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LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:14 pm
by netzerkaiser
Using those rough dates, to those in the know, I put forward the theory which makes perfect sense to me, that if LP had been based in Budapest rather than Prague;

a) we wouldn't have seen half the Czech beauties LP acquired, particularly those who only did 1 or 2 scenes. Yes, surely the ones who made lots of scenes, like Linda Sweet would have done it anyway...

b) but the reverse coin is that I'd imagine we'd have had 10 times the Hungarian actresses more than did actually work for LP. This I think can be seen by the number of ladies who worked for PW, however briefly, but who never worked for LP.

I think it's a fascinating notion to imagine the Hungarian beauties that would have worked for LP, had head office been in Budapest. On the flip side, we wouldn't have had so many Czech beauties.

What you guys think?

Re: LP Prague | Woodman Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:20 pm
by misangrenegra2
What seems "fascinating" for me is how that man can have here the most replied and viewed thread in the forum instead of some of the models or other interesting threads.

Thanks to god they (admins) moved the thread to the Offtopic subforum.

Re: LP Prague | Woodman Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:20 am
by Panorama
misangrenegra2 wrote:What seems "fascinating" for me is how that man can have here the most replied and viewed thread in the forum instead of some of the models or other interesting threads.

Thanks to god they (admins) moved the thread to the Offtopic subforum.


Because it is literally the only place on the internet where you can speak freely about Woodman misangrenegra2. If it is as you say more popular than some of the model's threads I think it just goes to show that people are interested and moving it to the Off-topic sub-forum hasn't made it any less popular.

I know you're going to start having a go at me needing a life and being one of the worst perpetrators, and I agree with you. I probably am. But it is somewhere I can vent and try to show what a horrible character he is.

Sorry to have invaded your thread for a post but you can blame it on Woodman for pointing it out.

All the best.

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:54 am
by netzerkaiser
It's kind of my fault the way I phrased it, the only reason PW is mentioned is because I tried to imagine LP being based in Budapest, & he seems the only really active guy there in recent years.

Re: LP Prague | Woodman Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 4:06 pm
by misangrenegra2
Panorama wrote:
misangrenegra2 wrote:What seems "fascinating" for me is how that man can have here the most replied and viewed thread in the forum instead of some of the models or other interesting threads.

Thanks to god they (admins) moved the thread to the Offtopic subforum.


Because it is literally the only place on the internet where you can speak freely about Woodman misangrenegra2. If it is as you say more popular than some of the model's threads I think it just goes to show that people are interested and moving it to the Off-topic sub-forum hasn't made it any less popular.

I know you're going to start having a go at me needing a life and being one of the worst perpetrators, and I agree with you. I probably am. But it is somewhere I can vent and try to show what a horrible character he is.

Sorry to have invaded your thread for a post but you can blame it on Woodman for pointing it out.

All the best.



You don't have to apologize, i just that i can't understand how some users decitate a lot of time in that thread, the numbers of the thread are incredible if we think of who is that person, instead of propose ideas, critize, in good manners, some aspects of the site, talk about the scenes, talk in the models or fetishes threads are things more productive in my opinion.

I'm totally out of that kind of dramas and shows, i don't care nothing about that thread, in the past it was always in the top in the general subforum and move the thread was a good idea.

Of course, you and anyone that want to talk in there are totally free for do it, is not something that disturb me, doesn't affect in the forum in general terms and i don't, usually, visit the Off topic subforum, in fact i'm wasting some minutes to respond about that thread.

In summary: Each one can post when they want about anything.

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:29 pm
by netzerkaiser
Just to add, this is NOT where I wanted this to go.

I was more, would Cecilia Scott for example have appeared for LP if LP was set in Budapest?

I hope it's clear where I'm coming from, this has FA to do with PW, but more the talent-net of LP being situated in Prague past 10 years rather than Budapest.

I'm kind of looking at an imaginary situation, an alternative reality.

Re: LP Prague | Woodman Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:44 pm
by Panorama
misangrenegra2 wrote:You don't have to apologize, i just that i can't understand how some users decitate a lot of time in that thread, the numbers of the thread are incredible if we think of who is that person, instead of propose ideas, critize, in good manners, some aspects of the site, talk about the scenes, talk in the models or fetishes threads are things more productive in my opinion.

I'm totally out of that kind of dramas and shows, i don't care nothing about that thread, in the past it was always in the top in the general subforum and move the thread was a good idea.

Of course, you and anyone that want to talk in there are totally free for do it, is not something that disturb me, doesn't affect in the forum in general terms and i don't, usually, visit the Off topic subforum, in fact i'm wasting some minutes to respond about that thread.

In summary: Each one can post when they want about anything.


Thanks for the understanding misangrenegra2. Beleive it or not before I came across Woodman I never did forums, I have no interests that need them . . . especially porn. I'm actually a pretty normal guy otherwise, but I studied this guy for a while and he ended up really punching my buttons because the two things I hate on this planet are bullies and scam artists. This place fills a hole for me as I'm sure it does the other people who post there (although I think their anger is more personal with them being "in the business") But anyway.
Thanks for the understanding.
Sorry for swerving your thread off where it really shouldn't have gone netzerkaiser I'm returning to my dingy hole in the "off-topic" section! :D

Re: LP Prague | Woodman Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:03 pm
by Iddaoeeok
Panorama wrote:Because it is literally the only place on the internet where you can speak freely about Woodman misangrenegra2. If it is as you say more popular than some of the model's threads I think it just goes to show that people are interested and moving it to the Off-topic sub-forum hasn't made it any less popular.


Except, once you check the thread you see it isn't popular, it's just long. There are basically 4 regular posters who are responsible for over 90% of the content, probably about half of the posts are from Blue Shadow alone. Which is fine, if that's what those guys want to do with their time, but they're kidding themselves (or putting on airs and graces) if they think it's being read diligently by many forum members outside their echo chamber.

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:57 am
by backflipman
Hard to tell, but probably there would have been more hungarian beauties. I don't believe to an extremely high extend though, from what I have seen most of the "casual" porn girls were already out or done with porn in hungary at around 2010. The producer you mentioned already struggled at this time to even "cast" hungarian women.
I believe a lot changed when porn got more and easier to access through the internet. In the early 2000 you had various larger porn studios or companies, also the attitude towards porn has changed a lot over the years. If a women did a scene at this time the scene would be only on dvd, people would have to actively buy it and maybe producers didn't even publish the movies in the countries the models where from. It is also said PW used a similiar strategy to cast hungarian models by telling them the scene or site is blocked in hungary so their relatives, friends, neighbors or whoever won't be able to see them.
Nowadays every women is probably aware that if she shoots a porn scene people can easily find and watch it and may stumble their scene.

There are often discussions about new models and performers as it is of course exciting for us who love porn. It is always exciting to have something new, or you haven't seen before and a new model is the "easiest" way to accomplish that.
It is not only a question where you are based, but also how much work, money, time and effort producers put into finding new models. With a good network, less shady business and more transparency in porn agencies, modeling agencies and producers you could probably scout models everywhere you want.
I think the financial aspect is another limiting factor. When producers had a porn company backing them up, they could shoot models from russia in the U.S. South American models in europe and so on.
Yes there is stull stuff like that going on, but to a limited extend. I guess the CZ studios do or at least should coordinate if they want to offer a model a trip to prague. Shooting a couple of scenes for each prague studio in a given amount of time.

The past two weeks I had the feeling there were quite a lot of new models. I don't think it has been anywhere near that way the last 2 years. But even with new models it felt like the scenes itself were getting worse. It's like producers take one step forward, just to go three steps back somewhere else.
I don't know if it is just my sentiment or if recent scenes are really so dull, emotionless, repetitive, uninspirated and unexciting like watching the 10th rerun of a big bang theory episode at 1 AM.

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 5:26 am
by netzerkaiser
backflipman wrote:Hard to tell, but probably there would have been more hungarian beauties. I don't believe to an extremely high extend though, from what I have seen most of the "casual" porn girls were already out or done with porn in hungary at around 2010. The producer you mentioned already struggled at this time to even "cast" hungarian women.
I believe a lot changed when porn got more and easier to access through the internet. In the early 2000 you had various larger porn studios or companies, also the attitude towards porn has changed a lot over the years. If a women did a scene at this time the scene would be only on dvd, people would have to actively buy it and maybe producers didn't even publish the movies in the countries the models where from. It is also said PW used a similiar strategy to cast hungarian models by telling them the scene or site is blocked in hungary so their relatives, friends, neighbors or whoever won't be able to see them.
Nowadays every women is probably aware that if she shoots a porn scene people can easily find and watch it and may stumble their scene.

There are often discussions about new models and performers as it is of course exciting for us who love porn. It is always exciting to have something new, or you haven't seen before and a new model is the "easiest" way to accomplish that.
It is not only a question where you are based, but also how much work, money, time and effort producers put into finding new models. With a good network, less shady business and more transparency in porn agencies, modeling agencies and producers you could probably scout models everywhere you want.
I think the financial aspect is another limiting factor. When producers had a porn company backing them up, they could shoot models from russia in the U.S. South American models in europe and so on.
Yes there is stull stuff like that going on, but to a limited extend. I guess the CZ studios do or at least should coordinate if they want to offer a model a trip to prague. Shooting a couple of scenes for each prague studio in a given amount of time.

The past two weeks I had the feeling there were quite a lot of new models. I don't think it has been anywhere near that way the last 2 years. But even with new models it felt like the scenes itself were getting worse. It's like producers take one step forward, just to go three steps back somewhere else.
I don't know if it is just my sentiment or if recent scenes are really so dull, emotionless, repetitive, uninspirated and unexciting like watching the 10th rerun of a big bang theory episode at 1 AM.


Great post. Thanks.

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:18 am
by dap-addict
netzerkaiser wrote:b) but the reverse coin is that I'd imagine we'd have had 10 times the Hungarian actresses more than did actually work for LP.

Not sure, to no, to not at all.
Problem is 2012-14 Bp DAP going rate was crazy high and would have killed any new studio. Starting in Prague instead made thus perfectly sense for LP. DAP over there, just 7 hours or so by train was about half the price of Bp.

If they had started in Budapest they would never have become Europes leading hardcore porn providers.

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:59 pm
by netzerkaiser
dap-addict wrote:
netzerkaiser wrote:b) but the reverse coin is that I'd imagine we'd have had 10 times the Hungarian actresses more than did actually work for LP.

Not sure, to no, to not at all.
Problem is 2012-14 Bp DAP going rate was crazy high and would have killed any new studio. Starting in Prague instead made thus perfectly sense for LP. DAP over there, just 7 hours or so by train was about half the price of Bp.

If they had started in Budapest they would never have become Europes leading hardcore porn providers.


Thanks for profound insight. :cool:

Re: LP Prague | PW Budapest 2012 - 2017

PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:52 pm
by kuaheyden513
I always think that if Woodman should never tried to stop Legalporno so much we would never had all these crazy amount of anal scenes. All his hate fueled LP.