How important are gapes to you? (POLL)

[backflipman]

After the topic and poll about pissing, i thought about making another one about a different kind of action/fetish. I am just curious how important it is to you for a scene do have some good anal or even pussy or both holes gaping shots. Some people maybe annoyed by it, some love it or even maybe get frustrated if it is not focused enough in a scene.

I remember buying a scene with Lia Lin with BBC anal from pornworld and there wasn't a single gape shot not even in the bts and it was actually kinda frustrating. There seems to be also some differences in girls "gapeabilities" i am not sure whether it just depends on preparation or general anal training like it seems with Polly Petrova or Rebel Rhyder (probably the biggest and most impressive gaping active performers). Then some girls seem to have really good control about their butthole, like Nicole Black for example, you can see her focus on her face when she lets the hole open. Then other girls even though they are well trained and can do fisting/big toys/dap don't seem to be able to gape that much (for example Lydia Black)

Some girls seem to gape wider when they spread their butt themselves while others do when a male performer really spreads their butt open. Then there are scenes where the guys touch the butt but don't really seem to spread them more like just putting a hand on the trophy without gripping it (imo often in ltp scenes but also probably many other scenes)

And last but not least without blaming anyone or making up conspiracy theories, there may be the use of "helpers" to make anal scenes. Do you think they have an impact pro or contra wise (relaxing for more stretching or maybe numbing and paralyzing)?

[Chimpy.677]

It is one of the most important things there is, without it anal sex would be meaningless, it would be like vaginal sex. Also, the best thing is when the ass is shown before and after, the bigger the gap is, the better the scene is going to be, especially when it's a young girl of 18 or 19 years old with little or no anal experience, those are the best scenes.
La página se llama analvids, pero la gente está obsesionada con mear, nada tiene sentido, es como si se hubiera perdido la esencia del porno anal.

[misangrenegra2]

The gape section is essential for me, even something mandatory in anal scenes.

Luckily the basis to shoot an anal scene includes strictly catch a good view of the asshole, is quite rare watch an scene here that doesn't not capture fine the gapes, sometimes in some scenes i found a few gapes sections (e.g: If the scene had 20 gapes sections, maybe 2-3 are not captured fine) where the camera didn't take a good view, sometimes went late or the woman and guy just switched quickly the position.

I have a big fixation with the women's assholes(Asshole fetish), i love appreciate them in all ways possible. If the girl can make big gapes, better, i love watch how are opened and appreciate each detail of the anus and rectum, is a good signal that are being well fucked, some girls can't make big gapes but this doesn't mean i can't enjoy them too, also i include here gape farts and prolpase.

Each butthole show a different view and shape with a lot of details to watch, i love the gape section because the camera offers to the viewers the chance to check the asshole progress, also i love appreciate the different shapes takes during a scene and observe how the cocks, dildos, fists or whatever thing able to be inside of an asshole is sliding in it, is a masterpiece.

I think that my several post worshiping assholes during years is a prove that i love gape sections.

[zeusanalfreak299]

For me a big gaping asshole is the result of

- how experienced the actress is
- how relaxed she is
- how horny and willing to continue she is
- how filthy, dirty and slutty she is

And sometimes models look in the camera and seem to be proud to be able to do this. These moments are fucking hot.

Furthermore, it's the anatomical aspect which turns me on, if an asshole is capable to take big or many dicks for a long moment to result in a huge gape.

The only thing I hate is quick gaping all 10 seconds. I don't buy these movies. I prefer gaping all 1-2 minutes but for longer moments to enjoy the beauty of a huge gape and the models face if she is looking in the camera. It's the best.

[isis666xxx]

without it anal sex would be meaningless, it would be like vaginal sex.

what

sorry but thats dumb

[Dominuss]

I like the gapes (as wide as possible, no prolapse or rose buds, just the hole)

I wish there were more pauses for gaping. Like we get to see more of the "widening" process.

Camera work (close-ups) could be much better and patient. I like when the camera is so close you can hear the little farts or even the "wink" sound (if everybody keeps silent, but that's another "late" problem)

[backflipman]

the old style gapes are cool. The horrific bleeding, near or actual prolapse gapes of Giorgio Grandi and his ilk is disgusting and horrifying.


The French guy who made gape popular, he used the best lighting or whatever to show the gapes or he placed the hands differently so it was not distending and prolapsing the anus. It's really disgusting to see the guts of the woman. I think the ones who love prolapse are like latent serial killers or cannibals.

Yeah you probably mean Jean-Yves Le Castel who made the Assman series and the Debauchery series. Also he "invented" the "Guck mal", where the girls would do anal in reverse cowgirl and then get lift up and spread their cheeks open. It was actually these movies that got me into anal porn and especially gaping.
The girls were very beautiful and there were mostly new models in every movie. These scenes were just on a whole other level. Imagine this style of shooting today in 4k. No excessively lighted out studios, actual contrast, outdoor scenes or generally different and natural environments.
Also him having a soft dick at the start of the scene and getting actually horny and an erection from being excited and sexually aroused and horny to fuck a girl in the ass, is something you just don't see today anymore.

I don't think there are any or many natural erections nowadays in porn. And this scene script bullshit takes away the opportunity for the guys to just be horny and fuck the girl in the ass.

When it comes to prolapsing or winking or just gaping the butthole it is more about the girl. If the girl pushes it's more likely you will see the rose or inside, if the girl is able to just relax her butt muscles you are more likely to see a big gape. Or the girl can flex and relax her muscles intentional to do the winking.
So it's a lot about muscle control. I mentioned in my initial post that some studios may use something to numb the girls butt to make anal or dap more easier for her, but i am not sure if that also takes away the capability of controlling the muscles so it results in smaller gapes.

I wish there were more pauses for gaping. Like we get to see more of the "widening" process.
Camera work (close-ups) could be much better and patient. I like when the camera is so close you can hear the little farts or even the "wink" sound (if everybody keeps silent, but that's another "late" problem)

I also agree that there could be more pauses to see the gape progressing through the scene, also close ups are nice but having the complete view of the girl and the gape like in reverse cowgirl is also nice. Switching positions, guys changing or style of penetration changing without showing the gape really sucks.
Especially if a girl gets double anal then one guy goes out and the other stays in alone and then there is no gape shown really sucks.
Sound is also a good addition gape farts sure are hot and in some scenes there is like "plop" sound when the dick is taken out or when the guys is putting his whole dick in pulling out and going back in, back and forth you can hear that sound which is also hot and it lets you see the hole everytime he pulls out.

Poll seems to be a landslide towards gaping, i hope poducers and studios see that and let go of some of their fucking script to focus on what people really want to see.

[Pedrolito]

There is something magic about gaping. First time I saw it back in the 2000 (Still a teenager), I was kind of shocked : being used to mainstream porn, I had no idea assholes could get left open wide like this. But then, I wanted to see more, and I started devouring movies with big round asses getting stretched wide open. No doubt that for me, the Golden Age of Gapes started with the one and only King Of Anal : Jean-Yves LeCastel, and gracefully followed by Christoph Clark, Erik Everhard, and Raul Christian. Gorgeous looking women (not skinny teenage-like) getting their nice big butt stretched in a perfect wide o-ring (not those meaty sore assholes), specially the wide gapes displayed in the kuckmal and in doggy style when the guy spread the ladyies' cheeks wide while they bend over. The Golden Era ended with Jay Sin. The Giorgio Grandi has been doing a good job, but I still can't get used to his sterile-looking, almost clinical, pale-lighting. And most of the girls look like teenagers, whereas my dream women are like Jane Darling, Michelle Wild, Anita Queen... And they knew how to get gaped. The great series : Assman, Debauchery, Ass Wide Open, Euro Angels Hardball, Big Natural Tits, Anal Cavity Search, the PerfectGonzo stuff (Raul Christian era), and then most of Jay SIn stuff : Sineplex, Winking 101 in Russia, Gape Lovers, Lil' Gaping Lesbians...

[Pedrolito]

Too bad gaping pussies never really took off. I love to see the guy prying open the lady's pussy while she's bending over in doggy position, and show the big cave wide open, with the cervix at the bottom (not prolapsing or "pushing" her vagina meat forward). I even prefer it to gaping asses. Early Allinternal had some of it, specially when Mugur, Lauro Giotto and Frank Major were in charge. And a good quality displayed gape depends a lot on a skilled male (or female) performer who displays the gapes on purpose to the camera (which has to find the best shooting angle for a spot-on view), providinging the best view possible to the audience

[Pedrolito]

and yeah, please : more gape-displaying time on camera, longer closeups !

[dap-addict]

No doubt that for me, the Golden Age of Gapes started with the one and only King Of Anal : Jean-Yves LeCastel

Same to me, thanks for mentioning JYL!
I voted for 1st option, ie. shown and more important also celebrated gapes are essential for me. But sometimes meanwhile other things are more important. Anyway, I buy 90% of DAP nowadays and I am actually trying to get used to rosebuds also. Thus result might be a mixture, but gapes will always prevail in my porn consumption.

What I hate however are too many gapes and too short ones. That just disrupts a scene. Gapes should be celebrated and ideally show a progress, for instance the effect of the first single anal fuck to the last DAP position.

As for special lube mentioned by OP: Studios usually dont use it anymore beyond the 2% margin, but some girls do. Studios just cant control what the girls apply in bathroom, but video show true assfuck reactions and over-lubing girls dont help their career with true anal fans watching their workouts.

Btw, talking about anal gapes ofc only. I dont watch pussy sex at all, but I do enjoy girl finger and long fingernail or tips spread pussies a lot.

[paobroncix01]

Too bad gaping pussies never really took off. I love to see the guy prying open the lady's pussy while she's bending over in doggy position, and show the big cave wide open, with the cervix at the bottom (not prolapsing or "pushing" her vagina meat forward). I even prefer it to gaping asses. Early Allinternal had some of it, specially when Mugur, Lauro Giotto and Frank Major were in charge. And a good quality displayed gape depends a lot on a skilled male (or female) performer who displays the gapes on purpose to the camera (which has to find the best shooting angle for a spot-on view), providinging the best view possible to the audience

I agree. Since DVP became more popular, we did see vaginal gaping also more often as before, but it could be better and more common. The number one model when it comes to vaginal gapes is of course Polly Petrova, she did really make it her trademark. Polly is really an example of what could be possible. But also several other models are talented at it, for example Nela Decker.
At NRX they started to let the guys assist the female models with gaping their pussy, this is a very good initiative, but I think that a lot more is possible also here. At a few videos the guys at AGO did also assist the girls with their gape, but this did not really become common practice at AGO.
I think that considering the popularity of DVP, also pussy gapes would have potentially enough fans to make it commercially interesting. (I think AGO and NRX realize that already).
And as you said, we are talking about the traditional gaping, not prolapsing. It takes some skills from the guys, who are assisting the girl with her gape, and also from the cameraman to get the best shot. And of course, if the girl cannot gape it, just spreading it is also attractive.

[backflipman]

Too bad gaping pussies never really took off. I love to see the guy prying open the lady's pussy while she's bending over in doggy position, and show the big cave wide open, with the cervix at the bottom (not prolapsing or "pushing" her vagina meat forward). I even prefer it to gaping asses. Early Allinternal had some of it, specially when Mugur, Lauro Giotto and Frank Major were in charge. And a good quality displayed gape depends a lot on a skilled male (or female) performer who displays the gapes on purpose to the camera (which has to find the best shooting angle for a spot-on view), providinging the best view possible to the audience

I have to agree with you here as well, not that i prefer pussy over anal gape but gaping pussies are generally also hot. Aand well there are girls or scenes in which both holes are gaping wide, that's probably the champions league when it comes to gaping.
As paobroncix01 mentioned Polly Petrova has a huge pussy gape but also what i would call "double gape".

Also Rocky from the GG Exclusive Series comes instantly to my mind

Or Desire Moore probably the first and most noticeable "double gape" i ever saw.

[backflipman]

No doubt that for me, the Golden Age of Gapes started with the one and only King Of Anal : Jean-Yves LeCastel

What I hate however are too many gapes and too short ones. That just disrupts a scene. Gapes should be celebrated and ideally show a progress, for instance the effect of the first single anal fuck to the last DAP position.

As for special lube mentioned by OP: Studios usually dont use it anymore beyond the 2% margin, but some girls do. Studios just cant control what the girls apply in bathroom, but video show true assfuck reactions and over-lubing girls dont help their career with true anal fans watching their workouts.

Yep seeing the progress through the scene is really nice and just makes a lot of sense.

Thanks for the info on the lube, wasn't actually too sure how common it still is. I just happen to see some bts action where can actually see something with a small bottle applied. Also the coloring of the anus of the girl can reveal the use the appear like purplish/almost blue due to some changes of the blood vessels or oxygen supply.

Giorgio Grandi has been doing a good job, but I still can't get used to his sterile-looking, almost clinical, pale-lighting.

Yeah I agree, me and some others also mentioned the studio style. I don't know why this dentist room style of studio is so popular. And i am fairly sure the brightness in the room and overuse of light is also a reason you often don't just see a gape but can almost see the tonsils of a girl from the back

But yeah renovating a studio costs a lot of money. Trying to use light or reflectors less aggressive does not though. But it is what it is, could be better, but if it sells it sells.

[House MD]

Gaping pussies are way hotter than anal gapes, especially when you light up the vaginal cavity with a high intensity beam that shows the cervical gape

[dap-addict]

Thanks for the info on the lube, wasn't actually too sure how common it still is. I just happen to see some bts action where can actually see something with a small bottle applied. Also the coloring of the anus of the girl can reveal the use the appear like purplish/almost blue due to some changes of the blood vessels or oxygen supply.

Which bts?
You can see the typical anal sex lube process often enough in cut videos and most studios use usual common products. As for the inner tissue colors I wouldn't wanna interpret too much. You see irritated tissue with some girls which shows she might have got assfucked way too long or that she cant take a good pounding yet. It gives you a hint of her anal talent, but color shades sound too vage for me to draw further conclusions.

[backflipman]

Thanks for the info on the lube, wasn't actually too sure how common it still is. I just happen to see some bts action where can actually see something with a small bottle applied. Also the coloring of the anus of the girl can reveal the use the appear like purplish/almost blue due to some changes of the blood vessels or oxygen supply.

Which bts?
You can see the typical anal sex lube process often enough in cut videos and most studios use usual common products. As for the inner tissue colors I wouldn't wanna interpret too much. You see irritated tissue with some girls which shows she might have got assfucked way too long or that she cant take a good pounding yet. It gives you a hint of her anal talent, but color shades sound too vage for me to draw further conclusions.

It was on VK Studio Original Series which are also shot a while ago. One you could see it in the trailer and the girl would move away. I think i even read something about it on the forum but can't find the thread or remember the models name.
Other one is in https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/334482 at the 14 min mark of the video.

I wasn't judging the use of it in general though, i was more wondering what it effect towards gapes could be.

[stewpidaz]

I think this settles thing, this community fucking loves big gapes.

[Pedrolito]

Gaping pussies are way hotter than anal gapes, especially when you light up the vaginal cavity with a high intensity beam that shows the cervical gape

Hell yes ! We're definitely in the same team Like the early InTheCrack work. Also endoscope videos of the vagina cave like in PJ Girls (the Victoria Daniels, Licky Lex and Silvya Dellai are gorgeous). But again : clear wide open caves, not meaty folds.
Back then, I remember being spreading my girlfriend's pussy while she was in doggystyle to see her vagina cavity (she was a tall girl with a very flexible pussy). She told me "what are you doing, that's kind of weird". Then I answered her "well, spelunking !". She started to laugh, making her vagina queef and contract at the rhythm of her laughs. One of the sexiest memories I had with her. Too bad she never wanted to try anal...
Anyway, NRX and AGO are starting to display gaping pussies ? Do you have screenshots to see if it's worth the buying ?

[Pboxer88]

the old style gapes are cool. The horrific bleeding, near or actual prolapse gapes of Giorgio Grandi and his ilk is disgusting and horrifying.


The French guy who made gape popular, he used the best lighting or whatever to show the gapes or he placed the hands differently so it was not distending and prolapsing the anus. It's really disgusting to see the guts of the woman. I think the ones who love prolapse are like latent serial killers or cannibals.

Lmao. Prolapse lovers latent cannibals is a funny concept.

In all seriousness, I agree though. Gapes are awesome and a must for me to buy a scene. Full on prolapses inches outside of the asshole are disgusting. Near, or almost buttrose where you just see some of the "texture" but it's still "inside" is borderline....depends on the girl and the case.

But gapes, always.

[ToryLaneRulez]

when the lady in question is gaoing can we please let her spread her cheeks or any other female talent in the scene not the male talent

nothing worse than seeing a nice puckered gaping hole being spread by mens hands

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compared to a nice gape and some sexy manicured nails of the female

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keep your filthy male hands out of the womans gape, let her spread her own cheeks

[pornlover_holland]

Is it too much to ask for them to do a "guckmal" tag for the old-style clean gape? "Guckmal" = No hint of prolapse or hemorrhoid or bleeding anus? It's so nauseating and disturbing to see that stuff. it really puts me off anal in particular. Anal sex is not particularly health for the model and prolapse in particular is actually very unhealthy for the model.

I have always been a fan of gaping in porn. A gape is the ultimate proof that there has been some good anal fucking in a porn scene. Gapes are real, you can't fake them. That is what makes them very hot to see.
When you are shooting very hardcore anal scenes like LegalPorno does there will be more than the old-style clean gape. Just because the anal sex is so hard there will be red and swollen assholes.

And anal is very popular among porn fans. So girls have to do it to pleasure the fans. If we would stop doing things in porn which are considered unhealthy a lot of porn couldn't be produced these days.
Luckily porn directors know what the fans really like and keep producing this type of porn.

[guaguancogomez]

Gaping

[Destroyherass]

Gapes are essential. If i don't see a girl gaping after a session it feels like a letdown and waste.

[backflipman]

I hope by now every producer has scene this thread in the forum and is acting accordingly

[dap-addict]

Gaping

Which of JYL's Assman is this pic from, guaguancogomez?

[backflipman]

Which of JYL's Assman is this pic from, guaguancogomez?[/quote]
Not the Poster of the picture but it is this scene https://www.indexxx.com/set/662188/firstanalquest-logan-bella/

[dap-addict]

Oh, I see I was 10 years too late then.
My mind goes heavily JYL these days again.
I'd so much like any new director to fellow his school of gapeing!

[dap-addict]

edit: Too early, ie. around 1999, not too late! LOL!

[backflipman]

I just made a post in the Gonzo and Nrx threads of the forum. I feel like these 2 studios have the most potential to improve when it comes to that. In my opinion the best studios when it comes to gapes currently is Vira Gold and Mambo Perv is solid too. LTP and NTP seem to have a good focus on that as well. Yummy I can't really tell, but also seems like there isn't too much focus on that there. With Gio it heavily depends on the model.

Do producers tunnelvision too hard on some kind of a checklist to have all the actions like pissing, dap, dvp or to work down the list of all positions, that the focus for something so basic and essential falls under the table? Or are they just not aware that this is something essential for many analporn watchers?

If for everytime a male performer slaps, chokes, spanks or spits on a girl he would grab her butt cheeks and pull them wide open after fucking her ass scenes would be 200% better in my opinion.

Maybe I should just invest my saved money into Mr. Pineapple from the scenes he shot it seems like he has the right focus on that. He even knows what the "kuckmal" is. Too bad most of these producers have no clue what it is and don't even bother looking it up even though there is a whole thread about it.

What I also think is in the times of early gonzo or sineplex studios the reason to shoot a girl multiple times was to see her gape improving, from the first anal scene to a 5 guy dap gangbang you could just see that the girls ass was stretched wider and wider and gaping more and more and this was presented in the scenes as well, like it was to kind of the goal. Nowadays multiple scenes with a girl completely misses that part even when it comes to like first dap scenes you don't really see any improvement or focus on the improvement of the gape. I really miss those times seeing a sexy new girl with a small gape to being stretched wide open in her third or fourth scene after her first dap or a long anal gangbang with increasingly bigger dicks.

[backflipman]

I forgot about AGO and Erika Korti, well for Erika Korti I would say it is hard to create a big gape with average sized dicks (at least for porn standards) not to bash these guys, they are in good shape and there dicksize is completely fine and probably above average it's just too average for what I would like to see a girl take in her ass in a porn scene. They are also completely missing one B when it comes to BBC scenes. Maybe they should book Dorien Falaise more often and convince him to try something for his hardness. Otherwise they seem to try to focus a bit more on that as other studios.

With AGO it is also hard to tell, they seem to focus a lot on pussy stuff. Every now and then they try to implement it as well but it is not really something impressing like the 100th scene of Nicole Black showing off her nice perfect big gape.

[Anselm_Weinberg]

Gapes are of course always nice-to-have, but sometimes there are girls who just aren't predisposed as well to gaping but can still be ace performers all the same.

Gaping pussies are way hotter than anal gapes, especially when you light up the vaginal cavity with a high intensity beam that shows the cervical gape

This is an odd take if ever I saw one, at least one you wouldn't expect on a site like this.

[isis666xxx]

Gaping pussies are way hotter than anal gapes, especially when you light up the vaginal cavity with a high intensity beam that shows the cervical gape

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you are delusional

you think vaginal can dream of competing with anal????

HAHAH

anal and everything anal is much hotter than vaginal, thats just a fact

[pornlover_holland]

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you are delusional

you think vaginal can dream of competing with anal????

HAHAH

anal and everything anal is much hotter than vaginal, thats just a fact

Exactly. The pussy isn't interesting for me. It is all about the asshole when I watch porn. Cocks going straight to the asshole of the girls. Two cocks in the same asshole. Opening the assholes very wide and show the gapes so you can look deep inside. Porn is totally about what you can do with the assholes of the girls and nothing else.

[Agodee]

Gapes are cool!