Who would like to see Belle Claire while pregnant?

[slut_lover]

Belle Claire has certainly occupied a lot of the forum talk recently and there seems little doubt that she is pregnant, so making the assumption that she is pregnant I figured I would take the bull by the horns and ask a question that I suspect is not only on my mind but is on some other members' minds.

I envisage that Belle could appear either in a full sex role or simply in a nude cameo role. A decision only she could make.

I really have no idea what the outcome of this poll will be. I'm really curious to see.

My personal vote is : "Me. I think a pregnant woman is a beautiful woman."

No matter how you vote I think everybody would be interested in your opinions since I suspect that for many people this is a taboo subject; but I really don't see why it should be. Pregnancy is the natural result of sex, which is what this site and this forum are about! I don't see why she should stop performing just because she is pregnant, although "used and abused" scenes would probably not be advisable.

What do you think?

Please vote.

... and of course Belle, being the shy reserved person she is, might not take up the invitation even if the majority of members were in favor.
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Oh, and Laura. I figured the only way I was going to be able to get my opinions in ahead of you was to start a topic myself!

[Iddaoeeok]

I think a pregnant woman is a beautiful woman but I've got no interest in watching a pregnant woman have sex - so how do i vote?

[Iddaoeeok]

These questions are more than somewhat loaded.

[laura.]

I will probably exercise my right to take the moral high ground and say no, I wouldn't want to see it. I agree entirely that a woman in pregnancy can be a beautiful and very natural state to be in. I also admit that the pervert in me would possibly derive some sexual pleasure of seeing this, however, I just don't feel comfortable with it as a notion. Pregnancy is ultimately a dignified and sacred experience and something very personal to a mother and some that shouldn't be shared in graphic detail outside a close unit. I also would question the possible repercussions that may present themselves 20 years down the line when a child may stumble upon his or her mother in a hardcore porn scene heavily pregant, you know tbe rest,I don't need to explain the issues that could manifest.

I may come across as being pious but for me it doesn't seem right.

At the end of the day it is the choice of a woman to make this decision but if it was me I couldn't do it.

I'd rather See Belle in 18 months time once she is settled into raising her child and is comfortable and ready to continue performing again. I have no issues with mothers doing porn whatsoever but there is a time and place but not while heavily and visibly pregnant.

Others may argue otherwise and I'm all ears, but it's a NO from me x

[Dudemeister]

Definetly not. That goes for every pregnant woman, not just for Belle. I just don't wanna see this in "my porn".

Would also be great to explain to her child in fifteen years or so. "And here you are in my belly and that guy is fucking my ass". No thanks.

[laura.]

^
You managed to say what I said a lot more succinctly and more to the point than I managed to! X

[gapefan]

I've always found pregnant women to be very beautiful and sexy!

They appeal to me on some primal level, that I can't even really explain..

So I will say, that I can understand the urge to want to see something like this.

However, I cannot in good conscience push for, or urge anyone to do such a thing, for exact reasons that laura. and Dudemeister just mentioned.

The only way this should ever happen, is if (and that's a big IF) this were something that the model decided of her own free will, that she wanted to do, without any undue influence.

I will not be participating in the poll.

[KaLeu]

As much I adore Belle and though I love every new output from her, I really don't want to see her or any other pregnant woman doing porn.
Anyways, a few days ago I saw a picture of her with a little belly and I can confirm, that she's beautiful as ever.

[shark1]

I like Belle Claire, but hell no, do not want to see her doing this while pregnant!

[DoubleOrNothing]

There's a damned child in there. Imagine you mother had done that to you. Absolutely fucking sick.

[Iddaoeeok]

There's a damned child in there. Imagine you mother had done that to you. Absolutely fucking sick.

In that case, there seems to be a lot of sick people on this forum.

[kutanoid]

Definetly not. That goes for every pregnant woman, not just for Belle. I just don't wanna see this in "my porn".

Would also be great to explain to her child in fifteen years or so. "And here you are in my belly and that guy is fucking my ass". No thanks.

True.

[magizi877]

I think Belle is gonna be a super hot sexy mom, and probably looks outstanding while pregnant, but even then I voted "no". Hell no.

[fighthardin321]

Tap 9 months pregnant. Why not? Shes fucking hot.

[twistedvincent]

Fuck no!

[pwnography.qq]

no, all i wish for her is to have a safe delivery and return back to LP for more. She's the greatest and I think she enjoys working with Giorgio that's why she pushes herself so much and it's amazing watching her expression as she struggles with triple anal lol. I bet she'd even try quad anal if Giorgio asked her to.

[KaLeu]

Tap 9 months pregnant. Why not? Shes fucking hot.

[twistedvincent]

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[KaLeu]

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I edited it. Hope you can see it now

[twistedvincent]

Cool

[gapefan]

Great GIF KaLeu!

[Iddaoeeok]

Yes, that woman is not remotely attractive

[bourbonhero368]

If she wants it herself YES, otherwise NO!

[slut_lover]

I decided to let this conversation run for a few days before commenting. At this moment the voting is

Yes:24
Don’t know:3
No:22

It would appear that most of the people who commented did so without reading what I wrote. So let me repeat, the question was.

"Who would like to invite Belle Claire to display her naked body in the late stages of pregnancy?"

It was NOT " who would like to see Belle Claire engage in sex in the late stages of pregnancy?" The question I posed was very carefully thought through to reflect what I would have liked to have seen, her naked pregnant body.

The first post was from Iddaoeeok who wrote: “ I think a pregnant woman is a beautiful woman but I've got no interest in watching a pregnant woman have sex - so how do i vote?” and then complained because he/she thought that the question was loaded. Sigh. You didn't read the question did you?! If you had read the question the answer would have been obvious. It seemed that everybody else who commented seemed to respond to that comment instead of the actual question that I asked. Sad. Very disappointing.

Furthermore I suspect that some people who commented did not understand what I meant by "or simply in a nude cameo role". (I commented, "I envisage that Belle could appear either in a full sex role or simply in a nude cameo role. A decision only she could make.") What I meant by this was that she would simply appear in a scene where other artists were the active participants and she would simply be a non-active participant but be visible for us to enjoy. But this was just my comment, it was not the question to vote on! Dudemeister’s response seemed to have missed this possibility completely instead going off into outer space and giving a knee jerk reaction to the possibility of Belle being fucked in the ass while pregnant, which I never said and was never my intention.

It’s also a pity that the voting is likely to have been skewed by this lack of attention to the question I asked.

Responding to other comments. The images of Belle Claire in extreme sex situations are already public so Belle is going to have to handle that with her unborn child at some stage in the future, although I doubt that Belle will have any problem handling that. I doubt very much that pictures of Belle heavily pregnant being available in public is likely to have any negative impact on her child in comparison to that.

Oh, and one last point, there’s nothing new in having pregnant videos available on the internet. If you go to Clips4sale and search on “pregnant” you will find 37,755 clips with the word “pregnant” in the title or key word. One porn actress I had already seen before she was pregnant was Renna Ryan. I found that she has published some really nice clips of herself at 34 and 38 weeks, one while taking a bath. Very nice. I made no secret of the fact that I would like to see Belle Claire nude at the same stage, it’s a pity that some people read more into it than I had intended.

I repeat, my question was very simple. "Who would like to invite Belle Claire to display her naked body in the late stages of pregnancy?"

This vote is open until the 3rd of March so I hope that those who have not yet voted will vote on the actual question I have asked.

[mr mystica]

Now listen; Of course a pregnant woman is beautiful. It is beautiful because it reminds us about life itself.
But to be sexually aroused by a person having another individual inside her while having sex on camera is just not ok.
Why? Do i even need to say that!? I do? Well, ok then..... The reasons why is because we are talking about a living individual who are involved in sex published on the freakin net without gettin permission from that individual!! Don`t you see how wrong that is?

[winger]

It's best if the response options are:
- Nude only
- Nude + sex
- No

[gapefan]

Now listen; Of course a pregnant woman is beautiful. It is beautiful because it reminds us about life itself.
But to be sexually aroused by a person having another individual inside her while having sex on camera is just not ok.
Why? Do i even need to say that!? I do? Well, ok then..... The reasons why is because we are talking about a living individual who are involved in sex published on the freakin net without gettin permission from that individual!! Don`t you see how wrong that is?

That's BS

People can be sexually aroused by whatever they like.

As long as what they are sexually aroused by falls within the confines of the law, they are free to indulge in watching it on film.

As far as being pregnant while performing sex scenes is concerned, it's the woman's choice. End of story.


When was the last time you heard of a woman being prosecuted by the law for being pregnant while having sex on film?

Never. That's when.


You are certainly entitled to your own personal opinion on the matter. But at the end of the day that's all it is, your opinion.


Keep in mind, I am in no way suggesting that LegalPorno pursue this particular fetish.

All I'm saying is, if they did? It would not be illegal. Hence, it being "wrong" is entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual.

[laura.]

Being brutally honest the pervert in me superseded miss morality in this scene. Belle is smoking hot in this scene and I respect her too much to focus on her private life. Let's respect her regardless of how we feel about this. Yes, I am fickle x

[DoubleOrNothing]

As long as what they are sexually aroused by falls within the confines of the law, they are free to indulge in watching it on film.

Obviously they're "free to indulge", if by "free" you mean at liberty to do so under the law. That's not a very interesting statement since it's true by definition. If you're arguing that "legal" is the same thing "moral", that sort of relativism is idiotic. By that argument, watching hardcore pornography involving kids was a-ok in 1970s Denmark, since it was legal and commercially produced. Anyone seriously want to go down that route? Yeah, it isn;t illegal for someone to cut his own hand off his hand and make a stew of it if he wants to. It's still fucking sick.

As far as being pregnant while performing sex scenes is concerned, it's the woman's choice. End of story.

At this point in time it is.

When was the last time you heard of a woman being prosecuted by the law for being pregnant while having sex on film?

Never. That's when.

[/quote]

When was the last time someone was prosecuted for owning slaves in America before the Civil War? What the hell is this supposed to prove?

All I'm saying is, if they did? It would not be illegal. Hence, it being "wrong" is entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual.

So murder, for example, is merely "factually" wrong because it happens to be illegal. And my disgust with Afghan pederasty has no objective moral basis, because it isn't illegal there. Only a sociopath can take such subjectivist moral relativism seriously outside of a college lecture hall.

[gapefan]

So you're here to preach morality on a porn forum?

Give me a break

As to the rest of your response.. I don't feel the need to repeat myself

But since you brought it up again.. anything you say here is simply an individual opinion. Nothing more.

Btw, this isn't the 1970's. Or the 1860's for that matter. It's 2016, just in case you were confused

[DoubleOrNothing]

So you're here to preach morality on a porn forum?

Give me a break All I'm saying is, if they did? It would not be illegal. Hence, it being "wrong" is entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual.

I'm here to take issue with your idiotic excuse for a philosophy of ethics.

But since you brought it up again.. anything you say here is simply an individual opinion. Nothing more.

As are your "arguments".

And this isn't the 1970's. Or the 1860's for that matter.

[/quote]

No, it isn't. But what was wrong then is wrong now, and what is wrong now was wrong then. Paedophilia woudl be one example. Slavery another. Leaving a legacy to your child of whoring yourself out in an extreme ganbang on camera with it growing in your womb is a third. S

[gapefan]

Take your straw man arguments elsewhere

The current year is 2016. Underage porn is illegal, and wrong. Slavery is illegal, and wrong.

If you're having a tough time understanding how societies laws are based upon societies morals? That's your problem, not mine.


Pregnancy in porn is completely legal.

The moral "right" or "wrong" of it is entirely opinion based.

It's up to the woman.

Her choice. Not yours.


If you think I'm so "wrong"? Then call the cops!

Or sue me!


Oh and by the way, if you're going to quote posts, at least learn how to do it properly

[DoubleOrNothing]

Take your straw man arguments elsewhere

What are you even talking about, dipshit? Sending me private messages with a wink to make me look at this, as if it were some kind of brilliant comeback? To draw logical conclusions from your premises or to take the logical structure of your argument and apply it identically to another set of facts and arrive at absurdities thereby is not a "straw man". Let's remind you of what you said, being that your memory is about as functional as your intellect:

"As long as what they are sexually aroused by falls within the confines of the law, they are free to indulge in watching it on film ... All I'm saying is, if they did? It would not be illegal. Hence, it being "wrong" is entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual."

To sumamarise, there is legal and illegal, and morality, which you want to claim is the basis for these laws, is nothign but opinion. Feelign smart now, are you dipshit?

The current year is 2016. Underage porn is illegal, and wrong. Slavery is illegal, and wrong.

I'm not talking about 2016, dipshit. By your own argument, these very things, being legal at those times, were "permissible" at those times, and the idea that they are wrong would be "entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual." Try taking fucking logic 101. So I'm meant to believe that there is nothing objectively morally wrong with slavery and paedophilia: they are only "wrong" in 2016 because they happen to be illegal in 2016, and they are illegal in 2016 because of prevailing opinions of their moral status. We have a word for people who don't believe in normative moral laws that transcend any and all personal opinions: sociopaths.

If you're having a tough time understanding how societies laws are based upon societies morals? That's your problem, not mine.

What's your point?

First you want to say that, contrary to "factual" laws, moral judgments are just opinions of individuals, while at the same time these "factual" laws are based off of "societies [sic] morals", which are nothing more than the morals of individuals.

What a fucking laugh you are. You can't even manage to coherently formulate your posiiton on moral relativism. Hint: laws being based upon "societies [sic] morals" does not make them normative, and laws only factually make an act "right" or "wrong" in a legal sense.

Pregnancy in porn is completely legal.

The moral "right" or "wrong" of it is entirely opinion based.

Yes, yes. As is theft, murder, rape, etc. Whatever.

It's up to the woman.

Her choice. Not yours.

Thanks for that, captain obvious.

[gapefan]

You've resorted to name calling now? That demonstrates some true intellect!


Societies laws are based upon societies "normative" morals and values. Are you actually claiming they aren't?

And I do believe that "normative moral laws that transcend any and all personal opinions" exist. When did I ever say they didn't?

Just because I don't happen to believe that pregnancy in porn falls under that category, does not mean I'm a sociopath. It just means my opinion on that particular matter differs from yours.


What is legal, is not always morally right. And what is illegal, is not always morally wrong. It depends on what we are talking about.

The way you talk, it's as if you believe there is one logical statement that encompasses both the legality and morality of everything that is, and ever was.

If you're so smart? Be so kind as to enlighten us all with it, Mr. Logic 101! And we'll solve all of societies problems together, right here and now!


I was by no means trying to formulate such a statement. I personally do not believe that a logical statement such as that exists.

Again, if it does? Please do share!


I was simply speaking in terms of legality and morality relative to pregnancy in porn.

You're the one dragging all this other stuff into it. Not me.

I'm not talking about 2016, dipshit. By your own argument, these very things, being legal at those times, were "permissible" at those times, and the idea that they are wrong would be "entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual." Try taking fucking logic 101. So I'm meant to believe that there is nothing objectively morally wrong with slavery and paedophilia: they are only "wrong" in 2016 because they happen to be illegal in 2016, and they are illegal in 2016 because of prevailing opinions of their moral status.

Kindly quote my post (in it's entirety) where I made the argument that because those things were "legal" at the time, they are in turn morally permissible. I literally never said that or inferred it any way whatsoever. I have been talking about pregnancy in porn this entire time. I have stated it time and time again, very clearly.

Just because I attempted to keep you on topic, by sarcastically referring to what year it is, does not mean that I was inferring those things are morally permissible due to their legality at the time.

Those are your words. Not mine.

"As long as what they are sexually aroused by falls within the confines of the law, they are free to indulge in watching it on film ... All I'm saying is, if they did? It would not be illegal. Hence, it being "wrong" is entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual."

Those are two separate arguments that I made. Yet, when you cited my post (as shown above), you cut out the middle to make it sound like they were one and the same.

• When I said: "As long as what they are aroused by falls within the confines of the law, they are free to indulge in watching it on film" I wasn't talking about the morality of people watching their fantasies on film. I was talking about the legality of them watching their fantasies on film.
  
  Legally, people are free to watch whatever kind of porn they like, as long as it falls within the limitations of law.
  
  If you disagree with that? I suggest you take it up with your local government.

• When I made my second statement: "All I'm saying is, if they did? It would not be illegal. Hence, it being "wrong" is entirely based upon your individual opinion, and is in no way factual", I wasn't making a blanket statement about the moral right and/or wrong of slavery, pedophilia, murder, rape, theft, and everything else you keep bringing up. You're the one trying to apply what I said as a blanket statement. I was talking exclusively about the legality and morality of pregnancy in porn.

You keep taking my words out of context, and trying to implicate these other things into my argument, by cutting my statements into pieces and splicing them back together, to make it sound like that's what I said.

That is the textbook definition of a straw man.

• https://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/Straw_man
  
  "A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent."

You may think pregnancy in porn is wrong. And you are certainly entitled to your opinion. But that doesn't make you morally right. And it certainly doesn't make you legally right.

In my opinion, it's not up to you or I whether or not pregancy in porn falls under the "normative moral laws that transcend any and all personal opinions". I believe it's a personal moral decision that is entirely up to each and every woman. But, perhaps you claim to know otherwise?

You know.. since you're so smart!

[laura.]

Any chance we can lock this thread now? It's creating too much antipathy and divisiveness and it's disrespectful IMHO. GF and DON, you both present pretty compelling cases and my own opinion lies somewhere between the both of you, but for the love of God please agree to disagree. X

[slut_lover]

I totally agree Laura. I didn't even bother to read their posts. I had already formed my own opinions of those two.

Laura. About your earlier post. I wrote this earlier but hadn't yet posted it

I enjoy reading your posts and could never call you a pervert. To me you come over as a really nice kind female just expressing what she feels. And I like that.
I see the real perverts in our society as the ones who try and suppress female sexuality by imposing arbitrary moralistic codes totally contrary to our animal drives.
I can assure that there is one person on this forum who will never see your posts as perverted, unless of course you tell us you’ve decide to join a convent, and that’s me.

[laura.]

^
Aww thanks, nice of you to say that. Hopefully I combine being a nice person with someone who has few limits in her porn loves. I don't know anything about DON but I am sure he is a nice lad. Gapefan is a legend on these boards and is a genuinly lovely man so my comment was not a critique of them but more out of respect for Belle, a woman who has provided me with so much pleasure this last year.

Thanks again and no I don't intend on joining a convent or nunnery, well not just yet anyhow xx

[josh852]

Wow, reading all the comments to this thread is very interesting, it’s clear this topic is incredibly divisive, which is natural I suppose given the style of the question. @slut_lover, maybe you should of changed the style of the question since I feel today some people simply don’t have the patience to fully read or grasp what you meant an or don't read through stuff properly and compile an argument in their head very quickly...

slut_lover said - "My personal vote is : "Me. I think a pregnant woman is a beautiful woman."
Ok fair enough, no problem with this statement. Me personally, regardless of how you think a pregnant woman is a beautiful woman, doesn’t make a difference to the question or poll.

Me, I have no interest in seeing Belle whilst pregnant, display her body in late stages of pregnancy, nor for that matter in an LP scene or any other porn scene for that matter as in my personal humble opinion, no matter how "beautiful" you view a women whilst pregnant, I just don’t like to see a person carrying their future child inside of them getting fucked on a screen for our pleasure, I think it’s weird and makes me feel uncomfortable... However, other people will completely disagree with this, which is fine, maybe it’s a fetish for them? Free world right

Laura said early on - "At the end of the day it is the choice of a woman to make this decision but if it was me I couldn't do it". Interesting point again, it is perfectly legal, maybe these girls want to do this? Maybe not, however I don’t fully agree with this statement since even though they have that choice, they have a responsibility to that child, and putting yourself on a camera to be fucked (whether people like it or not)… is a morally strange idea, which I said earlier I don’t agree with. A well-known US pornstar Belladonna became pregnant years back and filmed scenes whilst pregnant, there were even DVD's released of her scenes, again I don’t really like this as I feel especially when fully pregnant it’s a little bit selfish on the child’s side since he or she didn’t get a say.

Gapefan brought over some interesting views also, and it’s clear he and DoubleOrNothing don’t agree. I do feel DoubleOrNothing rote the perfect sentence for this thread however;
“Leaving a legacy to your child of whoring yourself out in an extreme gangbang on camera with it growing in your womb is a third.”
I can’t argue with this point? I fully agree. Regardless of the fact that pregnancy in porn is 100% legal, and there are tube sites for all the people who wish to view this kind of porn… it doesn’t take away the fact that, really, it’s quite wrong for the child, end of as far as I’m concerned.

[gapefan]

Any chance we can lock this thread now? It's creating too much antipathy and divisiveness and it's disrespectful IMHO. GF and DON, you both present pretty compelling cases and my own opinion lies somewhere between the both of you, but for the love of God please agree to disagree. X

Sorry Laura. I wasn't going to respond again, until josh852 decided to quote and agree with that vulgar excuse for an argument.

I refuse to stand idly by, and allow these people to cast stones, not just at Belle, but at all women who this may pertain to.

Gapefan brought over some interesting views also, and it’s clear he and DoubleOrNothing don’t agree. I do feel DoubleOrNothing rote the perfect sentence for this thread however;
“Leaving a legacy to your child of whoring yourself out in an extreme gangbang on camera with it growing in your womb is a third.”
I can’t argue with this point? I fully agree. Regardless of the fact that pregnancy in porn is 100% legal, and there are tube sites for all the people who wish to view this kind of porn… it doesn’t take away the fact that, really, it’s quite wrong for the child, end of as far as I’m concerned.

You are welcome to your opinion josh852.

Again, in my opinion, and in accordance with the law, it is entirely up to the woman to decide what is right and wrong for herself, and her child.

This starts from the child's conception, and extends on through the child's growth to legal adult age.


So, let me ask you this, in your mind:

• Is it wrong for the child, for the mother to perform in porn, before he/she is conceived?

• Is it wrong for the child, for the mother to perform in porn, after he/she is born?

• Or, is it only wrong for the child, for the mother to perform in porn, while his/her mother is carrying him/her in the womb?

My point is, why should the fact that the mother is currently carrying the child in her womb change any of this?

The woman still is, or will be, the mother of that child, regardless.

How can you morally justify one, but condemn the other?


Lastly, and most importantly, since when did it become your place to decide what is right and wrong for these women and children?


I personally choose to believe that these women all have the legal and moral right to decide for themselves, what is best for them and their children. Not some third party, like you or I.

But, you're welcome to believe whatever you like.

[josh852]

Any chance we can lock this thread now? It's creating too much antipathy and divisiveness and it's disrespectful IMHO. GF and DON, you both present pretty compelling cases and my own opinion lies somewhere between the both of you, but for the love of God please agree to disagree. X

Sorry Laura. I wasn't going to respond again, until josh852 decided to quote and agree with that vulgar excuse for an argument.

I refuse to stand idly by, and allow these people to cast stones, not just at Belle, but at all women who this may pertain to.

Gapefan brought over some interesting views also, and it’s clear he and DoubleOrNothing don’t agree. I do feel DoubleOrNothing rote the perfect sentence for this thread however;
“Leaving a legacy to your child of whoring yourself out in an extreme gangbang on camera with it growing in your womb is a third.”
I can’t argue with this point? I fully agree. Regardless of the fact that pregnancy in porn is 100% legal, and there are tube sites for all the people who wish to view this kind of porn… it doesn’t take away the fact that, really, it’s quite wrong for the child, end of as far as I’m concerned.

You are welcome to your opinion josh852.

Again, in my opinion, and in accordance with the law, it is entirely up to the woman to decide what is right and wrong for herself, and her child.

This starts from the child's conception, and extends on through the child's growth to legal adult age.


So, let me ask you this, in your mind:

• Is it wrong for the child, for the mother to perform in porn, before he/she is conceived?

• Is it wrong for the child, for the mother to perform in porn, after he/she is born?

• Or, is it only wrong for the child, for the mother to perform in porn, while his/her mother is carrying him/her in the womb?

My point is, why should the fact that the mother is currently carrying the child in her womb change any of this?

The woman still is, or will be, the mother of that child, regardless.

How can you morally justify one, but condemn the other?


Lastly, and most importantly, since when did it become your place to decide what is right and wrong for these women and children?


I personally choose to believe that these women all have the legal and moral right to decide for themselves, what is best for them and their children. Not some third party, like you or I.

But, you're welcome to believe whatever you like.

Hi gapefan. I won’t keep this going as I can see the points have been made and people have expressed their views.

I don’t want to argue either. What you've just wrote, You've raised some really interesting points and I've enjoyed reading your posts on this, this subject will be spoken about probably long after we die since it’s quite controversial to some people.

Your right, it isn’t my place to tell these women or men what they can or can't do, people should be free to express or go about their day to day lives as they see fit, I just expressed my view, which again, you either agree with or disagree with (thank god we live in a ... sort of... free world).

Like you said "I personally choose to believe that these women all have the legal and moral right to decide for themselves", exactly! You’re 100% right. The only reason I wrote on this particular subject is I read the varying views of people and wanted to add mine, and I certainly respect what you've had to say also because its correct, I just have my own opinions in regards to parts about being pregnant and showcasing in porn... but whatever, I suppose this thread can be answered now with what you've said.