Hot vs Quality of skills ?

[Jaxkbnm]

What’s more important between the two options if you couldn’t have both?

[misangrenegra2]

For me clearly the model skill set: Doesn't say nothing to me watch an incredibly attractive/beautiful woman showing a low sex skills in a porn set (low performance level).

Is something that i used to give a lot of importance instead of their sex skills a lot of years ago.

In general, the beauty cut in porn is quite good, obviously there are girls more beautiful or with better great bodies than others girls (based in our tastes) but in general i find them quite sexy and beauty, each girl has something unique to admire (face, tits, ass, shape).

With the pass of the years, i've been i have given more importance to the level of performance and set skills of the model than their beauty and age, a minimum of beauty is neccesary but i could appreciate a good performance instead of their beauty.

Reading this forum and seeing rankings or what girls are popular i guess other people, obviously not everyone,prefer the beauty or age of the model instead of how she performs.

In fact in general a mix of both things is what it works, even the beauty/attractiviness has more power of influence in the viewers, a prove is how some girls during all these years have been super popular but their performance wasn't nothing incredible in my opinion.

[isis666xxx]

i think the base is how hot she is

but if she does boring stuff....

mmmmmmmmmmmm

but seeing for example a very fat girl doing crazy stuff with crazy skills is not hot so

whats the point of seeing a very fat girl with high skills??

i think the base is how hot she is, but the skills are extremely important, but i think the skills are secondary?

[isis666xxx]

i think the base is how hot she is

but if she does boring stuff....

mmmmmmmmmmmm

but seeing for example a very fat girl doing crazy stuff with crazy skills is not hot so

whats the point of seeing a very fat girl with high skills??

i think the base is how hot she is, but the skills are extremely important, but i think the skills are secondary?

however, what skills??

she just need to passively get fucked in the arsehole & drink piss & cum

i dont think much skills are needed??

drink piss, cum and receive penis is easy, she just need to not be a frigid

with a man he needs to have a hard on, maintain the erection, not cumming by accident, be dominating & actively fuck hard
i think thats harder

but passively take penises, cum & piss doesnt seem that hard

her skill is to be a slut and let others do that to her

[jjwhite1985]

For me it's not as simple as one or the other. To even be interested in a scene I have to find the girl attractive, but after that it's a little more complicated. I would rather watch a reasonably attractive girl who is a complete freak, can take DAP, fisting, etc, than a smoking hot chick whose performances are just vanilla. So I'd say attractiveness is more important up to a certain level of "hotness", and after that the girl's skills and performance are more important. And of course attractiveness is completely subjective, someone I find super hot may not do much for others and vice versa.

[misangrenegra2]

For me it's not as simple as one or the other. To even be interested in a scene I have to find the girl attractive, but after that it's a little more complicated. I would rather watch a reasonably attractive girl who is a complete freak, can take DAP, fisting, etc, than a smoking hot chick whose performances are just vanilla. So I'd say attractiveness is more important up to a certain level of "hotness", and after that the girl's skills and performance are more important. And of course attractiveness is completely subjective, someone I find super hot may not do much for others and vice versa.

I'm agree with you.

@anonum66666

You did a simple reduction of something more complicated.

Would you say that each pornstar is equal in skills and beauty, or that all pornstars does the same stuff and perform it in the same way like you suggested in the last post? No at all.

The beauty is not everything in porn, is very important factor of course but the skills matters more than you can think, i saw a lot of popular girls during years that they barely border on the approved performing, even with low skills performing

In general, some pornstars literally have succeed because they are very beautiful, don't get me wrong, is quite fair for me if a lot of costumers choice and pay scenes based in the beauty instead of skills, each one have their own criteria.

Simply doesn't say nothing to me watch a real goddess in a scene if she can't perform good and simply does vanilla.

There are a lot of girl not considered in the top of beauties here that perform in a incredible way and show an incredible passion having sex, this say more than other things.

[isis666xxx]

i rather watch a very hot girl doing boring sexual stuff

than a very fat girl with extremely high skills

[avanfurwet]

I think attraction is not the same as beauty. Different models appeal to different customers.

If you like a model and support their scenes, skills can be learned and improved to make more and better scenes.

But if a model doesn't really attract you, no amount of skills can change that.

[DblAnlFan686]

DAP is a skill not all enjoy or are even willing to try... those who like it, show it, and keep doing more dap scenes

Ultimately.... if you are not doing DOUBLE ANAL it does not matter how hot you are


DAP IS ALL THAT MATTERS....thus skills matter more, than being hot


Dirty Talking and doing filthy nasty stuff are also up to the performer and hv nothing to do with hotness directly...




Skills matter more than being hot, but being hot certainly has its benefits

[isis666xxx]

normal anal fucking i think doesnt take any skill??

but anal with big dildos & extreme deepthroat takes some skill like the girl below

but most videos are just normal anal boy + girl isnt it? any dumb person can get fucked in the ass and receive piss and cum

what skill? getting fucked in the ass with a normal penis and swallow sperm doesnt require skill i think

[YuriyProneBone]

Obviously hotness matters the most, if the girl is hot and she is getting fucked in the ass, it is still super hot to see her just taking it because you know she is feeling the penetration either way, you also know she knows she is getting fucked, and fucking a hot girl will always be hot regardless because she is hot, but skills can definitely help.

[misangrenegra2]

I think, anonymous, you are misunderstanding what encompasses "skills".

if i take your your argument and i use it in any different examples, surely you will see the difference:

An cinema actor/actress is someone how study an script and just spit the whole script in different scenes, what abilities are needed? if i take your argument, anyone can do that but.. would be the movie good? No.

Soccer: Is simply a game where people are kicking a ball, anyone can do that but... who would watch a match of noobs? no one.

Be a pornstar it is not so simple like be in the missionary position and waiting to be fuck, this can be done everybody but the result is not at the same quality level.

Simply be able to take and keep different positions requires a lot of training, more if we expect watch the women being fucked hard, what makes more harder hold the position.


Quality skills:

Oral skills: Eye contact, with or without hands, passive or active attitude, gagging, puke, head moves, deepthroat, saliva, how she sucks several cocks at the same time(she is focused only in one cock? she gives a good attention to all the cocks? she has their 2 hands busy with 2 more cocks?.

Anal skills: able to take one cock, 2 cocks, 3 cocks, big insertions as dildos or objects, fisting. She is able to perform prolapse, farts, gapes?, Is she able to take hard and deep anal penetrations?.

Performance and personality: Is she shy or confident? is able to perform different roles as dominant, submissive? even perform role play as a teacher, police, boss? is she involved, she has passion and a good attitude in the scene? is she communicative with the camera and the boys? she enjoys the action? she does dirty talk? reserved or direct? Is she able to perform with other girls?.

There are a lot of things more. Do you think each girl has the sames quality skills? Is for you a blowjob performed by different girls the same? The blowjobs haven't difference when are performed by different girls? the same size of gapes? prolapses?

The same with anal. All the girls can take the cocks at the same level in different positions? can take the same big cocks as other girls? each girl shows the same intensivity and level performing anal? the same attitude?.

About the performance and personality. Each girl transmit the same in front of a camera? they act similar? They have the same attitude, passion, confident having sex? Are able to perform at the same level the same role?

This is quality skills.

[YuriyProneBone]

Simply be able to take and keep different positions requires a lot of training, more if we expect watch the women being fucked hard, what makes more harder hold the position.

This is very true and something we can easily forget. To me the best lovers are those that can stay in the same position for long periods of time without complaints. Some positions are harder than others, but in my personal experience even the easiest most common positions can be difficult for some girls to endure for long periods of time, so if you find a girl that can take it, she is definitely money.

[dap-addict]

This is a very interesting discussion and OP poll.
But results so far indicate that mainly true hardcore anal fans have cast their vote rather than the large porn user majority. I say this because many polls based on girls and their skills seem to indicate that hotness is valued higher than performance skills usually.

For me entry thereshold to consider a porn girl is DAP, ie. performance skills.
It rarely happens I crave for a hot girl not DAP-ed yet, like Khali Noir for instance, but it's really an exception.
From the skilled anal performers I then choose based on hotness and onset presence, ie. eye-contact, ability to keep positions etc.

[keyboardrambo2]

I don't care about how they look , even if they considered ugly by other people the only thing that's important to me is their skills.
I just want to see how greedy , slutty , skilled and horny they are during the sex scene.

The more they can convey that passion and lust to me, I will enjoy that sequence more than anything else.

Transferring those feelings and lust to the viewer is not everyone's job, and you must have enough skill so that the viewer can feel it.

And that's why Ava Devine , Alexandra Quinn and Adrianna Nicole still in my top 10.
Some people rates them as an ugly women but I always enjoying watching their scenes , of course to me they not ugly at all.

[misangrenegra2]

I don't care about how they look , even if they considered ugly by other people the only thing that's important to me is their skills.
I just want to see how greedy , slutty , skilled and horny they are during the sex scene.

The more they can convey that passion and lust to me, I will enjoy that sequence more than anything else.

Transferring those feelings and lust to the viewer is not everyone's job, and you must have enough skill so that the viewer can feel it.

And that's why Ava Devine , Alexandra Quinn and Adrianna Nicole still in my top 10.
Some people rates them as an ugly women but I always enjoying watching their scenes , of course to me they not ugly at all.

I'm glad to read that someone else enjoyed Adrianna Nicole's scenes.

I have her too as a great pornstar, she stills in the top of my favorite girls performing oral porn, also she did great anal scenes in EA with jay sin or other directors.

You putted a great example with her, i prefer a girl like her than a top model without passion and skills.

[BeefPrime]

I don't care about how they look , even if they considered ugly by other people the only thing that's important to me is their skills.
I just want to see how greedy , slutty , skilled and horny they are during the sex scene.

The more they can convey that passion and lust to me, I will enjoy that sequence more than anything else.

Transferring those feelings and lust to the viewer is not everyone's job, and you must have enough skill so that the viewer can feel it.

And that's why Ava Devine , Alexandra Quinn and Adrianna Nicole still in my top 10.
Some people rates them as an ugly women but I always enjoying watching their scenes , of course to me they not ugly at all.

This!

[BR_Razor86]

I don't care about how they look , even if they considered ugly by other people the only thing that's important to me is their skills.
I just want to see how greedy , slutty , skilled and horny they are during the sex scene.

The more they can convey that passion and lust to me, I will enjoy that sequence more than anything else.

Transferring those feelings and lust to the viewer is not everyone's job, and you must have enough skill so that the viewer can feel it.

And that's why Ava Devine , Alexandra Quinn and Adrianna Nicole still in my top 10.
Some people rates them as an ugly women but I always enjoying watching their scenes , of course to me they not ugly at all.

Well said
Audrey Hollander was another girl considered by others as an ugly model but her scenes was fire.
Pretty face could be a plus but the most important thing about porn movies is how the girls can perform and turns on the viewers.
What's the point When she's pretty but she can't do shit or being average in sex.
We all have experienced average sex in our lifes so what's the point of watching it by another girl again?

[Dominuss]

I voted for Skill set but I won't lie. I skip scenes if I don't like the looks of the girl (I reject those full tattooed, masculine girls, for instance, doesn't matter how hot they perform)

I tolerate almost any type of body, but the more feminine/less tattoos/youngish and model body type looks (preferably pale skin) the better. Male talent performing is as important to get a good scene so if the girl does not have the best attitude, the guy should compensate.

I believe this total fixation for looks belongs to american porn. That's why they have phenomenas like Sky Bri. She's very hot but what she does bores me. I also look for technical execution and that's what LP brings to the table. If the performance is too Vanilla I probably watch the intro to enjoy her body then skip the sex.

When I speak about "skills" are the basics of anal, gaping, good throat game, drinking piss, anal creampies...but the main core is the attitude/energy levels. If she's too much of a robot then makes it hard to watch.

"Beauty + Skills" is a rare thing, kinda like "she doesn't belong to these things" and that what makes it so special. A "wasted looks" girl with great performing level is much expected. If you like to watch porn in quantity probably you don't mind the looks but if you search fresh quality you want both beauty and extreme action.

There's nothing more arousing than a young feminine model (that probably belongs to escorting or something very private/luxury standard) getting her asshole fucked very rough by a gang of black merciless studs.

First years of LP delivered constant eastern girls that fit into this phenotype but this dynamic has gone down the drain over the last years. Interesting newbies come from time to time, shame they rarely last for more than 3 scenes.

A beauty faced girl appeared a year ago (can't remember her name now) and she's missing for quite a few months now. Didn't even last a year. Not that she had the best energy but I wanted to see her evolution on BBC scenes.

[misangrenegra2]

Well said
Audrey Hollander was another girl considered by others as an ugly model but her scenes was fire.
Pretty face could be a plus but the most important thing about porn movies is how the girls can perform and turns on the viewers.
What's the point When she's pretty but she can't do shit or being average in sex.
We all have experienced average sex in our lifes so what's the point of watching it by another girl again?

There are more girls that doesn't look like a pro model that are great too: Think in Amber Rayne, Belladonna, Sandra Romain, Tory Lane or DirtyGardenGirl or more current girls like Alexa Lewis, Vivian or Heloise Dacosta. All them are average girls in looking (considered ugly) but they perform better having wild sex that most of the cutes women

[BR_Razor86]

Well said
Audrey Hollander was another girl considered by others as an ugly model but her scenes was fire.
Pretty face could be a plus but the most important thing about porn movies is how the girls can perform and turns on the viewers.
What's the point When she's pretty but she can't do shit or being average in sex.
We all have experienced average sex in our lifes so what's the point of watching it by another girl again?

There are more girls that doesn't look like a pro model that are great too: Think in Amber Rayne, Belladonna, Sandra Romain, Tory Lane or DirtyGardenGirl or more current girls like Alexa Lewis, Vivian or Heloise Dacosta. All them are average girls in looking (considered ugly) but they perform better having wild sex that most of the cutes women

Oh Yea dear belladonna . She was and still is a legend , but never heard someone call her ugly.
Lmao It is impossible for anyone to say that Tory Lane was ugly , how's that even possible?

The girl performance is above everything else for me
I don't get it when ppl are interested in look more than skills , that's so fucking lame .

[BR_Razor86]

Who's that big titty slut in your avatar?

[YuriyProneBone]

The reason why this topic is complicated is because in many ways hotness and skills can often overlap, higher sexual energy is usually correlated with skill, and in the absence of what normally people think of looks that energy can easily substitute a lack of certain type of appearance. So in other words skill can make women hotter.

It is the same the other way around. A girl with a lot of symmetry in her features that lack femininity can easily lose that candor that could make women attractive.

However it is also important to say, that more than skill itself it is related to he femininity and overall charismatic energy. What happens is that women with this magnetism tend to be very pleasing and that usually translate in them showing off above average skills to please during sex.

That said, I do feel looks matter in the sense that a women that is clearly unhealthy gives you more a sense of worry than arousal, so looks do matter the most, but only to the extend she looks healthy for sex, beyond that is about her presence and femininity what counts.

[misangrenegra2]

Who's that big titty slut in your avatar?

Oh Yea dear belladonna . She was and still is a legend , but never heard someone call her ugly.
Lmao It is impossible for anyone to say that Tory Lane was ugly , how's that even possible?

The girl performance is above everything else for me
I don't get it when ppl are interested in look more than skills , that's so fucking lame .

When i talk about beautiful, cute or ugly in this case, i'm talking about the face's looking, not about their bodies, all them have great bodies in my opinion. The posts of keyboardRambo and you i understood you were talking about faces, not bodies.

Of course that Tory Lane had (i don't know how she looks currently) and awesome and hot worked body, a real bombshell but her face is average, Belladonna has too a peculiar face, not ugly but i guess cannot like it to everybody

The girl of my avatar is Safira Yakkuza, she shooted a great scenes here in Gonzo and Gio. -> https://pornbox.com/application/model/101356

[keyboardrambo2]

I don't care about how they look , even if they considered ugly by other people the only thing that's important to me is their skills.
I just want to see how greedy , slutty , skilled and horny they are during the sex scene.

The more they can convey that passion and lust to me, I will enjoy that sequence more than anything else.

Transferring those feelings and lust to the viewer is not everyone's job, and you must have enough skill so that the viewer can feel it.

And that's why Ava Devine , Alexandra Quinn and Adrianna Nicole still in my top 10.
Some people rates them as an ugly women but I always enjoying watching their scenes , of course to me they not ugly at all.

I'm glad to read that someone else enjoyed Adrianna Nicole's scenes.

I have her too as a great pornstar, she stills in the top of my favorite girls performing oral porn, also she did great anal scenes in EA with jay sin or other directors.

You putted a great example with her, i prefer a girl like her than a top model without passion and skills.

I'm glad to see there's an another Adrianna fan
Yea her oral skills was amazing , and she was great at swallowing cum . I loved it when she say thank you after swallowing cum. A big turn on for me.
No need to say more about her anal skills, she also did some double anal scenes and it wasn't a challenge for her.

Still enjoying watching her scenes

[pornlover_holland]

For me the quality of skills is very important when I am watching an anal porn video. And off course the girls also has to look hot.

As a true porn pervert I wanna see long and hard anal poundings the entire scene. So I like to see a large groups of guys fucking a girl in the ass the entire scene and don't give her any rest.
Large cocks going deep inside the asshole. Double anal poundings. Assholes getting opened by the big cocks. And also big toys and anal fisting to open the assholes even more.
Girls must me able to handle this with their assholes for the pleasure of the fans.

[prophetman13]

i think one thing missing here is camera work as well. i would go skill set, camera work, then hotness

[xxxVIPERxxx]

As long as the girl is reasonably hot, most porn fans are much more concerned about her skillset.
What kind of extreme, depraved, rough, sex-related things can she perform. For the majority, that is what turns them on.