Ugly models? Why????

[Nerdperv]

....why do we keep seeing ugly girls? This last video with jureka and whatever is the worst combo... usr some beautifull girls mate. I know it's hard but do some effort!!!

[pastaga]

Use some glasses dude ! I know it's hard but do some effort...


Or go on another site where you like the girls better.

[tekaneo]

You need to add 2 things in your life before speak about some or with other persons, just take a pen a some paper and add:

- Respect
- Education

When you have obtained and have understood them, then and only then come back again to LP forum to chat here.

[Angel Eyes]

WTF is the OP talking about? Here I was thinking how great Jureka is looking here. She's always been hot but here, with her longer hair, black neck collar and slutty lingerie...fuck, she's an instant hard on machine (better and better with each scene too). Monika is another confident, amazing beauty that always performs at 100% level without fail.

Could be the OP needs eyeglasses maybe?

[staygold]

Yes, quality of models has come to a point LP main page is barely worth visiting...

Only occasional flicks from GG and black studio are good.

[Nerdperv]

I see some "educated" and "respectfull" fanboys here with nothing but bad taste! As somebody is saying only ocasionally LP has good models. However this is the only website with this genre so this is why i am trying to suggest some improvements. Sorry for the guys which are so attached to the models that they cannot handle criticism, i assume they are the only women in their lives....

[VBT_2]

I like Nicole Black, and newbies like this keep me follow LP... because, by my taste, there is something in that stories that unattractive models shoot more often.

[Giorgio Grandi]

On LP the quality of the content overcame the looking of the girls, means "the action" rules and the girl became almost of secondary importance

[Nerdperv]

There cannot be such things as good quality films without good quality models. And by good quality i mean astonishing looking gorls fucked in the best and most perverted way possible. I can understa d your prefeeences to work with less atractive women but more willing but believe me this will not take you anywhere. I mean if you would only have girls like Srlvaggia around that would be a different story, only that these ladies are no where near Selvaggia...

[Nerdperv]

And gosh you know some very good models here, use them!

[vampsinthe78]

On LP the quality of the content overcame the looking of the girls, means "the action" rules and the girl became almost of secondary importance

There are still some who are a bit more discerning. I don't care how many cocks go in each hole or what extreme acts are jammed into each scene. If the girl is hot and ready to take a solid pounding, I will always priotise. Gimme Gina Gerson, Cathy Heaven, Hennessy, Susanna Melo or Victoria Daniels and a cock or two and I'm happy.

[twistedvincent]

^ Too bad basically NONE of those girls work or have worked with Giorgio.

[Iddaoeeok]

On LP the quality of the content overcame the looking of the girls, means "the action" rules and the girl became almost of secondary importance

Personally, for me, it is always girls first and content second, but that's probably an old-fashioned attitude

[pastaga]

On LP the quality of the content overcame the looking of the girls, means "the action" rules and the girl became almost of secondary importance

Personally, for me, it is always girls first and content second, but that's probably an old-fashioned attitude

Same here, but I like most of Giorgio's last recruits, so I'm not complaining.

[twistedvincent]

But as a whole the quality of gorls on LP has DRASTICALLY dropped the past 6 months or so.
Shame

[Angel Eyes]

I'm a specific model buyer, not an acts performed buyer. If a still photo set of the model gets a rise out of me then she meets my threshold for wanting to see her in live action taking cock in various positions. DAP/TP/TAP are great but it all looks like basically the same bland action on screen if the model doesn't turn me on. LP might get first-time buyers who want to see specific acts but repeat customers are probably model driven and that's where the quality of the models is important.

The OP complaining about 'ugly' models was a bit too harsh on the specific models he named (I find them far from ugly); however, I kinda get his overall point...just didn't like his blunt approach.

[Iddaoeeok]

I'm a specific model buyer, not an acts performed buyer. If a still photo set of the model gets a rise out of me then she meets my threshold for wanting to see her in live action taking cock in various positions. DAP/TP/TAP are great but it all looks like basically the same bland action on screen if the model doesn't turn me on. LP might get first-time buyers who want to see specific acts but repeat customers are probably model driven and that's where the quality of the models is important.

The OP complaining about 'ugly' models was a bit too harsh on the specific models he named (I find them far from ugly); however, I kinda get his overall point...just didn't like his blunt approach.

Totally agree, I can see where the OP is coming from but I hate when people carelessly throw around words like ugly about women who are most definitely not ugly but, yes, aren't flawless beauties like a Belle Claire. Not everyone is turned on by flawless beauties anyway, it's all in the eye (and other parts) of the beholder.

[goodkinghenry]

Girls before content for me all the way. Unfortunately almost none of Giorgio's current models do it for me. And as they're so frequently coming back (also with these partial scenes) and popping up at other studios seems to me it's all the time the same again.

[Ass2Die4464]

It is funny to hear the voices of disagreement now as this is not the first time this issue has been raised. This is 2nd time Giorgio not the fans have said he is looking for average girls that will do all the crazy things he loves to shoot. He is in the business to make money and from the statistics his statement is true to the majority of LP paying customers. It is easy to see look at the monthly Top 10 it has been dominated with Giorgio content and his self described average looking models.

Just to be clear I disagree with Giorgio statement which is why I hardly by his content. Once he lost Arwen Gold, Evelina Darling, Belle Claire, Times Bella, Sara Kay, Ornella Morgan, Krystal Kaylin I slowed my purchases of his content. Then getting upset because of the new potential girls that I like being one and done made me not think twice about skipping his content. In my mind why not more of Latoya Devi, Anya Krey, Gabriella Ross and Tera Link.

Why would his choices change of selecting models when his self proclaimed average models all filling his pockets. I love seeing gorgeous modems doing wild hardcore scenes as it portrays real fantasies but if like any other businessman my customers don't care they just want more over the top content over beauty I would do the same. Our opinions only matter if they affect LP financially.

[RedBaron]

I'm a specific model buyer, not an acts performed buyer. If a still photo set of the model gets a rise out of me then she meets my threshold for wanting to see her in live action taking cock in various positions. DAP/TP/TAP are great but it all looks like basically the same bland action on screen if the model doesn't turn me on. LP might get first-time buyers who want to see specific acts but repeat customers are probably model driven and that's where the quality of the models is important.

The OP complaining about 'ugly' models was a bit too harsh on the specific models he named (I find them far from ugly); however, I kinda get his overall point...just didn't like his blunt approach.

Also totaly agree. I hope Giorgio will bring back some of these girls:
Vinna Reed, Amirah Adara, Evelina Darling, Silvia Dellai and allways Ria Sunn
And some good ones from Gonzo:
Victoria Pure, Cherry Kiss, Lyen Parker, Alexis Crystal

[teammelee15]

What I dont understand is why doesn't he shoot girls that are only shot for gonzo? They are already taking DAP with bigger dicks and are wayyyyyyy hoter. Inga Devil, Claudia Mac, Nataly Gold, Helena Moeller, Holly Hendrix, Jessi Emperor. Just to name a few. Cant be because its a different studio because GG girls go and shoot for gonzo after working for him. Dont understand why it cant go both ways? But I agree while GG girls are sub par they do nasty stuff so they make up for not being the most attractive imo.

[error01x]

On LP the quality of the content overcame the looking of the girls, means "the action" rules and the girl became almost of secondary importance

Thats a very sad information for me. In the beginning of LP I bought a lot of scene because of the beauty girls, in last time I don't buy a lot scenes.

[Nerdperv]

Guys sorry for the blunt approach but sometimes it's better to say out loud what you think then to hide behind words. I really miss Ornella Morgan and Alexis Crystal and so many other beautiful models which were not treated to their right potential. LP does not get ot that only putting x dicks up a models ass doesn't make for good porn. I remember lecastel or rocco or even woodman when he was not a fat fuck back in his early days, those were real intense hardcore movies. Nowadays it's too much too fast lacking real intensity and passion. I do not want to be a trol but it's a pity to have the models, the money and the capability and to produce lame flicks. And i also have to admit all criticism aside, GG is by far the best from LP. Proxy is also coming from behind really fast ... luis and stefano are shooting crap and concercing the interracial series, that is not even worth mentioning.

[Vawkes]

I can't criticize their performances and dedication, but I will never purchase a scene with either: Jureka Del Mar or Monika Wild for this very reason.

Everyone has their own reasons and preferences for watching porn, but I only want to see gorgeous women perform.

[VBT_2]

"Shoot porn WITH UGLY MODELS is like a cake without dressing, even if tasty it looks like a crap"

[VBT_2]

Now serious...

On LP the quality of the content overcame the looking of the girls, means "the action" rules and the girl became almost of secondary importance

Filming beautiful girl itself isn't porn, but filming any girl "in the action" is; however, porn itself isn't enough to me (even the best one by some standards) if there's no girl which I find attractive.

My 2 cents.

[kidloco2]

Wtf? Are som eof you guys really watching porn for the beauty of the girls? Gosh it's porn. I don't think a word ugly is appropriate to describe a woman, but even if she wouldn't be the best looking one on the planet, she might have much nicer body / pussy / ass and give much better action than the rest and that's what I care about in porn.

Personally on LP I have seen the most interesting girls in porn with a huge amount of variety. That's valuable for me.

[dap-addict]

+ 1

Action rules on LP as far as DAP is required.
Sure if they wanna work for Giorgio.
As this sells best

The rest of Giorgios statement is cheeky - and we all know it!

[Magoo8]

+1 SUGGEST PAGE REALLY DON´T HELP

[Giorgio Grandi]

I understand somehow your frustration, but the concept of "ugly" in porn is not working. There is every time someone who likes the model you consider "ugly".
Personally I dont want to shoot a shitload of girls because I dont agree they are suitable for LP (no balance between beauty and performance), but I cant consider a model "ugly", it would be pretty stupid.
I have a friend running a website with BBC, he is super happy with sales and he makes more money then with his teen website where the girls are more pretty.

The balance between beauty and performance makes me decide who to shoot and what to shoot.

Then, just for make it more clear, is not basically me who decide who has the right balance between beauty and performance, I every time base my thoughts on sales and nothing more. I suggest you to check out "Best video" and then select a month, it will be enlighten

[kidloco2]

I every time base my thoughts on sales and nothing more.

No wonder then why I have far more Gonzo scenes than yours. Don't you want to shoot a girl just because she's interesting or will deliver hot action regardless sales once in a while?

[magizi877]

Whats the bbc website, I want to check it out

[Giorgio Grandi]

Sorry I meant BBW

[Giorgio Grandi]

kid, I would love to shoot more variety of girls but, with all the respect, if you count:
- girls I think they wont sale properly
- girls that dont want to work for me (were many until few months ago, now several they are contacting me back asking for job and I dont really know what I will do)
- girls I dont personally like
- girls where the "rank" doesnt suggest more shooting (how to say: not fashion anymore between users, or the rank dropped to mush for justify new scenes)
- girls I know are not able to "make" a scene for me without to hate me, dont even consider to shoot 3-4 scenes
- girls I know they would be able or interesting for 1 scene only (its not worth to even bring them to Prague)

Also to recruit a plain new girl that is not able to stand scenes at LP is not even worth the investment of time (and money) as most of other website/producer shoot a girl once or twice and thats it.
TWM prefers to focus on few girls that can work with everyone or just for LP, on the other hand someone else sometimes find new girls, but the arrogance to consider himself/herself an agent, let the girl without job after two months, with the result that she quit the industry. Lets dont count who mix porn and prostitution. The industry is changed and LP should be a hub for agents, and agents should chose carefully where the model performs.
If a new model dont get well ranked on LP as soon as possible and she doesnt became a "regular" model at LP, she is destined to disappear in most of the cases.

Other example: I spoke with a pretty model today by email. She contacted me, she told me "I dont want to work for LP", I asked her why and she told me "I dont want". I respect this, but it doesnt have sense hunting for job with everyone and refuse the only website that can give you regular incoming (specially if you introduce yourself as a "very good anal performer")

So, I shoot what I can shoot in the meantime TWM is working on new girls every time, brand new talent not influenced by mediocrity, but is harder.

I every time base my thoughts on sales and nothing more.

No wonder then why I have far more Gonzo scenes than yours. Don't you want to shoot a girl just because she's interesting or will deliver hot action regardless sales once in a while?

[tekaneo]

Giorgio

Can you please say whats the status with Kiara Lord / Kira Roller and Evelina Darling? Are you interested to shot more scenes with them? Kiara and Kiara on have 1 scene and im sure ppl will love more scenes with Evelina

[tekaneo]

I mean Kiara Gold and Kira Roller and Evelina Darling

[Jon_Jonz]

Giorgio,some of us are still waiting for a Juelz Ventura return and it seems you know how to shoot great scenes with the big stars/

[error01x]

I understand somehow your frustration, but the concept of "ugly" in porn is not working. There is every time someone who likes the model you consider "ugly".
Personally I dont want to shoot a shitload of girls because I dont agree they are suitable for LP (no balance between beauty and performance), but I cant consider a model "ugly", it would be pretty stupid.
I have a friend running a website with BBC, he is super happy with sales and he makes more money then with his teen website where the girls are more pretty.

The balance between beauty and performance makes me decide who to shoot and what to shoot.

Then, just for make it more clear, is not basically me who decide who has the right balance between beauty and performance, I every time base my thoughts on sales and nothing more. I suggest you to check out "Best video" and then select a month, it will be enlighten

I understand that girls that have a low performance are not worth to invest. But there are more attractive girls with high performance like Belle Claire, Nataly Gold, July Sun, Ria Sunn, Arwen Gold, Kira Thorn, Bree Haze. Why always Monika Wild, Gabriella Lati and Selvaggia no one of this girls are in the best of videos. It would be nice to shoot more July Sun and Ria Sunn. Please get Nataly Gold and Belle Claire back, they deliver the best performance.

[bdsmpretty]

beauty is in the eye of the beholder. what you don't like someone else might love. it's seriously out of order to call the girls "ugly" just because they don't appeal to your particular subjective tastes.

'why so?' it's a thing called 'showing respect' (it came up early on in this thread, which is a credit to the forum membership).
if the girls you are looking at are not to your taste, find another. they are hundreds of models on this site and new ones arriving every week. there will be something for you somewhere, if not now then soon (tbh if not now, you are a lost cause)

it reveals a lack of class (sorry but it does) when you resort to insulting people who are trying their absolute best to do something to please you. so don't do it. maybe ask for more blonde or brunette models if you like blondes or brunettes, thin or curvy, etc. with a little tact it is possible to ask for exactly what you want without insulting anyone.

some LP girls do log-in to the forum for feedback. even those girls that are not to your taste have feelings worth respecting.

[kidloco2]

Thanks Giorgio for further insight, I overlooked some of your points when I was writing my post and I didn't realize there are more things to consider
apart from sales.

This

girls that dont want to work for me (were many until few months ago, now several they are contacting me back asking for job and I dont really know what I will do)

got me interested, I'm wondering why do you thing they don't / didn't want to shoot with you or hate you? Do girls mixing escort fall into this category as well?

I understand your points, but how's possible that Gonzo studio have more variety of the girls even many having only single scene? Does Gonzo possibly have different business approach (I know you don't share this info between studios) ?

For example this girl, Lyen Parker. She's so interesting and kind of beautiful, but even doing anal well I wouldn't think we will have a scene on LP. But we already have two of them. Same goes for Kristy Black, such a nice anal performer, you don't like her?

Cheers, kidloco

kid, I would love to shoot more variety of girls but, with all the respect, if you count:
- girls I think they wont sale properly
- girls that dont want to work for me (were many until few months ago, now several they are contacting me back asking for job and I dont really know what I will do)
- girls I dont personally like
- girls where the "rank" doesnt suggest more shooting (how to say: not fashion anymore between users, or the rank dropped to mush for justify new scenes)
- girls I know are not able to "make" a scene for me without to hate me, dont even consider to shoot 3-4 scenes
- girls I know they would be able or interesting for 1 scene only (its not worth to even bring them to Prague)

Also to recruit a plain new girl that is not able to stand scenes at LP is not even worth the investment of time (and money) as most of other website/producer shoot a girl once or twice and thats it.
TWM prefers to focus on few girls that can work with everyone or just for LP, on the other hand someone else sometimes find new girls, but the arrogance to consider himself/herself an agent, let the girl without job after two months, with the result that she quit the industry. Lets dont count who mix porn and prostitution. The industry is changed and LP should be a hub for agents, and agents should chose carefully where the model performs.
If a new model dont get well ranked on LP as soon as possible and she doesnt became a "regular" model at LP, she is destined to disappear in most of the cases.

Other example: I spoke with a pretty model today by email. She contacted me, she told me "I dont want to work for LP", I asked her why and she told me "I dont want". I respect this, but it doesnt have sense hunting for job with everyone and refuse the only website that can give you regular incoming (specially if you introduce yourself as a "very good anal performer")

So, I shoot what I can shoot in the meantime TWM is working on new girls every time, brand new talent not influenced by mediocrity, but is harder.

I every time base my thoughts on sales and nothing more.

No wonder then why I have far more Gonzo scenes than yours. Don't you want to shoot a girl just because she's interesting or will deliver hot action regardless sales once in a while?