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the user Chimpy.677 and the porn actor Oscar Batty say the male actors are as important as the female actress in a porn scene

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what do you think about it?

Chimpy.677 wrote:I say this, because the male actors are as important as the female model in the scenes

Oscar Batty wrote:

isis666xxx wrote:you are dellusional

male actors as important as the female actress???? HAHAHAH

I think you do not know what you are talking about. Have you ever been in a professional porn set. Without professional male actors you won't have any scene like you have on this site period.
Good male actors are VERY important.

pffffff dont make me laugh

a porn video with a fat ugly girl and high quality male actors is shit and not hot
a porn video with a very hot girl and a old fat guy is high quality and hot

dont try to compete with the female actress in importance because you are way less important than her
shes the base and the core of the scene

It's different but essentially, yes.

The attractiveness of the girl(s) - which isn't necessarily purely down to aesthetic beauty, sometimes it can be a "vibe" - is of course what makes you gravitate towards a scene. No-one realistically scrolls down the clips on a porn site based on the guys.

However....whether a scene then delivers on its female-led promise absolutely depends on the quality of the guys and their performance. If any of them are out of shape/unattractive etc. then it kills the spontaneous feel of any scene. It's then hard to believe that the girls are into it for the sex. But also, the guys' behaviour can make or break a scene. Porn fans have different tastes but for me I want the guys to fuck hard without any ego or annoying behaviour. My bar is quite low here as you can tell if you check my posting history. I won't repeat all of that but I hate manhandle and guys killing a girl's heat by being angry or overly aggressive.

So yes, it's absolutely true. The roles are different and the guys don't need to provide "wow" factor in the same way that the girls do (for me, they are best when you sort of don't notice them) but of course they are equally important. It takes 2 (or more accurately with porn, anything up to 20) to tango.

Yes, what vulture said, they are important but in a different way. You're right that nobody watches porn for the male talent, but they're essential to make a scene work from a practical point of view. They need to be able to fuck well, maintain wood, and have a good working relationship with the female talent in order to end up with a scene that's watchable for the audience. It's not that easy to find guys who can do all of that, which is why you often see the same guys appearing across multiple professional studios - they need guys they can rely on or the production doesn't get off the ground.

isis666xxx wrote:the user Chimpy.677 and the porn actor Oscar Batty say the male actors are as important as the female actress in a porn scene

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what do you think about it?

They are both right.
This said the girl and her looks are still the main sales point.
So one could argue that the girl is more important in a porn scene, even though without good studs the scene actually failed. But in this case the not properly fucked girls stays and users will hope and/or ask for another pairing with capable studs.

I absolutely agree that male performers are as important as female performers.

Obviously, they are not there to titillate heterosexual viewers, and they are not the main reason for people watching but their endurance, strength, charisma and character all go to make a good scene into a great one.

I'm sure all of us have had the fantasy of being on a porn set and getting stuck in but it's actually a very difficult job. Not only do male performers have to keep wood but they must also ensure that the angles are correct so that it looks good on video.

Beyond this, they've mustn't get too excited and come too soon.

As they say, "it takes two to tango."

This Guy opens up topics and brings you examples of one that looks like a Vogue model and one that looks like she ate a hot dog stand, are you really going to argue with him? Seems useless to me.

It's about the success of the scene, not what draws you to see it.

Of course I want to see a pretty girl (no offense to the chubby girls) but just because she looks good doesn't mean I'll enjoy seeing the scene If the guy can't function. I'm more likely to enjoy the scene if she's not the prettiest girl, but the guy knows the job.

In my opinion the girl is number 3 in the success of the scene, after the actor and the director, a director who knows how to guide well and who gives latitude to the actor, will contribute much more to the success of the scene whether the girl is beautiful or not

i think the vital contribution studs make to the overall quality of any scene is often hugely undersetimated.

i'm not sure i would go so far as to say they are 'as important' as the model. i've often bought scenes by models i follow even if the male talent is a bit below par, purely because i wanted to see my favourite model in action. but i wouldn't buy a scene starring a model i have no interest in purely because of the quality of the studs' performances

but underperforming studs can definitely make a great model look bad, and reduce what could have potentially been a really memorable scene (all other factors in place, model looked and performed at their best, director really on form, set and styling fabulous) to just a *whatever* scene (the kind that you only buy if there is nothing competing for your tickets that weekend)

and by the same token, if the studs are really on fire and at the top of their game, they can get a 'career best' performance out of a model who has never really been given a chance to shine before (due to poor casting or poor directing decisions), and suddenly the whole world wakes up to a model that they had completely disregarded up to that point

so good or bad male talent can absolutely make or absolutely ruin a scene. and a lot of why we love some of the models we do is also do to the fact that we so often seen them paired with a great team of studs and directed by a models who knows how to get the best out of them.
and wise models know when they are part of a winning team, don't take that opportunity for granted, and do their best to make the most of those scenes when they come their way

the models are why we are all here, and it's the models and not the studs that most of us follow. but no model is an island, and that shouldn't be forgotten either

DOG'S DINNER LEVEL TYPOS!

so good or bad male talent can absolutely make or absolutely ruin a scene. and a lot of why we love some of the models we do is also due to the fact that we so often seen them paired with a great team of studs and directed by a professional who knows how to get the best out of them.
and wise models know when they are part of a winning team, don't take that opportunity for granted, and do their best to make the most of those scenes when they come their way

look for example this scene

his big cock is hot and all & hes important
but the girls are far more important than him

with a smaller cock and worse actor it would still be very hot too

if you are a male actor and you want to be as important as the girl
then go do gay porn
because in straight porn shes far above you

For me, the question is not whether they are or are not, but whether they can do the job. That is all that matters. Only then will they be important in the first place.

I keep seeing videos where an incompetent and incapable male actor is to blame for the fact that the whole video is rubbish. The guy fuss too much, is way too aggressive, ignores the girl's reactions, does everything like a robot, chooses positions that are bad for the camera, doesn't know how to fuck properly when being under a girl in anal sex, he doesn't have a proper erection(sees constantly), makes too loud noises instead of keeping his mouth shut, during anal constantly puts his hand on the girl's pussy and thus covers it from the viewer(that really pisses me off) and finally, Which is downright incomprehensible, and you see surprisingly often these days, the guy practically doesn't give a drop of sperm or just enough to see even something.

Then again, I've never seen a video ruined by a girl!

The studs are obviously as important as the girl if the girl is a pro slut. The studs need to have big hard cocks and the energy to match a real slut so the fucking is hot and intense.

That said, the studs are more important if the slut is new and awkward or just not dynamic, because the studs need to have the right attitude to fuck some energy into the scene.

Personally, I have some male talent whose scenes I will always give a watch because I know they are going to put any slut, new or pro, through her paces and give her a real good fucking. I even have some studs I will watch depending on the kind of energy I want to see in the moment.

If you watch two scenes with the same slut but different studs, you will notice a difference, so maybe that proves that male talent is MORE important...but at the end of the day, I'm not tuning in to whack off to a dude, so the slut is always the most important factor.

Very interesting question.

They are in fact more important. Their performance can make a scene three times hotter. If they are living out my fantasies, then even scenes with an ugly female performer can be alluring.

yes they are in many ways for me. For instance, if I want to see a rough scene with a lot of energy or with a dominating guy the male performer is not interchangeable, you can't put a passive guy who's just there with no enthusiasm or passion. Or, if like me you are into scenes with age difference between performers, I like to see a mature woman with a guy who's like 18, 19 year old FOR REAL instead of some grown up man pretending to be a teen, and on the other hand I like scenes where the teen girl is paired with the mature man who's in his sixties or seventies. That's also why I like to see the faces of both performers and I dislike scenes where the camera guy tries desperately to hide the face of the guy.
And different guys have different styles, passion and energy. So the guy makes all the difference in the world for me in many cases exactly as the woman for making a good scene. Which doesn't mean that if there's a girl that doesn't interest me at all I'm going to watch because I like the male performer.

zadypy wrote:different guys have different styles, passion and energy. So the guy makes all the difference in the world for me in many cases exactly as the woman for making a good scene. Which doesn't mean that if there's a girl that doesn't interest me at all I'm going to watch because I like the male performer.

The girl is always the first catch, but her pairing with stud(s) is crucial actually!
I lost so much money buying a scene for the girl, but finding out she's not fucked with the passion and power I want her to be fucked. Or her stud is simply too small of cant shoot a decent load at the end.
Meanwhile I know the studs better and that helps a lot, but with Russian and Colombian studs for instance I am still lost a bit too often.