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Why not open a USA studio?

I can do a list of babes to welcome...

Jackie Hoff



Ashley Lane



Kate England



I can add lots more...

I asked this question before & asked was it a 'turf thing'? "You look after Europe, WE look after USA"; I never got a satisfactory answer...

All I can say is theres a generation of babes there, perfect English talkers, in free-market economy, willing to do practically anything (sometimes not anal, but what the heck? They'll do rimming which I think is more extreme...)

Whats the problem?

Gina Valentina
Gia Derza

PornoManiac wrote:Gina Valentina
Gia Derza

Gia Dezra has some ass...

There was one - American Anal, seems to be dead now though so presumably wasn't financially viable to keep it going for whatever reason. Given that making a new studio in the US would require investing a lot of time, money, resources, logistics etc, I'd imagine it makes more financial sense to just fly any willing American performers over to Europe to film a bunch of scenes now and again.

jjwhite1985 wrote:There was one - American Anal, seems to be dead now though so presumably wasn't financially viable to keep it going for whatever reason. Given that making a new studio in the US would require investing a lot of time, money, resources, logistics etc, I'd imagine it makes more financial sense to just fly any willing American performers over to Europe to film a bunch of scenes now and again.

Another thing, there are also stricter obscenity laws to contend with in the US, so a lot of the acts that LP is known for (fisting, peeing, etc) might be problematic. I'm not sure how much that would effect LP as I think most of those laws apply to DVD rather than online content, but it's something else for them to think about.

Older threads give overview of the old US studios connected to AV .

I'm not even convinced thats the problem. I reckon half dudes here think American porn stars = big hair + Duran Duran + Miami Vice + 1985...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05TRO9JlnI4

jjwhite1985 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:There was one - American Anal, seems to be dead now though so presumably wasn't financially viable to keep it going for whatever reason. Given that making a new studio in the US would require investing a lot of time, money, resources, logistics etc, I'd imagine it makes more financial sense to just fly any willing American performers over to Europe to film a bunch of scenes now and again.

Another thing, there are also stricter obscenity laws to contend with in the US, so a lot of the acts that LP is known for (fisting, peeing, etc) might be problematic. I'm not sure how much that would effect LP as I think most of those laws apply to DVD rather than online content, but it's something else for them to think about.

Don’t think it would be an issue as the company would not be based in the US, they’d just be filming some scenes over there.

petermc934 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:There was one - American Anal, seems to be dead now though so presumably wasn't financially viable to keep it going for whatever reason. Given that making a new studio in the US would require investing a lot of time, money, resources, logistics etc, I'd imagine it makes more financial sense to just fly any willing American performers over to Europe to film a bunch of scenes now and again.

Another thing, there are also stricter obscenity laws to contend with in the US, so a lot of the acts that LP is known for (fisting, peeing, etc) might be problematic. I'm not sure how much that would effect LP as I think most of those laws apply to DVD rather than online content, but it's something else for them to think about.

Don’t think it would be an issue as the company would not be based in the US, they’d just be filming some scenes over there.

Thanks Peter Mac. I just can't understand why they won't do it?

There are already plenty of USA based studios on this site and anyone based in the USA can actually create a studio there. Mr Ananas is based in the USA and has a studio there.
Maybe you need to be more specific with your question.

petermc934 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:There was one - American Anal, seems to be dead now though so presumably wasn't financially viable to keep it going for whatever reason. Given that making a new studio in the US would require investing a lot of time, money, resources, logistics etc, I'd imagine it makes more financial sense to just fly any willing American performers over to Europe to film a bunch of scenes now and again.

Another thing, there are also stricter obscenity laws to contend with in the US, so a lot of the acts that LP is known for (fisting, peeing, etc) might be problematic. I'm not sure how much that would effect LP as I think most of those laws apply to DVD rather than online content, but it's something else for them to think about.

Don’t think it would be an issue as the company would not be based in the US, they’d just be filming some scenes over there.

Anything produced in the US would be covered under that State's law and/or Federal law. That said, I don't think the legal aspect would be a big problem, I think what OP means is why don't they create a GIO/Gonzo "clone" studio, but based in the US with American performers, rather than Europe with European performers, in which case I suspect the issue is just that it wouldn't make much financial sense to do that.

Oscar Batty wrote:There are already plenty of USA based studios on this site and anyone based in the USA can actually create a studio there. Mr Ananas is based in the USA and has a studio there.
Maybe you need to be more specific with your question.

Eroticism, how more specific can I be?

Allanal is where my subscription goes now, no fake cum and much cheaper than LP and you seen every few days, all included. Imho much much much much much better value than LP and I don’t have to filter through bullshit

jjwhite1985 wrote:

petermc934 wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:Another thing, there are also stricter obscenity laws to contend with in the US, so a lot of the acts that LP is known for (fisting, peeing, etc) might be problematic. I'm not sure how much that would affect LP as I think most of those laws apply to DVD rather than online content, but it's something else for them to think about.

Don’t think it would be an issue as the company would not be based in the US, they’d just be filming some scenes over there.

Anything produced in the US would be covered under that State's law and/or Federal law. That said, I don't think the legal aspect would be a big problem, I think what OP means is why don't they create a GIO/Gonzo "clone" studio, but based in the US with American performers, rather than Europe with European performers, in which case I suspect the issue is just that it wouldn't make much financial sense to do that.

That may be true but how is a US court going to prosecute the company for obscenity breaches if they are based in Prague and thus completely out of their jurisdiction.

netzerkaiser wrote:I'm not even convinced thats the problem. I reckon half dudes here think American porn stars = big hair + Duran Duran + Miami Vice + 1985...

For what it's worth my main concern re. female American pornstars is overacting. Which is not to say they all do, or that no European models do.

No way,
everything is more expensive and might lose the urinals, sorry I mean to say, piss action, toilet action, piss raining, piss waterfall,...sorry, I think I'm getting confused with all this piss.
If I ever were to fall with all this piss around, I am going to F sue Ya
all.
...................................................................................
we all know that everyone that goes to America, adapts to their way
of life as if they were born the moment they step on the ground.
...(if you want to be born again go there, in an instant you'll be 5 years old, asking all kinds of questions )...
and the ones that try to be a smart ass, end up locked behind bars,
they love putting people in jail.

Just bring those tourists over and fuck their asses, and piss on them to the point of drowning, so they can have and share how they survive a drowning experience in Prague.
you never know, some of them might even start their own business tours, and bring more tourists to surf in the one and only exclusive piss waves only found @ A/V private resorts in Prague.
I am sure I can accommodate cheap Airline Tickets for them.

Any of you guys ever see Slap Shot, Paul Newman?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJkHm2WtSsk

petermc934 wrote:That may be true but how is a US court going to prosecute the company for obscenity breaches if they are based in Prague and thus completely out of their jurisdiction.

It's a bit of a pointless discussion as I'm not sure they'd even fall foul of any obscenity laws, but how it would work legally is that the state and/or federal government would bring charges against the company and any individuals involved in the production, which would prevent them from being able to produce any porn there. We're obviously not talking about them following LP back to Prague to arrest them!

It's a bit of a pointless discussion as I'm not sure they'd even fall foul of any obscenity laws, but how it would work legally is that the state and/or federal government would bring charges against the company and any individuals involved in the production, which would prevent them from being able to produce any porn there. We're obviously not talking about them following LP back to Prague to arrest them.

those MF will follow anyone if there is money involved, properties, or bank accounts.
Sometimes, one does not even have to be in their jurisdiction at all, it is all about, one day the mother F media doing a report on you or your company's activities. this MF works hand in hand.
and the most beautiful thing is, that they will allow the individual or company to grow, supostly, to be able to bring felony charges and take you out for good, when in reality, all they want is more money,
no one is safe, cause if you have nothing, they'll put a retainer on your ass and forget about you, but if one day ...like the big moron you are, cause now years went by and you assume that it is all good... you decide to visit them or one of its lovely country partners, which is almost the entire world, you'll find yourself going to jail for free. so don't even mention the word, USA unless it is
to bring tourists over here, and that too is a bit risky, as that F tourist can sue you before international courts and take your hard-earned money,

Highest court judge,... present your case ms..., what were you say your name was?
Framing tourist.... my name is pissdrinkalot sir.
Highest court judge..... and what was that these evil people at A/V did to you.
Framing tourist.....sir you won't believe it, but as I was getting fuck up the ass, one of the male actors piss on me and that was not written in our contract, and the piss from the male actor make me puke, which to this day and at this very moment, it has me traumatized, I can no longer sleep or have a normal life, they had destroyed me.
Highest court judge.....prosecutor, it is now your duty to freeze all A/V bank accounts and have Mis, pissdrinkalot be granted 15,000,000 dollars within 30 days, the judge hits the gavel with his wooden hammer, now you are fuck, tomorrow you wake up with
nada.
stay away from that F place. you might even get shot by just going there to visit, the land of the free, my ass, even babies have Uzi.
that place is crazy, everyone hates everyone. is all about homeboys, if you aren't one of them, you are the enemy, and they fix that with bullets.
I can continue forever so let me stop here. good night.

I forgot to mention,... the wrong time at the wrong place..., this MF will take you to jail for just for fun, .

sorry, I can not stop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIq4UTgqDAc

jjwhite1985 wrote:

petermc934 wrote:That may be true but how is a US court going to prosecute the company for obscenity breaches if they are based in Prague and thus completely out of their jurisdiction.

It's a bit of a pointless discussion as I'm not sure they'd even fall foul of any obscenity laws, but how it would work legally is that the state and/or federal government would bring charges against the company and any individuals involved in the production, which would prevent them from being able to produce any porn there. We're obviously not talking about them following LP back to Prague to arrest them!

The people involved though wouldn’t be doing anything illegal. Having sex and pissing/puking on each other is perfectly fine between consenting adults. The only possible illegal action would be the distribution of it and that would be the Prague based company. When Max Hardcore was prosecuted for obscenity breaches, they didn’t go after everyone involved in the production, they just went after him as the owner.

I’m sure they could probably ban the site from being viewed in the US if they wanted to and I assume that’s why LP started doing dry versions of their piss scenes and US people could only watch the dry versions (not sure if this is still the case). Like you say though, there’s loads of piss porn in the US now, it wouldn’t fall foul of any obscenity laws anyway.

Its just so much better and also cheaper to separate wheat and chaff and import the wheat to Prague. However, I do understand OP wish to get LP style step-by-step videos of US stars never reaching wheat status in Prague.

edit:
wheat = DAP- and fist-ability, ideally also in wet.

dap-addict wrote:edit:
wheat = DAP- and fist-ability, ideally also in wet.

Thats where we differ.

To me, wheat is the attractiveness of the model.

Like I said before, I could watch a video of Jane Darling climbing a stairs naked all day & not be bored.

netzerkaiser wrote:I could watch a video of Jane Darling climbing a stairs naked all day & not be bored.

Me, too!

But what we talk about is a studio shooting porn, at least I thought so.
That studio on top has to be profitable.

WET_GIRLS_69 wrote:
Try .com They make really good erotic hardcore girl-girl lesbian pissing porn

you are not supposed to be doing that shit here.
advertising third parties, get lost u no-good bastard.

it is not, piss, it is the way it is done and captured by A/V producers.
so stop your bullshit or ill report your ass.

that is too against the rules to be disrespectful towards other members...in a direct manner without no base, for doing so.
goodbye, hope you'll find yourself an I LOVE YOU, BABY girl.

we all welcome you to stay but please no advertisements from outside A/V.

dap-addict wrote:

netzerkaiser wrote:I could watch a video of Jane Darling climbing a stairs naked all day & not be bored.

Me, too!

But what we talk about is a studio shooting porn, at least I thought so.
That studio on top has to be profitable.

I instantly have to see this scene again You guys have a perfect taste!

netzerkaiser wrote:Why not open a USA studio?

Very intersesting question.

I really dont understand why Mexico studio closed. It was closer to the US and could have girls from Brasil, Cuba, Venezuela and US/Canada. I don´t know the economics in this branch, but the costs would also be lower than in the US.

US Porn is firmly in the grip of OF and MV. Even established studios from Mason or Jules Jordan hardly release fresh stuff anymore. If EU directors were to go to the US and offer girls $10,000 for a DAP scene with 5 guys, most girls would probably say.... "Are you stupid? I'll earn $10K just by shoving a dildo in my pussy for 2 minutes". The US market is dead as far as high-end studio quality is concerned.

Paizal wrote:OF and MV...... I'll earn $10K just by shoving a dildo in my pussy for 2 minutes".....

Who is OF and MV? What does it stand for?

Regarding the $10k for a dildo in a pussy.... this is the reason I would never pay money for that. At the end, all of them are at home, shoving a dildos in their pussy for the same/more money.

Even here on AV I´m not supporting amateur or soft content. I think supporting amateur content is the 2nd worst problem for professional hardcore porn business (1st piracy of course).

So, dont support laziness! We need to support "hard" working girls

Paizal wrote:US Porn is firmly in the grip of OF and MV. Even established studios from Mason or Jules Jordan hardly release fresh stuff anymore. If EU directors were to go to the US and offer girls $10,000 for a DAP scene with 5 guys, most girls would probably say.... "Are you stupid? I'll earn $10K just by shoving a dildo in my pussy for 2 minutes". The US market is dead as far as high-end studio quality is concerned.

Yeah you're right. Myself and other posters have noted for a long time that it is a double edged sword, particularly OF. One the one hand it is great for the performers to be in control, safer and not exploited, but it's also the worst thing to happen to the porn industry. Because as you say, if someone can make a 10 minute softcore vid and earn more than they would for a hardcore scene at LP, EA etc, not many are going to travel out to a studio to get used and abused by a bunch of guys they don't know.

LOL now I got what OF is..

But what is MV?

jjwhite1985 wrote:Because as you say, if someone can make a 10 minute softcore vid and earn more than they would for a hardcore scene at LP, EA etc, not many are going to travel out to a studio to get used and abused by a bunch of guys they don't know.

Am I the only one who struggles to understand how this sort of softcore content manages to be so apparently lucrative?

Ultra-Gape wrote:

jjwhite1985 wrote:Because as you say, if someone can make a 10 minute softcore vid and earn more than they would for a hardcore scene at LP, EA etc, not many are going to travel out to a studio to get used and abused by a bunch of guys they don't know.

Am I the only one who struggles to understand how this sort of softcore content manages to be so apparently lucrative?

you are not

Because it’s cheap to produce and only a few units sold (comparatively) is enough to make a profit.

YumYum74 wrote:Because it’s cheap to produce and only a few units sold (comparatively) is enough to make a profit.

I can see that may be a factor. Although for this to have a significant impact on demand for more conventional porn it would have to mean there is rather more than a small minority of people buying it which still leaves me somewhat wondering why the appeal is apparently so great.

I think it has something to do with the out of control prices of most of the normal studios. I believe more and more people are no longer willing to pay absurd amounts of money (compared to just one or two years ago) for a studio produced scene. They still need their porn fix, so they will go for the next best thing: amateur content which is mostly a lot cheaper although it is very different from studio porn in terms of content. Everyone feels the inflation, so if studios just keep increasing their prices it will eventually backfire and people will settle for less interesting but much cheaper content.