The Guardian wrote:The threat of war in Ukraine is growing. As the unelected government in Kiev declares itself unable to control the rebellion in the country's east, John Kerry brands Russia a rogue state. The US and the European Union step up sanctions against the Kremlin, accusing it of destabilising Ukraine. The White House is reported to be set on a new cold war policy with the aim of turning Russia into a "pariah state".
That might be more explicable if what is going on in eastern Ukraine now were not the mirror image of what took place in Kiev a couple of months ago. Then, it was armed protesters in Maidan Square seizing government buildings and demanding a change of government and constitution. US and European leaders championed the "masked militants" and denounced the elected government for its crackdown, just as they now back the unelected government's use of force against rebels occupying police stations and town halls in cities such as Slavyansk and Donetsk.
"America is with you," Senator John McCain told demonstrators then, standing shoulder to shoulder with the leader of the far-right Svoboda party as the US ambassador haggled with the state department over who would make up the new Ukrainian government.
When the Ukrainian president was replaced by a US-selected administration, in an entirely unconstitutional takeover, politicians such as William Hague brazenly misled parliament about the legality of what had taken place: the imposition of a pro-western government on Russia's most neuralgic and politically divided neighbour.
Putin bit back, taking a leaf out of the US street-protest playbook – even though, as in Kiev, the protests that spread from Crimea to eastern Ukraine evidently have mass support. But what had been a glorious cry for freedom in Kiev became infiltration and insatiable aggression in Sevastopol and Luhansk.
After Crimeans voted overwhelmingly to join Russia, the bulk of the western media abandoned any hint of even-handed coverage. So Putin is now routinely compared to Hitler, while the role of the fascistic right on the streets and in the new Ukrainian regime has been airbrushed out of most reporting as Putinist propaganda.
The reality is that, after two decades of eastward Nato expansion, this crisis was triggered by the west's attempt to pull Ukraine decisively into its orbit and defence structure, via an explicitly anti-Moscow EU association agreement. Its rejection led to the Maidan protests and the installation of an anti-Russian administration – rejected by half the country – that went on to sign the EU and International Monetary Fund agreements regardless.
No Russian government could have acquiesced in such a threat from territory that was at the heart of both Russia and the Soviet Union. Putin's absorption of Crimea and support for the rebellion in eastern Ukraine is clearly defensive, and the red line now drawn: the east of Ukraine, at least, is not going to be swallowed up by Nato or the EU.
But the dangers are also multiplying. Ukraine has shown itself to be barely a functioning state: the former government was unable to clear Maidan, and the western-backed regime is "helpless" against the protests in the Soviet-nostalgic industrial east. For all the talk about the paramilitary "green men" (who turn out to be overwhelmingly Ukrainian), the rebellion also has strong social and democratic demands: who would argue against a referendum on autonomy and elected governors?
Meanwhile, the US and its European allies impose sanctions and dictate terms to Russia and its proteges in Kiev, encouraging the military crackdown on protesters after visits from Joe Biden and the CIA director, John Brennan. But by what right is the US involved at all, incorporating under its strategic umbrella a state that has never been a member of Nato, and whose last elected government came to power on a platform of explicit neutrality? It has none, of course – which is why the Ukraine crisis is seen in such a different light across most of the world. There may be few global takers for Putin's oligarchic conservatism and nationalism, but Russia's counterweight to US imperial expansion is welcomed, from China to Brazil.
In fact, one outcome of the crisis is likely to be a closer alliance between China and Russia, as the US continues its anti-Chinese "pivot" to Asia. And despite growing violence, the cost in lives of Russia's arms-length involvement in Ukraine has so far been minimal compared with any significant western intervention you care to think of for decades.
The risk of civil war is nevertheless growing, and with it the chances of outside powers being drawn into the conflict. Barack Obama has already sent token forces to eastern Europe and is under pressure, both from Republicans and Nato hawks such as Poland, to send many more. Both US and British troops are due to take part in Nato military exercises in Ukraine this summer.
The US and EU have already overplayed their hand in Ukraine. Neither Russia nor the western powers may want to intervene directly, and the Ukrainian prime minister's conjuring up of a third world war presumably isn't authorised by his Washington sponsors. But a century after 1914, the risk of unintended consequences should be obvious enough – as the threat of a return of big-power conflict grows. Pressure for a negotiated end to the crisis is essential.
number1s wrote:Seriously? The text quoted was an opinion piece by one Seumas Milne, formerly Jeremy Corbyn’s Head of Strategy & Communications and a committed Marxist. Accordingly, he is well known for his Russian sympathies. This is is a guy that is so well balanced that while at Oxford University he spoke with a Palestinian accent and called himself Shams (Arabic for "sun").
number1s wrote:Seriously? The text quoted was an opinion piece by one Seumas Milne, formerly Jeremy Corbyn’s Head of Strategy & Communications and a committed Marxist. Accordingly, he is well known for his Russian sympathies. This is is a guy that is so well balanced that while at Oxford University he spoke with a Palestinian accent and called himself Shams (Arabic for "sun").
Jimbo8012395 wrote:This is just completely ridiculous but as always innocent people with no influence are caught up on this and made an example of.
The Russiaphobia that's swept the Western world since 2016 and particularly in the US is very disturbing.
Hope Kitty knows that there are lots of sane people out there who sympathise with her situation.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:
The Russiaphobia that's swept the Western world since 2016 and particularly in the US is very disturbing.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:This is just completely ridiculous but as always innocent people with no influence are caught up on this and made an example of.
The Russiaphobia that's swept the Western world since 2016 and particularly in the US is very disturbing.
Hope Kitty knows that there are lots of sane people out there who sympathise with her situation.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Sorry guys but you are mixing the actions of the president of a nation, with the actions of citizen.
- if Putin is a dictator, so russian citizens are victims and we should welcome them
Paizal wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:Sorry guys but you are mixing the actions of the president of a nation, with the actions of citizen.
- if Putin is a dictator, so russian citizens are victims and we should welcome them
Even a dictatorship does not function without its citizens.
number1s wrote:Seriously? The text quoted was an opinion piece by one Seumas Milne, formerly Jeremy Corbyn’s Head of Strategy & Communications and a committed Marxist. Accordingly, he is well known for his Russian sympathies. This is is a guy that is so well balanced that while at Oxford University he spoke with a Palestinian accent and called himself Shams (Arabic for "sun").
Jimbo8012395 wrote:number1s wrote:Seriously? The text quoted was an opinion piece by one Seumas Milne, formerly Jeremy Corbyn’s Head of Strategy & Communications and a committed Marxist. Accordingly, he is well known for his Russian sympathies. This is is a guy that is so well balanced that while at Oxford University he spoke with a Palestinian accent and called himself Shams (Arabic for "sun").
What an absolute croq of shit. I don't think anyone on here really cares that much about your opinion on Seumas Milne, a fairly minor figure in UK Politics. It's a porn forum, not somewhere to drone on about your politics. What has Marxism got to do with a) the current situation in Ukraine and the west response to it b) having Russian sympathies and c) Kitty Li's situation in Belgium. Nothing at all is the answer.
Jimbo8012395 wrote: It's a porn forum, not somewhere to drone on about your politics.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:
hum, what?
Paizal wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:
hum, what?
What? What's so hard to understand about that? Who votes for Putin? Who supports Putin? Who believes all the propaganda? Who doesn't take to the streets? The citizens.
YuriyProneBone wrote:What GIO mentioned about COVID is accurate.
https://youtu.be/2jTgDj7uiX8
It was basically for profit and EU is a mafia that went along with it.
There was a guy here commenting about his hate towards Russian people saying he doesn't care about anyone getting arrested that they deserve it.
That's the perfect example of the mentality of the West, willing to fight to the last Ukrainian, no value for human life, and happy about the agendas the West is promoting. It makes it clear who is who.
YumYum74 wrote:I don’t understand the drama. Because regardless of your position, it is a simple fact that travel of Russians citizens in the EU is severely restricted. Whether you agree with it or not, it is a fact.
There are ways around this (travel via Turkey or Serbia f.e.), but travelling as a Russian to or within Belgium carries with it the risk of arrest/deportation/cancelled visas. So while I feel for what happened to Kitty, she took a risk travelling to Belgium. She must have known about the rules (again, agree with them or not), yet decided to risk it. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don’t. This time she didn’t, that’s all in the game.
Grrrka wrote:
You are living the "mentality of the West" who wishes to see Slavic women gangbanged by Africans....
Jimbo8012395 wrote:What an absolute croq of shit. I don't think anyone on here really cares that much about your opinion on Seumas Milne, a fairly minor figure in UK Politics. It's a porn forum, not somewhere to drone on about your politics. What has Marxism got to do with a) the current situation in Ukraine and the west response to it b) having Russian sympathies and c) Kitty Li's situation in Belgium. Nothing at all is the answer.
antiochethereal wrote: Discrimination is pretty much trumped by a ruzzian people supported war in Ukraine. It will only get worse from here, I support the decision to arrest her. I'd say that it is high time that they also arrest solovyovs son in London and send him the fuck home to where he belongs. Solovyov shitting on both gays, the west in general and in the meantime his own son is sitting safely in London; jacking off other men. These cunts won't get any sympathy from me. Get your head out of your ass and get real. ruzzia does serve a purpose though; namely uniting the rest of the world against a common enemy, and they do that quite well. Just a shame that so many lives need to be lost for it to come to fruition. Lastly who gives a shit about some ruzki cunt getting arrested at the border ROFL there are thousands of financially poor Czech, Romanian, Albanian etc. girls and women that could take her place after a few weeks of training. Nothing is lost by her getting deported home. "Insane" but realistic person out!
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Sorry guys but you are mixing the actions of the president of a nation, with the actions of citizen.
The point is simple:
- if Putin is a dictator, so russian citizens are victims and we should welcome them
- if we sanctions normal russian citizens, this means russia is a democracy and so all the western narrative is a nonsense
Said that
Belgium and the Netherlands are very well know for reject people at the border control when they do not like them since covid. It happened with Russians models and South American (I am aware of this personally, because I paid girl's tickets that have been deported). The girls were rejected purely on the personal decision of the border officer based on his own point of view and not according to any written rule. They are targeting young girls deliberately, it is a clear form of discrimination.
I have been deported myself, with all family (pregnant wife and 2 kids) at passport control in Helsinki (Finland) for a nonsense reason (and my passport is european) during covid. I was lucky I found an airplane for Sweden during the time we were closed in the little prison of the airport.
What I see is an increasing for of direct discrimination against helpless Russian citizen who already live in Europe and also against those who would like to come to Europe to work or go on holiday.
It's shameful
The direction the EU has taken since covid, is not something to be happy.
drevokocur66 wrote:Jimbo8012395 wrote:This is just completely ridiculous but as always innocent people with no influence are caught up on this and made an example of.
The Russiaphobia that's swept the Western world since 2016 and particularly in the US is very disturbing.
Hope Kitty knows that there are lots of sane people out there who sympathise with her situation.
lmao 2016? Try 1968 when Soviet tanks rolled into the eastern block. What is disturbing, is turd pants Putin waging a genocidal war in Ukraine. The Former Eastern block knows extremely well who they should fear.
Jimbo8012395 wrote:drevokocur66 wrote:Jimbo8012395 wrote:This is just completely ridiculous but as always innocent people with no influence are caught up on this and made an example of.
The Russiaphobia that's swept the Western world since 2016 and particularly in the US is very disturbing.
Hope Kitty knows that there are lots of sane people out there who sympathise with her situation.
lmao 2016? Try 1968 when Soviet tanks rolled into the eastern block. What is disturbing, is turd pants Putin waging a genocidal war in Ukraine. The Former Eastern block knows extremely well who they should fear.
Got news for you pal. All empires and nuclear armed powers commit war crimes and wage genoicidal wars. The US has engineered over 85 foreign coups since 1954, deposed countless democratically elected leaders and Govts and has killed over 12 million innocent people in the last 40 years. The British empire before them was just as genocidal.
Psychopaths run the world and have done for millenia. They're at the top of all power structures (Govt, Military, Corporations, Banks etc).
People like Kitty aren't responsible for any of this. Let's all try and have a bit of empathy for a great porn performer rather than treating her like an expendable piece of meat or porn whore as some disgusting cunts have in this thread.
YuriyProneBone wrote:Grrrka wrote:
You are living the "mentality of the West" who wishes to see Slavic women gangbanged by Africans....
Not just Slavic women, women from all countries. And I do like women to be submissive, but I'm not into the cuckold stuff.
YuriyProneBone wrote:Pair her with Kira for BBC gangbang.
Grrrka wrote:Okay, you try and say you are not a cuckold but some kind of great Ambassador for African men. lol Whatever. Quite a contradiction to be a cuckold and some kind of proud Russian defending against the West. A deluded disgrace to Russia is what you are.
jjwhite1985 wrote:Some people here need to realize that swallowing a load of pro-Putin, anti-West propaganda doesn't make you smart or edgy.
sexyposter69 wrote:I think its unfortunate that Kitty Li got arrested but at the same time, its a good thing for fans of hardcore lesbian girl-girl porn, because you see?? She really got arrested after authorities discovered shes an adult pornstar who has starred in hardcore straight sex porn content for years. The Belgium government is historically pro lesbian and gay rights friendly, especially in the adult entertainment market and with Kitty Li's new impending court case over her legal matters and her immigration status revoked at the border, the government of Belgium is trying to use this as leverage against the porn studios: LegalPorno / Analvids, in an exclusive report from the BBC, Kitty Li's lawyers have been contacted by Belgium officals over the possibility of a plead deal to let her go free, to reinstate her travel VISA back to Russia, but in exchange for this deal to work, Kitty Li will have to personally contact every porn director who has worked for Legal Porno and Analvids, to stop shooting and promoting heterosexual porn which in Belgium is actually against obscenity laws on adult entertainment. Kitty Li will have to ask these directors like Giorgio Grandi and Rocco Steffadi, to start shooting mainstream hardcore lesbian girl-girl sex fetish porn video content in the future. If this is a successful request for the owners / directors / producers of Legalporno to start shooting exclusively hardcore lesbian sex porn content on their website, then in the future, maybe this year in 2023 or next year in 2024, there will be NO MORE STRAIGHT PORN, INSTEAD ONLY LESBIAN PORN, which makes me and others really happy on here and looking forward to a better future in which diversity will finally be recognized in the world of European / Russia based hardcore pornography.
YuriyProneBone wrote:Was that you? Man you need to step up with that incel situation, you are going to keep getting offended for everything you hear, go out, get laid, it's OK to interrupt and say your opinion, it's OK to take space, you can make it happen, I believe in you.
YuriyProneBone wrote:Speak for yourself, either have some arguments or stop being a total creep.
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