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So I saw that there were strange dots in the beginning and throughout legalporno videos. I began to wonder!

The dots are hard to see because they only appear for 1 frame duration. Videos typically play at 30 frames per second, so these dots only appear at 1/30th of a second. They are usually at the beginning of scenes you download, but they also appear throughout the rest of the video.

I finally realized that this is Legalporno's new antipiracy technology. Let me explain my theory:

1. Every you stream or download a video, Legalporno servers add a unique set of dots to the video you are downloading. By unique, I mean to say that the position of these dots is like a barcode on a product that you buy, and that barcode corresponds to your account.

2. If you illegally distribute a legalporno video, the dots in the frames of the video will act like a barcode to which will link the illegally distributed videos to your account.

3. Legalporno will then know the identify of the person that is illegally distributing their material.

The thing about this technology is that it's probably very computationally intensive to add random barcodes every time someone watches a video.

Therefore, the higher the resolution of the video, the more computing power you will need to generate the barcode.

I predict that this will require a lot of computer power from legalporno.com, a lot more than normally hosting a website.

Weaknesses:

1. People will use stolen credits to distribute LP material. Even if legalporno identifies the culprit, they'll be blaming the victim of credit card theft and won't actually be able to catch the real culprit.

2. People can have their passwords stolen, so and they might download the videos for malicious purposes without the account owner's knowledge.

3. Piracy helps businesses make money. This may seem counterintuitive, but it's actually true as this study explains: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... make-money.

I'm interested to hear Legalporno staff and user comments on these issues.

SecurityGuy

They've been doing the stuff with the dots for a while.

But, LP should must to make a copy of every downloaded video? the downloads start instantly.
Intresting theory.

It seems very unlikely that a 'uniquely' generated user id is added to the videos.

The computational requirements to re-encode each file on demand is to imense and only very large streaming services would have the means to do so.

There are ways to transcode video data on the fly for streaming services, but this happens for live streaming, so as the data comes in it is being processed (requires a ton of processing aswell).

Youtube does it for each file, but if you ever uploaded a large high quality video there you will notice that it takes ridiculously long and they probably have the most processing power of all to back their system up.

What is more likely to happen here is that these 'dots' represent a unique ID for the video itself rather than for each individual user, to make it identifiable by automated mechanisms. This would only require a single re-encode of each file.

This being said, a file containing a unique ID which can be traced back to a specific user would cause more harm than good in the end and might get legit users banned who have become victims of theft themselfs, as you stated in your post.

Certainly a year ago, the system was such that each user received a unique copy. On adding to the pronbox you had to wait a few minutes fir your copy to be encoded and it contained frames with a code number rather than the little squares (which looked far more obtrusive - i have redownloaded all such scenes because of it).
Clearly such an encoding delay is not present now so one if two scenarios must be the case:
1) we are no longer getting individually fingerprinted copies
2) encoding (of multiple copies) is taking place in advance and the system simply assigns you a copy and associates the specific file ID to your account.

I suspect the latter is what is happening.

Using Stolen Credit cards is a bit harder too because of the attestation you need to do. Also they seem to have pretty strict IP check too, that if someone logs from another country that the user has been logging the past, the account gets locked up pretty quickly.

SecurityGuy wrote:So I saw that there were strange dots in the beginning and throughout legalporno videos. I began to wonder!

The dots are hard to see because they only appear for 1 frame duration. Videos typically play at 30 frames per second, so these dots only appear at 1/30th of a second. They are usually at the beginning of scenes you download, but they also appear throughout the rest of the video.

I finally realized that this is Legalporno's new antipiracy technology. Let me explain my theory:

1. Every you stream or download a video, Legalporno servers add a unique set of dots to the video you are downloading. By unique, I mean to say that the position of these dots is like a barcode on a product that you buy, and that barcode corresponds to your account.

2. If you illegally distribute a legalporno video, the dots in the frames of the video will act like a barcode to which will link the illegally distributed videos to your account.

3. Legalporno will then know the identify of the person that is illegally distributing their material.

The thing about this technology is that it's probably very computationally intensive to add random barcodes every time someone watches a video.

Therefore, the higher the resolution of the video, the more computing power you will need to generate the barcode.

I predict that this will require a lot of computer power from legalporno.com, a lot more than normally hosting a website.

Weaknesses:

1. People will use stolen credits to distribute LP material. Even if legalporno identifies the culprit, they'll be blaming the victim of credit card theft and won't actually be able to catch the real culprit.

2. People can have their passwords stolen, so and they might download the videos for malicious purposes without the account owner's knowledge.

3. Piracy helps businesses make money. This may seem counterintuitive, but it's actually true as this study explains: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the ... make-money.

I'm interested to hear Legalporno staff and user comments on these issues.

SecurityGuy

they have no comment actually. just wait and see the services about to be offered and you will understand why such a system brings value to other the content owners... the guys behind it are real Web Masters and understand the importance of balance, so better to wait for the results and not looking for some debate/comments. the most important thing is conversions with such a system. i am sure they have been doing this for years and perfecting the workflow for high conversions

I was wondering what the annoying pixelation was that I see throughout Legalporn videos! I figured it was a corrupt download at first, especially because if you download the exact same file again, the dots appear in different places. But, I guess it is part of the encoding that Legalporn uses. Kinda sucks we have to see it in the videos though, along with the gigantic watermarks :-(

the guys behind it are real Web Masters and understand the importance of balance

I hope it is the joke. Those guys fuck up something on each update of site. Number of complaince about site functionality is enourmous. And now they speak about some Digital Rights Management "state of the art" technology ??? Sites like DDF,21Sentury, Evil Angel... exists many years and do not use any DRM. They put money in user experence improvement and not in some DRM systems. Legalporno have best content in the market , they just can't bring it to customers without problem. please first improve this and only after this talk about DRM .

JOhnym

I don't know what your concern is regarding DRM here.There is no copy protection, personal usage restriction or online authentication required with the video files you download here - they are simply mp4 files the same as any other. The ONLY difference is that the odd frame has a series of boxes, most of us presume to identify each copy downloaded by us as unique (and so to catch anyone sharing via torrents or filesharing sites red-handed).
The flashing boxes are mildly irritating (although only about 1% as irritating as the f***ing watermark stuck far out from the corner) and, I contend, maybe flash on a little more regularly than they need but I suggest to you they are a minor inconvenience.
Personally speaking, I value the original content they make here, including the amount of scenes that will cost more to produce because they feature more than one girl, double anal, pissing, kreme etc. If this measure reduces piracy sufficiently to make producing such content viable, when it doesn't appear to be for sites without either attestation or such digital stamping, then i suggest to you that they are things we are just going to have to suffer. Either that or watch the material dry up.

PS: Evil Angel's website appears to be run by cunts. They have farmed their web operation out to famedollars who have misled me on the two occasions i have had to deal with them. 21S and DDF both appear to run on the Brazzers premise of just keep churning out largely formulaic stuff and marketing well enough that even if 90% of their material viewed is via pirated channels they can still survive. It is obviously a model that can work if you keep your material largely middle of the road but if your audience is a little more select it sounds like a recipe for an unsustainable website.

just my thoughts.

I do not have any problem with DRM. It is just looks like Legalporno put they resources not in fixing problems in they site but in DRM. Companies far more professional then Legalporno try to use different types of DRM and at the end do not use it at all.

johnym wrote:I do not have any problem with DRM. It is just looks like Legalporno put they resources not in fixing problems in they site but in DRM. Companies far more professional then Legalporno try to use different types of DRM and at the end do not use it at all.

DRM is just a pain for legal paying users. Many companies go this way which seems to be the trend with legalporno also. Worse service, higher prices, fuck the customer.

bundeswehr wrote:

johnym wrote:I do not have any problem with DRM. It is just looks like Legalporno put they resources not in fixing problems in they site but in DRM. Companies far more professional then Legalporno try to use different types of DRM and at the end do not use it at all.

DRM is just a pain for legal paying users. Many companies go this way which seems to be the trend with legalporno also. Worse service, higher prices, fuck the customer.

Whats your gripe? what happen now? The system is working the customers are getting their content there might be 1% that they lose because of the antitheft, but in the end they will be able to deliver the highest quality in content. i would not bet on the others to follow they cant afford to miss the sale... Sineplex has always made a point to shoot the best content while protecting its value as much as possible. Thanks to the loyal customers that have been forgiving and Sineplex delivering consistent high quality content it worked.

This model is not for every studio to follow its a very hard process to adapt to a current business model with this economy... users are now in power to see the difference between good and bad content and can make better choices with all the free content out there.

If you have still some unresolved issues send me a PM message so i can look into it

PC_82 wrote:

bundeswehr wrote:

johnym wrote:I do not have any problem with DRM. It is just looks like Legalporno put they resources not in fixing problems in they site but in DRM. Companies far more professional then Legalporno try to use different types of DRM and at the end do not use it at all.

DRM is just a pain for legal paying users. Many companies go this way which seems to be the trend with legalporno also. Worse service, higher prices, fuck the customer.

Whats your gripe? what happen now? The system is working the customers are getting their content there might be 1% that they lose because of the antitheft, but in the end they will be able to deliver the highest quality in content. i would not bet on the others to follow they cant afford to miss the sale... Sineplex has always made a point to shoot the best content while protecting its value as much as possible. Thanks to the loyal customers that have been forgiving and Sineplex delivering consistent high quality content it worked.

This model is not for every studio to follow its a very hard process to adapt to a current business model with this economy... users are now in power to see the difference between good and bad content and can make better choices with all the free content out there.

If you have still some unresolved issues send me a PM message so i can look into it

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When I try to send a PM to you I get a "requested user does not exist". Neat.

bundeswehr wrote:Error 503 Service Unavailable

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When I try to send a PM to you I get a "requested user does not exist". Neat.

Please follow up in viewtopic.php?f=68&t=7234 . Your issue will be solved - there was major update last week that did speed up sites load time for all users best confort, and unfortunatelly you suffer from bug related, apologies for that. Each update is tested by many testers before we put it online, still there are some circumstances where we have to fix afterwards, unfortunatelly. Your feedback is essential for us.

So this new old´´Agreement´´ is against piracy?... Produce scenes for not release them, and now don´t allow downloads? What´s next? Be buried with the unreleased videos?

Just curious, how does Xxx reconcile the fact that he is one of the biggest pirates in internet history, with trying to keep his own website pirate proof.

If piracy is so immoral, I wonder how xxx justifies Xvideos.com

http://www.examiner.com/article/free-sp ... tube-sites

If xxx wanted to recompense wouldn't he shut down XVideos.
Even now I can find pirated context on xvideos.

http://www.quora.com/Who-owns-and-opera ... tube-sites

XXX has propably made millions of dollars off of Xvideos through adds.

http://www.xvideos.com/video9082555/per ... s_personal
Naughty america being pirated.

http://www.xvideos.com/video7601395/jen ... k_free_tee
http://www.xvideos.com/video348347/hot_ ... _and_wiska

It's funny xxx is the one of the biggest pirates, and also a anti-piracy crusaders. Pretty funny stuff.

It might interest you to know that several LP videos are available in full on Xvideos. I won't provide links, but they're there. That doesn't sound like something XXX would like.

He is not the "biggest pirate" in Internet history. His users do the pirating. Xvideos itself actually has copyright detection mechanisms that other tube sites lack. They're obviously not foolproof, but they're there.

I'm not saying it's 100% kosher, but tube sites are a reality of the industry these days. Most of the major studios own a few. Brazzers' parent company owns an entire network of them.

, coming soon a pack 55 scenes will be released in russian tracker , the guy is using a exploit on pornbox

And you know this because... ?

heisenberg5 wrote:XXX , need to improve the anty piracy system, coming soon a pack 55 scenes will be released in russian tracker , the guy is using a exploit on pornbox

Bullshit! That´s old news.xxxxxxx scenes were pirated weeks ago, 55 exactly.Do you join this site just for say that shit?

Symbalar wrote:Bullshit! That´s old news.xxxxxx scenes were pirated weeks ago, 55 exactly.Do you join this site just for say that shit?

No , this are sineple (no in xxxxxx) videos

Symbalar, you seem awfully knowledgable of what has and hasn't been pirated recently for someone who constantly criticizes XXX for being the "biggest pirate"...

That´s cuz´ I had lots of interactions with you, so you infected me with your pirate soul.

Symbalar wrote:That´s cuz´ I had lots of interactions with you, so you infected me with your pirate soul.

Obvious deflection from the point made.

Lies. Anybody can compile 100 GB of SP/LP pirated scenes from 9 years and months ago.Stop trolling.

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If you know of security flaws report them. You will be paid for it.

rudocursi wrote:

A scene that was purchased with your account ended on torrents that's why you are now barred from buying more.

This argument isnt sufficient to block them, the accounts can be easy bruteforced with Sentry and jump the "Device confirmation" with a android virtual machine and fake device id .Later when try download a video it will say "Here is a problem detected" , no problem , using injection SQL it let the download .
The site security not is perfect ,the legitimate costumer are not liable for the deficiency on your site.

> the accounts can be easy bruteforced with Sentry

bruteforce protected by captcha

> jump the "Device confirmation" with a android virtual machine and fake device id

Attacker should forge not random, but exact device attributes, which was previously registered for attacked account.

> Later when try download a video it will say "Here is a problem detected" , no problem , using injection SQL it let the download .

hypothetically, even if attacker will find vulnerability in system to bypass security checks and download content,
this will be visible in logs - that content was downloaded from new ip with new client attributes.
All locked users verified for these attributes before they are locked
to make sure, that their account wasn't hacked using unknown deficiency on our site.

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Why editing your post? Write your own name here if you like, not others. Seeing your manners I highly doubt you are here to help.

IMO i think pirating will always occur as their is many ways to do it.

rudocursi wrote:why edit my post?
How much money is if i show a working method ?

dan:

bruteforce protected by captcha

proxys from same contry with a limit of 5 atempts

Attacker should forge not random, but exact device attributes, which was previously registered for attacked account.

Here are a secret

this will be visible in logs - that content was downloaded from new ip with new client attributes.

manipulating the tables does not register

> proxys from same contry with a limit of 5 atempts

this will not work, you can attempt to try this approach and figure out yourself why

> manipulating the tables does not register

manipulating tables is only 1 step to the goal.
theoretically, if there would be SQL-injection hole, it may be possible to perform manipulations in database, which in conjunction with other steps would grant you permissions for downloading,
but when you will initiate downloading, all requisites of client will be sent to independent log which is atomic with downloading process -
you either download file with logging, or do not downloading at all

If there wasn't money in this world everything would be easier.

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You can PM Dan.

I don't understand how LP scenes are still getting pirated even with the attestation and strict security LP uses. How are these guys doing it?

This past week a whole bunch of pirated LP scenes were made available for free on various websites. And this is not the first time this happened, it happened before several times this year.