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Thought about this yesterday.

I think Legalporno has gone somewhere no other studio has gone before with the massive amount of DAP scenes. I cannot think of any other studio that has come even close.
For me this represents a shift. For most studios like Evil Angel, Jules Jordan, DDF or 21 Sextury that are regarded as strong on anal there seems to be maybe a rule of thirds. Two thirds of scenes are anal and a third are just vaginal.
Legalporno is the studio that adds another cock up the asshole. Your vag only scene is their anal scene. Your anal scene is their double anal scene.

Impressive.

I don't really think sheer quantity (of anything) makes a site unique. To me, what makes a site unique is doing things that no one else has done, or taking them to a different level.

LP was once like this, with the piss (which I loved) and the cream (which I was lukewarm on). In particular, Giorgio's piss scenes really pushed the envelope, and in doing so, raised the bar for what constitutes truly hardcore porn.

Now, however, even though LP is probably still the most hardcore (major) studio, they aren't really unique. They are doing basically the same stuff that a lot of other people are doing. The only difference is that they are doing it better than the rest.

Are you saying taking piss to a "different level" made them unique, but taking DAP to a different level does not?

If so, I don't follow your logic.

Whether you want to call it a "shift", or "taking things to a different level", or "raising the bar", or "pushing the envelope" or "the most hardcore", or "doing it better than the rest", the fact remains, no other company is consistently producing the quantity or quality of beautiful models doing DAP that LegalPorno is.

And that, at least in my mind, makes LegalPorno completely unique, raises the bar, and constitutes what is in my opinion, truly hardcore porn

Impressive indeed! To say the very least!


(Before you say it, the very same could have been said of piss, up until five months ago)

I really like Jules Jordan or hard x. Especially the technical side ;camera work, lightning and choreography. I like other sites as well like brazzers.

But

LP is on a league of its own. Where other producers are not even close to this level of hard anal sex in combination with very pretty, sexy ladies.

gapefan wrote:Are you saying taking piss to a "different level" made them unique, but taking DAP to a different level does not?

No, I'm saying that they haven't taken DAP to a different level. Their DAP scenes are really no different from those found in plenty of other places. They just shoot more of them.

Many people here act like LP invented DAP. Take a look at Videobox (hardly known as the home of ultra hardcore porn). They have 549 DAP scenes!!! http://www.videobox.com/browse/scenes/category/2081

LP used to make scenes that you literally couldn't find anywhere else: piss and cream in the same scene, piss and DAP in the same scene, and so on. Now, they just make the same scenes as many other studios, except in much higher quantity, and slightly higher quality.

Imagine a site that released 10 anal scenes a day. However, it was just the same plain old "vanilla" anal that you see at Vivid, Reality Kings, Elegant Angel, and so forth. Would that make them unique, just because they released more of the same thing you can find elsewhere?

Whether you want to call it a "shift", or "taking things to a different level", or "raising the bar", or "pushing the envelope" or "the most hardcore", or "doing it better than the rest", the fact remains, no other company is consistently producing the quantity or quality of beautiful models doing DAP that LegalPorno is.

And that, at least in my mind, makes LegalPorno completely unique, raises the bar, and constitutes what is in my opinion, truly hardcore porn

XXX himself admitted that they are "toning it down" -- I fail to see how you can "tone it down" and "push the envelope" at the same time.

And before you start building straw men, I'm not saying the porn LP is putting out now is bad porn. I'm simply saying there is nothing unique about it.

I already said, the very same argument I make for the 'uniqueness' of DAP, can also be made for the 'uniqueness' of piss. Or did you miss that part?

You say others act like LegalPorno invented DAP? Well, guess what? You act like LegalPorno invented piss

Since you'd obviously like to continue this discussion...humor me. I triple dog dare you, to name one other website that consistently produces DAP scenes with the length (in minutes), the intensity (i.e. balls deep), the quality of performers (for example: Ria Sunn), and the quality of production values (lighting, set, outfits, makeup)

You may find a website that is able to match one, possibly two or three, of those criteria in any given scene. But not all four. And especially not on such a consistent basis

(And that's not even bringing into play the sheer quantity they have produced, in a very short amount of time)

I call that 'unique', 'pushing the envelope', and all of the above associated terminology

Btw, LegalPorno still produces DAP with Kreme scenes
http://www.legalporno.com/watch/30011/kitana_lure_arwen_gold_once_again_double_anal_with_cream_top_sluts_got_dap_ed_rs75

And I hadn't even brought up the envelope they've been pushing with gapefarts. Other major producers are taking notice, and following suit, but LegalPorno is the true innovator of this fetish

Lastly, once again, the very same arguments I just made for DAP, could just as easily have been made for pissing, up until 5 or 6 months ago.

gapefan wrote:Since you'd obviously like to continue this discussion...humor me. I triple dog dare you, to name one other website that consistently produces DAP scenes with the length (in minutes), the intensity (i.e. balls deep), the quality of performers (for example: Ria Sunn), and the quality of production values (lighting, set, outfits, makeup)

You may find a website that is able to match one, possibly two or three, of those criteria in any given scene. But not all four. And especially not on such a consistent basis

(And that's not even bringing into play the sheer quantity they have produced, in a very short amount of time)

I call that 'unique', 'pushing the envelope', and all of the above associated terminology

Looks like we'll have to consult the old dictionary.

Unique:

—used to say that something or someone is unlike anything or anyone else

: very special or unusual

: belonging to or connected with only one particular thing, place, or person

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/unique

All the stuff you talk about is just evidence that LP shoots a higher quantity and/or higher quality of DAP scene. I already admitted both of those things. But that doesn't make them unique. I already gave you a link to 549 scenes that are at least somewhat similar to them. On the other hand, I dare you to give me one single example, from any other company, of a scene combining DAP and piss drinking. Just one. Or, with the exception of Max Hardcore (who hasn't produced any such scenes in almost a decade) a scene combining 0% pussy with piss drinking. Or (again, with the exception of Max) even a scene combining ATM and piss drinking. The combination of piss and other hardcore sex was the main thing that made them unique. (Others that do piss either do it with no sex, or with very tame, vanilla sex.) It doesn't matter whether you liked it, loved it, or hated it. It was something you simply couldn't find anywhere else, and that's what the word "unique" means.

Oh, and I'll ask again: How can you "tone it down" and "push the envelope" at the same time?

And I hadn't even brought up the envelope they've been pushing with gapefarts. Other major producers are taking notice, and following suit, but LegalPorno is the true innovator of this fetish

Well, I don't consider it to be "pushing the envelope" (as it denotes pushing the boundaries of what is considered acceptable), but I'll grant you that it is somewhat unique. However, I don't think it's much of a feather in their cap. After all, if they had the girls constantly sneezing throughout the scene, that would also be a "unique" type of scene.

You couldn't name one other company

Because there isn't another one that meets those criteria

The link to videobox only stands to prove my point even further. Videobox is not a producer. All that is, is a combination of scenes from many different companies, that were produced sporadically over a very extended period of time


So this is your definition of unique?


Unique:

—used to say that something or someone is unlike anything or anyone else

: very special or unusual

: belonging to or connected with only one particular thing, place, or person


Let's revisit my original thesis statement:

No other company is consistently producing the quantity or quality of beautiful models doing DAP that LegalPorno is.

Looks to me like it fits your definition of 'unique' just fine


And gapefarts are considered 'unacceptable' by a few of the members here. They may not have used those exact words when they were so vocal about them, but the context is the same

Getting rid of piss, is 'toning it down'. And 'pushing the envelope', is producing TAP and gapefart scenes

What makes LP unique for me is that all of the girls seem to love what they are doing.

How many other websites have a greater percentage of girls who LOVE the fucking they are getting?

Maybe LP treat them better? It does appear that the girls are enjoying themselves more though.

gapefan wrote:You couldn't name one other company

Because there isn't another one that meets those criteria

The link to videobox only stands to prove my point even further. Videobox is not a producer. All that is, is a combination of scenes from many different companies, that were produced sporadically over a very extended period of time

You don't seem to understand my point. Just for a moment, take a deep breath, and stop focusing so hard on your constant quest to defend the honor of LP against any statement that might conceivably be perceived as an insult. I'm not using "unique" as a synonym for "better" -- but obviously, you are:

No other company is consistently producing the quantity or quality of beautiful models doing DAP that LegalPorno is.

I already agreed with that. That doesn't make them unique. McDonald's sells by far more burgers than any other chain. Does that make them unique? No. Fundamentally, they are still doing the same thing as Burger King, Wendy's, and many others. They are just doing it better, and on a larger scale.

The same is true of LP. That was the point of the VB link. There are many, many other companies shooting the same kinds of scenes as LP, just not with the same frequency. By contrast, I challenged you to name even one -- just one!!! -- company that produces scenes with a combination of pissing and hard anal. You couldn't, because there isn't one. LP did, and that was what made them unique. Did it make them better than they are now? Maybe, maybe not. That's a matter of opinion. But it is a matter of fact that such scenes made them unique.

Getting rid of piss, is 'toning it down'. And 'pushing the envelope', is producing TAP and gapefart scenes

Look at the context. XXX was asked about more than just piss, and he responded as follows:

7. On Legal Porno there is a lot of gangbangs, anal and piss. Some people consider it harder. What is your take on those characteristics of the site? Why the piss drinking?
It's all fine as long as it's all between consenting adults. However, for various reasons, I have decided to tone things down a bit.

The statement about toning it down is not specific to piss (although that is obviously a large part of it). But he is making a general statement that they are deliberately toning things down. Of course, that's exactly what I predicted would happen, back when the piss ban was originally announced. You vehemently disagreed, and, as always, you were dead wrong.

Tastes Like Ass wrote:Now, however, even though LP is probably still the most hardcore (major) studio, they aren't really unique. They are doing basically the same stuff that a lot of other people are doing. The only difference is that they are doing it better than the rest.

If all you're talking about are combinations of fetishes, which cannot be found elsewhere, LegalPorno is still very unique

Nikky Dream's latest scene is proof, which happens to include two of my favorite fetishes, DAP and gapefarts, a unique combination which cannot be found anywhere else

Not only that! But it also includes DAVP and TAP, which are a rarity to say the very least!

And, as I mentioned earlier, Double Anal Kreme scenes are still being produced

Piss got banned, get over it dude

sirnoelplum wrote:I think Legalporno has gone somewhere no other studio has gone before with the massive amount of DAP scenes. I cannot think of any other studio that has come even close.
For me this represents a shift.

I agree generally, but not sure its a shift really. There was GGs norestfortheass before and doppenanal.net earlier. The latter had dap scenes only, but the site stopped after a dotzen of scenes. And Chico Wang in the US.

But incorporating Giorgio Grandis works trimmed yet more towards dap makes LP unique. I also get the feeling LP propells SOS to shoot more dap than before.
But for sure its not only dap alone, but the way that really demanding sex act is presented to porn consumers - hight quality, good lighting, usually hard and fast paced fucking, with dicks going fairly deep avoiding cheap dipping.
Maybe most important they set new standards for girls working for them. For porn destination Prague thats a shift for sure.