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The BTS footage from the most recent Gonzo Xmas scene is an epic 4 hours 20 minutes, so I'm not sure many other people will have sat through the whole thing - but did anyone else catch the exchange with Proxy Paige in which there was mention of some of the girls being disappointed there would be no DAP due to some kind of ban in France, where apparently some lawmakers are claiming the act amounts to 'torture'? Sure enough, if you go to the Gonzo studio and filter the DAP tag, there haven't been any scenes featuring DAP since December. I know Gonzo is supposedly defunct, but they still seem to be pumping out scenes on a near daily basis since then (I guess working through their backlog).

Anyone heard anything else about this supposed 'DAP ban', and is it likely to affect any other studio?

Crazy!
Which time tag in BTS is this conversation about DAP and France?
Sure is DAP is much better payed than DP.

I was wondering myself why so little DAP in an absolute cult goodbye scene? Also that could be an explanation why Gonzo in Summer-Autumn shot clearly DAP-able girls in DP only. Latest DP instead of DAP is todays Nuria Millan scene (sz3116: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/835830)

Wait so this whole time Gonzo was a French studio? I really thought it was Czech, like GIO's studio.

And if it's true that DAP is against the law in France can we just have more French girls doing DAP? It just makes it more appealing now that is illegal there. Can we just book Alba Lala for a bunch of DAPs?

Seems random for government censors to just think Double Anal is not acceptable in their porn while gangbangs and anal gaping and fisting are.

That is ridiculous to brand DAP sex as torture....it is almost laughable.

There are quite a lot of people who enjoy it.

Maybe next is hetero sex being ruled out all together!
Anyway, I first need a time tag to listen what Proxy Page is really talking about in that long BTS.

Never heard of that. Probably a misunderstanding.

I’m no fan of DAP in particular. You guys love it and I don’t mind delivering on that for you, but it’s not my cup of tea. Having said that, as long as it’s performed responsibly, it is definitely not “torture” for anybody.

dap-addict wrote:Anyway, I first need a time tag to listen what Proxy Page is really talking about in that long BTS.

It's at the 2 hour 50 minute mark - Proxy is in conversation with Baby Kxtten and Rebel Rhyder.

Thanks a lot, Dave!
I'll check straight away now, but I also think it's a misunderstanding. This said former Gonzo owner had a strong connection with France and maybe some legal reasons lure behind the fact that they shot much less DAP in Summer-Autumn 2023 even when girls were clearly DAP-able. In this context I also remember Max Born tweeting that Gonzo closed for a 'stupid reason', whatever that be.

FREEZE - It's the DAP Police!

davebowman wrote:...there would be no DAP due to some kind of ban in France, where apparently some lawmakers are claiming the act amounts to 'torture'?

It's minute 2.50 to 2.51 and Proxy, Kxitten and Rebel discussing with the girls holding roses. Proxy claims the rules of X-mas scenes had been changed and Kxitten couldnt fist maybe Rebel anymore as she did it in 2022. Then they talk about DAP which apparently according to Rebel is doomed 'torture' in France. Also Proxy brings up France, but she hopes DAP can still be shot for the X-mas scene.
Judging by the tone Proxy could be joking, but Rebel sounds dead serious.
Actually 2 DAPs have been shot for sure in that X-mas 2023 scene: Anna de Ville and Mells Blanco. If they have 2 why they didn't have 10 DAP?! - Only reason I see at hand is $$$ being invested into that scene because DAP fee is much higher than just DP fee. This said it's very strange Kxitten didnt get DAP-ed even though in BTS it sounds like she really wanted DAP.

As for the fisting mentioned along DAP not being allowed by the new rules in France anymore apparently: There is a shot fisting session at min 70-75, mainly self-fisting, but some g/g fisting as well. No male fisting at all.
GIO which is also distributed in France doenst take such precautions!

dap-addict wrote:

davebowman wrote:...there would be no DAP due to some kind of ban in France...

If they have 2 why they didn't have 10 DAP?! -

Here is the 100% confirmed DAP scene of sz3102 (https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/794419), Mells Blanco is very distant in back of camera and not very visible.
Does less than 1min of DAP for Anna de Ville make zero DAP in France?

davebowman wrote:FREEZE - It's the DAP Police!

The policeman has to be French an arrest Luca and Freddy here at one because they are torturing that girl at 93th min!
Btw, I was wrong about no male firsting - here it is thanks to Luca Ferrero's initiative!

I am French and have no idea what you guys are talking about
I follow French porn from the garbage produced by Marc Dorcel to the amateurs like FàPoil, J&M and pros like WCX but also watch all radio & TV talk shows and don't know why you come up with that claim that there's a French law cataloguing DAP as torture and hence banning DAP

Is that a thing in ex-Soviet countries to invent stuffs and make it a fact

Buck_Meister wrote:I am French and have no idea what you guys are talking about
I follow French porn from the garbage produced by Marc Dorcel to the amateurs like FàPoil, J&M and pros like WCX but also watch all radio & TV talk shows and don't know why you come up with that claim that there's a French law cataloguing DAP as torture and hence banning DAP

Is that a thing in ex-Soviet countries to invent stuffs and make it a fact

Good to know that this isn't true. If a DAP is already too much that would be really bad for porn.

I was really wondering and shaking my head in disbelieve!
But then both Proxy and Rebel mentioned France.
They must have believed that rumor or information probabely coming from somebody important in that shooting or financing of that scene.

dap-addict wrote:I was really wondering and shaking my head in disbelieve!
But then both Proxy and Rebel mentioned France.
They must have believed that rumor or information probabely coming from somebody important in that shooting or financing of that scene.

When it would be real than all the things in porn that are fun would disappear in France.

Still the question remains why Gonzo X-mas 2023 is so tame compared to previous issues, why it has so little fisting and even less DAP?
Something seems in the bush, some order from top management. And also still Kxitten, Rebel and Proxy are taking about it! But what's the reason?

dap-addict wrote:Still the question remains why Gonzo X-mas 2023 is so tame compared to previous issues, why it has so little fisting and even less DAP?
Something seems in the bush, some order from top management. And also still Kxitten, Rebel and Proxy are taking about it! But what's the reason?

I understand that some people think that it could be true because lots of French porn is shot with condoms so it can be shown on Pay TV I have read.
But strange that it is quite tame these year because fans of this website love porn without any limits.

I wonder if it has anything to do with this?

"The 150-page report, which features interviews and testimonies of actors, sociologists and associations, focuses on the sexual violence perpetrated and conveyed by the pornographic industry...The report states clearly that the government must lead the charge against the excesses of the porn industry and that the fight against this violence must become a "public and criminal policy priority."...The report released yesterday puts forward 23 recommendations, including strengthening legal arsenal to better protect actresses, the recommendation to "make sexual violence committed in the context of pornography an offence of incitement to a criminal offence"

https://www.euronews.com/culture/2022/09/28/hell-behind-the-scenes-french-senators-present-a-damning-report-on-the-porn-industry

In France people are very versed to the fact that lobbies exist everywhere from antiporn associations brain washing public opinion to Condom manufacturers pressuring their local porn market to render latex compulsory on scenes (while everybody knows PCR works perfectly as an alternative to condoms)

Trials exist in France questioning and establishing facts pertaining to consensuality and whether protection of minors has been breached period
That's all there's to it
There is zero probability that a ban as ludicrous as a DAP ban be effective in France... the latter would be the last country to impose such a liberticide law

I'm french and I have no idea if true but more and more scenes are getting hidden from my feed so I now use TOR to check AV news scenes.
France has always been bad at regulating porn anyways so I won't be surprised.

What's heartbreaking is that the French have been known for being very sexual. All their films have a lot of erotica. They also have Paris which is the city of love. And they are known for progressive classic liberal ideals. So anything that involves "banning" or "censoring" anything is a big stab at the free thinking image they had been trying to build for so long.

And when they start with banning things where does it stop? Will anal gaping the next thing that is banned? Are anal gangbangs considered extreme? It is very bad to ban certain things in porn. The condom rules for showing porn on TV in France are already ridiculous.