Colour balance in Giorgio scenes.

[Tangini]

I posted this comment in the general forum, as it's something I've been thinking about the quality in general.

I need to be careful how I say it, as I 100% mean it constructively, and mean no offence.
But I was thinking about the scenes, and trying to figure out why some older scenes seem somehow different.
More hypnotic somehow.

It's not the content as such. That is still great. Especially Giorgio stuff.

Is Giorgio slightly colourblind though?

Again, I'm not trying to be rude, but his scenes seem to have a slight red/pink colour cast.
I tried tweaking the colour curves in VLC and it's so much better, with the colour temperature turned down.

Can anyone else who is a bit more tech savvy post some before and after shots?

I really feel like better colour balance could make a huge difference.

Sorry if this seems rude, it's not meant that way.
I hope it's something you can look at.

[Tip-Drill]

I posted this comment in the general forum, as it's something I've been thinking about the quality in general.

I need to be careful how I say it, as I 100% mean it constructively, and mean no offence.
But I was thinking about the scenes, and trying to figure out why some older scenes seem somehow different.
More hypnotic somehow.

It's not the content as such. That is still great. Especially Giorgio stuff.

Is Giorgio slightly colourblind though?

Again, I'm not trying to be rude, but his scenes seem to have a slight red/pink colour cast.
I tried tweaking the colour curves in VLC and it's so much better, with the colour temperature turned down.

Can anyone else who is a bit more tech savvy post some before and after shots?

I really feel like better colour balance could make a huge difference.

Sorry if this seems rude, it's not meant that way.
I hope it's something you can look at.

Upgrade your TV, problem solved

[IndyPleco]

Do you have any scene examples?

[Giorgio Grandi]

The scene you can download from pornbox has "neutral colors", means you can tune the colors tweaking the color curves in your player.

Otherwise, setting an higher grade of saturation in the file you download wont allow people to tune a different color grade.

It is intentional, I try to make everyone happy as everyone can chose his own color grade.

[Tangini]

Thank you for the reply Giorgio. I'll post here as people thought I was insulting you in the other forum.

An example for me was in the Lindsay Logan sineplex scene. In the blue dress. I can't remember the exact one. But I noticed how crisp and vivid it appeared.

I then saw a Belle Clare scene, from Giorgio. It appeared muted and flat.

But when I turned down the red, and slightly enhanced the blue, it felt like a different scene.

That's why I feel the colour grading is just slightly off.

I don't have access to a computer anytime soon unfortunately.

So I can't post any comparison.

This is just an observation, and if it's an intentional choice, that is of course, your perogative.

Thanks again for all the hard work Giorgio.

Ps. My other mission on LP, is to get some more milking scenes.

So I may as well ask here as well. Lol

[avanfurwet]

Again, different people perceive colour differently. No reason to imagine your personal perception is "right", or "wrong". Just different.

[Tangini]

Again, different people perceive colour differently. No reason to imagine your personal perception is "right", or "wrong". Just different.

Incorrect.

White balance is a science. It's a technical setting. That's why colour temperature is measured in Kelvin. (K) it's not something open to interpretation.
It's absolute.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this. Just making a technical observation.

If I had my laptop, I could be more technical. But I only have my phone.

[Giorgio Grandi]

there is no relation between white balance and saturation/colors

[avanfurwet]

Again, different people perceive colour differently. No reason to imagine your personal perception is "right", or "wrong". Just different.

Incorrect.

White balance is a science. It's a technical setting. That's why colour temperature is measured in Kelvin. (K) it's not something open to interpretation.
It's absolute.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this. Just making a technical observation.

If I had my laptop, I could be more technical. But I only have my phone.

You're not making any technical observation.
You're just announcing your personal subjective opinion as a settled fact, without any evidence, suggesting the director is colour blind, and asking for it to be "looked at".
You've ignored other posters who have tried to help you by pointing out how you can calibrate your screens.
You've ignored the director who had the courtesy to respond and explain what he does and why.
You're not helping your own case.

[Tangini]

Thanks again for the reply. I won't argue. As I live your content and work ethic anyway. And also, I want to keep you sweet, as I'm now thinking about playing the husband, in the other thread you posted.... Lol

I'll leave this here.

It helped me understand when I learnt photography.
Maybe someone else out there, will get something from it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bhphot ... tal-images

[Tangini]

Again, different people perceive colour differently. No reason to imagine your personal perception is "right", or "wrong". Just different.

Incorrect.

White balance is a science. It's a technical setting. That's why colour temperature is measured in Kelvin. (K) it's not something open to interpretation.
It's absolute.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this. Just making a technical observation.

If I had my laptop, I could be more technical. But I only have my phone.

You're not making any technical observation.
You're just announcing your personal subjective opinion as a settled fact, without any evidence, suggesting the director is colour blind, and asking for it to be "looked at".
You've ignored other posters who have tried to help you by pointing out how you can calibrate your screens.
You've ignored the director who had the courtesy to respond and explain what he does and why.
You're not helping your own case.

I don't have a case. I'm not attached to any idea or viewpoint.

I presented an input.
Ignore or respond.

My TV is well calibrated.
But that adjustment can only be made with VLC, when linked to a laptop.

Although I only watch on my phone now. With no adjustments possible. Hence raising the issue.

I see a red/orange, warm colour cast. Maybe from tungsten lights and a slightly skewed grey set point.

I'm 100% sure Giorgio knows his camera inside out. Hence my assumption that as he is competent, maybe there is another reason.

If no one else sees or is concerned, so be it.
It's a first world problem, and it doesn't keep me awake. Just something I notice.

No offence intended and I'm grateful for the content.

Thanks for your input.

[Sir Noel]

One of the good things in Giorgio's scenes is how neutral they are. He almost always avoids a colour cast.

Here is an example from a recent video. First looking at the whites. The sampling area

Now look at the RGB levels for that area. What you want to see are all levels equal for a surface you expect to be pure white:

Now look at skin tones. Here is the sampling area:

And now to isolate that area. What you want to see is the skin hue running along the line on the polar chart (that line is literally there as a skin tone line). If it runs off the chart the skin will look unnaturally red or yellow.

In both cases these are very accurate which means the scene is either shot corrected for any colour cast or Giorgio corrected for it afterwards.

[Giorgio Grandi]

You're not making any technical observation.
You're just announcing your personal subjective opinion as a settled fact, without any evidence, suggesting the director is colour blind, and asking for it to be "looked at".
You've ignored other posters who have tried to help you by pointing out how you can calibrate your screens.
You've ignored the director who had the courtesy to respond and explain what he does and why.
You're not helping your own case.

I don't have a case. I'm not attached to any idea or viewpoint.

I presented an input.
Ignore or respond.

My TV is well calibrated.
But that adjustment can only be made with VLC, when linked to a laptop.

Although I only watch on my phone now. With no adjustments possible. Hence raising the issue.

I see a red/orange, warm colour cast. Maybe from tungsten lights and a slightly skewed grey set point.

I'm 100% sure Giorgio knows his camera inside out. Hence my assumption that as he is competent, maybe there is another reason.

If no one else sees or is concerned, so be it.
It's a first world problem, and it doesn't keep me awake. Just something I notice.

No offence intended and I'm grateful for the content.

Thanks for your input.[/quote]

The way the phone read the data regarding the color is probably different than on a computer/player.
I mean, if a video looks "cold colors" on computer and than looks "warm" on phone, Im pretty sure the way the phone read the color is not correct.

Would be nice to know at least what movies you are talking about, there are few movies where colors are warmer.