So many sadists here

[Jocke]

I have mostly stopped reading. Too many who doN't give a damn about the well being of the girls and think their pleasure is the only thing that counts.

THIS BOARD USED TO CONTAIN GREAT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIFE, SEX AND HUMAN INTERACTION.

[visigoth2020260]

are you for real?

These bitches aren't going to earn that money so swiftly as they did before, after doing a scene it was shopping and party time, that shit ain't happening anymore, and now is home to rest for one or two weeks. ha, ha, ha, ha.
does that make me a sadist?

DISCLAIMER:

all words in this post aren't
intended to disrespect anyone
especially our lovely models, I
do hope they recover very soon.

for real, we all love our lovely models especially when they are in agony.
excuse me sir, but I do not consider myself a sadist, I just have a profound love for all of them.
..........................
we love our bitches, don't you?

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Sadistic porn, would in my opinion involve physical and mental abuse e.g. hitting, punching girls etc. I have not seen any scenes where girls have been punched or hit violently, or where anything non-consensual has happened. I also do not hear any verbal or emotional abuse, I remember in the past MeatHoles scenes were very good at this kind of porn in terms of psychological/emotional/mental abuse.

I see girls coming back regularly to perform on here, with a big smile on their face, I see lots of very big name performers and hot, young, aspiring porn talents on here.
If there is any extreme sadism...I certainly do not see it....

[rtoblerone96]

Old porn used to be about how hot a girl was. Modern porn is about two things: (1) how hot the girl is and (2) what the studio does to the girl. In general, the hotter the girl, the better, and the more advanced stuff they do to her, the better. So the hotter a girl is, the more she can get away with doing standard stuff, while still having good sales and getting booked again. Vice versa is also true.

When it comes to what studios do to the girls, we need a framework, which I think has three dimensions. It doesn't mean every customer enjoys going more advanced stuff on each of the dimensions, but in general they do, and this framework can explain a lot of the discussion on the forum.

1. Penetration
By cocks: Blowjob, vaginal, anal, DP, Airtight, DVP, DAP, DVP+A, DAP+V, TVP, TAP
By hands: vaginal, anal, dp, double vag, double anal.
By dildos, sometimes attached to machines.
By other objects - vegetables, baseball bats, feet, etc.
The bigger the cocks, the better, obviously. The bigger the hands (like male vs female) the better. Also bigger dildos are more popular than small ones.
Then how deep do they go. Balls deep is better that tip fucking, elbow deep fisting than just fisting, and so on..
Another aspect is how fast they go in and out - faster is better. Pounding away at the girls with cocks is more advanced than slow fucking, punch fisting is more advanced, a dildo attached to a machine can go faster.
And then all these methods can be combined, for even more advanced effects.

2. Degradation
The most basic level is anal sex and black cocks - used to be a thing, but now most people won't consider it that degrading. More guys past 3 or 4 is also degrading, there is hardly any more advanced penetration, but the girl is more of a slut. 10-50 guys proves it even better.
Anything involving bodily fluids can be made degrading - cum, piss, spit, vomit, and s**t. ATM, ATOGM are in here as pretending. The variations are endless - pushing it out, getting it on skin (face is best), hair, mouth, eyes. Bonus points if it's from a different person (girl or guy) than the girl that receives it. Also, bonus points if the girls gets it in the mouth and swallows it. Extra bonus if it was first put in the ass, and then tasted and swallowed. Various fluids can be mixed together, and put in a container to be consumed..Also, toilets/urinals are extra degrading.
Bondage and it's many variations are also degrading - the girl agreed to it and is now helpless to stop it. (Yes there is a safe word in reality of course). And then various implements to aid bondage: nose hooks, mounts hooks, blindfolds, ball gags, and so on.
Manhandling is somewhere between degradation and pain, with pinning down, choking, putting the girls in submissive positions getting extra points.

3. Pain
Some customers want to see the girls reactions, and while some faking can happen, the real things is better. This includes grunting, screaming, crabbing, struggles, looking uncomfortable, grinding teeth, rolling eyes, using hands to push away, crying, tapping out and so on. Then there are the red marks on the skin which are an indication the girl went through pain, the more redder and more vicious the better.

Any pain from the modes of penetration or degradation described above, are a bonus. Throat fucking and balls deep anal/DAP, fisting, etc will cause some pain. But then there are additional things to create pain on purpose. Beatings is one way - slapping by hand, kicking, using instruments like crops, canes, rods, whips, paddles. Then pinching and punching, clamps, bondage in stress positions, needles, electricity, how wax etc. The limit is just what authorities (and credit cards), would allow and girls would consent to. This is true sadism OP was mentioning.

Do you think the framework makes sense? It explains some of the debates on 0% pussy vs not, how some people dislike piss because it interrupts penetration, etc.

My opinion is that pornbox is world class/best ever on 1, solid on 2, and mediocre on 3. Unless the credit card companies pull something, the most opportunity to advance what they do to the girls is on 3, thought there is also plenty room on 2 and some on 1.