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Maybe it´s important to think about the reasons why people complain more and more?
Also, why previously loyal customers gone because of those reasons and became freeloaders?

Discussions about AVs death can be annoying, but the problem is:
Nobody give a shit to constructive critisism, especially you, XXX! From the customer´s perspective, you seem to give a shit on everything. You turned the site into a payed tube-site where every idiot can upload 10 similar versions of him fucking his dog, and tagging it with "straight", filmed with the 1st iphone in a dark room, pricing it with 30 TKT. And every month, re-releasing the scene as "new/old" version.

No-one is reacting on crusial findings and aspects - like...
- the "old-version" fraud (NF-studio, Anal Teens, RPSN)
- the failed content tag/filter system (Gay/Transcontent producers dont use it properly) to get max. attention
- the movies which appear as "new" scenes but are available on your tube site for free with the long version, uploaded by your admins

Of course people freak out at some point and protest in their ways... What is not clear about that?

And before you say to me I should go fuck myself: I spent hundrets of € on this site (I think 2000-3000€ alltime), but because of the mentioned reasons, my loyalty decreased drastically, plus because of individual preferences. I think I have a fucking right to say what I think on this site, even if I buy only 1 scene per month nowadays.

I can understand him first post, that thread, and others,everyone can find how the people are constantly complaints, some of them more accurate, other just for hate, there are things to improve, this is something quite clear, but the point is too that create missinformation of what it the real situation, that are my conclusions.

The seconds post don't think is directly to you, he can see who is a real costumer or not, if you spend or spent money here, is something that he can see, but the truth is that there are some users that don't support NOTHING, and they just download the scenes from pirate sites and have the balls to come here demanding things when they are watching FREE him product, if no ones support that place, they will not nothing to leech, that is him point.

I know that his critics was not referred to me personally, because he definitely can see what I have in my pornbox and when I bought the videos. And I know there are idiots you mentioned in your respond. But what I said in my post was, that (I´m pretty sure) a specific amount of loyal customers decreased/decrease the support because of the problems I mentioned. And fixing those problems could increase the satisfaction and userbility here. Ignoring it is stupid... especially the "old version" fraud... People who spend money on those old versions, dont spend the money for studios which play fair. At the end, the winner is the "old-version"-studio, only. Florane Russel´s studio "NT-studio" is dead as fuck, but they still edit some seconds of old scenes new and release the bullshit as new releases. Giving them money is same like throwing it out of the window... you will not get back anything for it! The problem here is, some customers might dont know that those scenes are old, because they would need to search a little deeper.

If they would know, they would rather pay the money for scenes from GIO, GONZO, etc. Studios which still release content quite frequently. They deserve this money, not the fucking fraud studios I mentioned in my first post!!!

Plus, people pay attention on userbility today more then in the past. That´s why Apple, Google and Youtube are succesful. Legalporno (former sitename) was clean as a 14-years old teen asshole some years ago. Now, it´s like a fucking cheap tubesite. Sorry for my language, but look at the landing page. I have to block and ignore studios every fucking day...

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:(I´m pretty sure) a specific amount of loyal customers decreased/decrease the support because of the problems I mentioned. And fixing those problems could increase the satisfaction and userbility here. Ignoring it is stupid... especially the "old version" fraud...

I have decreased my spendings for a number or reasons.
Landing page is a small problems for me, but on contrary lack of communication is. I am also still resentful for that unheralded price rise (ticket devaluation) of April 2022 and the way it was explained afterwards. There are a lot of issues, but most in customer-producer relation goes back to communication or a lack of.
If we didnt have Giorgio Grandi here explaining some things again and again I might have gone long ago. This btw doenst mean I always buy his explanations, but at least he is taking to us users and taking us seriously.

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:I know that his critics was not referred to me personally, because he definitely can see what I have in my pornbox and when I bought the videos. And I know there are idiots you mentioned in your respond. But what I said in my post was, that (I´m pretty sure) a specific amount of loyal customers decreased/decrease the support because of the problems I mentioned. And fixing those problems could increase the satisfaction and userbility here. Ignoring it is stupid... especially the "old version" fraud... People who spend money on those old versions, dont spend the money for studios which play fair. At the end, the winner is the "old-version"-studio, only. Florane Russel´s studio "NT-studio" is dead as fuck, but they still edit some seconds of old scenes new and release the bullshit as new releases. Giving them money is same like throwing it out of the window... you will not get back anything for it! The problem here is, some customers might dont know that those scenes are old, because they would need to search a little deeper.

If they would know, they would rather pay the money for scenes from GIO, GONZO, etc. Studios which still release content quite frequently. They deserve this money, not the fucking fraud studios I mentioned in my first post!!!

Plus, people pay attention on userbility today more then in the past. That´s why Apple, Google and Youtube are succesful. Legalporno (former sitename) was clean as a 14-years old teen asshole some years ago. Now, it´s like a fucking cheap tubesite. Sorry for my language, but look at the landing page. I have to block and ignore studios every fucking day...

The decrease of loyal customers was, mainly, to the TKT devaluation that D-addict talks, including the explanations and the lack of communication, even if only Gio spend some of his time to respond, is quite less than before in general. Others because of the content, that looks bored and includes a lot of piss.

I have to say that i don't buy all that i want because of the TKTs prices, but doesn't looks that this gonna change..even the life is more expensive.

About the substudios of NF and LTP, yes, i'm not agree with that strategy to make look an scene as new, mainly for costumers who are here for no more than one year ago that doesn't have the big picture of the site are the perfect bait. Kapwn answered in one thread that is something legal, so we cannot do nothing. NF doesn't shoot since almost 2 years? they could just reduce the prices of the old scenes and make an adverstisement to impulse some sells, same thing to LTP, but they still shooting.., they could reduce some old content and advertise the costumers with some kind of discount.

In fact.. why PB doesn't have that kind of interface? can be useful to impulse some extra sells.

misangrenegra2 wrote:The decrease of loyal customers was, mainly, to the TKT devaluation that D-addict talks, including the explanations and the lack of communication, even if only Gio spend some of his time to respond, is quite less than before in general. Others because of the content, that looks bored and includes a lot of piss.
I have to say that i don't buy all that i want because of the TKTs prices, but doesn't looks that this gonna change..even the life is more expensive.

- Due to piss its abount preferences... it´s a trend right now. I dont like it either, but it will gone, too like all other trends. They come and go, maybe old trends will come back which I like more - so I dont have a big problem with that
- The fact that everything got more expensive is also a problem we cant not deal with, you have it everywhere and you have to live with that.
- But the TKT-conersion, lack of communication are things which could get better if everybody would be interested to improve that.

misangrenegra2 wrote:Kapwn answered in one thread that is something legal, so we cannot do nothing.

I totally disagree. It might be legal in terms of laws, but there could be company policies which could forbid or boykott this behavior. Scenes could be reported by users and get deleted. Studios could get warnings and get blocked if such behavior will remain. I mean, if all studios would do that... how annoying and overloaded would pornbox look like?

dap-addict wrote:I have decreased my spendings for a number or reasons.
Landing page is a small problems for me, but on contrary lack of communication is. I am also still resentful for that unheralded price rise (ticket devaluation) of April 2022 and the way it was explained afterwards. There are a lot of issues, but most in customer-producer relation goes back to communication or a lack of.
If we didnt have Giorgio Grandi here explaining some things again and again I might have gone long ago. This btw doenst mean I always buy his explanations, but at least he is taking to us users and taking us seriously.

+1
Giorgio is a real diplomat, even if I had some beef with him in one chat I think with his mindset and his awareness of quality and customer orientation the "top management" could make things better if they were like him.
Regarding the ticket devaluation it is just sad...

You expect far too much professionalism and transparency from a business that is far too shady and questionable for that.

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:- Due to piss its abount preferences... it´s a trend right now. I dont like it either, but it will gone, too like all other trends. They come and go, maybe old trends will come back which I like more - so I dont have a big problem with that
- The fact that everything got more expensive is also a problem we cant not deal with, you have it everywhere and you have to live with that.
- But the TKT-conersion, lack of communication are things which could get better if everybody would be interested to improve that.

I totally disagree. It might be legal in terms of laws, but there could be company policies which could forbid or boykott this behavior. Scenes could be reported by users and get deleted. Studios could get warnings and get blocked if such behavior will remain. I mean, if all studios would do that... how annoying and overloaded would pornbox look like?

What happened with piss is something to do a study. Step of be a small niche with a very few scenes to be the main fetish in each scene, included in the majority of the main studios.. for be only a trend, is quite stablished since 2020, the year when that content started to be produced more and more at the beggining and, in the last part of the year, stablished almost like currently.

To be honest, is something that doesn't bother me and is not something that i requiered but there are a few things that i like but i recognize that trends to stop the action too much in some acts.

Don't know what could change this, maybe introducing another niche to test the customers and, if sells better, just change piss for the new one.

My point is that i consider quite difficult currently see a change.

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About the TKTs: There have been a lot of discussion, its surprise me that currently there are yet complains, was what it was, better or not, they did it, i doubt a lot expect something about what happened, they gave their explanations.

More relevant is the current system, TKTs more expensives, scenes more expensives and memberships obsolete in terms of how much TKTs we recive, the discount applied is something good to be a "premium" customer but we recive a very LOW quantity if we compare the prices currently, in the past you could buy around 8 scenes, now no more than 3.

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I keep my last post of the situation with that studios, is not something illegal. I think is right inform in the thread of the models when scenes like that are released, there is no reason to apply that strategy, if you, as a studio, wants sell old content, make an announcement applying a discount in the price, if a scene cost 7 TKT, just make them cost 5 or 4'5 TKT, surely some people will buy them because buy old content that still being expensive is not something that we expect.

There are many positives. We are getting great porn from Russian and Colombia. If the only studios left were Czech I can see that to be a problem, but luckily that's not the case. I don't know what happened to Czech Republic, their studios used to resemble the output of Russian studios, but not anymore. Not to mention flagship studios like GIO are overpriced, but they are free to do whatever they want, I don't have to buy it if I think the price is ridiculous.

The site has turned into shit, there is a lot of all kinds of fagots on the main page, especially fagots, scenes are released with the same actress (NRX), they fuck the same actress for 3-4 scenes, I would like more newcomers, but as for the price, it’s fucking inflation and the situation in the world gives a jump in price

Paizal wrote:You expect far too much professionalism and transparency from a business that is far too shady and questionable for that.

Why should it be shady? It´s part of GTFLIX TV s.r.o, Krakovská 1366/25, Nové Město, 110 00 Praha 1, Czech Republic.

I dont think I expect too much, because years ago things were different.

YuriyProneBone wrote:There are many positives. We are getting great porn from Russian and Colombia. If the only studios left were Czech I can see that to be a problem, but luckily that's not the case. I don't know what happened to Czech Republic, their studios used to resemble the output of Russian studios, but not anymore. Not to mention flagship studios like GIO are overpriced, but they are free to do whatever they want, I don't have to buy it if I think the price is ridiculous.

Yes I agree, but in this thread it´s not about positiveness, we have other theads for that, but because of problems which are mentioned often and again and again. And nothing change...

Relative to other porn offerings, Analvids models are ugly.

When you compare websites, side by side,
outside of the AV bubble, to it,there is no comparison.

That's not really the worse part.

AnalVids camera work is unintelligent, it's terrible.

So it wouldn't matter if the women were easy to look at,
because I would just be rolling my eyes at the director incompetent "camera work".

But wait, there is more, because on top of that,
to elevate Analvids to dogshit levels of quality,
you have to waste your life away, sorting at
literal hundreds of overpriced, worthless videos.

But I keep my eye on you in case you wisen up and walk back, all the bullshit.

not hating.

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
Why should it be shady?

Why? Because no one is watching this business. What happens when a professional actor or athlete is harmed? He talks to his union. Do the girls have a union? Does anyone monitor if it's all done properly? Does anyone care if girls are beaten or raped on the set? The porn business has always been run by shady backyard pimps and you expect professionalism and transparency from them?

Paizal wrote:

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
Why should it be shady?

Why? Because no one is watching this business. What happens when a professional actor or athlete is harmed? He talks to his union. Do the girls have a union? Does anyone monitor if it's all done properly? Does anyone care if girls are beaten or raped on the set? The porn business has always been run by shady backyard pimps and you expect professionalism and transparency from them?

I think you have a lack of information how porn is produced today. The girls have the best conditions nowadays. If a small little shit make them uncomfortable, they leave the industry and work on OF or other sites for their own. We already have examples. Or they do escorting. I´m not an expert, but I think working for AV studios like Gonzo/Gio is the safest and most profitable way to earn money with porn for the girls. And a very strong marketing channel.

Paizal wrote:

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
Why should it be shady?

Do the girls have a union? Does anyone monitor if it's all done properly? Does anyone care if girls are beaten or raped on the set?

Social media is the new 'union'. Seriously - have you not been on Elon Musk's website (that we are banned from mentioning by name)? If an actor or producer is accused of something by a girl, the story instantly gets spread amongst other models and their career/studio can be wrecked in 24 hours. See what happenned to Heaven POV getting cancelled a few months back as an example, but there's loads of it going on. I see people getting blacklisted all the time.

There are a lot of shady practices in the porn business - but when it comes to professional studios, I think more of it is aimed at exploiting the viewers than the talent.

I love PB/AV/LP tbh. It has its periods of ups and downs, some of which are out of their control. There's no point in complaining unless it's constructive, which means providing some kind of proof that there are sales incentives.