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I am just wondering, among all the fetishes on this site the pissing fetish in my opinion is the most questionable. I know there is the Pissvids section of the site, yet it is what i am least interested in throughout all the stuff there is.
I know there are people who like it and i am aware i can just download the dry version of a scene if i want to. Yet it creates a "cut" in the action of the "dry" scene and also when i see a wet version the action would stop in order to get the girl in position to have the guys piss on her and then it takes some time to get back to normal action. I feel like it interrupts the flow of the scene. I don't feel this way or have this noticed with any other fetish.

To my understanding producing pissing scenes costs the producer extra money. Not only does the female model get paid more, also the male performers have to do some extra preparation (cleaning there piss, drinking a lot of water, etc) i don't know if this extra "work" is compensated. Then there is also the US customers who don't even have access to these "wet" scenes yet with every purchase they pay for something they don't even get see. (probably can be bypassed by a VPN if they really desire to)

So is it just me or is this heavy focus on pissing just maybe not what this site needs?

It ruins the hair, make up, slows down the scene and puts away the focus of fucking the girls ass. The only pause in fucking the girls ass should be her presenting her gape or prolapse. This is what brought me to legalporno in 2012. Pissing is for me just annoying.

It is a must in a scene

Hate it and hope it gets severly downvoted

Guys pissing on Girls is overrated.
Girls pissing on Girls or Guys is absolutely underrated.

Hope there would be more scenes with pissing girls in the big studios.

ryukenmaster666 wrote:It is a must in a scene

Yep, I won’t buy a scene without it.

The only thing I really can think of is how fucking distgusting & absolutely rank those carpets, couches, & such are. As we all know the furniture isn't exactly 1 time use around them parts.....

The option to buy a wet scene with pissing and a dry scene without pissing significantly improves sales by a substantial amount, compared to a more vanilla, dry version only...I do not have all the data, but I would say that it helps sales by a good 30+ percent.

There are also other features that help with sales such as bigger tits over flat chested women, the bigger tits woman will sell more on average.

Also, things like the type of sexy high heels will also increase the sales figures by a few percent...

Etc, etc...

LPAV, xxx, GG have a lot of the data and they know what sells well, what gets a lot of interest, and what the paying fans want to see...

Salt is essential to our diets. Urine and its acid rain have the biggest impact on our well-being and safety on set. But of the two, salt is the more important.
as our models have been suffering from hyponatremia, or low blood salt levels, that exist, mostly due to the antipiss propaganda.
while the salt they sorely require is provided in the piss they drink.
Feeding them raw salt while getting fucked up the ass, (a habit that causes Dehydration that quickly leads to hyponatremia), would be exceedingly risky. Additionally, our models' safety comes first.

sorry, can not do away with piss it is a survival matter and a much-needed bust of energy
when the body requires it the most, two cocks up the ass need two gallons of piss and most studios are only providing two to three litters falling short of the daily guideline recommendations, more piss is needed.
Dr. Vi

pissing is cool cuz is sadistic

u degrade & fuck the girl with the piss = sadistic

is not about liking piss, is about fucking her & degrading her

whats overrated is high heels, prefering high heels over barefoot is gross

society is like 'high heels are super hot and femenine' then the masses are 'wow high heels are hot and femenine so i prefer them over barefoot even though they are boring'

high heels are boring, so boring compared to barefoot

anonym666666 wrote:high heels are boring, so boring compared to barefoot

also high heels deform the toes a lot by bending the toes

using shoes that deform ur feet is **********

I was watching some old gio scenes with belle claire earlier, much better without piss in every scene. Once in awhile is fine and that is what gio would do.

backflipman wrote:So is it just me or is this heavy focus on pissing just maybe not what this site needs?

The pissing focus is what separated Legal Porno/AnalVids from all the other major porn studios. Apart from some smaller niche sites, this remains the only 'mainstream' porn site that includes this fetish. In my opinion it would be madness to get rid of a unique selling point, and lump yourself in with all the competitors.

What's hurting this site is the price increases and unending flood of hundreds of amateur/cookie-cutter crap scenes on a daily basis. Not the piss.

backflipman wrote:To my understanding producing pissing scenes costs the producer extra money. Not only does the female model get paid more, also the male performers have to do some extra preparation (cleaning there piss, drinking a lot of water, etc) i don't know if this extra "work" is compensated.

It's compensated for both girls and studs. And basically it's about the ratio girls get payed more than studs for their work. Well, girls get a bit more than that, because they usually take the piss on their face and often drink it.

A lot of porn girls I talked to over the years first felt repelled, but got pretty fast used to it. Financial compensation sure helped them.

What I like with this side of the story is that fetishes like certain sex acts or wet are just payed more for and it's like a menu the girls can pick from. At the same time the fees have to be set high enough to motivate the girls to rather do it.
For the studs financial compensation for additional preparation might be a bit too low, but biz willl react as soon as they start dropping out. For AVLP studs basically have to be prepared to piss if they wanna work for those studios. But if they are good enough and demanded enough in their main competence, fucking and shooting a (decent) load at the end of it, they might ve able to skip pissing.


As a user I went from absolutely avoiding wet to a kind of fascination as long as it's done during Anal sex. A pissed on cgDAP footage at this point is a porn shopping catch for me. But I still could also do without piss. I voted thus for option nr. 2.

dap-addict wrote:

backflipman wrote:To my understanding producing pissing scenes costs the producer extra money. Not only does the female model get paid more, also the male performers have to do some extra preparation (cleaning there piss, drinking a lot of water, etc) i don't know if this extra "work" is compensated.

It's compensated for both girls and studs. And basically it's about the ratio girls get payed more than studs for their work. Well, girls get a bit more than that, because they usually take the piss on their face and often drink it.

A lot of porn girls I talked to over the years first felt repelled, but got pretty fast used to it. Financial compensation sure helped them.

What I like with this side of the story is that fetishes like certain sex acts or wet are just payed more for and it's like a menu the girls can pick from. At the same time the fees have to be set high enough to motivate the girls to rather do it.
For the studs financial compensation for additional preparation might be a bit too low, but biz willl react as soon as they start dropping out. For AVLP studs basically have to be prepared to piss if they wanna work for those studios. But if they are good enough and demanded enough in their main competence, fucking and shooting a (decent) load at the end of it, they might ve able to skip pissing.


As a user I went from absolutely avoiding wet to a kind of fascination as long as it's done during Anal sex. A pissed on cgDAP footage at this point is a porn shopping catch for me. But I still could also do without piss. I voted thus for option nr. 2.

You forgot to mention the health risk of doing these scenes, especially on the daily basis. Drinking multiple liters of water in a very short time is a big risk, adding the amount of electrolytes lost and the stress on the pelvic floor muscles while holding the pee ( the same muscles is used for erection as well). I am talking at the male performer point of view.

Thanks so far, for voting and everyone sharing their feedback it's always fun and interesting to share your opinion and read how other people think about it or bring up arguments some people aren't aware of like Oscar did.

Also voting results seem pretty balanced xxxVIPERxxx has very strong argument as well

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:The option to buy a wet scene with pissing and a dry scene without pissing significantly improves sales by a substantial amount, compared to a more vanilla, dry version only...I do not have all the data, but I would say that it helps sales by a good 30+ percent.

The option of wet scenes opens a new market and serves a fetish others don't or can't serve. Of course generating sales with people particularly interested in that. People who don't like it but like the girl, the action or other any aspect that makes them buy the scene have the option to buy the dry version (people who most likely voted 3 or 4) i was thinking about if people who really hate it won't even consider to buy the scene if it was originally shooted as a wet scene. With the dry versions i didn't need the feel to do it but maybe also think that way.

Maybe there are some ideas how pissing could be approached when it comes to the shooting or creation of the scene, as of right now i mostly seen it happening right during the scene, action stop, pissing, back to sex then wet parts cut out for dry version. There are probably varations, girl pissed on in the beginning or in the end or in between. But this would probably piss off piss lovers
Just a thought: Maybe the pissing could be filmed separately and then cut in, if done professional in a moment where action/position/cuts happen anyway. Maybe a bit hard to realise with what Oscar said (the guys should pee, when they have to, to net stress the genitourinary system + this would probably piss off piss lovers
Or what we have is already the best solution there is to it?

To the barefoot/heels discussion : It is easy to have both in a scene right? People who don't care wouldn't even notice much, or is a heel lover triggered by every barefoot action and vice versa?

Also what Frett1887 mentioned about girls pissing is underrated i can get behind, but in general scenes where there is a dominant and a submissive girl can be very hot.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote: There are also other features that help with sales such as bigger tits over flat chested women, the bigger tits woman will sell more on average.

Yeah makes sense i would agree on that, even though Big natural boobs>small natural boobs>fake boobs if i had to choose.

Well there are also medium breasts that are fake and if they are well done it is also aesthetic, just huge fake moon balloons i like the least

backflipman wrote:To the barefoot/heels discussion : It is easy to have both in a scene right? People who don't care wouldn't even notice much, or is a heel lover triggered by every barefoot action and vice versa?

As a heel (and outfit) lover, yes this is a problem. It is supremely annoying to have a scene that starts during the tease segment with a girl wearing a great outfit and heels, then a few minutes into the action it all comes off and she's completely nude, and when given a choice I will actively prioritise spending against studios where this is likely to happen (usually Gonzo and NRX) to studios where the outfit stays on throughout. As with piss - I suspect the best option would be that, instead of trying to please all audience fetishes in every scene with a bit of everything, completely separate scenes are shot focused on those fetishes. So shoot some scenes completely nude throughout that I can avoid and others get off on, whilst shooting others that are costume/heels throughout.

As a viewer this would probably also be preferrable for the wet scenes - instead of all scenes featuring some wet stuff, do 50% completely dry, and 50% completely wet, with no dry edit at all. This way you don't have to worry about doing stop/start actions, towelling off the girl and the set so she's suddenly magically dry again etc. Obviously from a production point of view you'd lose sales from those countries that have banned pee, so I can understand why we are stuck in this half-way house.

davebowman wrote:

backflipman wrote:To the barefoot/heels discussion : It is easy to have both in a scene right?

As a heel (and outfit) lover, yes this is a problem. It is supremely annoying to have a scene that starts during the tease segment with a girl wearing a great outfit and heels, then a few minutes into the action it all comes off and she's completely nude

I completely agree here and share same emotions with exactly that happening.

This said in the end I also buy completely naked and barefoot scenes if I like the girl and know she performs well, although in my daily porn shopping choice I 90% prioritize stocking+heel scenes.


As for wet/dry I really think it's a good compromise to shoot both versions at once. I do get that some wet haters are put off by the mere knowledge and thought that the girl has been pissed on in a later cut out footage. But for studios this is basically the only feasible way, which is also financially bearable. I would vote for more dry scenes being shot again, though.
And I actually do support mainly dry studios like NTP.

Also it's complete pointless for me to have girls not having any anal sex on their knees waiting to be pissed on.

Oscar Batty wrote:

dap-addict wrote:For the studs financial compensation for additional preparation might be a bit too low, but biz willl react as soon as they start dropping out.

You forgot to mention the health risk of doing these scenes, especially on the daily basis. Drinking multiple liters of water in a very short time is a big risk, adding the amount of electrolytes lost and the stress on the pelvic floor muscles while holding the pee ( the same muscles is used for erection as well). I am talking at the male performer point of view.

This is a very important addition to the discussion, thanks Oscar!

I dont wanna discuss fees here, but I feel for a long time male performers in wet scenes get payed too little actually. This said health hazards cant be compensated by payment only really, but studios do need to think about sustainability. We also mustn't forget that piss drinking or piss on pussy for some girls means health trouble as well.

To repeat: Prague main studio seems to shoot wet every day with at least their white stud team. I think they could slow down a bit, but I dont know their sales numbers. For sure studios can condition users to just expect a wet scenes every day or just every 2nd day.

An alternative could be to employ just pissers besides the proofed fuckers.
They are sure easier to find than reliable full-fledged studs, but it all makes logistics more complicated.

Hopefully the male performers sign papers before every scene so that just in case something goes wrong with the pissins then the studio's can't get into any trouble. Old chapman you would think would be in extra risk, his real age must be 70's, don't want his family taking you to court for every penny if he drops dead pissing for example.

Chimpy.677 wrote:The piss scenes completely destroy the scene, I don't understand how people like it, plus there are many actresses who don't like it which makes the scene even worse.

To each his own, some don't understand how some like DAP, for instance. You can't explain it, there is no logic behind it, it is just personnal taste. I understand some don't like piss scene and I am happy there are dry version for them.

Gape_Raider wrote:It ruins the hair, make up, slows down the scene and puts away the focus of fucking the girls ass. The only pause in fucking the girls ass should be her presenting her gape or prolapse. This is what brought me to legalporno in 2012. Pissing is for me just annoying.

Correct answer 100%!

ryukenmaster666 wrote:To each his own, some don't understand how some like DAP, for instance. You can't explain it, there is no logic behind it, it is just personal taste.

I think it's a kind of porn user conditioning happening during first few years. I remember my first DAP in porn like it was yesterday even its almost 30years back! I couldnt believe my eyes and was just hooked. Once I understood the power of porn forums I started to fight to get more of DAP. I lobbied, contacted studios, tried to buy girls into doing it. LP was a game changer after Summer 2014!

Wasnt it the same for you with piss, ryuken?
Early (teen) conditioning by porn or erotic art.

In this context piss is a fetish content added I couldnt avoid and therefore better learned to get used to and find my own joy with. Piss for me is like any other ingredient slowing down the action and/or basically unpopular by the girls, such as kreme, sperm etc.

Generally most porn girls and also porn studs would prefer to just walk up, sign a list and take the money without working.

This said again, I wouldn't mind all studios to slow down a bit with piss content. But for sure they should ideally produce as much as they can sell.

Rightly used, urine has therapeutic properties. Overall, it is not a waste product, unless you consider water to be a waste product, because urine is 95% water, 2.5% urea, almost 2.5% of the rest is proteins, carbs, fats, vitamins, minerals, then traces of microtoxins, the microtoxins usually present in small enough amounts that they can actually act as strengtheners of immunity. Urine also contains creatine. There is a great book on the subject of ingesting urine. It is called Your Own Perfect Medicine, by Martha Christy. She had various major health problems and was basically becoming an invalid and she gave urine a try as a kind of desperate measure and recovered. There are more than 500 reviews of the book at amazon.com with a good rating of 4.4 out of 5. Urine is also pretty! There are other books on this subject. If a pornstar drinks enough urine, who knows what is possible. Tina Hot still looks amazing at her OF.

Similarly, you will probably be told you need glasses by about age 45 due to the condition called Presbyopia, a supposedly inevitable loss of focusing up close. But the great no-nonsense fitness guru, Jack LaLanne, did eye exercises (see his book Live Young Forever) and never needed glasses. Or check out behavioral optometrist Dr. Ray Gottlieb, a senior who came up with methods to keep the brain and eyes working nicely together. He too does not need glasses. The group of professionals who are most delayed in needing glasses are airline pilots. Think about the fact that they are looking at cockpit instruments and then out at the horizon. A great visual workout.

My experience when I tell people these things is that they laugh it off. The data does not count. I have told 2 people on my street how not to need glasses, and both now have glasses. I overestimated the willingness of people to try new things. Most just conform. I am a senior and do not need glasses (so far).

Here is a link to a PDF of the book on Urine Therapy:
https://urotherapyresearch.com/wp-conte ... hristy.pdf

dap-addict wrote:

ryukenmaster666 wrote:To each his own, some don't understand how some like DAP, for instance. You can't explain it, there is no logic behind it, it is just personal taste.

I think it's a kind of porn user conditioning happening during first few years. I remember my first DAP in porn like it was yesterday even its almost 30years back! I couldnt believe my eyes and was just hooked. Once I understood the power of porn forums I started to fight to get more of DAP. I lobbied, contacted studios, tried to buy girls into doing it. LP was a game changer after Summer 2014!

Wasnt it the same for you with piss, ryuken?
Early (teen) conditioning by porn or erotic art.

Piss it started not long time ago, it was some Lady Dee photoshoot where she peed. To my surprise, I found it sexy. Then I discover this site where models (at least a good part of them) drink piss and I found it great.

For DAP, I used to really like it, until it becomes too common. The first I saw was Annabel Chong, I was amazed such thing can be done. Then I remember also some hot scenes with Sylvia Saint. Now my problem is the 0% pussy, and scenes are starting with DAP, then another DAP , then again a DAP , let's continue with another DAP and for the last part of the scene, let's be original : a DAP. And their concept to do something totally different and original is to insert a TAP between two DAP.

I hate piss kink but what difference does it make to me when I can block it. Something I am grateful for compared to other studios. If it wasnt restricted in the US I presume they wouldnt go to the effort of selling a dry edited version so I can be thankful for one peice of censorship I guess. Sucks if you're an american pisshead but get a VPN.

asoberspamman wrote:I hate piss kink but what difference does it make to me when I can block it. Something I am grateful for compared to other studios. If it wasnt restricted in the US I presume they wouldnt go to the effort of selling a dry edited version so I can be thankful for one peice of censorship I guess. Sucks if you're an american pisshead but get a VPN.

It's not restricted anymore.

I love it. Probably my number one fetish. Not always to see a girl 'degraded' - a number of girls, having experienced it clearly don't mind it.

For me it's the willingness to do something socially considered 'gross'. A pornstar willing to go this far generally is willing to do anything else (that our wives, girlfriends wouldn't allow) - this makes the act that much more enticing.

I remember the 1st time I saw a piss scene - Kelly Wells drinking Max Hardcore's piss - i was hooked. It turned me on more than anything else up to that point. I figured it was a temp kink, but It's now a part of my core porn purchase allowance. If she dosen't do piss, i'm less interested.

Pissing scenes are soft core non porn material parasiting hardcore multiple penetrative porn scenes
Only directors that produce garbage porn include piss interspersed everywhere within their video footage
To me it's the most retarded act to include in porn like drinking sea water or playing in a puddle

Mixxed feeling would be the best way to describe reaction. Probably depends a fair bit on mood. You can see some ladies find it a bit replusive and tolerate it for the money and that is a bit of a turn off, ie tacit coersion., never pleasant if one senses that. I keep wonderig what the studio must be like with all those piss scenecs that have gone on in them. To enter those as a actress or actor must be a yuk, you'd detect the stale urine smell, yuk. My grandad owned a pub and I know aht that smeels like from the male toilets, disgusting. So if that thought eneters my mind then I for a while find the scene repulsive. On the other hand the effect can be pretty sexy, ie liquid shing and dripping on a beautiful body etc. Never tried it myself so cant speak from actual experience as to what it is like. Intitially I found piss scenes replusive. So mixed feelings.

To be honest, it has reached a magnitude that I did not expect to see, almost each scene has a wet version, something unthinkable 4-5 years ago.

For me is fine and doesn't bother me but there are some piss stuff more interesting than others.

The piss scenes completely destroy the scene.

Let us just say it is a matter of "taste."

sumacs3 wrote:Let us just say it is a matter of "taste."

No it's not a matter of taste: Pissing is and will always be niche porn
Having it mainstream on this website even as dry version is noticeable and annihilates the whole quality of a scene

Well for me pissing it's just to make girl wet and see mouth wide open, makeup melted girl looks more slutty.. and that's all about. They can use water I don't really care but has to be wet... All face all hair and see girl with make up and after see without in the end of scene. But yes depends on people what they like. I'd wanted to see that more for sure. Thank u

I love this post, but i also don't really need it

I only like pissing scenes where there is deepthroating while pissing or throatfucking like in the clip below. Otherwise to me it is waste of time.