to read the original tread: Anyway, I suggested a global price for a 10 DAP booking of a Brasilian girl but my financial suggestion was based on wrong, much too high going fees for Sao Paulo. The girl read that original tread and some discontent started from her side it seems. I wasnt familiar with Brasilian porn prices than, meanwhile I know much better. I wont discuss Brazilian porn act fees here because it simply doenst belong here.
General problem is some users know bits from inside, but usually dont have full picture. Here my inside info was wrong on top, because it was the fee they locally dream about Gringos to accept, while local porn producers get the same much cheaper. Fees are really a very delicate matter! Its not about not being critical or creeping in ones ass, but fairness. Studios need fairness, girls need fairness and users as well. It was a mistake to put a figure based on a wrong São Paulo going rate, thats all I said.

No point in engaging conversation with liko...in my opinion he has his views, we have our own views, let's just respect that and move on.

Anselm_Weinberg wrote:

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...

I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.

Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.

But it has its perks to own the scenes indefinitely rather than renting them, so in the long run that investment will have been worth it.

That's what I thought too. But after Giorgio Grandi himself or Pornbox employees simply deleted hundreds of his videos, which I paid for dearly, from my and all other libraries in August 2024, I think differently. And with so much "customer orientation", who would even think of taking out a subscription?

lightrider wrote:

Anselm_Weinberg wrote:

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:Without having to fork out tens of thousands of US dollars, very much like I did...

I guess-estimate that in about 10 years, the majority of Giorgio Grandi's scenes (up to this point) will be part of his monthly membership.

Personally, I would have preferred to pay for the premium porn at the point and time of release, if anything as a way of supporting the girls, the studios etc.

But it has its perks to own the scenes indefinitely rather than renting them, so in the long run that investment will have been worth it.

That's what I thought too. But after Giorgio Grandi himself or Pornbox employees simply deleted hundreds of his videos, which I paid for dearly, from my and all other libraries in August 2024, I think differently. And with so much "customer orientation", who would even think of taking out a subscription?

As far as I know, all the videos have been restored or so. Maybe some is still missed, but its a tech issue at this point. Probably some backstage/behind the scene (from 2023 and before) are still not available (another tech problem) but they will soon enough.

this is about my videos, if you miss videos from other studios, it means the studio did not provided the proper documentation and the videos are in "stand by" until the studio will provide the proper documentation about the scene