Alarming low Dec sales?

[dap-addict]

Really surprised GIO has only 1 scene amongst the 10 TOP selling scenes in December so far!
Its an unusual score.
Now its clear due to many factors like Giorgio and Tarras well earned holidays, Luis finally working much harder for gonzo, the GIO dildo line market intro, Eroticky Veltreh etc.
Still. GIO fans, please support the studio a bit more!

[pastaga]

I don't think Gio's sales are alarming low. It's more like Gonzo ones have been particularly good. Lots of Monster cocks, some very successful models, XMas orgy and of course Timea's comeback. While it's been pretty classical on Giorgio's side, except maybe Anna's wet scene.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Maybe it just starts to be enough to write "Monster smt" in the title for get more sales

[JohnnyMcSpunkencock]

I agree that Gonzo has had a particularly good month so I guess December sales are actually pretty damn good as far as months go. xxx would know for sure of course

[drevokocur66]

Really surprised GIO has only 1 scene amongst the 10 TOP selling scenes in December so far!
Its an unusual score.
Now its clear due to many factors like Giorgio and Tarras well earned holidays, Luis finally working much harder for gonzo, the GIO dildo line market intro, Eroticky Veltreh etc.
Still. GIO fans, please support the studio a bit more!

I did GIO877 was an instant buy.

[ayrtight]

I gave my tix for the Avi Love barefoot scene , even though I am bored by only DAP scenes . But the barefoot part was really good , too short though but I am satisfied with having it .

[hjohjole]

I only bought one Giorgio scene this month, the one with Sara Bell and Madison Lush. For me the reason i didnt buy any more was that i am just not interested in any of the other models in the other scenes.

I usually dont buy many Gonzo scenes but this month i actually got 4. They had some amazing fresh newbies and Luis actually managed to make some decent scenes with them for once.
But of course the Christmas orgy scene i got mostly for the BTS and the fact that Sara Bell was in it.

[ayrtight]

I have the theory that Gonzo is skyrocketing this month because of the high percentage of barefoot Dp scenes ( Double-blowjob + DP also quite often ) . Maybe I should create a December statistical topic about that ...

[utopiaa]

Bought 13 scenes so far this month from Giorgio. Still at least few I need to get. Would like to buy them all and support the great stuff Giorgio shoots but you Would need 120+ tickets a month to buy all Giorgio scenes.

[marcimilan]

Time to shoot again over the dirt scenes. With yellow piss.
Make it happen with The french mature godess Beauleu

[guaguancogomez]

I believe is good for the site as a whole that from time to time one director Gonzo GG have better short term results than the other. Is normal and good for the internal competition. Gonzo I believe they had bad sales even losses in the mid term of this year. They have recover and now are having very good sales. Some new good stars Veronica Leal That I believe is able to sale any video, the coming back of Timea have give them good results. Good for them. Sure next year GG will come back with new girls and some great ideas and will be first again. Normal things of running any bussiness.

[dpconnoisseur1]

It shouldn't always be looked at negatively. XXX, is always stating how much the site is growing so there is a good possibility that Giorgio made his expected profit but Gonzo just sold more scenes!

For me personally i bought 6 Giorgio scenes which is the most scenes I have ever bought of Giorgio in a month, since he started his 0% Pussy only releases.

[SimplyStunning]

Maybe it just starts to be enough to write "Monster smt" in the title for get more sales

Kinda like titling everything 0% Pussy or No Pussy right ?

[Giorgio Grandi]

No, “no pussy” doesn’t give space for mistakes. It is or it’s not, there are no doubts

Maybe it just starts to be enough to write "Monster smt" in the title for get more sales

Kinda like titling everything 0% Pussy or No Pussy right ?

[magizi877]

You know maybe I misread what Giorgio said in another thread,
but I was expecting a 2-part gangbang scene, with one of his best models, for christmas.

An epic 2-part gangbang scene, with just one model, still eludes us.

I wonder if we will ever see it.

[dap-addict]

XXX, is always stating how much the site is growing so there is a good possibility that Giorgio made his expected profit but Gonzo just sold more scenes!

Might be!
I was just wondering, thats all.
Anyway, added now 9 GIO scenes in order to support him better for Dec also.

[AaronAardvark]

For me I used to be most excited to see GG latest scene each day but now I am most excited to see what Luis will release.
For me GG equals too much DAP (I like DAP but too much for me in GG scenes), pussy hair (the girls that have pubic hair seem to be getting hairier every time they return to his studio) and now a pool of guys who are not as good (or at least big!) as Luis'"A" team.
I enjoyed the Brittany and Kyaa scene as that has so much fisting but it is sad I now often prefer his 1 on 1 scenes at the moment, as a Dylan Brown one on one equals balls deep anal, even some pussy and A2P recently.
Now GG has added Franco Lumpocockoforte to his black squad which feels a big backward step.

So still buying GG scenes but a lot less than a year ago.

[misangrenegra2]

i don't think is Gio's december sales are decresed. I review the best sellers in december and Gonzo has made Xmas orgy, timea bella's comeback, veronica leal (Maybe one of their best girls), Natasha teen in the studio etc.

Definetly Gonzo had a good month. joining some factors.

Anyway Gio studio still making their own style of scenes (0% pussy, anal and DAP) and bringing new girls

[dap-addict]

Probably its a bit above breaking even for them.
Sure some scenes are placed a bit farther in the sales list, but sold still pretty well.
Nearer infos could Giorgio give for sure, but he preferred to write about other things.
Well, I hope all looks fine for GIO also in Dec.
Me, I easily find 18+ scenes I need to buy.

[guaguancogomez]

I made a little crush number analysis of 2018 between the 4 major LP studios. Took 744 Releases ranked from the top 1 LP Christmas to the last.I took out GP releases thats why appears 900 releases.

Gonzo released 275 (37%) movies, GG 329 (44%) movies, IV 109 (15%) movies and AA 31 (4%) movies so far.

If you rank this studios every 100 movies you will find that.

RANKING GONZO GIO AA IV
100 29 52 8 7
200 24 57 8 9
300 35 52 4 3
400 35 50 1 6
500 32 45 5 15
600 37 34 1 17
700 42 20 3 22
800 29 15 1 20
900 12 4 0 1
Releases 275 329 31 109

GG Needs only the first 300 ranked movies to sold 50% (161 movies) of his production. Is where i believe good profits are made.
In the same rank Gonzo ranks only 32% of his releases.
Below rank 700 where i believe even losses can appear per release Gonzo have 30% of his production and GG only 12%.

Note. Look at IV they rank 77% of their production on movies ranked 500 or below. Maybe from this problems have arise.

So, its true that Gonzo have this year in the first 25 top ranked movies 14 movies against 4 from GG (Avi Love at the Top GIO671) but GG dont have to deal with to many releases with poor sales.

BTW for GG piss scenes are quite good, 9 out of the first 25 Top ranked GG movies are wet (36%).

In the TOP Gonzo movies(first 25) only 4 have WET content and includes superstars Timea Bella and Veronica Leal the great money makers for Gonzo

GG Top model is Avi Love (ranks 9 of 12 release in the top 100) while Kira Thorn only 5 out of 19 releases and Nicole Black 4 out of 23 in the Top 100 and Kristy Black 6 out of 12.

Verolina Avluv and Lina Cipher are the Top Milfs.

Raquel Martin and Jessica Bell are the worst Gonzo performers.

Mallory Maneater and Liberta Black do not go well either at GIO.

The best Welcome was for Barbie Sins (Pee scene) and Sara Bell.

Top TAP girls Lyna Cypher Anna De Ville and Barbie Sins for GG

For Gonzo Kristy Black and Timea Bella are the TAP performers.

The oldest releases by Gonzo were sz674 Linda sweet and Anita bellini Pee scene and sz686 Timea Bella Piss Scene

Top Pee performers Veronica Leal, Timea Bella, Ria Sunn, Francys Belle Charlotte Sartre Lidia Black.

Best Gio Series in the Top 100 Fucking Wet 8

Waka Waka 5.

Thats all

[dap-addict]

edit/why dont we get that old edit fat back???!!!
Thats quite some general user accessible insight, thanks a lot!

Now these numbers are interesting - and they also show why I stressed I am talking about Dec. only:

Gonzo released 275 (37%) movies, GG 329 (44%) movies, IV 109 (15%) movies and AA 31 (4%) movies so far.

If you rank this studios every 100 movies you will find that.

RANKING GONZO GIO AA IV
100 29 52 8 7
200 24 57 8 9
300 35 52 4 3
400 35 50 1 6
500 32 45 5 15
600 37 34 1 17
700 42 20 3 22
800 29 15 1 20
900 12 4 0 1
Releases 275 329 31 109

[Sir Noel]

Interesting analysis.

Giorgio has pretty consistent quality and Luis has only really hit form the last half of 2018 so those figures don't surprise me.

[gapefan]

I'm guessing the reason we see Gonzo scenes selling so well relative to Giorgio now is because Gonzo now offers a monthly rate to acquire all of each month's scenes

It may very well be that Giorgio's sales have remained consistent (or even increased), while Gonzo's sales simultaneously increased even more, relative to one another

Were that to be true, it would theoretically create a win-win for both studios

Propelling the LegalPorno distribution platform as a whole even closer to worldwide domination

[xersesxox]

I'm guessing the reason we see Gonzo scenes selling so well relative to Giorgio now is because Gonzo now offers a monthly rate to acquire all of each month's scenes

It may very well be that Giorgio's sales have remained consistent (or even increased), while Gonzo's sales simultaneously increased even more, relative to one another

Were that to be true, it would theoretically create a win-win for both studios

Propelling the LegalPorno distribution platform as a whole even closer to worldwide domination

[i]

It might be possible that many people are tired to watch only DAP and 0% pussy scenes as well as the same actress in several movies and, in some cases up to boredom

As far I am concerned , a new model should be always introduced to LegalPorno members and viewers with a " classical " 1 on 1 scene with vaginal and anal sex both, though, of course, it is only my own opinion.

I also like the idea to watch , for example one or more models to walk on the street with elegant and sexy dresses before to have sex.

[misangrenegra2]

It might be possible that many people are tired to watch only DAP and 0% pussy scenes as well as the same actress in several movies and, in some cases up to boredom

As far I am concerned , a new model should be always introduced to LegalPorno members and viewers with a " classical " 1 on 1 scene with vaginal and anal sex both, though, of course, it is only my own opinion.[/i]

I also like the idea to watch , for example one or more models to walk on the street with elegant and sexy dresses before to have sex.

Gio brings a lot of new girls always as possible. About introducing the girls in 1on1 (pussy and anal) is not necessary, a Dap destination or 2 on 1 can be fine. This year some girls are appear with 1on1 scene.

Almost Gio scenes that he makes are 0% pussy with anal/DAP, sometimes there are DP or TP. Is basically their porn style. Like an anal lover i love this style about full anal treatment, like i said he sometimes introduce DPs or TP (totally valid) but i dont understand the reason to change their "style".

LP has a variety of studios with a different kind of scenes, i dont think this is the reason. The Gio sales are estable and good.

Totally agree in introduce diferent kind of outfits and use diferent locations, this can be a reason to lose some sales

[lpfan777]

i would like to add to the analasys that GONZOs scenes from +- sz2050 and up are omni present in this ranking. u should further isolate and analyze prior releases < before +-sz2050 and lower. U will quickly see that there is an uptrend in sales. Good work luis! don't change to much anymore it''s really getting better and better. (its going to cost me)

A few things i like to add where improvement is still possible.
1.try to experiment with a darker contrast when filming lighter skinned girls and bbc
2.add more piss to scenes but do it simultaniously and while having sex in gapes.
3.more balls deep action
4.ocassional tp and taps
5. standing dap/ cuckmall positions /doggy



1 https://www.legalporno.com/watch/30237/ ... ocks_rs100
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/30494/ ... anal_rs137

2 https://www.legalporno.com/watch/29862/ ... _off_rs073

5 https://www.legalporno.com/watch/30312/ ... _dap_sz983
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/32904/ ... tap_sz1832
https://www.legalporno.com/watch/30748/ ... e_anal_tap

edit/why dont we get that old edit fat back???!!!
Thats quite some general user accessible insight, thanks a lot!

Now these numbers are interesting - and they also show why I stressed I am talking about Dec. only:

Gonzo released 275 (37%) movies, GG 329 (44%) movies, IV 109 (15%) movies and AA 31 (4%) movies so far.

If you rank this studios every 100 movies you will find that.

RANKING GONZO GIO AA IV
100 29 52 8 7
200 24 57 8 9
300 35 52 4 3
400 35 50 1 6
500 32 45 5 15
600 37 34 1 17
700 42 20 3 22
800 29 15 1 20
900 12 4 0 1
Releases 275 329 31 109

[teammelee15]

Not really that hard to figure out why his sales are down....

GG has been releasing A LOT of BBC porn, and his White guys are well not so big....need I say more

Now look at Gonzo. Pretty puppies Combined with THE BIGGEST dicks in the industry.....

Solution? GG needs to clean house on most of his guys and get some real stallions in there and cut back on the BBC stuff 75%....

[xxx]

December has been insanely competitive. Most of the top December scenes are also top yearly scenes. So if you see a relatively low scene this month it would have been placed much higher during another month.

[ayrtight]

I'm guessing the reason we see Gonzo scenes selling so well relative to Giorgio now is because Gonzo now offers a monthly rate to acquire all of each month's scenes

It may very well be that Giorgio's sales have remained consistent (or even increased), while Gonzo's sales simultaneously increased even more, relative to one another

Were that to be true, it would theoretically create a win-win for both studios

Propelling the LegalPorno distribution platform as a whole even closer to worldwide domination

[i][i]

It might be possible that many people are tired to watch only DAP and 0% pussy scenes as well as the same actress in several movies and, in some cases up to boredom

[color=#BF0040]I also like the idea to watch , for example one or more models to walk on the street with elegant and sexy dresses before to have sex.

+ 2

[xersesxox]

I'm guessing the reason we see Gonzo scenes selling so well relative to Giorgio now is because Gonzo now offers a monthly rate to acquire all of each month's scenes

It may very well be that Giorgio's sales have remained consistent (or even increased), while Gonzo's sales simultaneously increased even more, relative to one another

Were that to be true, it would theoretically create a win-win for both studios

Propelling the LegalPorno distribution platform as a whole even closer to worldwide domination

[i][i]

It might be possible that many people are tired to watch only DAP and 0% pussy scenes as well as the same actress in several movies and, in some cases up to boredom

[color=#BF0040]I also like the idea to watch , for example one or more models to walk on the street with elegant and sexy dresses before to have sex.

+ 2

Thanks
Your support is always appreciated
I would like to add only that , lately, LegalPorno has made significant improvements , especially the new features in Pornbox section, though, IMHO of course, lots of actresses ,have body to die for, so, it would be definitively a pro to watch her well dressed ,for instance tailleur , night dresses, coed uniform , high heeled shoes ( trendy stilettos ) while they are walking on the streets, they are getting out from a car ( not necessarily a Lambo/ Ferrari , Maserati Quattroporte etc etc , the budget matters
I dunno, maybe , later, I am watching too many Vogue Magazines

[dap-addict]

December has been insanely competitive. Most of the top December scenes are also top yearly scenes. So if you see a relatively low scene this month it would have been placed much higher during another month.

Uff!
Thanks for clarification, xxx!
So I rang the alarm bell too early, which is good to hear this matter concerned.

[SimplyStunning]

Not really that hard to figure out why his sales are down....

GG has been releasing A LOT of BBC porn

Solution? cut back on the BBC stuff 75%....

I didn't realize this was a personal taste gripe thread. So since teammelee15 is just claiming things he doesn't like is the problem I will do the same. Yeah, GG sales are down because all he does is shoot piss and no pussy scenes. All he has to do is cut down that stuff by 75% and all will be okay

[dap-addict]

Maybe you started that trend here, even?

Maybe it just starts to be enough to write "Monster smt" in the title for get more sales

Kinda like titling everything 0% Pussy or No Pussy right ?

[SimplyStunning]

^Nice try but it is clear to see I was responding to Giorgio dig at Gonzo outselling him for December. So thanks for pointing out that actually it was Giorgio that tried to derail the thread with his dig at Gonzo not teammelee15 my apologies to teammelee15

[dap-addict]

Giorgio was just hinting at titles as important part of PR.
Call it derailing if you want, its still part of the truth too.

[SimplyStunning]

^You are funny, "it is still part of the truth too". Take your lips off his ass and think about what is implied. Let me infer for you, the only reason I'm being outsold is that the customers buying those scenes that are outselling mine aren't really better it is just because they are too stupid to see that Gonzo is just tagging any trash with Monster Cock.

[dap-addict]

Truth is still also that size is not the only factor for the performing girl - for the viewer yes - and more important is finding the right position and establishing mutual trust on set.
Anyway, all is more complicated as it seems to lots of fanboys as well as porn act-fans.

[SimplyStunning]

I don't really understand your reply but if you are calling yourself a Giorgio fanboy, I agree.

[Giorgio Grandi]

My schedule for December has been not different from previous months, Gonzo instead has concentrated the best scenes with the most beautiful models in the holiday period, thing that I did not do at all and I schedule only one wet scene in december (gonzo at now released 3 I think, or more). In the previous years I did not even released much in that period as I known it would be a lottery. Said that, in November I did not almost shoot, so I did release almost anything new, I actually almost closed my year in October.

And I want to add: every time I add pussy fucking into a scene I have every time the feeling Im selling less, in december and november for example I remember a lot of DP into my content, Im not surprised of low results and I dont compare with results of other studios, its pointless. Different girls gives different results even with the same kind of action.

I outsold regularly almost everyone I do not even know for how many years here on LP. Now Gonzo is releasing better content and he can help more to get more new members, this is very good and I am happy about this, but if you ask me what Monster Dicks means, well Dredd imho is a monster dick just for you to understand what I think about this topic. Freddy Gong and Dylan, with also Neeo and probably someone else have the same size as what you guys consider a monster dick, but as I do not think so, I did not name the scenes on that way. I will may change this, would you feel better knowing I consider big what it is not?

Is there anything else to argue / complain / mislead even at the end of the year? Really, guys, be constructive and not polemic, otherwise it does not even make sense to read a forum. I find more interesting the private messages I get instead than endless conversations about nothing.

In few words: this month Gonzo is selling better and so? Do you think it bothers me?
If you think so, you are very, very wrong and you make me believe it has been a waste of time to write here for all the year.

[pastaga]

Well I won't be unhappy if you could manage to make your regular guys dicks look bigger. Like more angles that make them look like the size of a girl head or arm.
I won't be unhappy if you could find an euro Dredd and book it regularly either.