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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby dap-addict » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:43 am

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101mike101 wrote:I've read some porn-star interviews, where the ladies have said that Manuel Ferrara is pretty good at making it pleasant for women during their porn-shoots. Here is an example of what they are talking about:
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mike, looks pretty detached and mechanical, actually.
Also, how often do you see girls on set putting a studs had down from her clit?
Clit rubbing by the stud is a typical porn standard imitating joy and intimacy rather than offering much really.
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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:55 am

dap-addict wrote::confused:

101mike101 wrote:I've read some porn-star interviews, where the ladies have said that Manuel Ferrara is pretty good at making it pleasant for women during their porn-shoots. Here is an example of what they are talking about:
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mike, looks pretty detached and mechanical, actually.
Also, how often do you see girls on set putting a studs had down from her clit?
Clit rubbing by the stud is a typical porn standard imitating joy and intimacy rather than offering much really.

I can say from my own experience with women, that when you masturbate a woman like this with a well-lubricated hand for some time, then eventually you will make her orgasm.

You might need to switch hands and vary your pussy-massage technique once in a while to make it more surprising and entertaining for her. But I haven't yet found a woman who won't orgasm for me, when I masturbate her like this (without the anal). And I've done this with some 'professional' women, who tried to be detached, the way you say the lady in the video is. The 'detached' lady orgasms anyway.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby PixelJail » Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:23 pm

Can this thread be renamed to "men speculating about women's lives"? Because there's a whole lot of "most women" and "many porn stars" here and not an actual thing to suggest anything other than pure imagination at work...

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby geralt_ » Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:11 am

It's called actress for a reason.

I think it's individual, but reality is that porn is putting on a show for the viewers to have sex in front of the camera for the viewers enjoyment and not their own, but ofcourse it's the best if all performers get sexual gratification from doing the scenes.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby bake0213 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:10 am

PixelJail wrote:Can this thread be renamed to "men speculating about women's lives"? Because there's a whole lot of "most women" and "many porn stars" here and not an actual thing to suggest anything other than pure imagination at work...


AMEN!

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby dap-addict » Tue Aug 04, 2020 7:21 am

Well, bake and Pixel, isn't your position just an excuse not to take girls joy at their porn acting jobs into consideration when watching their performances? It might be not important for you as end users and thats it.

On the other hand watching porn for years and always ofc comparing it with own life experience and also realistic interviews and ideally also direct porn girl contacts you get a broader picture. Still full of speculation and imagination, true, because watching you dont feel what another person feels doing it on-set really of course.

Also for sure no generalization possible.
Its not a question do they or dont they, but rather looking for examples when they obviously did enjoy their porn work. Its a job they do to earn their money to pay bills and buy consumer goods, still. But one side of the coin doenst exclude the other side. :)
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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby CloCorb » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:51 am

I find it very noble to raise this issue. And very inappropriate to use the analogy of prostitutes.

However, it is clear that it is much better to see a girl who really enjoys herself. But it should also be noted that the girls who do this are "actresses". They therefore play, like so many other roles in the cinema as well.
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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby dap-addict » Tue Aug 04, 2020 10:41 am

Btw, some civilian girls are "actresses" in bed as well, they fake orgasms to make you feel better or also to deceive themselves. On the other side there are few porn "actresses" who actually had their first real orgasm on porn set, even they were with many bf before. Its all not black and white.
And in this acting job of course not all is fun and joy, some is just really hard work and only that, but some aspects of this work can still lead to a lot of joy with the girl, even really hard stuff deemed here by some porn users in mini-reviews as needless brutality.

This one for instance is a really honest interview by a new porn actress (3mt in this job, no acting experience) which very good english skills, thus no language barrier.
dap-addict wrote:Lana Bunny Interview for LP:
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Querida Lana, ¿podrías responder estas preguntas en inglés?

Q01: Dear Lana, 3 of your videos are amongst Top 10 selling LP scenes for March, congratulations! Are you surprised?
Lana Bunny: I should thank everyone who supported the videos and hope they enjoy them as much as I did. I'm amazed with the awesome feedback given!


Q02: All of them are DAP. How do you like this sex act?
Lana Bunny: When you're doing a DAP, feels like everyone involved in the act is on the same wave, it's exciting and fun.


Q03: Can you describe how does it feel to get DAP-ed on a porn set?
Lana Bunny: I remember my first DAP... I was in doggy when Angelo Godshack started caressing my head and said something like "face down, we're getting two cocks in your ass now". Michel Fly and Thomas Lee came closer and slided their dicks inside me, i could feel both of them stretching me from the inside, i was in ecstasy...

I knew in that moment that my ass was made for it and i just didn't try before.

(...)

Q09: Can you tell us a bit more about porn shootings: For instance do you get real orgasms on porn sets?

Q10: Is working on a porn set funny sometimes?

Q11: Are there boring moments?

Q12: Any bad experience on set you had?

Lana Bunny @ Q09, 10, 11 and 12: I get so many orgasms in front of the camera, joke and laugh with everyone in the set, slide with the amount of pee on the floor and hit everything since i'm clumsy as fuck.. I have a lot of fun while working! (...)


Now director in Prague of course did just book her upon her 1on1 test scene results, scouts reference and her readiness to try what he wanted to shoot. For him she just had to act it all convincingly so that the scenes would sell better. Only later they realized how much of natural anal talent this girl really enjoying herself on porn set is - and how much potential she bears.
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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:27 am

PixelJail wrote:Can this thread be renamed to "men speculating about women's lives"? Because there's a whole lot of "most women" and "many porn stars" here and not an actual thing to suggest anything other than pure imagination at work...


I think you are misrepresenting what people say here. Nobody is talking about lives here. This discussion is about porn-sex and whether it's enjoyable for women or not.

How to make sex enjoyable for women is an important topic for men. Because it's usually men who initiate sex and are the dominant partner in their sexual encounter. Most of the sex action is performed by men. And this means that whether a woman enjoys her sex or not depends a lot on how her man does it with her.

Men often assume that it's up to the woman to enjoy sex or not, and it has nothing to do with them. But this is a ridiculous assumption to make, when you think about it. Because this is like saying that it's up to you to enjoy or not, when a lady gives you a hand-job, no matter how she does it.

The lady can be rough with you and make it painful for you. Or she can do it so gently and lightly, that you don't feel much. Or she can do it just the right way to get you off. So, your enjoyment or lack of it depends on how the lady does it. And you don't need much imagination to realize that it works the same way for ladies, when the guy is their active partner and does something with them.

This isn't speculation. This is logic and common sense. And this is an important topic to talk about. Because enjoyment motivates people to do more of it. While lack of enjoyment or even pain and discomfort motivates people to do less of it, or even get away from it and stay away.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:35 am

CloCorb wrote:I find it very noble to raise this issue. And very inappropriate to use the analogy of prostitutes....

It's not an analogy. It's a fact of life in porn that many porn-stars, especially in Prague and other European countries also work as so-called 'prostitutes'.

The word 'prostitute' was coined by people who are against such women. So, this isn't the word such women use to describe themselves. They prefer to call themselves sex-workers, rather than prostitutes.

The word 'prostitute' has a negative meaning. Which makes it somewhat of an insult, not just for porn-stars, but for all sex-workers.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:24 pm

dap-addict wrote::confused:

101mike101 wrote:I've read some porn-star interviews, where the ladies have said that Manuel Ferrara is pretty good at making it pleasant for women during their porn-shoots. Here is an example of what they are talking about:
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Also, how often do you see girls on set putting a studs had down from her clit?
Clit rubbing by the stud is a typical porn standard imitating joy and intimacy rather than offering much really.


I agree with you that not many women trust men to rub their pussies and clits just the right way to make it enjoyable for them. Rubbing a lady's pussy just the right way is an art that few men have mastered.

Because you can do it too roughly and apply too much pressure. Which makes it uncomfortable or even painful for the lady. Or you can do it without lube. Which creates too much friction for the lady and makes it painful and uncomfortable for her. Or you can do it too gently and too lightly, so that the lady doesn't feel much. Or you can do it just the right way to make it pleasant for the lady and get her off.

There are a lot more wrong ways of doing it, than right ways. That's why it won't work well if you treat it as just mechanical action and don't pay any attention to the feedback you get from the lady.

Manuel Ferrara in the picture above makes it look easy, because he has done this many times, and he is somewhat of an expert at doing it. But this is actually an art-form that you need to learn from practice and experience, before you can do it well. You don't become an expert overnight at anything, including this.

But I think the way Manuel Ferrara masturbates the pussies of his ladies with his hand should be done more in porn. It should be a part of almost every scene, the way cunnilingus used to be in many early porn-films. Because the way he masturbates the pussies of his ladies with his hand is like cunnilingus on steroids for these ladies. It looks a lot more dramatic, interesting, and active than cunnilingus does on the girl. You can hardly see anything at all, when a guy licks the girl. But when he does her pussy with his hand, then her pussy ends up moving, spreading, and stretching all over the place, as he picks up his pace.

Early porn-films used to show a lot of cunnilingus for the ladies as a kind of foreplay. But you can hardly see anything at all, when a guy licks the girl. And that's why cunnilingus in porn films has fallen out of fashion. It's not active enough and not dramatic enough to make it interesting in porn. But the way Manuel Ferrara masturbates his ladies with his hand is active, dramatic, and interesting to watch. This is like cunnilingus on steroids for the lady. And this is the way guys should foreplay their ladies in porn-films.

Cunnilingus doesn't look that good in porn. But if you just remove cunnilingus, without any substitute, then it looks like there is something missing in porn-sex. You need something that serves the same function but looks a lot more interesting and dramatic in porn. And the way Manuel Ferrara masturbates the pussies of his ladies is an ideal substitute for cunnilingus in porn.

Because the guy can do it a lot faster and better with his hand, than he can ever do it with his mouth and tongue. And with his hand, he can give the camera a much better view of it too, than he can during normal cunnilingus with his head in the way.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby PixelJail » Tue Aug 04, 2020 6:51 pm

101mike101 wrote:
PixelJail wrote:Can this thread be renamed to "men speculating about women's lives"? Because there's a whole lot of "most women" and "many porn stars" here and not an actual thing to suggest anything other than pure imagination at work...


I think you are misrepresenting what people say here. Nobody is talking about lives here. This discussion is about porn-sex and whether it's enjoyable for women or not.
This isn't speculation. This is logic and common sense. And this is an important topic to talk about. Because enjoyment motivates people to do more of it. While lack of enjoyment or even pain and discomfort motivates people to do less of it, or even get away from it and stay away.


Sorry, should I have said "sex lives"? This thread is definitely just men speculating about whether porn stars are cumming or not, it's entirely speculation, because other than that one quote from an interview, there are no porn stars here commenting on the issue.

I agree, it's important for men to think about sex and erogenous enjoying themselves, but that's definitely not what you're discussion is... This discussion is ppl taking turns to speculate on whether or not porn stars are falling it just because they're paid, or actually enjoying themselves.

Where are things like "most porn stars" coming from? It's mansplaing.

The only honest answer to this whole thread is :

Some do. Some don't.

A bit broad, but asking whether ANYONE enjoys sex is missing the point. It's up to the individual it's too personal. If you want to understand how to make a person enjoy themselves you need to ask them alone.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:39 pm

PixelJail wrote:
101mike101 wrote:
PixelJail wrote:Can this thread be renamed to "men speculating about women's lives"? Because there's a whole lot of "most women" and "many porn stars" here and not an actual thing to suggest anything other than pure imagination at work...


I think you are misrepresenting what people say here. Nobody is talking about lives here. This discussion is about porn-sex and whether it's enjoyable for women or not.
This isn't speculation. This is logic and common sense. And this is an important topic to talk about. Because enjoyment motivates people to do more of it. While lack of enjoyment or even pain and discomfort motivates people to do less of it, or even get away from it and stay away.


Sorry, should I have said "sex lives"? This thread is definitely just men speculating about whether porn stars are cumming or not, it's entirely speculation, because other than that one quote from an interview, there are no porn stars here commenting on the issue.

I agree, it's important for men to think about sex and erogenous enjoying themselves, but that's definitely not what you're discussion is... This discussion is ppl taking turns to speculate on whether or not porn stars are falling it just because they're paid, or actually enjoying themselves.

Where are things like "most porn stars" coming from? It's mansplaing.

The only honest answer to this whole thread is :

Some do. Some don't.

A bit broad, but asking whether ANYONE enjoys sex is missing the point. It's up to the individual it's too personal. If you want to understand how to make a person enjoy themselves you need to ask them alone.

Orgasm is only a small part of sexual pleasure. And it's something people usually want to delay, when they want their sexual pleasure to last. So, you are misunderstanding and misrepresenting again what this discussion is about.

Porn-sex needs to last for a good 40 minutes or so. Because that's how long typical porn-scenes are. And if actors and actresses satisfy each other with orgasms long before the scene ends, then they won't be in the mood to continue the scene. And their lack of pleasure and motivation would make the scene look bad. So, in porn-sex, the main problem is how to delay orgasm and how make sexual pleasure last longer than it usually lasts in non-porn sex.

Sex is all about pleasure. Pleasure the reason why people have sex for non-reproductive purposes, and pleasure is the reason why people watch porn. So, it's ridiculous to suggest that pleasure isn't a legitimate topic talk about in porn-sex. If there is no pleasure in porn-sex, then porn has no reason, no purpose, and it's a meaningless waste of money and effort.

So, this discussion shouldn't be just about whether porn actresses are enjoying porn sex or not. It should also be about how to make porn sex more enjoyable for porn actresses, so that they don't need to act and pretend but just show the real pleasure they actually feel.

If you can make porn-actresses feel real pleasure, so that they don't need to act and pretend but just be themselves, then this is the ideal in porn. Because any kind of acting and pretending is usually a turn-off for porn-fans. They want the real thing.

And there are well-known techniques for creating sexual pleasure for both men and women. So, this has nothing to do with speculation, as you claim it is. It's just a matter of doing the kinds of things are known to produce pleasure, and you can already find such sex-acts in porn.

How to produce sexual pleasure isn't a secret or a mystery that you need to speculate about. It's based on facts and experience. And it's just a matter of doing such things in porn, provided that they also look active and dramatic enough to show on film.

That's why I say that porn needs a substitute for cunnilingus. Cunnilingus doesn't look active and dramatic enough to show on film. But a guy rubbing his lady's pussy in the right way does look active and dramatic, as shown below:

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby Iddaoeeok » Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:55 pm

101mike101 wrote:If you can make porn-actresses feel real pleasure, so that they don't need to act and pretend but just be themselves, then this is the ideal in porn. Because any kind of acting and pretending is usually a turn-off for porn-fans. They want the real thing.


Porn fans want 'the real thing' so much that they are incredibly easy to fool - just read some of the comments on this forum on model threads, horny guys will believe anything if it means they can get off - "She really loves being pissed on/ DAPed/ manhandled you can tell". In any case, for a lot of porn users, the insistence on reality trumps any concern whether the actresses are experiencing pleasure because their pleasure is what really matters and, if you get off so much on 'real feelings', then the feeling on display doesn't have to be pleasure - as the thread below demonstrates:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=20603

Personally, I'm less hung up on reality.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:33 pm

Iddaoeeok wrote:
101mike101 wrote:If you can make porn-actresses feel real pleasure, so that they don't need to act and pretend but just be themselves, then this is the ideal in porn. Because any kind of acting and pretending is usually a turn-off for porn-fans. They want the real thing.


Porn fans want 'the real thing' so much that they are incredibly easy to fool - just read some of the comments on this forum on model threads, horny guys will believe anything if it means they can get off - "She really loves being pissed on/ DAPed/ manhandled you can tell". In any case, for a lot of porn users, the insistence on reality trumps any concern whether the actresses are experiencing pleasure because their pleasure is what really matters and, if you get off so much on 'real feelings', then the feeling on display doesn't have to be pleasure - as the thread below demonstrates:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=20603

Personally, I'm less hung up on reality.

It's true that more or less everybody is prone to have a so-called 'Confirmation Bias'.

People look for evidence to confirm their desires and beliefs. And once they find such evidence, then they feel that their desires and beliefs are the reality, and they stop looking any further. Their desires and beliefs become facts, as far as they are concerned. And that's why they don't feel any need to look any further.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

But this natural tendency for people to have Confirmation Bias doesn't mean that you can show people anything you want, and they will believe it. People will believe it only if you show them what they are looking for.

So, if you want porn-fans to believe that the woman is having pleasure, then you need to show them the kind of sex-act that is clearly aimed at pleasing the woman. And the woman needs to respond in some non-verbal way that looks like pleasure. Both the sex act and her response need to be consistent with female pleasure. Or else the audience won't believe it. And of course, it helps if the sex act actually pleases the woman, so that her pleasure response is natural, rather than pretended and acted. Because women in porn aren't trained actresses. Which makes their acting and pretending unconvincing and hard to believe.

So, it's true that in reality porn-sex might not be as pleasurable for women as it looks for viewers on screen. But it needs to be consistent with pleasure, and the woman needs to have at least some pleasure from the act aimed at pleasing her. Or else this Confirmation Bias won't work, and viewers won't believe that the woman in the porn-scene feels any pleasure.

The best and the most convincing liars tell mostly the truth. They just leave out some crucial detail and make you deceive yourself. And that's how it works in porn too.

A porn scene showing the woman's enjoyment isn't the whole truth. But such a scene needs to have enough truth in it to make it believable. And preferably such a scene needs to be almost all true. Because this is what makes it more believable and more enjoyable for porn-fans.

The art of lying is telling mostly the truth. And that's why you need to make the women's pleasure in porn as real as it can be.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:49 pm

Well, bottom line is, porn girls have to act convincingly of the users of their scenes.
And since RL sexual experience, especially in porn scene depicted acts like anal/DAP/piss, is limited or on very different levels, according to this level they judge "credibility".

This however doenst say much about whether they enjoy their performing their porn sex acts on set, nor which parts of it they enjoy. For this you have to talk with them about it. Or alternatively feel it when watching, which really works only after many years of critical porn watching and with a distanced approach instead of idealizing, plus also a basic understanding of the porn production process.
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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Wed Aug 05, 2020 3:11 pm

dap-addict wrote:Well, bottom line is, porn girls have to act convincingly of the users of their scenes....

My point is that the real thing is better than acting and pretending. Because the real thing is more believable, and it's something porn-fans want.

Real penetration is hotter than a pretend penetration. And it works the same way for pleasure. So, if there is something you can do to make it more real, then this is the ideal to strive for in porn.

But there is another detail in porn-sex that needs to be mentioned here. There is some difference in the kind of sex men and women find pleasurable. Porn won't be so hot for men to watch, if you focus only on women's pleasure and don't have the kind of sex-acts that men enjoy more. That's why porn-sex needs to be a kind of compromise, where sex-acts please both women and guys.

When a guy takes a hot woman's ass with his cock, then this makes it easy for porn-fans to believe that he is really enjoying himself inside the woman's ass. But her pleasure in this case is in doubt. Because guys usually want anal more than women. So, to make it believable that the woman is having pleasure too, you need to show the guy reach for the lady's pussy and clit with his hand and masturbate her, while he nails her nice ass. You need both of these sex-acts to make both the guy's and the woman's pleasure believable. Or else it looks like one-sided pleasure.

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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby dap-addict » Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:10 pm

101mike101 wrote:My point is that the real thing is better than acting and pretending. Because the real thing is more believable, and it's something porn-fans want.

Of course!
This is why I always stress that ideal is a porn girl able to really enjoy herself at the job she does!
Not always of course, but at some points she might actually even long for being paired working with certain stud(s) or performing certain porn sex acts, role-play etc.

101mike101 wrote:When a guy takes a hot woman's ass with his cock, then this makes it easy for porn-fans to believe that he is really enjoying himself inside the woman's ass. But her pleasure in this case is in doubt. Because guys usually want anal more than women. So, to make it believable that the woman is having pleasure too, you need to show the guy reach for the lady's pussy and clit with his hand and masturbate her, while he nails her nice ass.

Now here I would difference more.
First in many cases you sadly have studs looking bored while fucking or completely detached.
Second girls can rub themselves much better than guys usually, even than Ferrara using lots of oil.
Third anal pleasure is ideally pure, ie. without clit rubbing.
Forth I think it really depends what kind of user you wanna attract with your scene. Iddaoeeok already gave the feeling-uncomfortable-example. Users usually want the "real thing" but producing it for them may include a very wide array of feelings and manipulation, which may not even influence the porn girls real joy during the filming. Example would be borderline feelings between lust and pain.

Maybe to make it more clear: It seems you really like studs-do-the pussy rubbing anal scenes because they transport fun for both girl and stud. For me one of the most crucial points are first takes during DAP, ie. a usually difficult and often painful step for the girl. I want those crucial few seconds presented with a clear girls reaction, leaning towards awakening DAPlust. Its something very difficult to fake because the sex act is very demanding and difficult. Here still I do want girls reaction and be it only acted and not felt at all. The best acting still does include real feelings and real lust. Its extremely rare, but it happens plus it can be influenced by girls' mind set, mental control etc. I am with the girl here entirely and always glad I am not the stud having to dap her because I'd never wanna do this because I'd rub against another boys dick. Its pure porn fantasy for me - and, yes, more and more also a pro approach of making it look most convincing for those users able to concentrate on the girl more than probably needing to ID with the studs fucking them.
I write this also to show that different users have completely different needs and demands, but the girls still have to perform it/act it out and yes, of course, the more joy she feels doing it the better it is!
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Re: Are porn actresses enjoying porn sex ?

Postby 101mike101 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:46 am

dap-addict wrote:....
Second girls can rub themselves much better than guys usually, even than Ferrara using lots of oil.
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This is like saying that a woman can please herself with a dildo much better, than a guy can please her with his cock. Because she can read her own mind and do it just the right way with her dildo. While the guy can only imagine and guess what she needs and wants. There is no way he can do it just the right way every time.

I think you are missing the point of why people want to have sex with others, rather than just stay at home and masturbate alone.

When a woman takes your cock with her hand and masturbates you, then this is an entirely different feeling from when you masturbate yourself. Because she expresses her thinking, her feeling, and her personality in the way she masturbates you.

It's like you find out what kind of a woman she is from the way she handles your cock. And no two women will do it exactly the same way. One woman might bare her tits and masturbate you so hard and fast, that there is no way you can last. While another chick might grab your dick, without taking off her shirt. So, it will be up to you to discover and reveal her tits, while she fumbles and fools around with your cock. She makes it last and doesn't do you hard and fast. And a third woman, who has some experience in the kitchen, might put your cock between the palms of her hands and roll it back and forth like a sausage.

In each case, it's interesting and exciting for you to see and to feel how the woman handles your cock and tries to please you. But there is nothing interesting or exciting like this, when you masturbate yourself. Because you already know yourself, and everything you do with yourself is entirely predictable. Masturbating yourself is like talking to yourself. It's a lot less interesting and less exciting than talking with another person, whom you are getting to know.

Comparing self-masturbation with getting masturbated by another person is like comparing apples and oranges. Because they don't even belong to the same category. The first is a solitary activity. While the second is having sex with another person.

And I think a woman masturbating herself, while looking at the floor or at the wall, can appear as if she is ignoring the guy and isn't paying much attention to him. Which is like being in company of someone, who picks her phone and starts looking through her text-messages, while you are talking to her. It shows indifference and even a kind of rejection. A woman might do this kind of thing, when she wants to get rid of you.

I suppose, it's possible to make the woman's masturbation look good, even when she is with a guy. This when she focuses her attention on the guy and masturbates herself to get her lust going for him.

It's like a peeping step-mom comes at the masturbating young man, while masturbating her own pussy, so that she can mount his big cock right away, without any delay. She gets her lust going for him and prepares herself for him, rather than just enjoying herself in her own solitary activity. So, masturbation can be a part of interaction with another person. Which gives it an entirely different meaning from that of shifting your attention from the other person to yourself. The first helps the interaction and is a part of it. While the second is a kind of indifference and even rejection of the other person. Which is a turn-off in porn.

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Postby dap-addict » Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:44 pm

Ok, in RL sex you are perfectly right.
On porn set still most girls dont connect emotionally to the studs like they do in private to the boys they have sex with. But indeed, there is a connection still and indeed many girls allow the studs to touch their pussy while they fuck their ass. Others just dont do. We can find both examples easily in Dotzends of LP films. It shows always something additional about the girls, and not only their anal-friendlyness ofc.

Anyway, I think in the setting of porn being a payed job for most girls first of all, it is a decision of mood. More of them prefer to please their unfucked pussy themselves with her hand, then let the studs do it. For me as a user its esthetically more rewarding that way, because girls hands are sexy, studs hands not at all. But emotionally other users may prefer other options.
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Postby powerful76 » Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:55 pm

i always read bafdthings about pierre woodman, but watching some trailers from wmnf site, it look that the girls are really enjoying the sex...
it looks more amateur, more real to...
you guys think its all fake there?
i would like to see legalporno producing some scenes with that more natural lighting and in more "real" homemade scenarios, but keeping the hardcore aspect.

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Postby Hotflash » Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:30 am

i think that beeing fucked in a crap hotel room by an uggly hairy old guy is not enjoyable :D

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Postby grey00owl » Sat Aug 08, 2020 1:46 pm

powerful76 wrote:i always read bafdthings about pierre woodman, but watching some trailers from wmnf site, it look that the girls are really enjoying the sex...
it looks more amateur, more real to...
you guys think its all fake there?
i would like to see legalporno producing some scenes with that more natural lighting and in more "real" homemade scenarios, but keeping the hardcore aspect.

Well, Glab Piter productions actually have that"real", amateur, homemade mood.
As far as Woodman's productions I disagree with the majority here: I find them often hot and exciting, especially some scenes of the series WakeUp'nFuck.

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Postby dap-addict » Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:07 pm

Simply can't judge Woodman after about 2000. But generally I would say fame could work with many girls and help to enjoy part of it for sure.

Now GLab scenes are shot almost 1:1 same as many gonzo and GIO scenes and that is crucial. Its gonzo porn which makes it much easier for the girls to enjoy that porn job as opposed to position-break-re-catch-break-break-re-catch-re-catch again etc. chopped porn sex shootings. Some of this also happens in gonzo porn nowadays, but usually not with LP studios.
Its not the homemade feel as such, but the shooting in just a few takes. Shooting should be professional ofc, but GLab is professional shooting. Problem there is still with lighting, color balance only, not for the girls on set actually.
Lest they have to replace an experienced stud suddenly with an unexperienced like Juri for Mia Sanders, but that doesnt happen usually.
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Postby WilliamPiercy » Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:26 pm

Hotflash wrote:i think that beeing fucked in a crap hotel room by an uggly hairy old guy is not enjoyable :D

Hahah, I think so

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Postby 504036255 » Sat Dec 26, 2020 4:46 pm

interesting!

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Postby Starrio » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:19 pm

It's fair to say they do. It is my opinion that they may even become addicted because it isn't safe to get gangbanged in real life, but in porn it is controlled so they can do it at ease, and still feel like a queen.

Particularly if she is already established and has no much to lose. If she is at the stage that her career is at risk, it would be harder for her to enjoy it because she would be worrying about those things.

It is fair to say their careers are always at risk, but those risk vary, so as long as the risk is not too intense I can see them enjoying themselves.

On top of that it is unrealistic to assume a girl would enjoy an entire scene. Most likely they will enjoy bits and pieces here and there, and hate others.

Like she may be getting some nice cock penetration, and all of the sudden the dude pulls it out to show a gape, then of course she is going to hate that, at best they can get used to it, but considering even us, the audience, hate it, they probably dislike it even more.

In other instances it may be just a break and that can be good, but that's different than enjoying.

Then also there are the situations where they are in painful positions and they are just trying to hold on. Like when they are getting deep anal prone bone, they may get worried some internal organs are getting damaged, even if nothing out of the ordinary is actually happening.

However I do believe pain can be pleasurable with the right mindset for them, all they have to do is set their minds to enjoy it, and they could enjoy more things than they normally would.

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Postby mikeopen » Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:41 pm

fredflehoux wrote:Porn is 99% men's Fantasies, so i doubt many girls are actually into it. There are a bunch of slut that it's clear thet love it like Anna Deville, Barbie Sins, etc. Most do it for the money and probably never have orgasm on set.

Most women need the mental connection to be turned on at all, something that is hard to get with a filming crew on a porn set


yeah Anna for sure loves it, you can feel it in her scenes, the recent barbie sins stuff i'm not so sure though
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Postby dap-addict » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:47 pm

stratogustav wrote:it is unrealistic to assume a girl would enjoy an entire scene. Most likely they will enjoy bits and pieces here and there, and hate others.
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However I do believe pain can be pleasurable with the right mindset for them, all they have to do is set their minds to enjoy it, and they could enjoy more things than they normally would.

Thanks for mentioning mind and emotions also!
Its a crucial point we hadnt discussed much so far.
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Postby valentin0_xXx » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:49 am

i think they are better actresses than hollywood milliondollar divas

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Postby lovepetons » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:54 am

I wish , but I kinda guess they're acting

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Postby Jocke » Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:12 pm

Many porn actresses do enjoy sex. Holly Randall's interviews confirms this. Obviously at times it just work, but work can be enjoyable too and many women do want to deliver great scenes.
Rebel Rhyder I believe, is a true nymphomanic and Anna too.
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