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Alright I am noticing a drastic decrease in new scenes being released?
I am aware that there are some issue in some of the studios.

It would be good if some one could summarise what's really happening and if one can expect any changes in the future.
I think people would like some sort of update or clarification regarding this.

This has been the case for a while now, probably a year or more? Gonzo shut down and Giorgio retired, and these were the two main LP studios at one point.

But ultimately it's not so easy to make mainstream porn these days, mostly due to economic reasons. Predominantly the change in the porn market (a shift towards a "content creator" economy through personal platforms engaging directly with fans, without the need for a mainstream studio and all the headaches that go with it), LP has lost a number of its biggest stars to OF for example, Kristy Black and Jolee Love the most notable.

Add to this the increasingly unfavorable economic conditions affecting the global economy - big inflation over the last few years, the cost of everything increasing (and naturally girls' fees as well), but many porn fans not necessarily being willing to pay a lot more for their porn.

All of this just means mainstream studios need to find new ways to survive, which means lower outlay on scenes and reduced production, but the reality is mainstream porn will never be as big as it used to be.

Thanks for that reply.

I guess the golden days are gone then.

I started noticing this about 4 months ago guess they managed till then with already shot scenes.

AnalVids was the golden standard for people like me. Hoping things turn for the better.

LP was at its apex when they had May Thai, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Cindy Shine, Ria Sunn (now retired). Other than some of the South American girls, I don't even click on the trailers. Really don't like the abusive stuff, its too extreme for me, and the girls take couple of days to couple of weeks to recover from the trauma. If you don't look after the assets they move on

real_savings wrote:LP was at its apex when they had May Thai, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Cindy Shine, Ria Sunn (now retired). Other than some of the South American girls, I don't even click on the trailers. Really don't like the abusive stuff, its too extreme for me, and the girls take couple of days to couple of weeks to recover from the trauma. If you don't look after the assets they move on

yeah very agree with a models you mentioned - they were the best. But how come they don’t do similar stuff anymore? Demand changed? Now people just want tripple penetration and peeing and the same time? Can’t imagine that is the case

real_savings wrote:Ria Sunn (now retired).

Ria Sunn is retired!!!???

Last I heard Ria was pregnant, and is naturally taking some time out for her pregnancy, and to recover and then look after her baby. This can usually be anything from a 18 month to 3 year process. She is not now retired. But merely taking some time out for very understandable personal reasons.
It is like an employee taking a sabbatical to tend to an elderly parent who has terminal cancer...it is a very understandable reason to not work for now.

jjwhite1985 wrote:This has been the case for a while now, probably a year or more? Gonzo shut down and Giorgio retired, and these were the two main LP studios at one point.

But ultimately it's not so easy to make mainstream porn these days, mostly due to economic reasons. Predominantly the change in the porn market (a shift towards a "content creator" economy through personal platforms engaging directly with fans, without the need for a mainstream studio and all the headaches that go with it), LP has lost a number of its biggest stars to OF for example, Kristy Black and Jolee Love the most notable.

Add to this the increasingly unfavorable economic conditions affecting the global economy - big inflation over the last few years, the cost of everything increasing (and naturally girls' fees as well), but many porn fans not necessarily being willing to pay a lot more for their porn.

All of this just means mainstream studios need to find new ways to survive, which means lower outlay on scenes and reduced production, but the reality is mainstream porn will never be as big as it used to be.

I'm agree in part with you.

Gonzo shut down but is not Luis who manage Yummy studio? is just that he took the bussiness to south america on, i guess, the cost are lower but has a new bunch of guys and, more interesting, of new girls on is exploring new stuff as puking and food play.

Giorgio delegated the managment to Andrew who clearly reduced the number of releases per week.

Yummy, Mambo and EKS has a similar activity, also natasha still shooting content, as before but is not the same for LTP, NF, P4F or VK that clearly are gone (the first three), and VK doesn't release as before.

I really think that a reduction of production makes sense if we thought the rivality and the number of customers, i always thought that the offer was too much of the possible demand here..is a guessing, i don't have the numbers but were a couple of years with the 6-7 main studios releasing new scenes per day with the prices rising and the inflation.. how could be possible sell everything to everyone? For me, currently is more realistic that a good customer can support 5-6 studios regulary (buying even 1 scene per week of each other) than before on the customer had available more than 35 scenes per week for choice....

It's all about the context of you - the consumer.

Do you really need 20+ scenes a week? I dunno - maybe you do. But, the way things are going right now ...

There are three main studios producing the best porn to be found anywhere right now. And they are:

Natasha Teen Studios - Yummy Estudios - Mambo Perv.

Young, supple, exquisite beauties coming in and getting absolutely ploughed by the biggest cocks in porn in DVP/DAP/TVP/TAP shot porn.

There is literally nothing to complain about there.

Every once in a while - the European studios still produce something good. Like the latest Andrew scene with Jureka Del Mar - and one of the latest ones with Princess Lili at EKS - they can absolutely come through from time to time.

To no fault of the studios - absolutely none - the European actresses are rather ... not at the heights they once used to be. It's hard to get excited when the women are either plus forty five - look spray painted with tattoos - or look like a haunted spirit that escaped from a 1,000 year old sealed jar.

South America is absolutely where it's at right now. And they're playing it smart.

The productions take absolute care to make sure we get the best viewing experience possible - the scenes are immaculately shot - the actresses are beyond penis explodingly beautiful - the clothing is sexy as all hell (yeah, Oscar really likes the shoes, get over it (I mean, I don't like the shoes, but it isn't a deal-breaker or anything, c'mon) - and the studs perform like a well-oiled machine by this point.

This is another golden age in AV/PB pornography. It's just being spear-headed by a different crew on a different continent. And you're not getting as much as before, but, like, really ...

Six fucking hours of porn a week isn't enough for you?

I think the South American drive is partly fuelled by a larger pool of talents, and reduced costings there.
Ultimately, the studios and the people still have to find a financial model that works for them, and can make a decent profit.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I think the South American drive is partly fuelled by a larger pool of talents, and reduced costings there.
Ultimately, the studios and the people still have to find a financial model that works for them, and can make a decent profit.

It's not just "a larger pool of talents" - it's the actual beauty range of those talents.

Take Lia Loci for example ( https://www.analvids.com/watch/2817236/ ... um_swallow ).

Fucking unreal.

A girl that looks like that (and she is pretty much 95% European looking) would never come through the doors of a European studio in this day and age. It would be impossible.

And if she did - she would have injection shots riddling her face - she would be tatted up from foot to scalp with what looked like the scribbles of a drunken twelve year old - and her tits would poke out the eye of whoever was misfortunate enough to open the door for her.

Lia Loci is a drop-dead gorgeous 9.5 - 10.5 /10 beauty who makes breathing difficult just looking at her fully clothed.

This is another golden age in porn.

And it's the South American studios pretty much carrying the torch.

misangrenegra2 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:This has been the case for a while now, probably a year or more? (...)
Gonzo shut down but is not Luis who manage Yummy studio? is just that he took the bussiness to south america on, i guess, the cost are lower but has a new bunch of guys and, more interesting, of new girls on is exploring new stuff as puking and food play.

Giorgio delegated the managment to Andrew who clearly reduced the number of releases per week.

Yummy, Mambo and EKS has a similar activity, also natasha still shooting content, as before but is not the same for LTP, NF, P4F or VK that clearly are gone (the first three), and VK doesn't release as before.

I really think that a reduction of production makes sense if we thought the rivality and the number of customers, i always thought that the offer was too much of the possible demand here..is a guessing, i don't have the numbers but were a couple of years with the 6-7 main studios releasing new scenes per day with the prices rising and the inflation.. how could be possible sell everything to everyone?

I agree with both of you especially for the reasons of a production slowdown, but with studios opening and closing it's way more complicated:
Yummy started in August 2020 and Gonzo closed in October 2023. So Yummy didnt replace Gonzo, Luis just stayed in South America mainly due to pandemia.

Pandemia made OF much more popular, but it also instigated a higher LP output. 2021 we had additionally to LP core studios Yummy, two big Russian Studios (first NRX, later also EKS) and additional GIO side studios. And we had N&F and PAF in Prague.
Also mid 2020 NTP started officially her own studio in Medellin; and in Autumn 2021 LTP opened after an NTP split. Colombian output doubled than for quite a time.

Looking back a hard blow was Putins invasion of Ukraine and linked high energy prices creating further inflation and the end of pandemia. And in 2023 Russian clampdown on local porn production leading to NRX closure.
OF stayed because consumers had been conned into direct contact with the girls (done by bots and/or in India usually), but Prague and also Medellin LP studios faced over-capacities with high base costs. Gonzo closed altogether, earlier already N&F closed and PAF retreated to Italy, than in Summer 2024 GIO passed core production on to Andrew X.
Similarely in Medellin, LTP closed and NTP reduced output.
In Russia all studios had to close bc. internal political reasons.
Only in Brasil thanks to Mambo Perv. hardcore anal production output went up.

EKS managed to move production 2024 to Romania, but since March they are on leave and one of their studs post today just makes me wonder whether they really resume shooting end of April as it was planned.

All these new studios popping out during Covid wouldnt have produced porn if they couldnt have sold it. But post-pandemic and in War things look different now. We also have to consider that OP for consumers is generally cheaper than classical porn use. I guess they get the harder stuff they still sometimes need for free, while core porn users are facing less and less production.
Mambo Perv. starting mid 2021 also in pandemic times shows that it's still possible to start a new studio and sell classical anal hardcore porn. But there is only 1 Mambo Perv studio.

misangrenegra2 wrote:I really think that a reduction of production makes sense....

Economically for studios maybe yes.
For me as a user I have too little scenes with sex acts I need to buy very often on a day-by-day basis.
For the girls I see more and more of them switching to escort tours with often heavy traveling. I cant imagine it's good to have no option left to earn what they need with porn only.

dap-addict wrote:

misangrenegra2 wrote:I really think that a reduction of production makes sense....

Economically for studios maybe yes.
For me as a user I have too little scenes with sex acts I need to buy very often on a day-by-day basis.
For the girls I see more and more of them switching to escort tours with often heavy traveling. I cant imagine it's good to have no option left to earn what they need with porn only.

"Maybe" economically for the studios and for sure for the users.

Is what i wrote sometimes here.

Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios but i would say that now is more probably that a user spend TKTs in more than a few studios.

With the Gio reloads and the break days of others studios you can choice something different and distribute your spend in more studios. Those days was quite crazy, almost 6-7 new scenes per day, a little bit more expensive than nowadays.. how possible and reasonable was?

The each user situation is different, doesn't know how much of them are a monster purchasers here, even myself being here almost a decade and i read how much scenes has some of the users, i'm consider myself in a middle point i guess.. and of course some of them also support others sites but even if i'm not a bussiness man, i can understand how strange and hard looked that everything """was""" supported.

I know that this is a very simple example but imagine a big city on each week at the weekend would be 4 - 5 music concerts always, would be reasonable that all them were complete? Something like that is what i think that seems happened, including of course your others explanations

misangrenegra2 wrote:Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios...

As I said, rising living costs lead to less scenes sold and studios reduced output or stopped completely, some of them driven out of the market by that sudden TKT price rise of April 2022.

Now from users POV if you fellow all those fights over side-fetishes like cloths, barefoot, food-porn etc. I doubt users even want to support all core studios, but they still need their porn fix. And you can see that studios specialize for certain market segments. Questions is is there enough choice on days like today (with 3 single annals (1 of them naked) and 1 DAP scene) or couldn they sell more if they would offer more?

dap-addict wrote:

misangrenegra2 wrote:Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios...

As I said, rising living costs lead to less scenes sold and studios reduced output or stopped completely, some of them driven out of the market by that sudden TKT price rise of April 2022.

Now from users POV if you fellow all those fights over side-fetishes like cloths, barefoot, food-porn etc. I doubt users even want to support all core studios, but they still need their porn fix. And you can see that studios specialize for certain market segments. Questions is is there enough choice on days like today (with 3 single annals (1 of them naked) and 1 DAP scene) or couldn they sell more if they would offer more?

About first paragraph, the situation didn't change too much, in economic terms (a little bit better for the users as i wrote in the trump victory's thread), so would be normal to the studios keep the current situation of the productions.

About the second one; I consider too the cloths or barefoot as side-fetishes but i don't think that are something "too much decisive", puke/food play, even pee, are more strong fetishes that catch an audience of an specific market, the result is how piss is so common when was extremly rare and how food porn has an specific series in yummy studio but..people only buy one specific fetish? i don't think so, are a part of the anal core here and the last question i think you answered yourself: If the studios are in the current situation because they reduced the production when before offered more scenes than today.. makes sense comeback to release 1-2 or 3 scenes per day, satisfying particular fetishes, for each studio because they could sell more? I don't think so.

real_savings wrote:LP was at its apex when they had May Thai, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Cindy Shine, Ria Sunn (now retired). Other than some of the South American girls, I don't even click on the trailers. Really don't like the abusive stuff, its too extreme for me, and the girls take couple of days to couple of weeks to recover from the trauma. If you don't look after the assets they move on

true! They should rename the site to ppp.com. Prolapse, piss, puke
It's just disgusting and not sexy. I always wonder why anyone finds it hot to see girls being beaten, pissed on, puking, with feet in their mouth.

You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .

Puke is disgusting and I hide it from my feed.

There is no way i'm buying this shit

misangrenegra2 wrote:

dap-addict wrote:

misangrenegra2 wrote:Was, really, there enough demand to support the whole offer offered those days? Even now i would doubt that each user can support the whole main studios...

As I said, rising living costs lead to less scenes sold and studios reduced output or stopped completely, some of them driven out of the market by that sudden TKT price rise of April 2022.

Now from users POV if you fellow all those fights over side-fetishes like cloths, barefoot, food-porn etc. I doubt users even want to support all core studios, but they still need their porn fix. And you can see that studios specialize for certain market segments. Questions is is there enough choice on days like today (with 3 single annals (1 of them naked) and 1 DAP scene) or couldn they sell more if they would offer more?

About first paragraph, the situation didn't change too much, in economic terms (a little bit better for the users as i wrote in the trump victory's thread), so would be normal to the studios keep the current situation of the productions.

About the second one; I consider too the cloths or barefoot as side-fetishes but i don't think that are something "too much decisive", puke/food play, even pee, are more strong fetishes that catch an audience of an specific market, the result is how piss is so common when was extremly rare and how food porn has an specific series in yummy studio but..people only buy one specific fetish? i don't think so, are a part of the anal core here and the last question i think you answered yourself: If the studios are in the current situation because they reduced the production when before offered more scenes than today.. makes sense comeback to release 1-2 or 3 scenes per day, satisfying particular fetishes, for each studio because they could sell more? I don't think so.

It's true that there are key fetishes that make a scene sell. These include piss, but also rough sex with multiple elements of domination (spitting, slapping, neck grabbing, gapes, deep throat, very hard anal penetration, etc.), but without reaching the extreme style of domination seen in AGO. Scenes that include all these elements tend to sell quite well. However, there is audience that is unable, or at least has a very hard time doing so (Dap-Addict, for example), to buy scenes where the woman is mostly time naked during the scene,which is a very rare fetish, but Giorgio took it upon himself to promote it, since it's also Giorgio's fetish. There are also users who can't see any clothing on women most of the time, such as Liko. Personally, I never buy scenes that cover the female torso during the DP/DAP/TAP in cowgirl position, because that's my favorite part of porn scenes and I believe that the female body should be seen in all its splendor. Although I have no problem with seeing women wearing only black stockings WITHOUT GARTER BELT and black shoes: in fact, that's how I like it the most and I don't understand why Andrew X stopped filming girls like that. Now Andrew X keeps covering women's torsos, which I find ridiculous.

Therefore, I almost never buy scenes from Giorgio and AGO, since most of the time the woman is wearing lingerie with a garter belt, or a crappy skirt that covers her waist, or tacky clothes, or a shitty bra, etc. So, in part, it is a determining factor whether it is clothes or nudity, since there is a demanding audience in both directions. Unfortunately, Andrew X and Angelo have focused on just one group of users, which means that if EKS disappears from Bucharest, as seems likely according to DAP-Addict (Apparently I wasted my entire time on my biggest post to improve EKS scenes), it means that no more gangbangs with piss content and naked women will be filmed in European Analvids studios. Unless, of course, Andrew X and Angelo decide to film for all users and not just Dap-Addict, Dylan and others with that fetish, of course.

What turns one person off, can equally turn another group of people on.

The filtering system on here is getting quite good. The AI to suggest scenes that you would like is also quite strong.

There is enough variety on here for you to find something that you would like.

Zeok wrote:...if EKS disappears from Bucharest, as seems likely according to DAP-Addict (Apparently I wasted my entire time on my biggest post to improve EKS scenes)

Zeok, here I can give you an all-clear: EKS will soon resume their shootings in Bukarest.

add: Btw, I never claimed EKS Bukarest would disappear! I was just really worried about their long and longer Spring break. And in case of doubt: I pay an EKS subscription and as you write, indeed, they show naked girls during their gangbangs.

dap-addict wrote:add: Btw, I never claimed EKS Bukarest would disappear! I was just really worried about their long and longer Spring break. And in case of doubt: I pay an EKS subscription and as you write, indeed, they show naked girls during their gangbangs.

Yes, I know you didn't say that. It was just my assumption. Thanks for the info!

it's impossible for me not to be pessimistic.

BR_Razor86 wrote:You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .

shut the fuck up and drink a bowl of piss! Nobody asked you about your opinion, you moron.

lp_stars wrote:

BR_Razor86 wrote:You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .

fuck yourself you stupid retard

There is truth in what he says - but you have to take some nuance to it.

Two dudes rubbing their cocks in a hole really is kind of gay - and there are indeed a lot of people for whom that is a turn off and they will never buy the scenes because of it.

But that's still a fraction of the total number of people who steer way clear of this place because of all the gross out shit (pissing particularly).

So, he's not wrong theoretically, just technically.

99.5% of the market buys dry content, in some form or another, or content that doesn't involve pissing or pooing or going to the bathroom on people. Because 99.5% of the market aren't that mentally ill.

Even though it's slathered in almost every scene on this site (because the scenes that shoot for the site are automatically associated with pissing anyways - so might as well grab the sales from the audience that actually does come here) - that doesn't reflect the wider industry as a whole.

If you stood up in any public forum - and said, "Peeing on people is gross," nearly 100% of the people present would agree with you.

If you stood up at the hovel of the mentally-ill and socially dysfunctional and said, "Peeing on people is gross," the overwhelming response would be that you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about.

But those people are still mentally ill and socially dysfunctional. And they only do represent a tiny fraction of society overall. You just happened to stumble into their hide-out, is all.

lp_stars wrote:

BR_Razor86 wrote:You just saying don't make these scenes cus you don't like it but it's not important to you if other ppl enjoying watching this.
To some other ppl it's disgusting to watch two or three dudes rubbing their cocks in one hole , actually to them it's just GAY. So yeah it's so simple to use your stupid logic against you . Dry version is for stupid fucks like you .

shut the fuck up and drink a bowl of piss! Nobody asked you about your opinion, you moron.

also nobody asked for your stupid opinion if we could call that bs an opinion lmao. whining like a lil bitch why theres piss in there while you can simply buy and watch dry scene and you won't lose anything about that scene by buying and watching the the dry scenes, except girl drinking pee on pee shower . so i dont get why dumbfucks like you complaining about this . At worst, you'll lose 10 or 15 minutes of a 80 min scene . still waiting for your stupid logic and opinion about cocks rubbing and how this is exciting for others . now fuck off to your bed and cry more bitch boi.

hyapet wrote:

lp_stars wrote:fuck yourself you stupid retard

There is truth in what he says - but you have to take some nuance to it.

Two dudes rubbing their cocks in a hole really is kind of gay - and there are indeed a lot of people for whom that is a turn off and they will never buy the scenes because of it.

But that's still a fraction of the total number of people who steer way clear of this place because of all the gross out shit (pissing particularly).

So, he's not wrong theoretically, just technically.

99.5% of the market buys dry content, in some form or another, or content that doesn't involve pissing or pooing or going to the bathroom on people. Because 99.5% of the market aren't that mentally ill.

Even though it's slathered in almost every scene on this site (because the scenes that shoot for the site are automatically associated with pissing anyways - so might as well grab the sales from the audience that actually does come here) - that doesn't reflect the wider industry as a whole.

If you stood up in any public forum - and said, "Peeing on people is gross," nearly 100% of the people present would agree with you.

If you stood up at the hovel of the mentally-ill and socially dysfunctional and said, "Peeing on people is gross," the overwhelming response would be that you're wrong and you don't know what you're talking about.

But those people are still mentally ill and socially dysfunctional. And they only do represent a tiny fraction of society overall. You just happened to stumble into their hide-out, is all.

[mentally ill] huh? lets scratch that off the insult list .i bet you think your wrote a good one . rite?
since we are in a extreme/hardcore porn forum All users on this forum are considered perverted and mentally ill in some way. some less and some more . so theres not much difference between us . with public standards you talking about you also mentally ill since you enjoy watching girls getting gangbaned and taking 2 or 3 cocks in her ass at same time .
the only difference is im not shy about my fetishes even in public and im not even joking .

i really like to know where the fuck did you get that 99.5% from!? you kinda funny . here is your credit

sharpsharp wrote:Puke is disgusting and I hide it from my feed.

There is no way i'm buying this shit

Agreed on the puke being disgusting. I wish Yummy would release some of the P-Slut scenes without the puke as some of those scenes has some really great performers.

ElJab78 wrote:

sharpsharp wrote:Puke is disgusting and I hide it from my feed.

There is no way i'm buying this shit

Agreed on the puke being disgusting. I wish Yummy would release some of the P-Slut scenes without the puke as some of those scenes has some really great performers.

Totally, it's impossible for me to enjoy puke, not a chance, i've got one scene from Larissa Leite, who is an amazing performer and it was a big no, just thinking about it is disgusting, it turns me off big time.

For me puke is big selling point

dap-addict wrote:

misangrenegra2 wrote:I really think that a reduction of production makes sense....

Economically for studios maybe yes.
For me as a user I have too little scenes with sex acts I need to buy very often on a day-by-day basis.
For the girls I see more and more of them switching to escort tours with often heavy traveling. I cant imagine it's good to have no option left to earn what they need with porn only.

This is exactly my problem as well.
I like plain vanilla piss scenes don't care if it's one on one or even a gang bang.
Anal creampie and piss in ass is an added bonus for me.

However with reduced scenes getting released, the number of scene that are to my liking has gone down considerably.

Barely one or two scenes that I like get released in a week and thats just 4 to 8 scenes a month. Definitely way less than what I was getting before.

However like I said can do anything about it really and just hoping that things improve.

They're dying...and it's well deserved.

hyapet wrote:But that's still a fraction of the total number of people who steer way clear of this place because of all the gross out shit (pissing particularly).

Perhaps I can introduce you to the concept of a target audience? LP is a hardcore site. Extreme porn and hardcore content has always been its corner of the market. Even before it was LP they were stuffing whipped cream up girls asses for sineplex. Targeting a specific area of a market is how the majority of businesses operate. LP isn't brazzers or vixen - it never has been and never will be. I don't like pee and I don't like puke, I avoid those scenes and buy the dry versions. But LP caters to that area of the market, and their production is still *significantly* higher than virtually every mainstream vanilla studio out there. So, can't be doing too badly can they, relative to others.

But sure, if only they could get rid of the hardcore stuff and only hire supermodels to finger themselves then they could compete with the likes of OF. Maybe when you're done here you can join kink and offer them pearls of wisdom like how they'd be so much more popular if only they didn't shoot so much bdsm. Maybe join throated too, surely they're filming too much head? Then you could subject their patrons to the same pompous idiocy that you inflict on anybody here who's unfortunate enough to lay eyes on it.

This is probably the worst year in the history of porn. I thought that in the wake of the war between Russia and Ukraine there would be a flood of amateur young Russian girls who would want to go into the industry even just for a few scenes to make a quick buck and would even be willing to do brutal scenes like in 2008 but it turns out that it's only getting much worse.

Things where so good even a year ago.

Pee scenes with piss in ass and Anal creampie where being released on a very frequent basis.

Guess all good things must come to an end.

BR_Razor86 wrote:[mentally ill] huh? lets scratch that off the insult list .i bet you think your wrote a good one . rite?
since we are in a extreme/hardcore porn forum All users on this forum are considered perverted and mentally ill in some way. some less and some more . so theres not much difference between us . with public standards you talking about you also mentally ill since you enjoy watching girls getting gangbaned and taking 2 or 3 cocks in her ass at same time .
the only difference is im not shy about my fetishes even in public and im not even joking .

i really like to know where the fuck did you get that 99.5% from!? you kinda funny . here is your credit

It's really a scale. You're right - watching a girl take three gigantic dicks in her ass at the same time and wince in pain for us to watch - definitely gets put on the scale of "sumting ain't right here."

There are technicalities to it all - to keep it simple - at least that act is the act of actual sex, however grotesque a deviation it may be - it's still an act of actual fucking.

When you start going to the bathroom on people - that's when things cross an eerily creepy line. No longer is it about pleasure - but rather - sadism. Now - the joy is in watching somebody lose their dignity and get humiliated. It's at this point that you're definitely deep diving into the socio - dabbling into the psycho - path range of things.

The 99.5% figure actually undersells it. Studios here are paying models between $500 and $2000 a performance - between the handful of studios still actively producing content. OF by contrast has billions of dollars changing hands - with some girls walking away being multi, multi, multi millionaires. It's a different game entirely.

By put the .5 at the end of the 99, I was doing this place a favor. Realistically, based on sales, it's somewhere closer to 99.999999%.

jjwhite1985 wrote:Perhaps I can introduce you to the concept of a target audience? LP is a hardcore site. Extreme porn and hardcore content has always been its corner of the market. Even before it was LP they were stuffing whipped cream up girls asses for sineplex. Targeting a specific area of a market is how the majority of businesses operate. LP isn't brazzers or vixen - it never has been and never will be. I don't like pee and I don't like puke, I avoid those scenes and buy the dry versions. But LP caters to that area of the market, and their production is still *significantly* higher than virtually every mainstream vanilla studio out there. So, can't be doing too badly can they, relative to others.

But sure, if only they could get rid of the hardcore stuff and only hire supermodels to finger themselves then they could compete with the likes of OF. Maybe when you're done here you can join kink and offer them pearls of wisdom like how they'd be so much more popular if only they didn't shoot so much bdsm. Maybe join throated too, surely they're filming too much head? Then you could subject their patrons to the same pompous idiocy that you inflict on anybody here who's unfortunate enough to lay eyes on it.

You're missing the point. I already discussed all of this before, but reading wasn't your thing, so you completely missed the lesson. I'll try to summarize as best I can.

Much like the scale exists for how deranged somebody is for having a particular "kink" (re: mental problem) - that scale also exists for the acts unto themselves. There is a lot more nuance to it than, "EVERYTHING is hardcore BDSM!" Or, "EVERYTHING is vanilla cam-girl porn!"

Using your analogy - the way your mind works - you would be asking throated why they don't have people pissing into their faces. Or kink why they don't have scat in their sets. To you EVERYTHING passed a single solitary line automatically involves pissing - and everything on the other side of it is your most basic vanilla porn.

While, believe it or not, you may be right in a sense, it's not in a way that favors your argument.

Double anal porn could very well exists in a realm closer to what you would find on brazzers - in so much so - that brazzers would have become more comfortable with shooting double anal scenes - than it ended up being. What did it end up being? In the same pool as piss, and puke, and just a whole bunch of gross out shit.

What caused this? Legalporno - the brand holders of all double anal porn - decided that every set had to include pissing. And don't give me this "dry version" bullshit. Nobody ever watches the shorter version of any movie. The dye was cast. Double anal was equated with pissing. The well was poisoned.

On the scale that was previously mentioned - double anal went from being (theoretically) placed right next to DP and ordinary one on one porn - into some bizarro, fetish-filled, mentally-ill, gonzo-extraordinaire realm of fucking freaks and loopers.

After this happened - no one was coming back. The overwhelming majority of the market that watches porn to get off to sexy people having the sexy on their screens weren't going to be coming to a site where the end-goal was the humiliation and dignity destroying acts carried on out on the actresses.

Did you ever wonder why OF has a no pissing rule? Because they want the highest return possible on their investment. They don't want to advertise themselves as a playground for the mentally ill - they want people who engage in the act of sex - not degrading themselves with swallowing stuff that belongs in the toilet.

So, while OF is making billions of dollars, the studios here operate on a month-to-month basis. That isn't my opinion. Those are the actual numbers.

So - NO - the scale of acts on the porn meter isn't divided into two camps where on the one side you might see the rim of a pussy lip - and on the other people are getting pissed on while regurgitating puke. There are actually spaces in between.

And how you ignore this fact, every single time I bring it up, like for the past thirty times I've done so, is an admittance on your behalf that I'm right. This isn't rocket science.

The number of people who would've eventually gotten a taste for double anal porn is most likely huge. And that number was never fully explored - because the mentally ill monkey of pissing was jumping around in a rage in every fucking scene the site produced back in the day. So much so, that people labelled this place "that site," and the people who went here as, "those people." And those aren't good qualifiers to have.

Because people don't want to go to that site, because then they'll be considered to be one of those people.

See how that works?

See how that only makes too much sense?

rakdobi wrote:This is probably the worst year in the history of porn. I thought that in the wake of the war between Russia and Ukraine there would be a flood of amateur young Russian girls who would want to go into the industry even just for a few scenes to make a quick buck and would even be willing to do brutal scenes like in 2008 but it turns out that it's only getting much worse.

This isn't the worst year in the history of porn. That was last year. This year - the South American studios are fully taking over.

They got really hot girls coming through the doors of Yummy EStudios, Natasha Teen Productions/Lancelot Styles, and Mambo Perv.

On top of that - Erika Korti Studios and Andrew are doing everything they can to make the most of the dire circumstances to be found in Europe at the moment. And they are producing some fucking good scenes. Lore Hot at EKS today? Fucking money. Andrew's past few scenes were absolutely on point as well. Those are [/I]good scenes[/I] he shoots. And then you have AGO contributing as well.

Yeah, the Russian girls are gone. And that is indeed a megalithic shame.

But that doesn't wipe out what everyone else is doing. They've finally gotten their shit together. They're shooting with consistency and the girls they're bringing in are actually miles ahead of what we found here last year. Is it perfect? No. But when they do bring in some hot girls - even if it's only for the past few scenes - I gotta recognize that and change the tone accordingly.

Gotta call it like it is.

I really don't care about latinas to be honest, and if that's what Erika did to her studio, she could shut down completely